Doing A Body Count.... Update Nov. 29 Insallation begins

I have been going back and forth with one of the suppliers of these kits with regards to group pricing.
I'm trying to gain an interest in numbers to give him an idea of how many we as a group might want.
These kits would not only cover some other gens than the 6th, but other bikes as well.
Some kits are 'OEM' colors, and of course, some are in 'racing team' format.

(with gratuitous thanks to handkaudio) :warranty:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1276.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1277.jpg

The general pricing seems to be around $260US plus $225 shipping to most countries.
I don't mind running with this, but for now, all I need is people to post up their possible interest and any questions for now....

Mark me down as one of those people........ :491:

Greg :fing02:

I'm guessing the kit would not come with a tank, and that I'd have to paint to match, but would include the extended decals (if any, such as in kit above). Correct?

I am interested, but I think there are various companies who make them...and not all of them are as good?

Dibs on your stock plastics Greg?

The kits in question come with a tank cover, meaning you don't need to paint your tank. :fing02:

I would like to join the wish list for bodykits. I have seen them from $260 -$500 only some come with tank covers and the tail cover for rear seat is extra. we have gotten two kits one for a 2004 red kit with black flame job . did not come with tank cover that was a nother $200 and it was a plastic cover that even with heat to form it to mount it sorry. (you modifyed kit you can not return it!) for free they gave us a windscreen & nuts & bolts . drill to fit.
the other kit we got was not ABS but plastic. also to save cost this one is with out tank cover. red white & blue kit fit well needed lots of mounting modifacations. gaps on lights needed heat gun work .
I,m sorry my luck with both kits were not as represanted. the base price at around 300 is a working progect the SHIPPING will kill you when you get it. we got kits from over seas hong kong, 250 for shipping and its a box with penuts in it parts are not wraped and box was malled on first on took 3 months to get replacment and box still crushed paint damaged stickers torn.
BYER be ware . the shipping on kits will get you for the price of parts .

if some one wants to make a big deal on kits they need to be inspeced when thay come state side and repacked to keep them away from ups es ruff handling.

sorry rain on your dream , remove the shipping cost since to ship parts back to hongkong in same box cost me $40.00 with ins.

[image: View Post]bangbang1954, on Sep 3 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

I would like to join the wish list for bodykits. I have seen them from $260 -$500 only some come with tank covers and the tail cover for rear seat is extra. we have gotten two kits one for a 2004 red kit with black flame job . did not come with tank cover that was a nother $200 and it was a plastic cover that even with heat to form it to mount it sorry. (you modifyed kit you can not return it!) for free they gave us a windscreen & nuts & bolts . drill to fit.
the other kit we got was not ABS but plastic. also to save cost this one is with out tank cover. red white & blue kit fit well needed lots of mounting modifacations. gaps on lights needed heat gun work .
I,m sorry my luck with both kits were not as represanted. the base price at around 300 is a working progect the SHIPPING will kill you when you get it. we got kits from over seas hong kong, 250 for shipping and its a box with penuts in it parts are not wraped and box was malled on first on took 3 months to get replacment and box still crushed paint damaged stickers torn.
BYER be ware . the shipping on kits will get you for the price of parts .
if some one wants to make a big deal on kits they need to be inspeced when thay come state side and repacked to keep them away from ups es ruff handling.
Valid concerns. See below.

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I am interested, but I think there are various companies who make them...and not all of them are as good?
This is what I heard as well. So far, these seem to come from various distributors, but possibly the same manufacturer(s), as Sebastian mentioned in the other thread currently active.
Here's the fellow I've been talking to. They do have tank/tail covers and if you read his response to some of my concerns, I feel like he's a stand up guy who's being honest. As for returns, he does have a policy on his site; understandably I couldn't take liability for something out of my personal control ie. damage. I think it was mentioned somewhere that photo verification is what you need and they send you a replacement part.
We all have to remember that total cost is far less than OEM, so I think that expectations have to be considered with that in mind. At least he didn't shy away from the question.
HEY! Maybe we can get a custom 'VFRD' design made up!
Greg :fing02:
His email response:

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Hello Greg ,
Thank you so much for reply.
Yes,if you can place a big order,we will make a better price for you.
The quality of our item is good,because they are aftermarket fairing,they may not as good as the factory one.
But still very durable and beautiful,the important is the price is very favourable.Our item is ABS plastic,all screw holes done as the OEM frame,very easily to fit on.
You can try one first then make a bulk order,we believe our item must can be satisfied to you.
Thank you.
Best regards.
Hei ManHeymanspeedmotor

So does anyone have first hand experience with these to say how good they are or not? I'm very tempted but I worry about getting stuck with crappy product when my OEM fairings could probably be saved with a little elbow grease. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad to have two sets of plastics around though, huh?

- Patrick

[image: View Post]LostCosmonaut, on Sep 21 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

So does anyone have first hand experience with these to say how good they are or not? I'm very tempted but I worry about getting stuck with crappy product when my OEM fairings could probably be saved with a little elbow grease. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad to have two sets of plastics around though, huh?
- Patrick
I know I've been away from this because of the Titax deal, but I sent off more questions today.
I may end up being the 'guinea pig' for all of us and order one, then give a complete report on quality/fit/shipping issues etc.
Greg :fing02:

I'm officially taking a hit for the team. I just ordered a Repsol kit and they are going to be filling in the passenger handle holes. Sixth gens have tank covers; fifth don't.
I'll be doing a full write up on my thread from the box up.
Greg :fing02:
http://stores.shop.e...634Q2ec0Q2em322

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/Repsol.jpg

Hi Greg,

I'm just up the road, so PM me if you need a hand fitting the bodywork.

Glenn

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on Oct 10 2009, 08:03 PM, said:

I'll be doing a full write up on my thread from the box up.
Greg :fing02:

I like the white kit for the 5th gen. If the shipping was a little cheaper I'd probably jump on it. Interested to see how yours turns out!

Here's the next step.(Lots o pics...) :blink:
Time from order to doorstep: 14 days :)
Packaging: Very good in my opinion. Double corrugated box. All parts wrapped in OEM style foam wrap. Extra padding on top and bottom of box, as well as in between parts where necessary. Cardboard pieces to protect tabs that might be vulnerable. Strategically packed tight to almost eliminate inner movement in transit. ;)

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Next, Paint Quality:Better than I expected! :cool:

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Next: Issues :mellow:
Not many but, here's the list. Response and solution within 12 hours. :warranty:

1)Cowling tab broken off. Abs glue and spare tab on its way. Considering the distance, no biggy IMHO.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2710.jpg

2)Front side cowling tab completely missing for holding engine cowling in place. Not in box, so missing in the first place. Coming with above.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2736.jpg

3) Scratch on windshield, (which I think will buff out); replacement on it's way with no requirement to return original.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2715.jpg

Other comments:
Since certain pieces don't come with the kits, ie rubber mouldings, rear grab handle covers, hole for air temp guage, be aware going in. None of these really make a difference... I'm just sayin' is all.
I asked him to fill in the grab handle tabs for $20 extra, and I would not have this done. They fill in from the bottom... :unsure:

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it's what can happen when you both converse in 'Chinglish'. Shanghai is on the island and the dialect is Cantonese. The mainland speaks Mandarin and they can hardly understand each other! Until recently, the island was a British Colony, so at least they can haltingly speak and understand English.
Next: Fitting :comp13:
Overall Rating: :wheel: :wheel: :wheel: :+1: 1/2 out of 5...
I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:

Hey Greg.. interesting.. thanks for taking the plunge in the name of the VFR community's scientific benefit...

Shame about the breakages and the bodgy fill-in job... I've been looking at these kits for some time but haven't had the guts to risk it... I recently threw the bike down the road again and rashed up the unrashed side so I was seriously considering one of these designs:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4367/1146072492008.jpg

Which is the 2003 paintjob Rossi used at Cheste (Valencia, Spain)

Just one thing... I don't quite understand your rating... is that 3.5 out of 5?? How much $$ are we talking here?? I'm wondering if I could include a set for me in your group buy (it would have to be sent to Spain)... Surely they wouldn't mind... it's more money for them!!

(What most concerns me is how well the tank cover fits... and fitment in general)

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 17 November 2009 - 02:13 PM, said:

Overall Rating: :wheel: :wheel: :wheel: :+1: 1/2 out of 5...
I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:

Thanks for the review! Now, I'm not sure what your overall rating says?? You give it a 0.5 out of 5? Seems like it deserves a 1 out of 5, if only because the package arrived at your door!!

Regards,
Bruckner

[image: View Post]bangbang1954, on 03 September 2009 - 05:52 PM, said:

I would like to join the wish list for bodykits. I have seen them from $260 -$500 only some come with tank covers and the tail cover for rear seat is extra. we have gotten two kits one for a 2004 red kit with black flame job . did not come with tank cover that was a nother $200 and it was a plastic cover that even with heat to form it to mount it sorry. (you modifyed kit you can not return it!) for free they gave us a windscreen & nuts & bolts . drill to fit.
the other kit we got was not ABS but plastic. also to save cost this one is with out tank cover. red white & blue kit fit well needed lots of mounting modifacations. gaps on lights needed heat gun work .
I,m sorry my luck with both kits were not as represanted. the base price at around 300 is a working progect the SHIPPING will kill you when you get it. we got kits from over seas hong kong, 250 for shipping and its a box with penuts in it parts are not wraped and box was malled on first on took 3 months to get replacment and box still crushed paint damaged stickers torn.
BYER be ware . the shipping on kits will get you for the price of parts .

if some one wants to make a big deal on kits they need to be inspeced when thay come state side and repacked to keep them away from ups es ruff handling.

sorry rain on your dream , remove the shipping cost since to ship parts back to hongkong in same box cost me $40.00 with ins.

This is not a negitive towards you..... It's just that a lot of shipping companys get the raw end of the deal when it comes to damaged freight.... If it's packed correctly, it will go though the shipping system unharmed.... If you could see how freight is moved on a conveyer belt(IE;sorting ram).... Retired FedEx

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 17 November 2009 - 04:13 PM, said:

Shanghai is on the island and the dialect is Cantonese. The mainland speaks Mandarin and they can hardly understand each other! Until recently, the island was a British Colony, so at least they can haltingly speak and understand English.

I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:

Uhhhh, do you mean Hong Kong? Shanghai is on the coast, but not on an island and Hong Kong was British until 1999.

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 17 November 2009 - 03:13 PM, said:

Overall Rating: :wheel: :wheel: :wheel: :+1: 1/2 out of 5...
I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:

Is that 1/2 out of 5 or 3 1/2 out of 5? I'm guessing that each :wheel: is equal to one! :unsure: So your saying 3.5 of 5.

What is the :+1: equal too? :blink:

[image: View Post]Baileyrock, on 17 November 2009 - 06:54 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 17 November 2009 - 03:13 PM, said:

Overall Rating: :wheel: :wheel: :wheel: :+1: 1/2 out of 5...
I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:

Is that 1/2 out of 5 or 3 1/2 out of 5? I'm guessing that each :wheel: is equal to one! :unsure: So your saying 3.5 of 5.

What is the :+1: equal too? :blink:

I'd guess 3+1=4+1/2=4.5 out of five or 90%.

Scott

Greg, I would seriously tell them to replace your tail fairing. That's just not right. I know they will work with you!

I bought the Ducati 1098 tail for my 86 project from one of these Hong Kong companies(bliss-star, IIRC). Per my request, they sent me an unpainted tail and solo cover for $125. They wrapped it in foam only(no box!), so of course when it showed up it was cracked in a few places. They sent me another(in a box this time!)gratis. :fing02:

[image: View Post]VFRedleg, on 17 November 2009 - 04:53 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 17 November 2009 - 04:13 PM, said:

Shanghai is on the island and the dialect is Cantonese. The mainland speaks Mandarin and they can hardly understand each other! Until recently, the island was a British Colony, so at least they can haltingly speak and understand English.
I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:
Uhhhh, do you mean Hong Kong? Shanghai is on the coast, but not on an island and Hong Kong was British until 1999.
Yes, I mean Donkey Kong :blush:

[image: View Post]spotthedogg, on 17 November 2009 - 05:13 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Baileyrock, on 17 November 2009 - 06:54 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 17 November 2009 - 03:13 PM, said:

Overall Rating: :wheel: :wheel: :wheel: :+1: 1/2 out of 5...
I hope this helps,
Greg :fing02:

Is that 1/2 out of 5 or 3 1/2 out of 5? I'm guessing that each :wheel: is equal to one! :unsure: So your saying 3.5 of 5.

What is the :+1: equal too? :blink:

I'd guess 3+1=4+1/2=4.5 out of five or 90%.

Scott
WOW!!!! :ohmy:
What a Dimentia I've caused!!!! :huh: :(
It's 3.5 :wheel: out of 5 :wheel: ..... :blush:
I couldn't find no half bikes :unsure: ...... 'ceptin Kevin's, and I can't hang on him 'cuz he's hurtin' real bad like.... just taint right. :mellow: :sleep:
Just taint. :491:

Hmm that's interesting. If there are no dramatic fitting issues, this sounds like a viable alternative. There must be a way to cover the back of the side panels with heat reflexive material to prevent heat damage, a minor problem IMO. Getting the panels to fit is the key question now that we've established that paint quality is acceptable.

Do you know whether they make kits in OEM colors?

Awaiting your review on panel fitting! The effect on your overall rating could be extreme.. could turn into a 4/5 or 1/5.. you have an interested and very captive audience now! ;)

Regards,
Bruckner

I too will be following this thread with great interest. Best of luck with the install!

[image: View Post]Bruckner, on 18 November 2009 - 11:09 AM, said:

Hmm that's interesting. If there are no dramatic fitting issues, this sounds like a viable alternative.

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There must be a way to cover the back of the side panels with heat reflexive material to prevent heat damage, a minor problem IMO.
They provide some with the kit...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2702.jpg

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Do you know whether they make kits in OEM colors?
Regards,
Bruckner
Yes they do. Or pretty much anything for that matter...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/this.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/click.jpg

Greg :fing02:

Thanks for all the useful info Greg. As I understand there isn't enough material to cover the entire fenders, but this looks like stuff I can buy at the hardware store. I spoke to my trusted (!) mechanic at the Honda dealership about these kits, his only complaint pertained to heat damage when installed. More aluminum foil, more aluminum foil, more alu..

Regarding paint quality, using your tried-and-true rating system, how close to OEM quality are these products? Say Honda OEM is 5/5. I must say the rich glossy italian red color on my panels looks fabulous, not sure an aftermarket product could come close in terms of quality, but I may underestimate the secret powers of these pesky Chinese fabricators.

Regards,
Bruckner

[image: View Post]Bruckner, on 18 November 2009 - 06:32 PM, said:

Thanks for all the useful info Greg. As I understand there isn't enough material to cover the entire fenders, but this looks like stuff I can buy at the hardware store. I spoke to my trusted (!) mechanic at the Honda dealership about these kits, his only complaint pertained to heat damage when installed. More aluminum foil, more aluminum foil, more alu..

Regarding paint quality, using your tried-and-true rating system, how close to OEM quality are these products? Say Honda OEM is 5/5. I must say the rich glossy italian red color on my panels looks fabulous, not sure an aftermarket product could come close in terms of quality, but I may underestimate the secret powers of these pesky Chinese fabricators.

Regards,
Bruckner
I'd say a 4. But still, the last point is a big one since I truly believe that because Honda beats all of the other Japanese when it comes to laying down paint. :cool:
Greg :fing02:

[image: View Post]LostCosmonaut, on 21 September 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

So does anyone have first hand experience with these to say how good they are or not? I'm very tempted but I worry about getting stuck with crappy product when my OEM fairings could probably be saved with a little elbow grease. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad to have two sets of plastics around though, huh?

- Patrick

[image: View Post]Mac Morgan, on 24 November 2009 - 04:49 PM, said:

[image: View Post]LostCosmonaut, on 21 September 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

So does anyone have first hand experience with these to say how good they are or not? I'm very tempted but I worry about getting stuck with crappy product when my OEM fairings could probably be saved with a little elbow grease. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad to have two sets of plastics around though, huh?

- Patrick

[image: View Post]Mac Morgan, on 24 November 2009 - 04:51 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Mac Morgan, on 24 November 2009 - 04:49 PM, said:

[image: View Post]LostCosmonaut, on 21 September 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

So does anyone have first hand experience with these to say how good they are or not? I'm very tempted but I worry about getting stuck with crappy product when my OEM fairings could probably be saved with a little elbow grease. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad to have two sets of plastics around though, huh?

- Patrick
Coming along, my little droogie.............. :491:
I'm keeping my original panels, BTW. I'm asessing as much as I can, along with the fact that at $500, you're talking less than 1/4 of the cost of OEM parts. Then each person can take it from there. :)
Greg :fing02:

With 2 VFR800, gen 5 in my garage and more than a few busted up pieces of plastic. I saw NICECYCLE's ad on line and decided what the heck, I've got a new SEARS Gold Card with a zero balance and a 24.9% annual rate and started the process.

I called NICECYCLE and "yes, all the mounting tabs are there (not really) and everything fits and we can custom paint them." Hmmmm, maybe a Casey Stoner replica - but not on a Honda VFR800. Anyway, I sent them a picture of what I wanted done and 2 weeks later it all came in a big box directly from Shanghai!!! First out of the box was the tail section because I wanted to look at the tabs. Paint was quite good but not OEM quality - maybe 95%. I pulled my tail section off and started the conversion.

1st glitch: all the tabs are basically epoxied onto the pieces and gee, they don't match the tail light's mounts. I ended up breaking the 2 tabs off the rear of the tail section and then started on the 2 metal brackets that are screwed onto the light. The oem screws are 5mm but NICECYCLE's tabs had a 4mm threaded insert. No big deal, just a trip to the local hardware store. Anyway, it's the light that is securely pinned to the rear sub-frame.

2nd glitch: All of the oem's mounting holes have a nice thick reinforcement moulded into the back of the plastic making the hole about 1/4" thick - NICECYCLE's plastic is about 1/8" thick. The oem tail section and fairing screws have a shoulder that fit perfectly and securely. They don't work very well with the NICECYCLE part without the "professional" (building up the back side of the mounting hole) installation they recommend. Also, none of the holes really line up. Get a tapered ream or Dremel tool.

After 4 hours of farting around, I gave up on fitting the rest of the parts. BTW, the kit comes with just about every piece of plastic, "faithfully replicated", to completely re-invent your VFR into anything one can dream up. You come up with a design and they'll match it. That much is true.

Well on Sunday I decided to strip the oem fairing and fit up the new stuff. Gives you a great chance to clean up what you can't see as well as destroy $25.00 worth of plastic Honda thingies - more of that later.

Actually, the side fairing went on fine until I went to attach the oem exhaust shield - a V shape plastic piece with 4 pan head screws that attach it to wellnuts in the fairing sides - and guess what! Nothin matched up but oh well, being the "professional installer" I am, I gave up for the day and helped my son mount up a new tire on his Husqvarna 610 supermotard.

I figure I've got the rest of the winter to "professionally" mount the rest of the stuff and maybe their stuff fits their stuff better then it fits the oem stuff.

All in all the $799. I spent was still a lot cheaper than the oem pieces.One side fairing goes foe about $400.00 these days. I'm a little disappointed but that's what happens when we stray from OEM. If anyone's interested in contacting me, feel free to do so.

Happy Holidays
Mac Morgan
abarth1202@verizon.net
Hockessin, DE

[image: View Post]Mac Morgan, on 24 November 2009 - 04:51 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Mac Morgan, on 24 November 2009 - 04:49 PM, said:

[image: View Post]LostCosmonaut, on 21 September 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

So does anyone have first hand experience with these to say how good they are or not? I'm very tempted but I worry about getting stuck with crappy product when my OEM fairings could probably be saved with a little elbow grease. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad to have two sets of plastics around though, huh?

- Patrick

Nicecycle has the 6th gen RWB fairing set on sale for 599.Just thought I'd pass along the infohttp://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

Hering the stories, and especially MAC's installation drama, methinks I'm going for some solid EBAY pieces and a repaint. :comp13:

[image: View Post]veefer800canuck, on 24 November 2009 - 08:03 PM, said:

Hering the stories, and especially MAC's installation drama, methinks I'm going for some solid EBAY pieces and a repaint. :comp13:

The thing that bugs me is that yes, he made it sound hard to fit, but he also couldn't figure out how to remove the little Honda clips without destroying them. Just saying. $25 @ dealer prices = 5 destroyed clips... maybe if you're the type of guy who figures that out on #1, you'll have an easier time with the fairings... :comp13:


:ph34r: :ph34r:

Just a little update:
The biggest thing I noticed so far is that while Honda's tabs and brackets are form fitted in the moulding process, the aftermarkets are not. This can account for a few things: imprecise fit, possibility of breaking, extra time etc. My pictures will show that I had to repair one tab on the rear seat cowl and had to 'fudge' a bit to fit the taillight better. The rear cowl is on now and the seat/cowl fits fine. The front fender comes next and I forsee no problem.
I also 'test fit' the tank cover and I suggest the following: Grind down all rough welds the may extend too far that they may contact tank paint. I also applied ABS solvent/cement glue to reinforce all joints and smooth out contacts. If you feel that some parts of the tank may be rubbed by the cover, I'm going with metal tape applied to the inside of the tank cover as protection. Anything else ie. HRC tank protector will make the fit too tight, and must be removed.
I think that clear film stuff that I got from you Seb would prolly work good too. The fit seems to be pretty good and like Mac said, a dremel is your friend, along with remembering what the cost was and using that as part of your criteria. Take your time!!!
BTW, I purchased a full set of stainless steel body bolts etc from Bikebolts.com since I may switch back and forth. Their kits include all well nuts clips bolts etc. and come in a selection of colors. That decreases the chances of breaking things when doing 'changeovers'....... :comp13:
Now, all I have to figure out is what to do with this???

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/LASER_XTREME_07_b.jpg

I cut off my original collector/muffler pipe for material. Hmmmmmmmmmmm....... High or low, Sebbo?
Need to find a 'Tigger' too. Hey, isn't yours the same as mine for the prototype? :comp13: :491:
Greg :fing02:

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 25 November 2009 - 12:38 AM, said:

Now, all I have to figure out is what to do with this???

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/LASER_XTREME_07_b.jpg

I cut off my original collector/muffler pipe for material. Hmmmmmmmmmmm....... High or low, Sebbo?
Need to find a 'Tigger' too. Hey, isn't yours the same as mine for the prototype? :comp13: :491:
Greg :fing02:

Hey Greg, yeah, I'd be very tempted to get a sheet of the 3M clear vinyl and cover the whole surface of the tank with it. It's pretty thin so shouldn't interfere, and would protect better than metal tape.

You don't carry passengers, do ya Greg? How 'bout a mid rise, Duc Monster style, with the pipes roughly where the rear pegs "ought to be"? If you can't find a local welder, I can probably do it up for ya!

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Just a little update:
The biggest thing I noticed so far is that while Honda's tabs and brackets are form fitted in the moulding process, the aftermarkets are not. This can account for a few things: imprecise fit, possibility of breaking, extra time etc. My pictures will show that I had to repair one tab on the rear seat cowl and had to 'fudge' a bit to fit the taillight better. The rear cowl is on now and the seat/cowl fits fine. The front fender comes next and I forsee no problem.
I also 'test fit' the tank cover and I suggest the following: Grind down all rough welds the may extend too far that they may contact tank paint. I also applied ABS solvent/cement glue to reinforce all joints and smooth out contacts. If you feel that some parts of the tank may be rubbed by the cover, I'm going with metal tape applied to the inside of the tank cover as protection. Anything else ie. HRC tank protector will make the fit too tight, and must be removed.
I think that clear film stuff that I got from you Seb would prolly work good too. The fit seems to be pretty good and like Mac said, a dremel is your friend, along with remembering what the cost was and using that as part of your criteria. Take your time!!!

More packaging pics....

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Some of the repair areas. Note the side taillight screwposts did not have brass inserts, so I used self tapping panheads to secure. Some grinding of the side of the rear light assy. and the cowl posts were required. Some pics also show the roughness of the welds. Anyone know if heat/solder iron would smooth them out better than grinding them down?

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[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 25 November 2009 - 03:17 PM, said:

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Just a little update:
The biggest thing I noticed so far is that while Honda's tabs and brackets are form fitted in the moulding process, the aftermarkets are not. This can account for a few things: imprecise fit, possibility of breaking, extra time etc. My pictures will show that I had to repair one tab on the rear seat cowl and had to 'fudge' a bit to fit the taillight better. The rear cowl is on now and the seat/cowl fits fine. The front fender comes next and I forsee no problem.
I also 'test fit' the tank cover and I suggest the following: Grind down all rough welds the may extend too far that they may contact tank paint. I also applied ABS solvent/cement glue to reinforce all joints and smooth out contacts. If you feel that some parts of the tank may be rubbed by the cover, I'm going with metal tape applied to the inside of the tank cover as protection. Anything else ie. HRC tank protector will make the fit too tight, and must be removed.
I think that clear film stuff that I got from you Seb would prolly work good too. The fit seems to be pretty good and like Mac said, a dremel is your friend, along with remembering what the cost was and using that as part of your criteria. Take your time!!!
Some of the repair areas. Note the side taillight screwposts did not have brass inserts, so I used self tapping panheads to secure. Some grinding of the sidemounts of the rear light assy. and the cowl posts were required. Some pics also show the roughness of the welds. Anyone know if heat/solder iron would smooth them out better than grinding them down?
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2820.jpghttp://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2821.jpghttp://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/BODY%20PARTS/DSCF2823.jpg
The installation begins:
A little extra push forward and all mounting holes lined up for the rear cowl/taillight assy. If you plan to install the seat cover, use the rubber mouldings, pads etc. from your original. It will prevent scratches. (Weeeee!!! The Repsol Red is a 'dead nuts' match to my wheels, so no need to repaint! :squid: :wheel: )

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NOTE!!! Do not try to install tight fitting items in the cold! While trying the tank cover on, it cracked.(in the area circled.) ABS glue on the inside and it can't be seen. If you use a heat gun, don't select high and apply the heat to the inside to protect aagainst paint damage.

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The holes at the rear of the tank don't seem to line up at this point, but I can't really tell until I fit it right on.

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Later,
Greg :fing02:

Good luck Greg! :fing02:

Love the 4 pipes! :beer:

The tank cover could be a cheap way to "fix" a dented tank. :cool:

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Love the 4 pipes! :beer:
I do too! But there are plans on the table to make the bike look/sound even more GP.... :warranty: :musik20: :comp13: :squid: :wheel:

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The tank cover could be a cheap way to "fix" a dented tank. :cool:
Now where on earth did you get that idea? :blush: :ohmy: :(
Greg :fing02:

Isn't the 5th & 6th gens the same shape/size? Thinking of ordering a set and if the tanks are the same I'm gonna see if they'll throw in a tank cover for a 5th gen package.

Shipping is just insane... would consider this as an option otherwise. Wonder if they do group buys for cheaper shipping... Magic 8-ball says, "Probably, no"

[image: View Post]5thGenJim, on 02 February 2010 - 09:12 AM, said:

Shipping is just insane... would consider this as an option otherwise.

1) Even with shipping, OEM would still be way more IMHO.

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Wonder if they do group buys for cheaper shipping... Magic 8-ball says, "Probably, no"

2) We haven't got to that point yet.... and the 'soil sows' say six more weeks of winter today. :dry: :mad:

Greg :fing02:

[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 02 February 2010 - 10:33 AM, said:

[image: View Post]5thGenJim, on 02 February 2010 - 09:12 AM, said:

Shipping is just insane... would consider this as an option otherwise.

1) Even with shipping, OEM would still be way more IMHO.

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Wonder if they do group buys for cheaper shipping... Magic 8-ball says, "Probably, no"

2) We haven't got to that point yet.... and the 'soil sows' say six more weeks of winter today. :dry: :mad:

Greg :fing02:

Yes, best price I could find online for a set of OEM plastics is about 1500USD (not including gas tank and shipping).

I'm willing to give the Chinese/Taiwanese/HongKongese plastics a try in a group buy. Greg, any chance of finishing up the install on your bike so we can get your full review?

260$ shipping seems high, but again, 240$ for plastics is cheap. They may advertise a lower price on the product and make it up on the shipping price, it's a marketing tactic used all over eBay these days.

Regards,
Bruckner

I may be down to go in for my 5th Gen if they can do Matte Orange...