The review I've been wainting for, as the Star seems to have writers with an open mind, and this guys is a big fan of the VFR800
Toronto Star Review
But he says only 200 are coming to Canada for 2010
WHAT'S WORST: Oddball switchgear, limited cruising range
First time I've seen anyone talk about the switch layout, check the picture, the horn and signal light switch have been flipped from every other bike I've ever seen. And that limited range thanks to a 18L fuel tank :angry:
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[image: View Post]dweese, on Oct 25 2009, 01:17 PM, said:
The review I've been wainting for, as the Star seems to have writers with an open mind, and this guys is a big fan of the VFR800
Toronto Star Review
But he says only 200 are coming to Canada for 2010
WHAT'S WORST: Oddball switchgear, limited cruising range
First time I've seen anyone talk about the switch layout, check the picture, the horn and signal light switch have been flipped from every other bike I've ever seen. And that limited range thanks to a 18L fuel tank :angry:
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BMW's are like that, aren't they??
I'm still seeing what looks like damping adjustment on the fork, what's up with that, is it there or not?
Thanks for the post-up, this is one of the better reviews done so far! Honest, fair, and detailed.
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 10:26 AM, said:
[image: View Post]dweese, on Oct 25 2009, 01:17 PM, said:
The review I've been wainting for, as the Star seems to have writers with an open mind, and this guys is a big fan of the VFR800
Toronto Star Review
But he says only 200 are coming to Canada for 2010
WHAT'S WORST: Oddball switchgear, limited cruising range
First time I've seen anyone talk about the switch layout, check the picture, the horn and signal light switch have been flipped from every other bike I've ever seen. And that limited range thanks to a 18L fuel tank :angry:
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BMW's are like that, aren't they??
I'm still seeing what looks like damping adjustment on the fork, what's up with that, is it there or not?
Thanks for the post-up, this is one of the better reviews done so far! Honest, fair, and detailed.
Cycle World and the other reviews said the suspension has preload and rebound adjustment front and rear.
The fact that they're only bringing 200 makes me want one even more for the exclusivity factor... but it worries me that they will also price it exclusively.
Be careful Honda Canada... if it's more than a $1500 difference from the States I'll be heading down to Montana to pick one up.
I wonder if the pre-production models have an EU switchgear? Perhaps when the North American production models arrive, they'll be different. I mean, I notice this picture appears to have a flash-to-pass switch, or "light horn" as the English speaking German riders say. That's not something I have ever seen on US model bikes. We usually get a switchgear without this; often, with a clumsy bump where it was filled in with as little trouble taken as possible. (Why do they manufacture these different switchgears for us? It seems like a strange waste of money, in an industry that usually prefers to standardize for cost savings. Do US DOT regs prohibit the flash-to-pass?)
[image: View Post]elizilla, on Oct 25 2009, 11:35 AM, said:
I wonder if the pre-production models have an EU switchgear? Perhaps when the North American production models arrive, they'll be different. I mean, I notice this picture appears to have a flash-to-pass switch, or "light horn" as the English speaking German riders say. That's not something I have ever seen on US model bikes. We usually get a switchgear without this; often, with a clumsy bump where it was filled in with as little trouble taken as possible. (Why do they manufacture these different switchgears for us? It seems like a strange waste of money, in an industry that usually prefers to standardize for cost savings. Do US DOT regs prohibit the flash-to-pass?)
US - Triumph Sprint ST's have the "electronic finger" as the salesguy described it to me. :blink:
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(Why do they manufacture these different switchgears for us? It seems like a strange waste of money, in an industry that usually prefers to standardize for cost savings. Do US DOT regs prohibit the flash-to-pass?)
Cuz you guys are allows to carry
Gunz..... :usac: :ohmy: :unsure:
It's right there in the
'amendments' to your Constipation or whatnot right next to where it says you can
bare both your arms or summat (so long as you aren't in a foreign Country that don't do that. :( ) :warranty: :unclesam:
Greg :fing02:
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 10:26 AM, said:
I'm still seeing what looks like damping adjustment on the fork, what's up with that, is it there or not?
These are the best detail pics I've run across, Beans over at PNW seems to have a Honda connection.
http://pnwriders.com/pictures/117907-2010-...res-galore.html
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[image: View Post]elizilla, on Oct 25 2009, 02:35 PM, said:
Do US DOT regs prohibit the flash-to-pass?)
No, many US-spec BMW's have this. Though no one recommends using it in the U.S.
[image: View Post]elizilla, on Oct 25 2009, 12:35 PM, said:
I wonder if the pre-production models have an EU switchgear? Perhaps when the North American production models arrive, they'll be different. I mean, I notice this picture appears to have a flash-to-pass switch, or "light horn" as the English speaking German riders say. That's not something I have ever seen on US model bikes.
My '05 750 Gixxer has flash to pass.
Dirk
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 01:22 PM, said:
[image: View Post]elizilla, on Oct 25 2009, 02:35 PM, said:
Do US DOT regs prohibit the flash-to-pass?)
No, many US-spec BMW's have this. Though no one recommends using it in the U.S.
Doesn't work in the US anyway. You think something as simple as a flashing light is going to get left lane bandits to move over? :laugh:
200 bikes for Canada? Wow, get your deposits in now if you're even entertaining the idea of getting one.
I have a flash-to-pass switch on my 6th gen here in Oz
All Ozzie-sold bikes appear to have a headlamp flasher switch AFAIK. I believe it may be a requirement of the ADR's (Australian Design Rules). I mean my 1994 Testarossa has one. Can't imagine a bike (or a car) without one, to be honest.
Good review, btw, encouraging. I hope that Honda stick with the "standard" switchgear when the bike is released here.
[image: View Post]bayarearider, on Oct 25 2009, 02:44 PM, said:
US - Triumph Sprint ST's have the "electronic finger" as the salesguy described it to me. :blink:
You beat me to it. A co-worker of mine has the previous gen ST and he has it. I just flip the high beam switch on then off real quick. It worked coming home the other night on the highway after dark.
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[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 10:26 AM, said:
I'm still seeing what looks like damping adjustment on the fork, what's up with that, is it there or not?
These are the best detail pics I've run across, Beans over at PNW seems to have a Honda connection.
Hogghhhhh!! :wub:
How come I have to wait until March?!
The "on the road" shots are interesting, though I must say that some of them look a little "Photoshop-y" to me...
[image: View Post]UFO, on Oct 25 2009, 06:48 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 01:22 PM, said:
No, many US-spec BMW's have this. Though no one recommends using it in the U.S.
Doesn't work in the US anyway. You think something as simple as a flashing light is going to get left lane bandits to move over? :laugh:
Not only is it likely to not work, it may cause someone to get angry and drive recklessly, which is why I don' recommend it. We all know who wins in car vs. bike.
I'd like to think we could be more civil, but I'm a little amazed at some of the things drivers get angry at. Last week someone was seriously tailgating me (on a three lane road), so I flashed my brakes to get him to back off, so he sped around and flipped ME off...
Some people see flashing brights as a sign of aggression and have something to prove...
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 07:53 PM, said:
[image: View Post]UFO, on Oct 25 2009, 06:48 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 01:22 PM, said:
No, many US-spec BMW's have this. Though no one recommends using it in the U.S.
Doesn't work in the US anyway. You think something as simple as a flashing light is going to get left lane bandits to move over? :laugh:
I'd like to think we could be more civil, but I'm a little amazed at some of the things drivers get angry at. Last week someone was seriously tailgating me (on a three lane road), so I flashed my brakes to get him to back off, so he sped around and flipped ME off...
Wait, so the way I'm reading this you were in the left lane holding up traffic? :laugh:
[image: View Post]dweese, on Oct 25 2009, 01:17 PM, said:
The review I've been wainting for, as the Star seems to have writers with an open mind, and this guys is a big fan of the VFR800
Toronto Star Review
But he says only 200 are coming to Canada for 2010
WHAT'S WORST: Oddball switchgear, limited cruising range
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First time I've seen anyone talk about the switch layout, check the picture, the horn and signal light switch have been flipped from every other bike I've ever seen. And that limited range thanks to a 18L fuel tank angry.gif
[image: View Post]mznyc, on Oct 11 2009, 09:09 AM, said:
We're all gonna get our neighbors attention when we hit the horn instead of the turn signal.I do it every once and a while on the Guzzi as it's in the same spot and I'll go from one bike to the other from day to day.
The bag will be useless as it will be filled with the tool needed to take off the hub :biggrin:
Ah-hem :biggrin: I just figured it wasn't a problem for anybody else as no one commented till now.The horn position makes a lot more sense in the middle of the housing and being bigger than anything else there.The only problem I have is going back and forth between bikes that have it one way or the other.
Very logical answer to a question that was asked time and time again on this board: how is Honda going to sell a 20,000$CND motorbike in today's troubled market? Simple, make fewer of them.
Hoping that this new bike won't be quite a bit more pricey than the outgoing model is Alice in Wonderland fantasy!
Regards,
Bruckner
[image: View Post]vfrr, on Oct 25 2009, 03:55 PM, said:
I have a flash-to-pass switch on my 6th gen here in Oz
My 1996 F 250 (Ford P/U) Canada, US made has the FTP so why not bikes.
To go off topic (ish ) a bit here - what a pain in the butt this thread is! Too many people quoting the original post and not removing the included pic! This is bad netiquette, Dudes! My interdweeb connection is slowish at the moment (due to the troglodyte spawn in the basement?) and it's taking forever to load! Grrrr!!! and all that...
Another "Canadian" review (well at least the review was in Canada and mentions the 200 only going there)...
http://www.wheels.ca/article/782568
[image: View Post]enzed_viffer, on Oct 26 2009, 02:07 AM, said:
To go off topic (ish ) a bit here - what a pain in the butt this thread is! Too many people quoting the original post and not removing the included pic! This is bad netiquette, Dudes! My interdweeb connection is slowish at the moment (due to the troglodyte spawn in the basement?) and it's taking forever to load! Grrrr!!! and all that...
Yes, I agree; very poor form. Simple matter to delete the link to the pictures when you reply.
[image: View Post]Echo3Niner, on Oct 26 2009, 02:21 AM, said:
Another "Canadian" review (well at least the review was in Canada and mentions the 200 only going there)...
http://www.wheels.ca/article/782568
That's actually the same review as linked above...
[image: View Post]UFO, on Oct 25 2009, 11:05 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 25 2009, 07:53 PM, said:
[quote name='UFO' post='658625' date='Oct 25 2009, 06:48
I'd like to think we could be more civil, but I'm a little amazed at some of the things drivers get angry at. Last week someone was seriously tailgating me (on a three lane road), so I flashed my brakes to get him to back off, so he sped around and flipped ME off...
Wait, so the way I'm reading this you were in the left lane holding up traffic? :laugh:
No, middle lane. Which is how he sped around me. Why he didn't just do that in the first place is beyond me...
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Oct 26 2009, 04:08 AM, said:
That's actually the same review as linked above...
Oh, name on the original link thru me.
[image: View Post]enzed_viffer, on Oct 25 2009, 11:07 PM, said:
To go off topic (ish ) a bit here - what a pain in the butt this thread is! Too many people quoting the original post and not removing the included pic! This is bad netiquette, Dudes! My interdweeb connection is slowish at the moment (due to the troglodyte spawn in the basement?) and it's taking forever to load! Grrrr!!! and all that...
Your browser should be caching the picture the first time it pulls it up in the thread and then simply redisplaying it from your hard drive cache for any subsequent instances. The original pic is only about 200K, even out at the end of the line in NZ it should load fairly quick. But it's pulling that pic from the feelv4 site, which I believe is in the EU somewhere. Then you have the other 2 pics probably on a US server.
But the slowdown may be pulling up all the signature attachments, like the "fuelly" web site stats. Those need to be pulled in for each individual, plus any pics people have in their sig's that reside on other servers, such as the VFR pics in RC36's and VF1000R's sigs (just for example), the "states visited" maps, etc. Any one of those items could be holding up the loading of the whole web page. Fuelly seems to be the big culprit most of the time.