OK, I've posted on here a while back about extended swingarms. Some of you were for it, some were against it. Now, I've been reading on here where some people have had a VFR swingarm on a CBR. So I'm wondering if a CBR swingarm could fit on a 6 gen VFR800? Has anyone tried this? Would the sprockets and chain line up? I'm asking these questions because if I could put a CBR swingarm on my VFR, I could put the extensions on them to move the tire back more, or purchase an after market swingarm for a CBR and install it on my VFR, if I knew it would fit. IF so, what year CBR? On one of the other threads, the VFR SSSA was on a CBR900, but they didn't mention what year it was. I know everyone's got an opinion on this, but I'm sure there are some of you that would know the answers to my questions right off the top of your heads....
CBR swingarm on a 6th gen. VFR
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other then making a motorcycle handle like a cement truck why do you want to extend the swing arm?
It will take modification of the brakes, lines, etc. You would new the whole ass end of a cbr.
Why in the hell would you want an extended arm on a vfr? Extended arms are for drag racing abd the vfr isnt very good at that. People put a SSSA on other bikes for looks.
Why in the hell would you want an extended arm on a vfr? Extended arms are for drag racing abd the vfr isnt very good at that. People put a SSSA on other bikes for looks.
i have the whole rear set up.. measure the swingarm mounting for me and i will do the same on the cbr.you need to know the inside space width..and the outside width..i also have some cool wheels to fit the cbr in my photo album :warranty:
The CBR900RR was manufactured from 1993-1999. 2000 is when the CBR929RR made its debut.
I've seen a VFR SSSA on a number of other bikes but I don't think I've ever seen a traditional swingarm on a VFR. The SSSA and V-4 engine configuration, more than anything else, are what make VFR a VFR.
If you can pull it off, definitely post some pics. I think I can speak for everyone in saying we'd like to see what you come up with. Don't forget that if you're going to want matching wheels, you're going to have to swap forks because a CBR900RR front wheel won't fit on a VTEC's forks.
Best of luck to you.
I've seen a VFR SSSA on a number of other bikes but I don't think I've ever seen a traditional swingarm on a VFR. The SSSA and V-4 engine configuration, more than anything else, are what make VFR a VFR.
If you can pull it off, definitely post some pics. I think I can speak for everyone in saying we'd like to see what you come up with. Don't forget that if you're going to want matching wheels, you're going to have to swap forks because a CBR900RR front wheel won't fit on a VTEC's forks.
Best of luck to you.
The VFR swingarm on a CBR900 uses the VFR750 swingarm.
The 800's swingarms are considerably different due to the "pivotless" chassis design, where the pivot point is in the engine, not the frame.
Your best starting point would be another Honda that has a pivotless chassis, and then the next problems will be swingarm width and shock linkage design and shock location.
Good luck, you'll need it!
The 800's swingarms are considerably different due to the "pivotless" chassis design, where the pivot point is in the engine, not the frame.
Your best starting point would be another Honda that has a pivotless chassis, and then the next problems will be swingarm width and shock linkage design and shock location.
Good luck, you'll need it!
[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 07 March 2010 - 02:45 PM, said:
Your best starting point would be another Honda that has a pivotless chassis, and then the next problems will be swingarm width and shock linkage design and shock location.
SuperHawk. You'll have big issues with exhaust routing and shock mount location (offset).
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The only complaint I have for the VFR800's SSSA is that it's not that light. I don't know the weight of the thing off the top of my head but I believe a properly constructed conventional arm could weight less by a noticeable amount. A nice reduction in unsprung weight would be a great thing for comfort and performance.
And in every other regard, it's a step backwards, and in lengthening it for appearance you're most likely going to lose that weight reduction. I wonder if the SSSA is something that keeps the squids away from the VFR? If so, viva la single sided.
My two cents of course, do what you want with your bike, and these things aren't rare so if it comes out poorly it's not like unique metal was ruined in the process.
And in every other regard, it's a step backwards, and in lengthening it for appearance you're most likely going to lose that weight reduction. I wonder if the SSSA is something that keeps the squids away from the VFR? If so, viva la single sided.
My two cents of course, do what you want with your bike, and these things aren't rare so if it comes out poorly it's not like unique metal was ruined in the process.
[image: View Post]EmeraldVFR, on 07 March 2010 - 10:06 AM, said:
The CBR900RR was manufactured from 1993-1999. 2000 is when the CBR929RR made its debut.I've seen a VFR SSSA on a number of other bikes but I don't think I've ever seen a traditional swingarm on a VFR. The SSSA and V-4 engine configuration, more than anything else, are what make VFR a VFR.
If you can pull it off, definitely post some pics. I think I can speak for everyone in saying we'd like to see what you come up with. Don't forget that if you're going to want matching wheels, you're going to have to swap forks because a CBR900RR front wheel won't fit on a VTEC's forks.
Best of luck to you.
no offence but i beg to differ.. but your mixing apples and oranges.. what the swingarm mates to is not the issue.. just the size and shape of the swingarm,if it close enough match or not.. the 1st confederate ghost had an upside down ducati 916 swingarm mounted to a masive backbone frame.. completly different the ducs. as for the wheel fitting the vtect forks.. the vtec wheel matchs the cbr 6 spoke pattern.. and.. and even then.. why wont it fit?? anything can be made to fit.. i have put ninja,cbr,gsxr,etc etc on every brand they dont belong to.. its simply a matter of spacing and time and money. :comp13:
[image: View Post]gll429, on 07 March 2010 - 05:16 PM, said:
.. its simply a matter of spacing and time and money.
As is most everything in life.
If you feel that you must do this just contact Metmachex or JMC swingarms. They will build you anything you want.
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The biggest disadvantage the SSA has over a conventional swingarm is additional weight. Honda eventually abandoned it on the RC45 in World Superbike because to handle the additional hp the bike produced would have required the arm to be even heavier than it already was. Ducati also followed suit with the 749/999 series, but later returned to the single sided design which was considered a desirable design element of the bike, much like it has been on the VFR since 1990.
Anyway, a regular dual arm design would be lighter, plus allow you a far greater choice of wheels, as no manufacturer currently makes a replacement wheel for the VFR.
Your primary hurdle will be exhaust routing, as the VFR's header is specifically designed to route around the single sided arm.
Anyway, a regular dual arm design would be lighter, plus allow you a far greater choice of wheels, as no manufacturer currently makes a replacement wheel for the VFR.
Your primary hurdle will be exhaust routing, as the VFR's header is specifically designed to route around the single sided arm.
Yes, it would require alot of time and money. Both of what I don't have..lol. I knew there would be no easy way to do it, and just thought I'd throw this question out there.
[image: View Post]nruas800, on 08 March 2010 - 12:02 AM, said:
Yes, it would require alot of time and money. Both of what I don't have..lol. I knew there would be no easy way to do it, and just thought I'd throw this question out there.No offense, nruas800, but if you want a blingy bike w/extended swingarm, I'd get a Gixxer or Ninja to heavily mod instead of a VFR. Not that it can't be done, but custom aftermarket parts availability is much better for supersports (especially for the Hayabusa) including swingarms and even SSSA's for those bikes.
[image: View Post]soichiro, on 07 March 2010 - 06:30 AM, said:
Extended arms are for drag racing abd the vfr isnt very good at that. People put a SSSA on other bikes for looks.It would be good at it with Torocharger! :goofy:
[image: View Post]nruas800, on 08 March 2010 - 12:02 AM, said:
I knew there would be no easy way to do it...What's so hard about finding an ex-WorldSuperbike HRC RC45 dual swingarm and having it cut up and extended ? People do that all the time.
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