Thats a great sequence....... just glad it wasn't me :blush:
Dutchy, I think you've shortchanged the effort, they atleast give out thanks for coming medals dont they :huh:
excellent camera work...the detail in the photos once hard parts have contacted the pavement is the best I have ever seen...the throttle grip and assorted debris is awesome to study, try to identify as many parts as you can.
From the order of the pic's, pic #5 shows why it high sided, if you had kept steering to your left it would have low-sided, but you tried to save it which brought it back up. That's what I see.... Also I'm not claiming I could/would have been able to do any different.... But it was a good set of pic's for us to study about what's happening...... Glad you are OK, and sorry about the bike.... Now if we could get the D.O.T. to get the trees and post, etc. away from the roadways....... Thx for the education pic's.......
Attn: By all means if someone has a diff' opinion of what happen or, what we might do to save 'em.... Let it loose
How does one save a situation like this?
You go into a turn, get on the gas and the rear lets go.
The first instinct is to 1 - countersteer to get back on course (try any way) and 2 - chop the throttle.
these are the two actions that result in a high-side as the rear regains traction.
Theoretically (no personal experience here) if he woulda kept on the throttle, he would have made it flat track style all the way around. For that you need some mad skillz and power to keep smoking that tire all the way around. See, I toldya theoretically :blink:
[image: View Post]Rice, on 05 November 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:
How does one save a situation like this?
You go into a turn, get on the gas and the rear lets go.
The first instinct is to 1 - countersteer to get back on course (try any way) and 2 - chop the throttle.
these are the two actions that result in a high-side as the rear regains traction.
Theoretically (no personal experience here) if he woulda kept on the throttle, he would have made it flat track style all the way around. For that you need some mad skillz and power to keep smoking that tire all the way around. See, I toldya theoretically :blink:
But seriously, How does one save this?
I don't claim to be an xpert but everytime I felt the rear get loose, I immediately gave it a very little bit of throttle very quick and gently and it always worked.
Assuming the photographer's camera shoots at from five to eight frames per second then you're looking at less than a second for the oh shite moment. :ohmy:
Been there, done that, but ended much worse as I was tossed 12-15ft in the air before coming back down! :ohmy:
Let me tell you wheelchairs don't handle worth a crap! :blush:
Glad you weren't messed up bad! :fing02:
These things happen extremely fast barely giving much time for thought, but chopping the throttle is the Last thing to do. :huh:
There's an article in this month's (Dec. 2010) Motor Cyclist, by keith Code. Here's a quote. "This is one of the cardinal rules of sliding: The less you do about it, the better". and; "In this key area of confidence with traction, learning what not to do may be the most important". "The best way to learn is on a small cheap dirt bike".
[image: View Post]Bent, on 05 November 2010 - 03:56 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Rice, on 05 November 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:
How does one save a situation like this?
You go into a turn, get on the gas and the rear lets go.
The first instinct is to 1 - countersteer to get back on course (try any way) and 2 - chop the throttle.
these are the two actions that result in a high-side as the rear regains traction.
Theoretically (no personal experience here) if he woulda kept on the throttle, he would have made it flat track style all the way around. For that you need some mad skillz and power to keep smoking that tire all the way around. See, I toldya theoretically :blink:
But seriously, How does one save this?
I don't claim to be an xpert but everytime I felt the rear get loose, I immediately gave it a very little bit of throttle very quick and gently and it always worked.
i think yall are right here--keep on the throttle and ride it out. You can see in frame 4 on the right that he backed off the throttle which unloaded the rear tire and caused it to lose traction...