I have only ever used Metzler Z6s in the past. I finally got my new PR 2CTs mounted this past week. The only problem was that the shop couldn't balance the rear wheel / tire. I think the closest shop who can is 50 miles from here...damn... (The front apparently balanced with no wheel weights necessary...hmm...)
I was going to try and ride the thing for a while and see if I noticed anything goofy from the back end before asking this, but apparently we have a delayed spring here in Detroit so I haven't ridden it past the garage door seal...
[image: View Post]Lobster, on 03 April 2011 - 09:30 PM, said:
I have only ever used Metzler Z6s in the past. I finally got my new PR 2CTs mounted this past week. The only problem was that the shop couldn't balance the rear wheel / tire. I think the closest shop who can is 50 miles from here...damn... (The front apparently balanced with no wheel weights necessary...hmm...)
I was going to try and ride the thing for a while and see if I noticed anything goofy from the back end before asking this, but apparently we have a delayed spring here in Detroit so I haven't ridden it past the garage door seal...
Any forward thoughts before I take it out?
I started mounting my own tires whatever weights were on the last time I paid for it are still there. I have no issues what so ever. I have had 3 different sets of tires no problems.Results may vary.lol.Give it a try!
It's pretty easy to balance the rear. There's got to be a thread around here somewhere. I think HS had either a blog or how to. Should take you about 10 minutes once you have all the PVC parts.
Just installed a new set of Pilot Powers. I had a friend of mine who had just opened up a shop (auto) do some servicing on the bike and install the tires. H did the install, but he didn't have the equipment to balance them. I've been riding hard for a couple hundred miles with no issues whatsoever.
[image: View Post]Lobster, on 03 April 2011 - 09:30 PM, said:
I have only ever used Metzler Z6s in the past. I finally got my new PR 2CTs mounted this past week. The only problem was that the shop couldn't balance the rear wheel / tire. I think the closest shop who can is 50 miles from here...damn... (The front apparently balanced with no wheel weights necessary...hmm...)
I was going to try and ride the thing for a while and see if I noticed anything goofy from the back end before asking this, but apparently we have a delayed spring here in Detroit so I haven't ridden it past the garage door seal...
I agree with this statement.
I've had three sets of PR2s and they have not required any weight to balance. No issues at all.
Michelin must have very precise manufacturing and testing specifications.
[image: View Post]dutchinterceptor, on 04 April 2011 - 07:25 AM, said:
Of all the tires I've mounted michelins typically don't require very much weight. Per y2kvfr's suggestion.... CLICK HERE
I have the Marc Parnes balancer, and every rear I have put on needed weights. I also have some of the Harbor Freight VFR cones for their balancer, which I don't own...so if a cone will help you out I can send you one.
[image: View Post]y2kvfr, on 04 April 2011 - 06:46 AM, said:
Lobster:
It's pretty easy to balance the rear. There's got to be a thread around here somewhere. I think HS had either a blog or how to. Should take you about 10 minutes once you have all the PVC parts.
The wheel has to maintain perfect ecentricity, backyard set up quality id expect to vary alot, compared to the Precision fit cone I have. But yes, I have felt improperly balanced rear tires on the vfr straight off the dealers snap on balancer.
I stopped using dealers for balancing several years ago.
Keep in mind if most your riding is below 80 mph, you can be really out of balance and not notice. Spend alot of time post tripple and its the difference between smooth Glass and rocky road
Lobster - did your tire guy break the seal and rotate the tire on the rim - to try to balance in a couple spots? I've done that a couple times to get the weight required down to almost nil.
If you're heading over my way for work - bring that tire and rim and we'll get it fixed up. My tire changer is your tire changer.....
I use a No-Mar balancer to balance mine and when I pulled the first set off my 6th gen to put new tires on I put both wheels with old tires, with the factory weights on the wheels, on the balancer and neither were in balance and I didn't notice any vibration before I pulled them off (I did a 1 hour 120 mph stint in BFE Wyoming just before I changed them). YMMV.
[image: View Post]Kanadian Ken, on 04 April 2011 - 09:21 PM, said:
Lobster - did your tire guy break the seal and rotate the tire on the rim - to try to balance in a couple spots? I've done that a couple times to get the weight required down to almost nil.
If you're heading over my way for work - bring that tire and rim and we'll get it fixed up. My tire changer is your tire changer.....
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Thanks, Homey. I have them bead thingy things coming in the mail. I'll ride with them and see what happens.
For what it's worth, I tried using Dyna Beads in lieu of conventional wheel weights in my '98 Triumph T-509 Speed Triple's front wheel & tire assembly and did not find them very effective.
After I purchased the beads and installation kit I read a Motorcycle Consumer News article from a few years back in which they tested the product and concluded Dyna Beads were not nearly as effective at eliminating imbalances as having your tire and wheel assembly balanced with a good guality wheel balancer and conventional clip-on or stick-on wheel weights.
Apparently some people swear Dyna Beads are effective, but after trying them I was similarly unimpressed.
[image: View Post]VFRbeliever, on 04 April 2011 - 07:04 AM, said:
Just installed a new set of Pilot Powers. I had a friend of mine who had just opened up a shop (auto) do some servicing on the bike and install the tires. H did the install, but he didn't have the equipment to balance them. I've been riding hard for a couple hundred miles with no issues whatsoever.
The rims are generally not that bad. I have a bit of weight on my rear but that was onset after the wheels were dipped chrome. The front needs nothing added to it.
IIRC my Marc Parnes balancer ran me $115 but to me it was a good investment. Marc's very friendly and helpful if you call. My PR2 rear required 2 oz to balance.
Stock rear tire/wheel had 1 3/4 oz near the valve stem. Removed the weights before getting PR2s installed and balanced, they came back with 1 1/4 oz in virtually the same spot.
Looks like it's the rim that is out balance.
Front was /is weightless. Guess that's why it heads for the sky so often. :biggrin:
Find a new installer. Did you pay these guys? If they cannot do job the right way (no tool) the rear should be free. Why should you have to mess with it?
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I think a lot of so-called specialists in tyres don't know that there's a spot marked on the tyre where it's intentionally lighter to accomodate for where the valve goes on the rim (where it's unavoidably heavier)... You're supposed to line the spot up with the valve stem.
[image: View Post]Auspa�ol, on 10 June 2011 - 06:45 AM, said:
I think a lot of so-called specialists in tyres don't know that there's a spot marked on the tyre where it's intentionally lighter to accomodate for where the valve goes on the rim (where it's unavoidably heavier)... You're supposed to line the spot up with the valve stem.
After mounting up nearly 300 sets of tires I've found that the valve stem is rarely if ever the heavy spot on wheels plus not every tire manufacturer(ie Michelin) marks the light spot on their tires. Always balance your rims to find the actual heavy spot before mounting your tires. Posted Image
I invested in Marc Parnes balancer. It paid for itself after 1st install with $170 they want to mount and balance tires off the bike around here.
DynaBeeds I haven't had a good experience with. Might be operator error, so...
I still have 1/2 a can of them sloshing around in my garage.
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