Yesterday I had to call the towtruck 135 km from home. I had been riding with the D option selected on a tollway and when I stopped to collect the pass for entering a tolled section. I did not kill the motor and when getting on my way again, the bike stopped, in a way similar to running out of gas.
Once at a stand still, I could see that the Gear Indicator showed 4th gear and it would not start. I turned the key to OFF and back to ON several times as I could hear the clutch making a noise like it was looking for Neutral, it managed to get from 4th into 2nd but never found neutral.
I tried solving the problem by disconnecting the battery and connecting it up again, but, no dice. Frustrated I called for a tow and had the bike taken to the Dealer's whom I called on the way think that I had suffered the same fate as another member whose even numbered gear sensor went haywire (replaced under warranty and so far so good for him).
At the Dealer's Cuando, the mechanic performed what is supposedly a reset: turn key OFF, turn key ON, press up a gear, press down a gear. Disconnecting the battery is supposed to have the same effect. The bike started up first pop!!
They asked to keep the bike to look it over properly. On returning the mechanic mentioned the following:
PAGE 85 OF THE MANUAL described a simple procedure for solving this problem: move the bike backward and then forward with the key to OFF.
Sounds odd for such a technologically complex machine huh??
Just thought I'd throw this out there see if anyone else has been through this with the 1200... or similar techy glitches...
maybe too much tension or something on the gears that it couldn't disengage. I think it happens to my VFRs sometimes, where I have to rock it back a bit to get it into neutral.
[image: View Post]Dutchy, on 16 June 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:
Thanks!!!
(weather permitting) I will try and test drive one on Saturday......... :laughing6-hehe:
Enjoy... it's a real rocket ship of a bike... I did a 0 to 100 km/h test to see how quickly it accelerates... but when I got the chance to glimpse at the speedo, I was doing 180... that bike actually cost me my first ever speeding fine!!
It's kind fun clicking upa dn down the gears in manual mode, like F1... and you can see how easy life gets in Scooter mode (fully auto)... but it ind of takes the fun away... post up how many times your left foot goes for the gear lever and how many times your left hand reaches for the clutch!!
[image: View Post]Auspa�ol, on 16 June 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:
Sounds odd for such a technologically complex machine huh??
Just thought I'd throw this out there see if anyone else has been through this with the 1200... or similar techy glitches...
Yeah I had this same experience. Only thing was I have no dealership to call......and I cause the situation delibrately.
I had been thinking for a while about what would happen if I kill the engine with the bike in 6th gear. So I got on to the road and wound up some throttle and turn the ignition OFF. Engine goes off and I am hearing the sound of the wind passing by. All goes quiet at I come to a stop. Turn the switch back on and hit the started...nothing. Then I realize, the gear indicator is showing "5" means I have fifth gear engaged.
Cold sweat begins to form all over as I realize I just screwed up my bike. I did hear the clutches clicking away and I was thinking "this poor machine is trying to figure out what just happened to it". All attempts to start proved futile and the gear indicator continued to show 5th gear. So with ignition still on I decide to move the bike further off the road. As the wheels start to turn, the clicks from the clutch begin to sound rhythmic and I see the selector indicate 4 then 3 then 2 and 1 then N. Problem solved and case closed. With a smile on my face I realize that HONDA must have thought of dummies like me during the design and built this "fix" in. Created the situation again and executed solution to be sure it was not a fluke. Now I hear its in the manual. But all's well that ends well.
[image: View Post]fotodadi, on 17 June 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:
As the wheels start to turn, the clicks from the clutch begin to sound rhythmic and I see the selector indicate 4 then 3 then 2 and 1 then N. Problem solved and case closed. With a smile on my face I realize that HONDA must have thought of dummies like me during the design and built this "fix" in. Created the situation again and executed solution to be sure it was not a fluke. Now I hear its in the manual. But all's well that ends well.
Sounds just like any normal bike - can't shift through the gears unless the rear wheel is turning a wee bit!
[image: View Post]Auspa�ol, on 17 June 2011 - 04:15 AM, said:
post up how many times your left foot goes for the gear lever and how many times your left hand reaches for the clutch!!
hand once
foot twice
Found I got used to DCT very quickly.
and yes, a WARP speed machine, shudder to think what it wil be like if Honda put that engine in a sports trim a la RC45 and remove 1/2 gear limitter.. BRRRRRRRRRR.....
[image: View Post]Dutchy, on 18 June 2011 - 07:05 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Auspa�ol, on 17 June 2011 - 04:15 AM, said:
post up how many times your left foot goes for the gear lever and how many times your left hand reaches for the clutch!!
hand once
foot twice
Found I got used to DCT very quickly.
and yes, a WARP speed machine, shudder to think what it wil be like if Honda put that engine in a sports trim a la RC45 and remove 1/2 gear limitter.. BRRRRRRRRRR.....
��LOL!! more or less the same as me... one adapts real quick... but it would appear the hand adapts quicker than the foot :biggrin:
[image: View Post]kaldek, on 17 June 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:
[image: View Post]fotodadi, on 17 June 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:
As the wheels start to turn, the clicks from the clutch begin to sound rhythmic and I see the selector indicate 4 then 3 then 2 and 1 then N. Problem solved and case closed. With a smile on my face I realize that HONDA must have thought of dummies like me during the design and built this "fix" in. Created the situation again and executed solution to be sure it was not a fluke. Now I hear its in the manual. But all's well that ends well.
Sounds just like any normal bike - can't shift through the gears unless the rear wheel is turning a wee bit!
Too true... always had to rock the bike forward a bit to get succesive gears to engage with the bike off...
[image: View Post]fotodadi, on 17 June 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Auspa�ol, on 16 June 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:
Sounds odd for such a technologically complex machine huh??
Just thought I'd throw this out there see if anyone else has been through this with the 1200... or similar techy glitches...
Yeah I had this same experience. Only thing was I have no dealership to call......and I cause the situation delibrately.
I had been thinking for a while about what would happen if I kill the engine with the bike in 6th gear. So I got on to the road and wound up some throttle and turn the ignition OFF. Engine goes off and I am hearing the sound of the wind passing by. All goes quiet at I come to a stop. Turn the switch back on and hit the started...nothing. Then I realize, the gear indicator is showing "5" means I have fifth gear engaged.
Cold sweat begins to form all over as I realize I just screwed up my bike. I did hear the clutches clicking away and I was thinking "this poor machine is trying to figure out what just happened to it". All attempts to start proved futile and the gear indicator continued to show 5th gear. So with ignition still on I decide to move the bike further off the road. As the wheels start to turn, the clicks from the clutch begin to sound rhythmic and I see the selector indicate 4 then 3 then 2 and 1 then N. Problem solved and case closed. With a smile on my face I realize that HONDA must have thought of dummies like me during the design and built this "fix" in. Created the situation again and executed solution to be sure it was not a fluke. Now I hear its in the manual. But all's well that ends well.
Hehehe I can imagine the expressions on your face... you probably thought you wuldn't be covered by the warranty 'cause you provoked the issue yourself... then the following thought "AH, but I needn't tell the dealer that I did it... I'll say that it just happened" :cool:
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