I read through all the post in the search. I have a 2000 with the stock headers and a 2Bros. carbon high slip-on, K&N and no snorkel. Put the gearing a bit lower than it was. Ohlins rear shock, nothing done to the front yet.
So, I am kinda a sporty rider, never owned a sport tourer but had plenty of sport bikes. My only injected bike so far has been a Triumph Daytona 595. Now, my question is will I see a real worthwhile improvment in rideability and power with a PC on my bike? Worth the $300 bucks or so? and the time messing around getting it installed and progammed?
Anybody have a ballpark figure on how much this helps? The PC? I plan on doing more sport riding than touring, with perhaps a track session or two and lots of mountain roads.
A PC will get you modest performance gains if any. However, it can improve fueling and make the throttle response much more smooth.
I installed a PCIII on my 2003 and it improved the throttle response at low rpm. The stock fueling made part throttle adjustments at low engine speeds very abrupt. Smooth as butter now. My seat of the pants feeling tells me there is a little more power above 9500 rpm, but I have not confirmed this on a dyno.
+1 on the smoothing out the throttle response. If you really want to get more out of it, have it Dyno tuned, I'm sure you'll be even more impressed. Although they only show the PCV is for 2009+, I understand that it will work on models older than that and if so, I would recommend the PCV.
+1 on the smoothing out the throttle response. If you really want to get more out of it, have it Dyno tuned, I'm sure you'll be even more impressed. Although they only show the PCV is for 2009+, I understand that it will work on models older than that and if so, I would recommend the PCV.
I hear on the throttle response, especially (from what I've read) the V-tech bikes, which I don't have. My 2000 seems pretty seamless the way it delivers power. I don't see much need for 'smoothing it out' even through lower part of the RPM band, where I seldom ride for long. It already feels plenty smooth, though I might "see" some humps and dips if I put it on a dyno, I guess.
If the performance gains are slight, then I am thinking my money can be better spent on the front end, first. I find my suspension, especially the front end feel, is less than the rest of the bike deserves. Does anyone ride a 2000 with a PC and have any numbers?
FWIW, one of the reasons I ended up with my 5th Gen is that I was at my local track (Oregon raceway park) with my Honda Hawk track bike last fall, waiting for my turn on the dyno, to get a reading on my flatslide carb jetting, and there was a 6th Gen on the rollers ahead of me. The Dynojet guy got that fellow about 13% HP gain and rid him of a big dip in the transition (V-Tech) rpm range. After hearing the howl of that V-4, I put my 75hp Hawk GT on the Craig's list and found my 2000 VFR..
I put a PC on my 5th gen for one purpose, to smooth out the off idle throttle response. I used one of the canned maps for a slip on, K&N filter and regular gas. It did a great job. Out of curiousity, I tried the premium fuel map (with premium fuel) and it was horrendous. There was a near wreck inducing terrible hesitation. I went back to the regular fuel map and never looked back. If you have realistic expectations of what the PC can do, you will be pleased.
+1 on the smoothing out the throttle response. If you really want to get more out of it, have it Dyno tuned, I'm sure you'll be even more impressed. Although they only show the PCV is for 2009+, I understand that it will work on models older than that and if so, I would recommend the PCV.
I hear on the throttle response, especially (from what I've read) the V-tech bikes, which I don't have. My 2000 seems pretty seamless the way it delivers power. I don't see much need for 'smoothing it out' even through lower part of the RPM band, where I seldom ride for long. It already feels plenty smooth, though I might "see" some humps and dips if I put it on a dyno, I guess.
If the performance gains are slight, then I am thinking my money can be better spent on the front end, first. I find my suspension, especially the front end feel, is less than the rest of the bike deserves. Does anyone ride a 2000 with a PC and have any numbers?
FWIW, one of the reasons I ended up with my 5th Gen is that I was at my local track (Oregon raceway park) with my Honda Hawk track bike last fall, waiting for my turn on the dyno, to get a reading on my flatslide carb jetting, and there was a 6th Gen on the rollers ahead of me. The Dynojet guy got that fellow about 13% HP gain and rid him of a big dip in the transition (V-Tech) rpm range. After hearing the howl of that V-4, I put my 75hp Hawk GT on the Craig's list and found my 2000 VFR..
If you are planning on using it on the track or aggresive play riding, I would go with the suspension first, or at least tune what you have now. Power is no good without control. Since I ride a majority of miles commuting on freeways, I went with smooting out the throttle issue first. Since I have the Ducati for real "playtime" fun, I figured I would wait on any suspension and other mods for the VFR. One of the first mods will be SS clutch/brake lines, then suspesion and a proper dyno tune. I need to replenish the bank account first, as all of these cost are going to cost a few hundred in the least.
Fitted the PCIII sometime back....tough getting the right map since each bike is different. I installed a few and tested till i got a smooth ride. Now i have installed the map selection switch...manage between the standard and power mode
Fitted the PCIII sometime back....tough getting the right map since each bike is different. I installed a few and tested till i got a smooth ride. Now i have installed the map selection switch...manage between the standard and power mode
You can do this on a PC3? I thought map selection/switching was a PCV thing. Tell me more.
I put a PC5 and AutoTune on my Y2K about a month ago. I'd say it's 100% worth it! Super smooth mid range and more power. The big change is when your cruising around and go to WOT, and Bam! it go's like a wiped wild animal. There are two downsides, one is mpg and two is slight after farts on deceleration.
I read through all the post in the search. I have a 2000 with the stock headers and a 2Bros. carbon high slip-on, K&N and no snorkel. Put the gearing a bit lower than it was. Ohlins rear shock, nothing done to the front yet.
So, I am kinda a sporty rider, never owned a sport tourer but had plenty of sport bikes. My only injected bike so far has been a Triumph Daytona 595. Now, my question is will I see a real worthwhile improvment in rideability and power with a PC on my bike? Worth the $300 bucks or so? and the time messing around getting it installed and progammed?
Anybody have a ballpark figure on how much this helps? The PC? I plan on doing more sport riding than touring, with perhaps a track session or two and lots of mountain roads.