HELP!!!! Timesert thread repair kit

Anybody here have an account with Time Sert or a Time Sert dealer so I can get a discount on this $200 kit I'm about to order to repair my spark plug hole [image: Posted Image] Thanks in advance!!

:computer-noworky: :angry: Anybody...........please...............

Since no one seems to be answering, yet.

Can't you get an acct. , then order?

I ordered some timeserts from Pendergrass Tool a few years ago.  Their prices didn't seem to have as much markup as others, and you can even call the owner if you need help/advice.

http://www.pendergra....com/index.html

[image: View Post]NVR2L8, on 19 March 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

I ordered some timeserts from Pendergrass Tool a few years ago.  Their prices didn't seem to have as much markup as others, and you can even call the owner if you need help/advice.

http://www.pendergra....com/index.html

Thank you sir, I shall call him tomorrow for pricing, had not seen his site yet (didn't pop up when I googled the part number)

[image: View Post]Monk, on 19 March 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

Since no one seems to be answering, yet.

Can't you get an acct. , then order?

Probably, just don't feel like going through the BS to become a distributor or some such nonsense like that.  Can't buy directly from Time Sert, have to go though a dealer.

Maybe a used cylinder head would be cheaper? Ebay? VFRd classifieds?

[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 19 March 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

Maybe a used cylinder head would be cheaper? Ebay? VFRd classifieds?

While you are correct and it would allmost definately be cheaper to do a head, I'm trying to avoid dropping the whole engine out.

I've never used their Spark Plug Hole repair kit, but I've used about every other thread size they make.   For me, anyway, Recoil is my prefered brand of thread repair.

Available through Grainger and most other supply houses.

http://www.afsrecoil.net/

arent you worried about the shavings living in your cyliner wall when you tap it?

hey angelo...
use the next size up spark plug!! since you have to tap it anyway..
put bearing grease on the tap when you do it.. it will trap and hold 99.99999 % of the shavings. :happy:

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 21 March 2012 - 03:27 AM, said:

I've never used their Spark Plug Hole repair kit, but I've used about every other thread size they make.   For me, anyway, Recoil is my prefered brand of thread repair.

Available through Grainger and most other supply houses.

http://www.afsrecoil.net/
compairing RECOIL to TIMECERT is like  a yugo vs a tank... :tongue:
i will take the timecert tank and will spend the extra money.. its WORTH IT!

[image: View Post]gll429, on 21 March 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

compairing RECOIL to TIMECERT is like  a yugo vs a tank...

I've installed literally hundreds (probably 300 - 400) recoil inserts in industry.  I guarantee the repair will be stronger than the original aluminum threads that mother Honda tapped in the head when the motorcycle left the factory floor.  

If you're just wanting to spend money, knock yourself out.   If you're wanting a good, solid repair that is stronger than new, a Recoil insert will serve you well.

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 21 March 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

[image: View Post]gll429, on 21 March 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

compairing RECOIL to TIMECERT is like  a yugo vs a tank...

I've installed literally hundreds (probably 300 - 400) recoil inserts in industry.  I guarantee the repair will be stronger than the original aluminum threads that mother Honda tapped in the head when the motorcycle left the factory floor.  

If you're just wanting to spend money, knock yourself out.   If you're wanting a good, solid repair that is stronger than new, a Recoil insert will serve you well.

i am sure you are right.. however.. its still a coiled wire.. and timecert is a solid part. and mates flush with surface.
i too have installed hundreds of rethread kits of all brands.. thats what happens when customers bring you a bike after they tried fixing it themselves.
my fav time.. a HD with EVERY primary hole stripped and  "fixed " with recoil  !!
the customer had chewed up  1/2 of those.. he confused 120 INCH lbs with a 120 FOOT lbs. :unsure:

[image: View Post]gll429, on 21 March 2012 - 10:59 AM, said:

my fav time.. a HD with EVERY primary hole stripped and  "fixed " with recoil  !!
the customer had chewed up  1/2 of those.. he confused 120 INCH lbs with a 120 FOOT lbs. :unsure:
:laughing6-hehe:

Question: What can be almost as dangerous as a HOG rider with a gun?

Answer; HOG rider with a torque wrench...

That'll learnya to use torque wrenches on $hit that don't need it   :ph34r:

[image: View Post]gll429, on 21 March 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

like a yugo vs a tank... :tongue:




Yep,  a Yugo is not a tank.....


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[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 21 March 2012 - 03:27 AM, said:

I've never used their Spark Plug Hole repair kit, but I've used about every other thread size they make.   For me, anyway, Recoil is my prefered brand of thread repair.

Available through Grainger and most other supply houses.

http://www.afsrecoil.net/

They don't appear to make the size I need, but thanks for the idea!

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 21 March 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

arent you worried about the shavings living in your cyliner wall when you tap it?

Between using heavy grease on the tools to catch shavings and then following up with a good blowjob of the cylinder afterwards I have little worries of shavings.  Time Sert also advertises their product as an "over the fender" repair, meaning head removal is not required for a good job to be done.  I had thought of that though and I appreciate your concern as metal shavings in the engine is a major no no.

[image: View Post]gll429, on 21 March 2012 - 06:33 AM, said:

hey angelo...
use the next size up spark plug!! since you have to tap it anyway..
put bearing grease on the tap when you do it.. it will trap and hold 99.99999 % of the shavings. :happy:

Hadn't thought about that, I don't know if I'm comfortable running three of one sparky and one of another, sounds like an unbalanced situation.  

[image: View Post]Metallican525, on 21 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 21 March 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

arent you worried about the shavings living in your cyliner wall when you tap it?

Between using heavy grease on the tools to catch shavings and then following up with a good blowjob of the cylinder afterwards I have little worries of shavings.  Time Sert also advertises their product as an "over the fender" repair, meaning head removal is not required for a good job to be done.  I had thought of that though and I appreciate your concern as metal shavings in the engine is a major no no.

Last time (first time, too...) I did this (on a friend's bike, honest), we spun the engine until the intake valve was open and stuck an air hose down the intake so there was a constant flow out the spark plug hole.  That, plus grease on the tap.  Worked great.

Glenn

Look on eBay or do a Google search. The repair isn't hard, but when I did mine, I pulled the heads just to ensure that I wasn't getting any debris into the engine. The kit isn't cheap, but it is well worth it!!!

[image: View Post]rdguy, on 21 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Metallican525, on 21 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 21 March 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

arent you worried about the shavings living in your cyliner wall when you tap it?

Between using heavy grease on the tools to catch shavings and then following up with a good blowjob of the cylinder afterwards I have little worries of shavings.  Time Sert also advertises their product as an "over the fender" repair, meaning head removal is not required for a good job to be done.  I had thought of that though and I appreciate your concern as metal shavings in the engine is a major no no.

Last time (first time, too...) I did this (on a friend's bike, honest), we spun the engine until the intake valve was open and stuck an air hose down the intake so there was a constant flow out the spark plug hole.  That, plus grease on the tap.  Worked great.

Glenn
I have used the grease on the tap and also get the engine so it is on the bottom (start of the compression stroke)  so you can spin the engine afterwards with the plug out to force any cuttings out.

[image: View Post]FROSTIE, on 19 April 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

[image: View Post]rdguy, on 21 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Metallican525, on 21 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 21 March 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

arent you worried about the shavings living in your cyliner wall when you tap it?

Between using heavy grease on the tools to catch shavings and then following up with a good blowjob of the cylinder afterwards I have little worries of shavings.  Time Sert also advertises their product as an "over the fender" repair, meaning head removal is not required for a good job to be done.  I had thought of that though and I appreciate your concern as metal shavings in the engine is a major no no.

Last time (first time, too...) I did this (on a friend's bike, honest), we spun the engine until the intake valve was open and stuck an air hose down the intake so there was a constant flow out the spark plug hole.  That, plus grease on the tap.  Worked great.

Glenn
I have used the grease on the tap and also get the engine so it is on the bottom (start of the compression stroke)  so you can spin the engine afterwards with the plug out to force any cuttings out.

Yes, you DEFINATELY  need the piston NOT at or near top dead center while doing this repair (ask me how I know.......)  I have gotten the repair kit, preformed the repair, and gone out and flogged on her a good bit.  So far so good, just haven't had a chance to do a proper write up yet.  Needless to say I am one happy happy boy to have my girl back again!!