I am now officially in the club. What club? I dunno, but I have a VF500F. 1984 and its a runner! Paid a dollar a cc and I think I love it. This may change, lets hope it stays in the honeymoon stage.
Worldwide domination through amassing V4s!!!!
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nice ride, you'll enjoy it! lots of good info here to help you out as well.
When I very first glanced at this, I thought you had painted the Seca RWB, hahah. Is it time for some flat black creativity?
Very Fine Ride looks good always liked the light weight and the way these bikes handled .Looks good have fun with it .
Decent shape too! a bit of rust here and there but for the cash its a keeper.
If it didn't have any rust, Timmy wouldn't own it.
I'm waiting for the back to back to back Seca/VF/VFR ride report...
...............stop bothering me, I'm bolting on my Raask rearsets.
Is it just me , or is there something amiss with the colour????????
JeffLaurenceIs it just me , or is there something amiss with the colour????????
its you. This is the Haitian market correct colours.
I want to ride that on 129....... In May. This year. Then I want to buy this for my son. Well done Timmy!
Let me what I got in the way of matching plastics that I can part with...I may have something that matches the tail/side pieces and we can work something out.
I am slowly talking myself into the idea of giving up the lockhart full front fairing with pristine matching plastics and solo rear seat cowl even though I have only seen three of those rear cowls in the flesh in 25 years...
We would of course need to have something notarized with regards to any flat black spray bombs and mandatory 75 meter restraining order...
ps, if Yoshi doesn't pick up his new track bike soon I know where you can get a great set of wheels and shock to make this lil 500 handle like a dream. :goofy:
Haitian or Philipines color correct...
Nooooo, don't you dare paint that bike flat black. Be patient, you will find the matching parts it needs. Original paint is worth MORE too. These little 500's are great for tight twisty roads...just no top end....none....nada....zilch. lol
NakedVifferWhen I very first glanced at this, I thought you had painted the Seca RWB, hahah. Is it time for some flat black creativity?
not entirely true, when I weighed about 158 I topped one out at 124 mph ... today the 25 year old engine rings/valves combined with 25 years of onion rings would probably limit me to bouncing up against the ton and struggling to punch through 110
but so much fun in the twisty bits.
And you did that without a gun, Jesse? Nice indeed. Among my clutter is its' 1/2 brother; a VTR 2 fiddy. We call them BarbieCeptors here. If it were matte black maybe it wouldn't be so girlie looking. Good fortune, R3~
Just when we thought the Early VFR section was safe...
Looks cool. Nice score!
somebody got pushed outta the shed
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Raask installation COMPLETE!
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also, somehow 3 tanks got thrown-in, one being this rather minty V45 tank. Lemmee know if anyone wants it before I chuck it on eBay.
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Nice!!! But between you and Skuuter, my god!!!
Does this mean you're selling your Seca???
Can I interest you in flat black??
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when I finally get the Seca running correctly, I am going to ride it back and forth to work until it explodes. I am going to un-ass my Guzzi though. Anyone want an Italian project?
timmythecopwhen I finally get the Seca running correctly, I am going to ride it back and forth to work until it explodes. I am going to un-ass my Guzzi though. Anyone want an Italian project?
I live with an "Italian project" so NO I'll stick with one at a time!
Nice second choice to a 4th Gen............... :goofy:
Yeah the world has corrected itself, way to go Timmy ..
should I even put this on the VFRD classifieds? I wonder if this bike has any interest (besides me, I had a lot of fun on it)
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only a mother could love that ..... Sorry Timmy ...
Switchbladeonly a mother could love that ..... Sorry Timmy ...
I've been called a mother a few times.
HA HA yeah but I bet your a great cop .....
Timmy, remind me what the story is with the Guzzi. I think there will be extra space on the trailer returning from TMAC...
Sweet score on the new V4. I really liked the 500 when I got to take a test ride on one. Lots of power and pretty light weight.
Someone will buy that Guzzi off of you, just probably not here. Maybe someone from the cafe racer sites.
Well done! Careful maintenance of the valve lash, selecting a top notch motor oil and filter, proper engine warm-up and keeping the revs in check (the hardest thing to do) are all keys to owning a 500. They're great bikes but definitely not a 'set it and forget it' type of engine. Good luck and have fun!
I think the Guzzi would make a cool project.
Congratulations Timmy. The big question, in my mind, is: Does the monkey like it?
Kid tested. monkey approved!
its even smaller than the Seca
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I just remembered, I have a bucket of bolts and a nice clean radiator for that bike.
Leftovers from this: http://vfrworld.com/forums/1st-2nd-generation-1983-1989/14050-death-vf500-i-tried-make-quick-painless.html
(forgive the link to the "other" site... looks like the thread here got pruned!)
I am still amazed at how much of that bike went together with 10mm hex head bolts!
Just for a goof, I sprayed carb cleaner into the intake snout and hit the button. Idled just fine. I hope it does the same with actual gasoline!
V50: Do you know anyone on the Guzzi list? There are a few truly dedicated fanatics in MD. If you don't have a connection PM the details and I'll re-route them to 'persons of interest'. I have a Daytona, LeMans 2 and a 1000 and an '87 V50 III. R3~
Roebling3V50: Do you know anyone on the Guzzi list? There are a few truly dedicated fanatics in MD. If you don't have a connection PM the details and I'll re-route them to 'persons of interest'. I have a Daytona, LeMans 2 and a 1000 and an '87 V50 III. R3~
I had to sell My 1000sp and my Lemans MkIII during hard times about 7 years ago. Broke my heart. PM sent.
timmythecopJust for a goof, I sprayed carb cleaner into the intake snout and hit the button. Idled just fine. I hope it does the same with actual gasoline!
That's great news Timmy!...I should be able to sort through the plastics I have and see whether I have a set to match your tail/side plastics or whether I have to move the full set on to you...
I bet it was flat black paint.
nothing as cool as NOS period accessories. Especialy when they cost 10 bucks
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Is that for a tank or mc. Heavy duty !!!!!
says motorbike right on the label
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dang.... those are rare.
Oh case guards.
timmythecopsays motorbike right on the label
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Wish you had asked, I have a couple sets of those.
One moment please...
Couple pairs in here I think
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New in package...
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Oh yeah nice........
what next, a 12 o'clock bar? those look like caveman versions of the cages that stunters use today. :goofy:
CornerCarverwhat next, a 12 o'clock bar? those look like caveman versions of the cages that stunters use today. :goofy:
and here I thought the miniceptor ws bringing us closer, Richard.
Switchbladeonly a mother could love that ..... Sorry Timmy ...
Put guzzi on craigslist at 800 bucks more than I have into it. 27 responses in 10 hours. A bidding war has broken out. Lots of mothers out there!
Sweeet!
you may make enough to purchase a very nice set of matching plastics along with both the smal chin fairing and period correct Lockhart Phillips full lower...the jury is still out on whether or not I toss in the very rare rear seat cowl and latch (in matching factory colors as well) but the Richard remark has me leaning towards yes. :goofy:
...mancrush........... resumed.
How do we feel about V&H full systems? ...Were FOR EM! (148 bones sounded like a deal)
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Nice score. For reference, for fellow 500 fans:
Aftermarket Systems From Back in the Day
Hindle 4-1, requires a modification to stock chin cowling (a slot cut into the right side)
Kerker 4-2, paired with cylinders 1|3 and 2|4 *considered the best pairing for 4-2 systems*
Mac 4-2
SuperTrapp 4-2, equal length system (staggered mufflers)
Vance & Hines 4-2, paired with cylinders 1|2 and 3|4
Yoshimura 4-1 (Japan only) and 4-2, paired with cylinders 1|3 and 2|4 *considered the best pairing for 4-2 systems
InvisibleCitiesNice score. For reference, for fellow 500 fans:
I am going to PM you and ask you a million questions...is that OK?
also, 1.5 hunge for that full system IS a good deal, right?
Aftermarket systems for the 500's 360d V4 engine are tricky in terms of performance. Most (if not all) actually rob power over the stock system*. Of course they look nice and sound nice.
I think for a solid system $150 is a good deal so no worries.
A little more info:
* it has to do with the wonderful mysterious collector box...
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Timmy:
The Daytona has gotten to be a lot of motorcycle for these eighty year old bones. But some how when that thing clears the garage doors we can do almost anything. VFR 'people' remind me of Guzzi people, unlike any other brand mc owners. Great folks no matter how you contact them. Good fortune, R3~
The Guzzi was stuffed into a Honda Element and driven away. Timmy is, for once, up on the tally sheet.
timmythecopSwitchbladeonly a mother could love that ..... Sorry Timmy ...
Put guzzi on craigslist at 800 bucks more than I have into it. 27 responses in 10 hours. A bidding war has broken out. Lots of mothers out there!
WOW theres are a lot mother lovers around there, ah that dont sound right. But thats great for you. Now you get see someone else riding it.
got he carbs off with a minimal amount of bloodshed. Now a good cleaning and research into start points with rejetting and on with the new boots. (I have come to the conclusion that all bikes in the known world need new boots!)
I really want to time this with the arrival of the exhaust to minimize the on-off of the carb bank. I am hoping for a miracle, so I can do it once.
Yeah I remember those days, first time was when one of the fiber fuel tubes that ran in between the carbs crack and started leaking fuel on the motor. Of course Honda replaced the plastic tubes with metal ones.
You may want to double check the numbers on the carburetors to confirm the year.
On this note all the years are slightly different with the '84/'85 having the larger bore. The emulsion tubes, needle jets and jet needles also vary over the three years. It is another puzzling (or maybe endearing?) quirk to the 500.
If thinking of rejetting keep in mind this isn't the easiest thing to do on the 500. You'll need plenty of patience and if possible a friend with an EGA.
While servicing the carbs remember to check the float height. If you don't yet have a FSM it is a must for the library shelf.
New boots & a few tricks are key to the reinstall. No hammers required!
Good luck!
Yeah and make sure the fuel tubes are metal and not plastic and if they are replace them now. Oh yeah dont loose those little springs, they are VERY important.
SwitchbladeYeah and make sure the fuel tubes are metal and not plastic and if they are replace them now. Oh yeah dont loose those little springs, there are VERY important.
Not 100% on this but I believe 6061 alumInum fuel tubes are only available for the larger displacement Interceptors not the 500.
InvisibleCitiesSwitchbladeYeah and make sure the fuel tubes are metal and not plastic and if they are replace them now. Oh yeah dont loose those little springs, there are VERY important.
Not 100% on this but I believe 6061 alumInum fuel tubes are only available for the larger displacement Interceptors not the 500.
My 84 Magna was one of the first to arrive in the states, the third winter I had it I went to start it and it back fired. Didnt think anything about it, spring time arrives jump on the Magna head to the mountains, the first red light I stop at and wow the gas smell was over whelming. Look down and pant leg and it is wet, yeah you guest it gasoline. Stop and had to load it on a pickup truck. I think well I know it was caused by the winter back fire(crack one of the fuel tubes right past the oil ring). Long story made short the dealer did me a favor(HaHa) and gave me the metal fuel tubes and did me another favor by letting me install them. 6 months later Honda
did a in house recall on any V4's that developed gas leaks.
To bad there not available on 500's.
Guess good to know when I go do the engine swap on the 85 V30.
and being older and wiser....I just ordered a jet kit. The though of home-brewing all that individually different jett and needle and emulson tube for each carb made my head hurt.
Either Seb has a flux capacitor, or he divided by zero...
Sent from my handheld-sending-thing...
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timmythecopand being older and wiser....I just ordered a jet kit. The though of home-brewing all that individually different jett and needle and emulson tube for each carb made my head hurt.
Take a photo of it when it arrives and post it please.
For reference (best to check the carburetor ID before diving in).
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Factory Pro Specs:
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Also, on the emulsion tubes, my take is that these follow the needles. I'm not 100% on this though as I have seen a few sets with crisscrossed emulsion tubes..
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I'd be curious to know what you find when you disassemble the set you have.
I was going to ask you about all that, so extra thanks for compiling it for me. I'll let you know how mine carbs were when I get the bowls off later today.
InvisibleCities* it has to do with the wonderful mysterious collector box...
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So THAT'S whats inside there. Thanks for sharing.
It is a big heavy beast though, innit?
TImmy, that V&H 'Zorst is gonna look nice with some TLC. It seems in good nick, despite the age.
150 bucks, well, since it's unobtanium, it's worth however badly you need/want it.
Gonna have the 500 ready for Tmac? It would really like those twisty bits.
Once you get it running right, you need to figure out a wheel/fork swap so you can run radials, then sell off the old 500 bits.
Then hire Seb or Brad to paint it for you.
Don't have the numbers to compare the 500's stock system (mufflers & collector box) to an aftermarket system.
I have a hunch stock is about 130% heavier in general.
This said, the stock collector box does a good job of evening out the exhaust flow where aftermarket systems can muddle this a bit - most designed for top-end performance while sacrificing the mid-range.
Give and take like most things.
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timmythecopThe Guzzi was stuffed into a Honda Element and driven away. Timmy is, for once, up on the tally sheet.
Saw that, watery grave lol
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timmythecopnothing as cool as NOS period accessories. Especialy when they cost 10 bucks
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Damn, I knew I shoulda had mine up in the classifieds!!! Anybody else need a set?? PM me <threadjack completed>
I secretly want this bike at least running well by TMac. If CornerCarver ever gets his finger out, I may not need any paint. (but i will have to sign a "No flat black" clause to seal that deal. I guess it will all depend on how well the re-jet goes. If it is anything like rejetting a SECA II, then it will be ready for TMac 2015. The carb bank is soaking in pine sol as we speak, and should be well clean in time for the new internals and exhaust.
Looks like you time it perfectly for TMac .......
There's that devil ..
I am afraid that it wil end up like "biker buildoff" where I am assembling it the night before. Not to mention, I have to ride it 4 hours west to hook up with my ride down. 4 hours of thinking "did I put that back on right??......"
timmythecopI am afraid that it wil end up like "biker buildoff" where I am assembling it the night before. Not to mention, I have to ride it 4 hours west to hook up with my ride down. 4 hours of thinking "did I put that back on right??......"
Yeah thats not fun and if you screw up on a mc rebuild it could hurt BAD ....
Never do any work on the bike the 2 or 3 days before a trip... golden rule of thumb... unless you have good insurance and ample roadside assistance!!
Cornercarver made you do it? :unsure:
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now, getting the rear pipes off..............
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the whole system weighs WAY less than just the 2 stiock end cans
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"The'er bult like tanks!"
Wow you chromed the canisters.
:goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy:
It would appear the shed is filling up... time to add on!!
on the other side of the wall to the right is a veritable junkyard. Addition is in planning stages.I wish I could keep crap of the bench, so I could use it! BTW, my other, home made "enclosure" is still standing after a tornado and 2 hurricanes.
I got home last night from my business and spent the day working on other crap.
I will send you some pics tomorrow, it's the least I can do since you have already purchased, paid for and received an exhaust while i have been just talking about plastics? Plastics? You talking plastics? (say it in an Allen Iverson tone and it gets funny-ish) I mean you not talking about the game, right, you just talking about plastics?
timmythecopcan I get a woot?
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Looks nice and shiny...just don't dent that 700 tank!!
the box that the pipes came in is PERFECT for that 700 tank!
The 700 tank has a repaint - wouldn't be surprised if there was a dent hiding under that paint somewhere.
Right in the area where the handle bar would contacts it ..... right Seb .....
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTT
according to the alliance, who has to help the Japanese? .........zee Germans
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my wife is gonna kill me.
This is the two wheeled equivalent of a Mexican stray dog rescue society.
You bought another bike, you are still working ?
you had the triumvirate before you got rid of Mussolini's bike...
But now you have a shed to hide it in! Heck, my mom didn't notice when my dad bought the RWB for half a year.
You still alive Timmey??
Good luck with that. You must have a much, MUCH! bigger stock of brownie points saved up than me.
C
I think you may want to step away from the bottle and ebay, timmy...
Dont worry- It was delivered this morning and I already have it sold for a 200% profit. F2 wheels are not going to buy themselves, you know.
Keith, it didnt even occur to me that I just missed the entire Axis by a few days. Good one.
F2 wheels huh. Another project I missed?
after coming out of a 2 day in-bed sickness, I discovered that the problem was that the petcock flowed really slowly and that is why the 2 right jugs were starved of fuel. That has been solved BUT, I still do not have a title and I keep thinking about the court appearance where the judge says "Sergeant Steffes, you should have known better....", so I AM loading up the Yellow Peril for the trip.
This is double bad news because I wanted everyone who wanted to have a go, to be able shriek around on that little rocket. It kinda negates all the sleepless days working on it to get it ready in time, but what are you gonna do, right?
I think I will drink some gin and then go bid on El Caminos to drown my sorrows.
Well there always next year and you made a hella run at it ..
The Peril??? That thing is a death trap!! :goofy:
You guys out of room on the rig? You sure you can't squeeze that little guy in there somewhere?
Eventually you are going to take it to court (to get the title, I presume). Why wait? You're going to have to anyways. At least this way you know if you have a street bike or a track bike.
Also, there is that go-kart track behind the motel that may be big enough for the 500, but would require on-site testing. :fing02:
Spoke with Timmy last night - I believe the issue is that if the bike were to get impunded in NC for no title, the ONLY solution would be for the previously titled owner to show up in NC to gather the bike up. That wouldn't happen - so Timmy would be out a bike (long term) and depending on when the impound happened during the week that we are there - he may be riding a lawnchair at the motel for a few days while the rest of us are riding.
The Yellow Peril is the better choice given the circumstances.
I'm meeting Timmy about an hour south of Pittsburgh in Morgantown WV, and then we're loading his bike up from there. Couldn't really get 3 bikes on my trailer - it would be close to overload with that weight - and for a long trip - not gonna do that.
Is there a 'Cycle Garden' subsidiary in Netherlands? ;) www.cyclegarden.com Home of spectacular Guzzi restorations.
Good fortune, R3~
took it for a 20 minute ride, It is alarming how quickly it changes direction.
more test rides......
I love the motor. Very revvy, and the torque curve is a straight slant up. The power is near the same everywhere, so you do not have to pin it all the time. Really like it!
timmythecopafter coming out of a 2 day in-bed sickness, I discovered that the problem was that the petcock flowed really slowly and that is why the 2 right jugs were starved of fuel. That has been solved BUT, I still do not have a title and I keep thinking about the court appearance where the judge says "Sergeant Steffes, you should have known better....", so I AM loading up the Yellow Peril for the trip.
This is double bad news because I wanted everyone who wanted to have a go, to be able shriek around on that little rocket. It kinda negates all the sleepless days working on it to get it ready in time, but what are you gonna do, right?
I think I will drink some gin and then go bid on El Caminos to drown my sorrows.
So, did you get an El Camino?? If so, we need pics!!!
C
PS Sorry about all that hard work going to waste...
timmythecopmore test rides......
I love the motor. Very revvy, and the torque curve is a straight slant up. The power is near the same everywhere, so you do not have to pin it all the time. Really like it!
Good deal!
Timmy - upper respiratory deal knocked me down for a couple days this past week, too... Sickest I've been in a long time. Glad to have the worst of it out of the way.
We hauling anything down for ya?
timmythecopI think I will drink some gin and then go bid on El Caminos to drown my sorrows.
Make sure it's the UK ebay site. Their El Caminos are nicer.
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Yes, I know it's actually Australian.
Holly crap what a car. it just needs a VFR in the bed ....
YoshiHNStimmythecopI think I will drink some gin and then go bid on El Caminos to drown my sorrows.
Make sure it's the UK ebay site. Their El Caminos are nicer.
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Yes, I know it's actually Australian.
Holden makes some sexy ass cars, damnit I want one!!!!!!!!!!
Looked at a 72 Ranchero GT last night.
Check on buddy SEB ......
I ate lunch at El Ranchero and my 3 enchilada platter came from a kitchen that probably hasn't been cleaned since '72...see we really are two side of the same coin :biggrin:
Hey, at least you'll get to ride it when you get back from TMAC.
SEBSPEEDHey, at least you'll get to ride it when you get back from TMAC.
The sarcasm is returning................he's on the mend