yep.. your pilot jets are clogged.
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yep.. your pilot jets are clogged.
can i access them by taking just the air filter housing off?
I would try some STP multipurpose motor treatment. My gen 4 would not start without the choke on and would not idle without the choke on. Although after running some generic carb cleaner I got it to the point where if I got the bike hot, I could give it some throttle and it would not die on me.
I bought that STP stuff last week since it also doubles as a fuel stabilizer and I only expected marginal gains with the idle issue. Well, after a 100 mile ride it is all fixed. Idles just fine. I still need to use the choke to start it but once it is kind of warm it will now idle on its own.
There are several people on this forum that will say cleaners do not fix issues like this or that you have to take apart the carbs, but my experience has proven otherwise. My gas mileage even jumped to almost 50mpg. I was getting 38 tops before I used this stuff to clean out the carbs/jets.
Just dump it in your tank and go for a ride. http://www.stp.com/p...otor-treatment/
You might have to run it through a few tanks. It fixed mine after using 2.5 gallons of fuel.
Edited by squidzilla, 24 September 2014 - 08:09 PM.
you can try the above method of spending $$ on gas additives..
and have a hard time starting your bike, until they do their job.. and it may or may not work..depending on how dirty they are..
or you do as i said.. and DOWNLOAD THE MANUAL 1ST..
and clean the pilot jets.
NO you cant get to them from the top. ..
at a bare minimum of cleaning just the pilot jets and blowing out the other passage ways, require the carbs to come off.
Its a 7.00 cost for the bottle. Mine was pretty bad which is why I picked it up for 1400.00. And it worked. To each his own.
Did you check/replace your plugs by any chance? I must have been tired when I posted earlier, but thats the 1st place I would start. Run cr8 or cr9 ngk. 9 for racing around, 8 for distance without mobbing around or racing.
OK, I don't believe in carb cleaner fixing what should be done properly, BUT on the advice of my local Honda shop tech I put some Gunk brand stuff in my Trophy. I had let it sit too long with untreated gas and it got a pretty big stumble off idle. It did clear it up about 95%. Still no substitute for a proper cleaning though.
Below is a link to an outside forum. I suspect it is not good protocol to link outside, but it is all about Honda V4's. Billy C. is a carb guru who is dedicated to help us V4 Honda guys. He doesn't do any other carbs. He also sells different levels of rebuild kits with detailed instructions. No better guy for this and his prices are designed for us poor folk. He also sells his services/kits on eBay if the link doesn't work without membership. I can put you in communication with him if need be.
Cheers,
Glenn
OK, I don't believe in carb cleaner fixing what should be done properly, BUT on the advice of my local Honda shop tech I put some Gunk brand stuff in my Trophy. I had let it sit too long with untreated gas and it got a pretty big stumble off idle. It did clear it up about 95%. Still no substitute for a proper cleaning though.
Below is a link to an outside forum. I suspect it is not good protocol to link outside, but it is all about Honda V4's. Billy C. is a carb guru who is dedicated to help us V4 Honda guys. He doesn't do any other carbs. He also sells different levels of rebuild kits with detailed instructions. No better guy for this and his prices are designed for us poor folk. He also sells his services/kits on eBay if the link doesn't work without membership. I can put you in communication with him if need be.
Cheers,
Glenn
glen.. he needs his pilots cleaned not a rebuilt kit filled with stuff he doesn't need.
OK, I don't believe in carb cleaner fixing what should be done properly, BUT on the advice of my local Honda shop tech I put some Gunk brand stuff in my Trophy. I had let it sit too long with untreated gas and it got a pretty big stumble off idle. It did clear it up about 95%. Still no substitute for a proper cleaning though.
Below is a link to an outside forum. I suspect it is not good protocol to link outside, but it is all about Honda V4's. Billy C. is a carb guru who is dedicated to help us V4 Honda guys. He doesn't do any other carbs. He also sells different levels of rebuild kits with detailed instructions. No better guy for this and his prices are designed for us poor folk. He also sells his services/kits on eBay if the link doesn't work without membership. I can put you in communication with him if need be.
Cheers,
Glenn
glen.. he needs his pilots cleaned not a rebuilt kit filled with stuff he doesn't need.
Yes, I know that. Maybe I was thinking faster than I could type. Then I digressed.
My Trophy's issue was the pilots, hence my mention of the Gunk carb cleaner - although I do recommend proper cleaning. Still, it worked for me (only 95%, IMO) and may be worth a try.
My info about Billy and the specialized service he gives us Honda V4 owners (and only us) was meant to be viewed by the "masses" in case somebody else among us might want to check out his parts and services.
Cheers,
Glenn
I have the K n L tool and couldn't get the smallest wire in there. A few drops of 'the works' and it opened both of them right up. No more issue
well i lowered the idle to 1000rpms which i had no idea its what it was supposed to be at and it helped a lot. I just did it 2 days ago and so far it starts right up but won't hold idle unless it has a little bit of throttle but it beats the 2-3 minutes of on and off cranking and playing with choke before.
well almost a year after and a 5,000 mile move from Hawaii to North Carolina I have had enough. Bike wouldn't even start once I got to NC so tore into it. Used Zep purple cleaner once we ran a visual test on what it would do to the jets and it worked great. 3 of 4 pilot jets where clogged. 2 of 4 mains where clogged. Thanks for everyones response. It took me 90 minutes from beginning to end.
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