Probably being paranoid , but just wanted to get some opinions - took my bike to work for the first time today, which is 35 miles of highway mixed with some heavier street traffic. Probably first time that the bike got close to 220F repeatedly. I noticed that the upshifts, especially 3rd and to lesser extend 4th, got really loud, especially when using the clutch. I'm using Mobil 1 4T 10-40W motorcycle oil btw. Is that pretty normal/expected?
Shifting When Hot
My dealer put Honda GN4 10w40 in to break in, and my first oil change was the same type and weight of oil at 600 miles. Im thinking of switching to full synthetic at 3600 miles (coming really soon). Maybe Ill try the 10w30 HP4s next for comparison. Mine shifts very very nice and smooth at any temperature except when my foot gets a bit faster than my left hand coming out of 1st gear by accident.
Haven't experienced anything like that on mine, running Honda HP4S 10w30 full synthetic. Haven't burned a drop of oil in ~3300 miles either. You do know 10w30 is recommended, right?
Mine's not burning any oil either and is otherwise fine, but this has me concerned. And as far as 10w40 vs 10w30, I've called around few different Honda dealerships around here, and not a single one uses 10w30 - two use Kawasaki 10w40 dino oil, and two use Honda 10w40. They all say that for Texas heat, 10w40 is better.
I'm going to try to duplicate it this weekend without earplugs and with less traffic so I can play a bit, but I might have to take it in if nobody else is experiencing it.
Its basically a 6th gen motor and 220 degrees is very normal range (even higher), The fan doesn't even engage till 221 degrees on the 6th gen.
Not normal for shifts to hard at that temp.
Go back to dino oil and see if it does it .
Seriously though, if you're seeing (hearing) big differences between clutched and unclutched upshifts, I would want to make sure your clutch lever is properly set.
I rode it to work again this morning, and I heard the same hard shift once when I was being lazy and up shifting at too low rpm into 3rd. Last night my ride back was crappy last 10 miles, with stop and go most of the way, and I was beat, so I might just be imagining things. Nothing like a good early morning ride in light traffic at 60F to put everything in new perspective :) I'll give it few more good rides before I start jumping to conclusions.
As far as temps, I'm not worried about that, I've always known the V4 to run hot. It was just the first time for me since I bought it to be stuck in the heat between cars and nowhere to go :) Hate riding in heavy traffic when it's hot...
Japanese summer heat often makes Texas look like paradise :)
Yeah, I can see that with all that humidity. Although 100F for 70+ days in a row still gets to you down here :)
Honda is very specific regarding molybdenum content in engine lubes, something along the line of "don't use moly content lubes"...not sure whats in Mobil lubes, but having used (flogged) my 6th gen with Hondas HP4 SAE 10W-49 SJ lube, I have recorded next to zero oil consumption and smooth shifting under all engine temperatures from as low as 160F (ambient 43F) to as high as 228F (ambient 105F).
Its pricey, but then so are rebuilds.
Mobil1 4T is a motorcycle specific lube, billed as a "racing" oil.
With that said, I just remembered that ran one oil change of the Mobil1 4T in my CBR about 5 years ago. Shifting was very clunky with that oil in all gears, and I changed it out quite early, maybe after only a few hundred miles, back to Honda synthetic 10W30, which I ran before and ever since in that bike. Now coming up on 36K trouble-free miles.
What we seem to have here is an issue that could be at least partly technique on the part of the OP, combined with what might be the specific characteristics of the oil.