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Aftermarket Pipes For Gen 8

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#1 dogman Thread starter

So far as far as I know the Akrapovic is the only pipe available for the gen 8, so maybe we can post here if peoples become aware of any new ones that become available.

The Akra is not readily available from the usual sources either, and the sewing machine sound of the stock doesn't quite do it...

Thanks in advance.

#2 AB-Oz

the first owner in Oz should ride to Staintune and let them have the bike for a couple of weeks, let them work their magic.

#3 garyr

There is a clip of a "pipewerX" slipon on youtube.

Edited 17 Jun 2014 by garyr
#4 marriedman

I would buy any can for the 5th gen and have a mid pipe bent at an exhaust shop. No need to wait!

#5 dogman Thread starter

There is a clip of a "pipewerX" slipon on youtube.

Interesting, there is no listing on the pipewerx site for this bike so I am starting to think that a Gen 5 slipon will work, especially if the rear support is the strap type.

#6 Dutchy

I would buy any can for the 5th gen and have a mid pipe bent at an exhaust shop. No need to wait!

+1

If is not available "off the shelf"  get creative!

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#8 SHvar

MSRP of $785.95. Was on the phone checking for price and availability when my dealer called to let me know my new VFR800 is there and in the crate, I will pick it up tomorrow.

#9 dogman Thread starter

We are in luck!

Any gen 5 pipe will fit. I just tried an OEM gen 5 pipe and it fits perfectly, right down to the footpeg hanger and the mainstand bump stop.

No need to bend anything

Gen 5 pipe on gen 8

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#10 boOZZIE
Wow that 5G can is long, has any1 just gutted the original 8G can yet?
#11 marriedman
Thanks for testing and clearing that up! That should mean that the 8th gen has a huge selection built on and the 5th gen might have a few new choices soon.

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#12 Dannytb

I would buy any can for the 5th gen and have a mid pipe bent at an exhaust shop. No need to wait!

No need. The mid pipe from the 5G will work. Now to convince Dogman to get a 13" tri-oval from Delkevic. ;)

Edit: I spoke too soon... ;) Edited 20 Jun 2014 by Dannytb
#15 ridered

someone needs to make a high mount that works with the luggage, or an underseat.

#16 Nas

Much better with the Dam exhaust! Still not as good as the under-tail exhaust, not anywhere near...

#17 john2710

It would be nice to hear the sound

#18 wagzhp

So that means the Micron high mount that I have on my 5th gen would fit.  Nice!

#19 choco

Yeah, I still like the under seat, twin Remus or Staintunes, hard to beat for sound and looks.

#20 Switchblade

someone needs to make a high mount that works with the luggage, or an underseat.

+1   gotta  have  it  ...

#21 Dannytb

So that means the Micron high mount that I have on my 5th gen would fit.  Nice!


Don't get too excited. High mount support brackets might not fit the 8G.
#22 marriedman

So that means the Micron high mount that I have on my 5th gen would fit.  Nice!


Don't get too excited. High mount support brackets might not fit the 8G.

True, however it wouldn't be that hard to fab one up. Heck, you may beven be able to do it with off the shelf stuff at a hardware store. Probably have to notch the rear fairing though. I did on my 5th gen.

#23 john2710

Has anyone fitted akrapovic or any aftermarket exhaust yet?

#24 Switchblade

You  can  fit  anything  to  anything,  well  almost .


Can't  wait  to  see  the first  one .

#25 Dannytb
Akra is the factory optional upgrade, so it's available - at least in Oz.
#26 SHvar

Akropovic USA told me the day before I picked my 2014 up that the slip-ons are on order and expected within weeks. In the US there are no options from the dealer as an upgrade on a new cycle for aftermarket exhaust because of our emission laws (includes noise emissions). You can buy them after the fact but not as an option (except for Harley Davidson somehow).

In Europe I believe they were told the Akrapovic slip-ons will be available in July from the dealers.

I had to actually call Akropovic to get a part number and price at the time.

#27 dogman Thread starter

I have the Akra on order but any 5th gen low mount will fit, there are some cheap Delkevics on ebay. The pipewerks that is on Youtube is actually a 5th gen model.

There is a 2bros also which looks nice too.

Its a pisser the Akra is taking so long, but I expect its a good product.....


#29 RDMcD

Has anyone seen this before?  It's intended for the crossrunner but I'm sure that's the same exhaust as the 8th gen. I came across this about a year ago while searching for an underbelly exhaust for a 5th gen. At the time the website listed it at around $1000.

http://www.hpcorse.c.../84/crossrunner

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#30 V4 Rosso
Looks similar to this one:

http://youtu.be/gQk970IZhVU
#31 Switchblade

So that means the Micron high mount that I have on my 5th gen would fit.  Nice!


Don't get too excited. High mount support brackets might not fit the 8G.

True, however it wouldn't be that hard to fab one up. Heck, you may beven be able to do it with off the shelf stuff at a hardware store. Probably have to notch the rear fairing though. I did on my 5th gen.

For  sure  or  someone  here  will  make  a kit  to  do  it  !!


#34 Epyon007

I had Arrow on my Daytona 675 and it was absolutely fantastic!!!  I'd buy from then again in a heart beat.


#36 fatshoutybloke

That looks amazing! Wonder if I can get one in the UK. Aren't they made in Germany?


#37 thor294

underseat exhaust please... so we can see that sexy wheel :P


#38 cjb1019

Well, I just took the plunge and ordered myself an Arrow pro-racing slip on.

No idea if the importer even have a stock in yet, but they should confirm my order and the delivery time tomorrow. Hopefully will have it by the weekend!  :happy:

Will keep you guys posted on how it turns out.


#39 Epyon007
I'm pretty sure you'll be happy with it. I really think that Arrows quality is amazing!
#40 choco

Remus also.
http://www.remusaust...oduct-release-/


That's the one I'd get. Remus and Staintunes are sweet sounding and look great on the Gen 6. The Arrow for the Gen 8 looks pretty good too, styled much like the Remus. I'd like to hear some audio.
#41 dogman Thread starter

Well, I just took the plunge and ordered myself an Arrow pro-racing slip on.

No idea if the importer even have a stock in yet, but they should confirm my order and the delivery time tomorrow. Hopefully will have it by the weekend!  :happy:

Will keep you guys posted on how it turns out.

Yes I will be keen to hear how it is also.

Hopefully it (or any aftermarket pipe ) wont stuff up the fuelling too much.


#42 cjb1019

K, so it turns out I got my dates massively wrong - the Arrow pipe will hopefully be with me next weekend. When it arrives I will attempt some videos.


#44 digitallyhip

someone needs to make a high mount that works with the luggage, or an underseat.

+1   gotta  have  it  ...

+1 more


#48 Epyon007

hmm thats kinda disappointing to me.  It doesn't sound much like a baby V8...  But it is a damn sight better then stock thats for sure!!!


#49 thor294

Much better : [video: https://youtube.com/embed/rRTyGSqetsg?html5=1&fs=1]

Thor294. Remus dyno charts in the video show more than 96hp.

lol 104. the problem with this is, that you gotta have a reference point on the same dyno.  Their dyno could be off.  motorcyclist claims 96hp from the 800. 

Again, it would be great if I find someone who buys a vfr800 from my local honda dealer, and have him dyno it after he breaks it in of course :P lol


#50 SHvar

A recent magazine article I found had the bike at 98.3 hp, to which they commented was the same HP at 700 rpms lower than their last test model (6th gen model) on the same dyno. It was Rider magazine. http://www.ridermaga...-road-test.htm/


#51 house

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

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Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)


#52 dfh

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

No intention to fit panniers to your 8th Gen?


#53 MotoPumps

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

No intention to fit panniers to your 8th Gen?

How are those two things related?  


#54 dogman Thread starter

I wonder if it is the same setup as they sell for the 5th gen.

Looks good.


#55 dfh

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

No intention to fit panniers to your 8th Gen?

How are those two things related?  

Look on the link. All will be revealed...


#56 CornerCarver

someone needs to make a high mount that works with the luggage, or an underseat.


This shouldn't be a riddle or a complex physics equation to solve.

Two solid objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time.

Look to some of the 7th gen exhaust solutions as Honda have determined that saving weight and improving the mass centralization for better handling, braking and mileage is their way forward.

If I were dreaming of an exhaust it would either be dual outlet (front underslung - rear underseat) or single outlet underslung. I love the Ducati Panigale exhaust but it seems that packaging that on the VFR would result in cruiser-like ground clearance issues.

Second choice after Panigale exhaust is current Honda MotoGP exhaust. :-)

I mean, while we are dreaming of high mounts that allow the Honda bags to mount I can dream of those two beauties.

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...
 
http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html
 
[image: attachicon.gif]TwoBros.jpg
 
Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)


Looks as good as any other and the TBR dyno chart shows almost a 5HP gain with no loss of power below Vtec engagement.

Stock went from 95.06 to 99.99...very nice for just a can albeit slightly more than $120/hp
#57 MotoPumps

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

No intention to fit panniers to your 8th Gen?

How are those two things related?  

Look on the link. All will be revealed...

I had already looked at the link and read the instructions.  I am guessing you are going to say that the exhaust won't work with the saddle bags?


#58 dfh

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

No intention to fit panniers to your 8th Gen?

How are those two things related?  

Look on the link. All will be revealed...

I had already looked at the link and read the instructions.  I am guessing you are going to say that the exhaust won't work with the saddle bags?

Hope your employment doesn't hinge on reading documents…. Look at the four pictures, then open the tabs marked "instructions" & "Instructions Saddle Bags"

here is a teaser..[image: 2014-HON-INTERCEPTOR-S1R-SO_bag_side.jpg]


#60 Timgco

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

[image: attachicon.gif]TwoBros.jpg

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

Did you order direct from them?  I'm going to order one up soon.  I figured I would give them a call on Tuesday to see what their eta is and if we have to re-map or just bolt it on and go.    


#61 vfrcapn

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

No intention to fit panniers to your 8th Gen?

How are those two things related?  

Look on the link. All will be revealed...

I had already looked at the link and read the instructions.  I am guessing you are going to say that the exhaust won't work with the saddle bags?

Hope your employment doesn't hinge on reading documents…. Look at the four pictures, then open the tabs marked "instructions" & "Instructions Saddle Bags"

here is a teaser..[image: 2014-HON-INTERCEPTOR-S1R-SO_bag_side.jpg]

Then toss out the instructions and figure out how to make it work, as was done with the 5th gen 15 years ago...


#62 Rush2112
I wonder how many ponies a performance header plus slip-on would unleash. ...
#63 dfh

Then toss out the instructions and figure out how to make it work, as was done with the 5th gen 15 years ago...

Two different systems with different mufflers, hangers & link pipes. Why TwoBros didn't do as you say & figure out how to make it work with & without panniers has me stumped


#64 house

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...

http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html

[image: attachicon.gif]TwoBros.jpg

Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

Did you order direct from them?  I'm going to order one up soon.  I figured I would give them a call on Tuesday to see what their eta is and if we have to re-map or just bolt it on and go.    

They called me Friday (ordered direct.)  They have pipes, but no mid-pipes... he said it should ship to my house in 1.5 to 2 weeks.  Forgot to ask about a re-map... let me know if you find out please!


#65 Timgco

Two Brothers just joined the list of available slip-on systems...
 
http://www.twobros.c...-S1R-SO-14.html
 
[image: attachicon.gif]TwoBros.jpg
 
Just ordered one... we'll see how fast it arrives :)

Did you order direct from them?  I'm going to order one up soon.  I figured I would give them a call on Tuesday to see what their eta is and if we have to re-map or just bolt it on and go.
They called me Friday (ordered direct.)  They have pipes, but no mid-pipes... he said it should ship to my house in 1.5 to 2 weeks.  Forgot to ask about a re-map... let me know if you find out please!

I talked with Greg @2Bros today. He sais these newer bikes should be good without a re-map. I got the same answer from Akra today. I'm waiting for my local dealer to get the 2Bros in. 20% off. If it takes more than two weeks, I'll order direct though.
#66 dogman Thread starter

I wonder if the PC5 from a 6th gen will plug into this bike, ie is the wiring harness similar?


#67 Timgco

I wonder if the PC5 from a 6th gen will plug into this bike, ie is the wiring harness similar?

I have no idea.  I can take a pic of the harness...if I knew where to look.  I'm assuming under one of the seats.  lol 

I am waiting to hear back from Power Commander to hear if/ when they will have something available.  


#69 house

I wonder if the PC5 from a 6th gen will plug into this bike, ie is the wiring harness similar?

I have no idea.  I can take a pic of the harness...if I knew where to look.  I'm assuming under one of the seats.  lol 

I am waiting to hear back from Power Commander to hear if/ when they will have something available.  

I am fairly certain it won't work.  I spoke with someone at PowerCommander weeks ago and they stated that they would have a new model for this bike within 6 months (and that was about a month ago.)  When I raised the tank to replace the filter with a K&N, I didn't see the familiar connectors that you find on the 6th gen.


#70 dogman Thread starter

maybe its CAN bus


#71 Voided76

You should be asking how you can get a rapidbike evo or race on this thing....


#72 cjb1019

Arrow Proracing exhaust arrived earlier this week, fitted it last night and had a little ride around with it on today.

First impressions are good. It's improved the looks a LOT but it's not had a huge effect on the volume, so it's a little bit louder, but not much (with the baffle in - with it out it's a different story). What it has done though is given the bike a deeper, more pleasing tone, which is especially noticeable at tickover and in the low revs - so it sounds less like a sewing machine and more like a V4 should do.

Will post some pics (before/after) and hopefully a video soon


#73 SHvar

I have to think about whether I want to change my exhaust, I dont want it too loud, I enjoy riding at night, and not waking my neighbors up when I come home from work. Ill have to see and hear an akropovic on one first, the Dam slip on looks the best so far, have to hear one of them to.


#74 cjb1019

Ok, so here's a quick couple of pics...

Much improved, no?

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#76 Rush2112

Now your starting to show off that beautiful rear wheel!!  Looks great... how does it sound?


#77 cjb1019

Sounds good. I've been trying to get a friggin' video to link here but it doesn't seem to be working right now... :angry:

Edit: Finally! http://youtu.be/Gf5YlfNyz9g


#78 Rush2112

Sounds good. I've been trying to get a friggin' video to link here but it doesn't seem to be working right now... :angry:

Edit: Finally! http://youtu.be/Gf5YlfNyz9g

I think I'm a fan of without the baffle :goofy:


#79 choco
Lights on in the garage next time? Sounds OK, not like the Remus or Staintune of the 6th Gen.
#80 dogman Thread starter

Sounds good. Make any noticeable difference to the fuelling?


#81 bayarearider
Rush2112, on 05 Aug 2014 - 5:47 PM, said:Rush2112, on 05 Aug 2014 - 5:47 PM, said:
cjb1019, on 05 Aug 2014 - 4:30 PM, said:cjb1019, on 05 Aug 2014 - 4:30 PM, said:

Sounds good. I've been trying to get a friggin' video to link here but it doesn't seem to be working right now... :angry:

Edit: Finally! http://youtu.be/Gf5YlfNyz9g

I think I'm a fan of without the baffle :goofy:

Hello MotoGP, Good Bye Hearing.

Do a 400mi Hi-Rev day and let us know how your Hearing likes it, would ya?

Other than that, it's pretty Bad Ass..sounding.


#82 dfh

Sounds good. I've been trying to get a friggin' video to link here but it doesn't seem to be working right now... :angry:

Edit: Finally! http://youtu.be/Gf5YlfNyz9g

Nice.. those black Viffers are hard to spot at night…. :goofy:


#83 Epyon007

Ok They need to make that Arrow go on the inside of the right passanger peg.  MINT!!!


#84 cjb1019

Sounds good. Make any noticeable difference to the fuelling?

Not that I've particularly noticed. Although it does seem to have given it a bit more punch at the very bottom end - like the stock exhaust was strangling it a bit too much?


#85 Rush2112

TBR sent out an email with a link to the new VFR800 slip-ons... two versions, one with and one without saddle bags.

2014 VFR800 w/ TBR slip-on on dyno

In the email they called it a VFR900... I wish!!!


#86 dfh

TBR sent out an email with a link to the new VFR800 slip-ons... two versions, one with and one without saddle bags.

2014 VFR800 w/ TBR slip-on on dyno

In the email they called it a VFR900... I wish!!!

That TBR slip-on makes the stock can look like a work of art! 

UglyPipe
UglyPipe
What were they thinking!!?!

#87 Rush2112

TBR sent out an email with a link to the new VFR800 slip-ons... two versions, one with and one without saddle bags.

2014 VFR800 w/ TBR slip-on on dyno

In the email they called it a VFR900... I wish!!!

That TBR slip-on makes the stock can look like a work of art! 

That's the pipe for the kit used with saddle bags... it fits under the bag.  There is a much nicer looking muffler for the regular installation without bags... they swap it out in the beginning of the video before the dyno run


#88 Timgco

Ok, so here's a quick couple of pics...

Much improved, no?

Damn that bike looks great in BLACK!   Now I want a second set of fairings and tank in black...and VFR badges.  lol.  


#89 dfh

TBR sent out an email with a link to the new VFR800 slip-ons... two versions, one with and one without saddle bags.

2014 VFR800 w/ TBR slip-on on dyno

In the email they called it a VFR900... I wish!!!

That TBR slip-on makes the stock can look like a work of art! 

That's the pipe for the kit used with saddle bags... it fits under the bag.  There is a much nicer looking muffler for the regular installation without bags... they swap it out in the beginning of the video before the dyno run

Why bother? The Arrows & Dam pipes look better & fit with or without the panniers. Maybe TBR should do a dual pipe system with one each side. Then the pillion can use them as foot boards!


#90 Rectaltronics

For those looking for a bit of extra sound and a few more horses without destroying your hearing and having your neighbors chase you out of the neighborhood with pitchforks and torches, not to mention not having the cops waiting for you with dB meters and night-sticks, the Akropovics may be a good bet.  They appear to carry all the EC, ECE, EPA and CARB approvals and if the pictures are to be believed, really are stamped for type use as meeting 80 dB EPA tests as well.


#92 Rush2112


TBR sent out an email with a link to the new VFR800 slip-ons... two versions, one with and one without saddle bags.
 
2014 VFR800 w/ TBR slip-on on dyno
 
In the email they called it a VFR900... I wish!!!

That TBR slip-on makes the stock can look like a work of art! 
 
 
That's the pipe for the kit used with saddle bags... it fits under the bag.  There is a much nicer looking muffler for the regular installation without bags... they swap it out in the beginning of the video before the dyno run
 
Why bother? The Arrows & Dam pipes look better & fit with or without the panniers. Maybe TBR should do a dual pipe system with one each side. Then the pillion can use them as foot boards!

It is an eyesore without the bags... do the Arrow or Dam have any issues with cooking the bottom of the right bag?
#94 dfh

It is an eyesore without the bags... do the Arrow or Dam have any issues with cooking the bottom of the right bag?

The right bag has an integral heat shield as the stock muffler sits under it. TBR's problem isn't heat, its the combination of the their one-fits-all generic muffler's length & the rakish angle its mounted at physically interfering with the bag. Have a look at cbj2019's photo of the stock & arrow can and compare which the TBR photo. The end cap of the TBR can is at the same height as the bag mounts cast into the pillion footrest hangers, the other two are lower.


#95 vfrcapn

This looks way nicer...  I think it sounds good too in the video clip

That is nice, would look great on a 5th gen too. I like the shorter canisters on the 8th gens, anyone can do a photoshop?


#96 choco
I think if I were going to get an 8th Gen I think I would seriously be looking at the Competition Werkes GP slip on. It looks like a Moto GP pipe, is short so the wheel shows and probably sounds great. Here is a video of one on a 1200 VFR, but it's kind of a lame video, the guy really isn't revving the bike much.

[video: https://youtube.com/embed/_ceuF1IuVfM?html5=1&fs=1]

This pipe in stainless or titanium would be the one I'd look at hard before moving on.
#97 SHvar

The Dam slip-on will be ready in september, they are sending me all of the info about it then.


#98 house

I got tired of waiting on TBR and ordered the Akrapovic pipe as well.... we'll see which one arrives first and I may try both (so I may have a discounted pipe for sale as I am sure they won't return once mounted.)  The race is on....

Looks like the Akrapovic will be here Monday or Tuesday!


#99 Timgco

I talked with Greg at TBR today.  He told me the wrong length carbon came in.  1" shorter than what it was supposed to be.  I asked to build me one anyways and ship it.  Said he could ship next week.  If I don;t have confirmation of shipment by mid day wed, I'll call Akra and get that one coming too.  

VOLUNTEER, I'm excited to here you ordered up the Akra pipe.  


#100 house

I talked with Greg at TBR today.  He told me the wrong length carbon came in.  1" shorter than what it was supposed to be.  I asked to build me one anyways and ship it.  Said he could ship next week.  If I don;t have confirmation of shipment by mid day wed, I'll call Akra and get that one coming too.  

VOLUNTEER, I'm excited to here you ordered up the Akra pipe.  

Tracking says my Akra will be here Monday.... if you want, I can call Greg and tell him to cancel my order.  Maybe they can ship you the can I ordered (He stated Thursday that it should ship this coming week and that all they were waiting on was the mid-pipe.)  Let me know


#101 SHvar

Got an email about the Dam slip on again, the price will be +- 410 euros or $549.35, they are currently closed until the 25th of the month, after they return they will start production and have them ready for the middle of september.


#102 DriverDave

Looks like it might be a tough choice between the Dam and the Akro.  Might need to wait for some good sound clips to compare.


#103 Timgco

I talked with Greg at TBR today.  He told me the wrong length carbon came in.  1" shorter than what it was supposed to be.  I asked to build me one anyways and ship it.  Said he could ship next week.  If I don;t have confirmation of shipment by mid day wed, I'll call Akra and get that one coming too.  

VOLUNTEER, I'm excited to here you ordered up the Akra pipe.  

Tracking says my Akra will be here Monday.... if you want, I can call Greg and tell him to cancel my order.  Maybe they can ship you the can I ordered (He stated Thursday that it should ship this coming week and that all they were waiting on was the mid-pipe.)  Let me know

If you don't want yours, I'm cool with that.  I'm wondering if your 2B pipe was held up for the same reason mine was.    


#104 house

I talked with Greg at TBR today.  He told me the wrong length carbon came in.  1" shorter than what it was supposed to be.  I asked to build me one anyways and ship it.  Said he could ship next week.  If I don;t have confirmation of shipment by mid day wed, I'll call Akra and get that one coming too.  

VOLUNTEER, I'm excited to here you ordered up the Akra pipe.  

Tracking says my Akra will be here Monday.... if you want, I can call Greg and tell him to cancel my order.  Maybe they can ship you the can I ordered (He stated Thursday that it should ship this coming week and that all they were waiting on was the mid-pipe.)  Let me know

If you don't want yours, I'm cool with that.  I'm wondering if your 2B pipe was held up for the same reason mine was.    

I called and canceled, Dan S. asked that you call in and he will ship you the pipe I had reserved.

Akrapovic happiness!

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#105 house

I love how light the Akrapovic feels in comparison to the stock can and am digging the sound as well.  (I do like my Leo's a bit better, but the Akra is sweet as well!)  Check out the installed can...

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OOPS, forgot the video

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#106 polbit

Hehe, you beat m to it, but I had to go for a ride after installing it...

Overall, I guess I was expecting a bit more change in sound. It's got a good rumble at low revs, but can't notice much difference after 7k rpm. Definitely much lighter, and looks great on the bike!

And quick vid... http://youtu.be/Q0suHtxLFPc

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#107 VFR4Lee

Sounds good. At that price I guess it's good the bike doesn't have a dual exhaust.  :cool:  


#108 Timgco

I love how light the Akrapovic feels in comparison to the stock can and am digging the sound as well.  (I do like my Leo's a bit better, but the Akra is sweet as well!)  Check out the installed can...

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OOPS, forgot the video

http://youtu.be/lBJHwR552vg

OUTSTANDING!


Hehe, you beat m to it, but I had to go for a ride after installing it...

Overall, I guess I was expecting a bit more change in sound. It's got a good rumble at low revs, but can't notice much difference after 7k rpm. Definitely much lighter, and looks great on the bike!

And quick vid... http://youtu.be/Q0suHtxLFPc

I can't wait now!  lol


#109 Timgco

Well, the Two Bros pipe showed up today.  Woohoo.  Than I went to install it.  Boohoo MF'r!  lol.  

The mid pipe is wrong.  The canister and mid pipe "spring anchors" do not line up.  The pipe is horizontal also.  The part # on the box shows correct (as in I don;t have the saddle bags).  

So, the mid pipe is wrong for sure.  What I'm not sure on is if the pipes are different between saddle bags or no saddle bags.  Guess I get to call 2Bros in the am.  

Quality control is important when bringing a new product to the market.  Not so much on this order. :491:    

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#110 polbit

Wow, that sucks man... 


#111 house

Dan told me  a few times the were waiting on mid-pipes.... wonder if they got mixed up?


#112 Timgco

Dan told me  a few times the were waiting on mid-pipes.... wonder if they got mixed up?

After going back and looking at their You Tube vid, I have the mid pipe for the saddle bags.  They packaged the wrong one.    

ADD 08/21:  I talked with Greg at 2Bros this morning.  With the pics I provided, they determined the part # was correct for my exhaust canister.  The number stamped into the mid pipe was correct, but was stamped onto the wrong one.  (at least that's what I got out of the conversation).  

I hope to have the correct mid pipe on Friday as they were sending it out NDA.  I guess I'll see if someone packed the correct the pipe this time around...and shipped NDA as promised.  


#113 Shinigami
That Akra sounds great and looks even better. I don't hate the OEM but this strikes me as a must-have upgrade.
#114 MotoPumps

I am holding out for the Staintune.  I had one on my '92 and '96.  Absolutely love the sound and unlike the V&H on the '98, it won't ever need repacking.

They have a note on their site  http://staintune.com.au that they are working on it and will offer 10% discount to anyone who contacts them pre-production.

http://staintune.com...s/tagged/vfr800

It sounds like the V&H from my '98 may fit without the bags...   Should be picking the bike up this weekend.

Rob


#115 house

Well dang, looks like the bolt that holds the baffle in the Arkapovic is spot welded in place.... why in the world would they do that?  Maybe it's legal to remove in other parts of the world and not in the US?  Should I take it to a bike shop and have the spot weld removed, or just wait for someone else (like the Staintune mentioned above ^^^^^ ) to come out with a new can I like?  I like the Arka, but it isn't much louder than the stock with the baffle in.  Don't know much about this kind of thing, so looking for advice.  Thanks


#116 dogman Thread starter

I am sure I read elsewhere that the spot weld breaks easily if you force the bolt.

It is a homolgated pipe and it is welded for legal reasons re complience (not that that worries us :) )

Bit of a joke really, the dyno charts are with the baffle out.


#117 Rectaltronics

Are the dyno charts really without the baffle?!  Where did you read/see that?

The baffle is welded in place for compliance with US federal regulations which prohibit removable and even adjustable baffles (i.e. SuperTrapp).  Exhausts like that will always carry labeling which indicate they are for race use only.

It is worth noting that as far as I know the Akropovic is labeled as approved for street use and won't leave you subject to the whimsy of the noise cops in cities and towns where they've passed laws requiring the correct markings.

That it's not much louder than stock is also why it is legally able to wear that marking.

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#118 house

It didn't take much to break the nut loose holding the baffle in, but man, we can't seem to get it out of there?  I looked at the schematic and it definitely has a curved pipe holding it in place.  Mike from Traxxion and I tried for about 20 minutes to no avail.  Any ideas?

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oops, I missed the part where you said it was welded in place.  Hmmmm.... wonder why my Leos have removable baffels and the Akra doesn't?  I took the opportunity to run the bike without any exhaust for a few seconds... man it sounded good (but a little loud for my taste.)

Could a shop cut the baffle out?  Could I buy a pipe overseas and have it shipped in?


#119 Rectaltronics
Hmmmm.... wonder why my Leos have removable baffels and the Akra doesn't?

The Akrapovics have EPA type approval for street use and the Leo Vince stuff doesn't.

If Leo Vince sold stuff that claimed to be US EPA type approved and had removable baffles they could be fined to the tune of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for violation of the Noise Control Act.


#120 MotoPumps

Stuff is starting to show up with regularity now.  This is a Delkevic stainless can, 14" long.  Looks like the angle is right to fit with the bags.  $169 on eBay.

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#121 Like This

I looked through all these posts. IMHO the Arrow Pro-Racing with the SS tip is by far the best looking one. It really makes the wheel pop and just makes the whole bike look a lot better. It's so minimalistic, sleek, and streamlined looking. I think the gradual increase in diameter is the key to it's look. Most of the other ones look like the typical big can stuck on the end of a pipe. Of course it's all very subjective, but that's the one I'd drop my money on.

 
Agree, and yet this bike as much or more than any other VFR, is screaming for a left exit pipe.
 
WTH   find  another  dealer !
 
Peanut butter and jelly.

WTH....I like eggs.
#122 NZCam

Who's running the Two Brothers S1R? I'd love to get your thoughts on it before I fork out the sizeable shipping costs to bring one to Australia.


#123 Grum
Hi Mattie660. Glad you liked the pics and post. I have done a lot more tripping around with the panniers on and have no issues with hot exhaust gasses or the proximity of the pipe to the panniers. Enjoy your Arrow Pro when you get it.
#124 Blesk
Check THESE out:
http://www.ixrace.net

The z7 is drool worthy!!!!!

They're not available for the VFR ...yet. I'm corresponding with the manufacturer. There's a youtube video of a set on a vfr too. Gotta do a little more research.
#125 fatshoutybloke

The Z7 sounds pretty poor in the video (see page 16 of this thread) but if as you say it's not available for the VFR yet it may be from a different model which may explain it. I prefer the look of the X-Pure myself.


#126 AndyP

I recently installed the Ixil LX3 in black and it sounds great. Not as loud as I thought but still sounds good. 


#127 vlj1216

I recently installed the Ixil LX3 in black and it sounds great. Not as loud as I thought but still sounds good. 

That's my favorite so far, clears up the view of the wheel the best. Does it have to hang with the passenger foot bracket or can the rear foot rests be completely removed like the 6th gen to totally clean up the rear.

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#128 SHvar

Another option for those who want a shorter inexpensive option. They have no listing for the VFR but they sell universal models, in the order you specify the outer diameter of the pipe that it will be mounted to. http://coffmansexhau...fy-in-purchase/ .


#129 CJMajesty
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#130 AndyP

Pic of LX3


Sorry its a little dirty but wanted to get up soon. How do you imbed the pic in the post? 

Thanks. 

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#131 01ragtop

Pic of LX3

Sorry its a little dirty but wanted to get up soon. How do you imbed the pic in the post? 
Thanks.


Any chance you have a video coming? I would love to hear that pipe, as I am considering going this route.

Also, I noticed that L3XB looks shorter than the L3X. Is that the case?
#132 AndyP

Pic of LX3

Sorry its a little dirty but wanted to get up soon. How do you imbed the pic in the post? 
Thanks.


Any chance you have a video coming? I would love to hear that pipe, as I am considering going this route.

Also, I noticed that L3XB looks shorter than the L3X. Is that the case?

I can get send a video if somebody can tell me how. I am not sure how to imbed it into this forum. From my understanding they are the same. I am not sure why it is listed twice on their website. 

Thanks. 


#133 01ragtop

Pic of LX3

Sorry its a little dirty but wanted to get up soon. How do you imbed the pic in the post? 
Thanks.


Any chance you have a video coming? I would love to hear that pipe, as I am considering going this route.

Also, I noticed that L3XB looks shorter than the L3X. Is that the case?
I can get send a video if somebody can tell me how. I am not sure how to imbed it into this forum. From my understanding they are the same. I am not sure why it is listed twice on their website. 
Thanks.

Easiest way to embed video is upload to YouTube and post the link from the address bar into the body of the reply.
#134 Mattie660

It was not the idea to get an aftermarket pipe, because the original looked ok. It was just the sound was a bit of a let down - you know people looking at you when you get on your bike, and maybe in anticipation of some wonderful Ducati-esque sound, and what do they get ? a bit of a let down really. Ok when the thing is on the move and into the revs a bit, it sounds ok.

So ordered this Arrow, with a bit of a bend in it to keep the gases of the luggage.

That original mesh heat resistant tape stuff was, er, in the way, so got left behind ! I am sure it will be fine like that !

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#135 vinjah

Pic of LX3

Sorry its a little dirty but wanted to get up soon. How do you imbed the pic in the post? 
Thanks.


Any chance you have a video coming? I would love to hear that pipe, as I am considering going this route.

Also, I noticed that L3XB looks shorter than the L3X. Is that the case?
I can get send a video if somebody can tell me how. I am not sure how to imbed it into this forum. From my understanding they are the same. I am not sure why it is listed twice on their website. 
Thanks.

Easiest way to embed video is upload to YouTube and post the link from the address bar into the body of the reply.

I agree, most straightforward way to post video is as mentioned above, post to YouTube.

I too am interested in the sound of the L3X on the VFR!


#136 CJMajesty

Think anybody will make a mid pipe, or a header for the RC79.


#138 windyrun

Anyone know the weight of the stock exhaust? I'm trying to figure out how much weight can be saved by using different slip-ons; Akropovich or Dam leading contenders along with two brothers (no bags planned).

Also curious what the weight of the center stand is.

THX


#139 Rectaltronics

Center stand, no exact number, but only a few pounds from what I've read.  Maybe 4 to 5 including hardware?

No idea about the weight of the stock can.  But I believe you can count on about another 5 lbs for the Akro slip-on.

Honestly I don't know if you're gonna really feel the difference losing 10 lbs that's carried down low anyway.  But have at it!

The nice thing about the Akro is you maintain EPA compliance.  And it looks like it does a nicer job of further evening out the VTEC dip too.


#140 windyrun

Thanks for the input and good point about down low weight. I agree I like the Akro best all around. The DAM looks pretty nice though especially in that all matte black 


#143 fatshoutybloke

Latest offering from Germany on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=p2056016.l4276

Very interesting...

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#144 vlj1216
Step in the right direction. Kinda undertail and completely showing the wheel. Now just a bracket of some sort to go to the tail and then the rear pegs can be removed, really cleaning up the rear. Or shoot...a bracket that mounts where the rear pegs mount...man I wish I could fab. [image: emoji373.png]
#145 Shinigami

The Akrapovic looks very much at home on the VFR.  Some of these other offerings, not so much.


#146 Jochem

Has anyone ever seen that rear center wheel cap before? With the VFR logo on it?


#147 fatshoutybloke

Not for the new bike but when I bought my '05 a previous owner had fitted one. From the same company, Thurn Motorsport in Germany.

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#148 gilbmw

looks and performs as if it was made for it...............................

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#149 Rectaltronics

The Akrapovic looks very much at home on the VFR.

looks and performs as if it was made for it...............................

 
Well, I'd certainly hope so, considering that in some countries that Akro can is a Honda specified and Honda supplied aftermarket offering.
 
The Akro can is supposed to do a nice job of smoothing out the VTEC dip a bit more while gaining a little power in all the places you'd want it, and knocking off some weight in the process, thus winning some very valuable points in the bench races.
 
That can also has the benefit of being (barely - haha) within federal noise spec here in the 'States, or at least so claims Akrapovič, and wears the EPA label to say so, which is nice in places like Kalifornia and Denver where that label is the law of the land.
 
Generally speaking Akrapovič has been known for a long time for producing exhaust systems that give you power without robbing it from elsewhere and not making you an enemy of the state (or your neighbors).


#151 duccmann
Best I've seen so far...looks great
#152 windyrun

Was there a poll on which of the major pipes was "your" favorite? If not, might be a good idea to start one. My favorite is the matte black DAM slip on for looks and the 2Brothers for sound ;)


#153 mayoisthedevil

I received my IXIL Hyperlow today. Overall I'm happy with it. The sound with the Db killers out is vast improvement over stock. I did have a little trouble removing one Db Killer. The fit was a little too tight and required the assistance of vice grips. The other Db killer fell right out after removing the set screw. 

This setup clears the factory panniers with ease. Even though the exhaust is aimed at the underside of the pannier, it doesn't transfer any heat to the bags. 

http://store-qb658ee...5/#.VgOJLMtVhBc

I'll try and get a video up in the next day or two. 

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#154 duccmann
Very sharp looking pipes, bet it sounds great..oh an love the white pearl
#156 vfr350

that white is sweet looking bike. can you flip the silver tips of that slipon so the longer is on top?


#157 duccmann
Exactly what I was woundering vfr350...
Wonder how much heat that case can handle?
#158 vfr350

I didnt realize the proximity to the bag could be an issue till you pointed that out.


#159 mello dude

I received my IXIL Hyperlow today. Overall I'm happy with it. The sound with the Db killers out is vast improvement over stock. I did have a little trouble removing one Db Killer. The fit was a little too tight and required the assistance of vice grips. The other Db killer fell right out after removing the set screw. 

This setup clears the factory panniers with ease. Even though the exhaust is aimed at the underside of the pannier, it doesn't transfer any heat to the bags. 

http://store-qb658ee...5/#.VgOJLMtVhBc

I'll try and get a video up in the next day or two. 

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Holy shit! I want to put that on my 5th gen! I like!  :fing02:


#160 mayoisthedevil
that white is sweet looking bike. can you flip the silver tips of that slipon so the longer is on top?

I suppose it's possible with a little work. The tips are a separate piece, but they're attached with rivets. You'd need to drill out the rivets and reattach them somehow. Also, the inside of the pipe is a different length as well. The shorter tip should cover up the inner bit, but it would be very close to showing. 

I've ridden a few hundred miles with the new pipes, and there's no sign of trouble with the bags. The exhaust side bag has a large heatshield under it, but given the clearance I doubt there'd be an issue without it. The stock pipe actually comes closer to the bag, though the gasses are not aimed at it. 

I think the next step is a fender eliminator for those bagless days. 


#161 vfr350

Now i think the only reason i even brought it up is because of the silver color, not so much the angle. if the tip matched the wheel color or was just solid black i never would have noticed it, but man i like that white bike.


#163 NZCam

Grab a tail-tidy (fender eliminator) quick, I'm down to the last 6 from the production batch, with no plans to do another run.

I think the next step is a fender eliminator for those bagless days. 


#165 dogman Thread starter

That does look good. How loud is it with the baffles out?


#166 NZCam

Wow... you just scared the hell out of me! That is my bike, I totally forgot that I posted those pics to reddit.  Glad you like it, I love the exhaust.

Whereabouts in Aus are you, Mansonitefirefox? I'm really curious to see (hear) what those IXIL pipes sound like in the flesh. You-tube clips just never do a pipe justice.

Cheers - C.


#167 jimpanzer07

:biggrin:  Already got the two bros slip on but does anybody make a header that eliminates the cat? I know I will probably need a power commander and dyno tuning but am willing to go that rout to get a bit more power with less weight.


#168 dogman Thread starter

:biggrin:  Already got the two bros slip on but does anybody make a header that eliminates the cat? I know I will probably need a power commander and dyno tuning but am willing to go that rout to get a bit more power with less weight.

Not yet. The Motad headers from a 6th gen would fit BUT no good because you wouldn't be able to fit the front radiator on. The 8th gen front headers are spread wider than the 6th gens but otherwise the geometry is the same.

Honestly in my opinion it really isn't worth it.

When I had my 6th gen I experimented a lot, firstly by removing the cat from the OEM headers, then going all out and fitting motads, PC5 etc etc and in each case the gains were marginal in relation to the amount of work and cost involved.

However my 6th gens fuelling was very bad before the changes and really good afterwards, so from that perspective it was worth it.

My gen 8 fuelling is perfect out of the box with the Akrapovic on it, and my philosophy now is if it aint broke dont fix it.


#169 mansonitefirefox

That does look good. How loud is it with the baffles out?

Neighbours complained 4 hours after I took the baffles out, but really it's not that loud, but much louder than the akro or arrow.

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Wow... you just scared the hell out of me! That is my bike, I totally forgot that I posted those pics to reddit.  Glad you like it, I love the exhaust.
 

 
Whereabouts in Aus are you, Mansonitefirefox? I'm really curious to see (hear) what those IXIL pipes sound like in the flesh. You-tube clips just never do a pipe justice.

Cheers - C.
Perth. Happy to show it to you if you are in WA.

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#170 CandyRedRC46

:biggrin:  Already got the two bros slip on but does anybody make a header that eliminates the cat? I know I will probably need a power commander and dyno tuning but am willing to go that rout to get a bit more power with less weight.

Not yet. The Motad headers from a 6th gen would fit BUT no good because you wouldn't be able to fit the front radiator on. The 8th gen front headers are spread wider than the 6th gens but otherwise the geometry is the same.

Honestly in my opinion it really isn't worth it.

When I had my 6th gen I experimented a lot, firstly by removing the cat from the OEM headers, then going all out and fitting motads, PC5 etc etc and in each case the gains were marginal in relation to the amount of work and cost involved.

However my 6th gens fuelling was very bad before the changes and really good afterwards, so from that perspective it was worth it.

My gen 8 fuelling is perfect out of the box with the Akrapovic on it, and my philosophy now is if it aint broke dont fix it.

Fitting a Motad header isn't going all out, it is just a stock 98/99 header reproduction. I had one on my 2007 for a few years. It was lighter and a little louder, but thats about it. There was no power gain. Then I finally found an old Two Brother's race header/Full system. The Two Brother's Race header lost a little below 3000 Rpms, but made HUGE gains above 7000 RPMs. 


#171 MrGrumpy83

So I read through every single page of this thread, googled for hours and narrowed the list of exhausts that I deemed acceptable down to three. My criteria were:

- not obnoxiously loud

- Looked good and showed off as much of the rear wheel as possible

- Worked with Panniers

The options were the Arrow Proracing system, the DAM, and the SC-Project conic. In the end, the SC-Project won out. This is a different model of the SC-Project to one that was showcased in this thread: http://motoroar.com....-vfr-800-f.html

I've ordered one (which has to be built and shipped from Italy). I'm expecting it sometime around Christmas.

When it arrives I'll create some videos (with good audio) for comparison.


#172 Shinigami
Where I live, cops have been cracking down on bikes with excessive noise in the canyons. (Dozens of straight-pipe Harleys have been busted this season locally).

I have had no problem with my Akrapovic, which I run without the baffle. I did have to point out the lasered certification on the inboard surface of the can to the cop who checked, because he had been trained to believe ANY non-factory can is illegal. Bad training. But the bike passed his (questionable) inspection. I say questionable because I was stopped with engine off at the time he rolled up on me.

My fueling is perfect with the Akrapovic, the sound is great, and it looks good to me. No need to tempt a ticket with a smaller volume, louder can.
#173 Rectaltronics

Where I live, cops have been cracking down on bikes with excessive noise in the canyons. (Dozens of straight-pipe Harleys have been busted this season locally).

I have had no problem with my Akrapovic, which I run without the baffle. I did have to point out the lasered certification on the inboard surface of the can to the cop who checked, because he had been trained to believe ANY non-factory can is illegal. Bad training. But the bike passed his (questionable) inspection. I say questionable because I was stopped with engine off at the time he rolled up on me.

My fueling is perfect with the Akrapovic, the sound is great, and it looks good to me. No need to tempt a ticket with a smaller volume, louder can.

Colorado?  Or California?

By and large, the overwhelming majority of aftermarket cans are indeed illegal.  The training isn't quite as bad as you think.

As for questionable inspections, your Akrapovič no longer conforms to its certification after the baffle has been removed, and depending on where you are most likely also fails to comply with state law and some city laws just as much as those straight-pipe -equipped Hardleys.  So frankly, if there was any bad training, it was the officer's failure to check for a baffle that led to you getting away with the Akrapovič in its current state.

I've seen much worse training from cops - even the NYPD's infamous HWY motorcycle cops - here in NYC.  I had one genius from HWY point at the OEM can on my 4th gen and say "nice aftermarket pipe there" in a lame attempt to get me to confess to something because he hadn't the vaguest clue what he was looking at.  What a maroon...  Oh yeah, when I confronted the genius his excuse was "well I don't know $#!+ about jap bikes."  Nice language from New York City's Finest.


#174 MrGrumpy83

No need to tempt a ticket with a smaller volume, louder can.

The thing I liked about the SC-Project is that it's street legal in Europe (with the baffle in)... I'm not certain what the specs are for them here in Australia and if it's compliant, but being compliant somewhere has got to at least be an indication that it's not overly loud ;)


#175 dogman Thread starter

I have to agree with you Grumpy, that is a very nice looking pipe.


#176 Grum
Hi All.
 
I am selling my Arrow Pro Racing exhaust ( see more pictures on Page 25 of this thread) I have three sets of exhausts  so one has to go. The Arrow is carbon tipped has had very little use and are in absolutely perfect condition ( no scratches, marks, dents), they are highly polished Nickel/Chrome. They are compatible with the Honda panniers. It took me 5 weeks the get them and cost me $834AU. Asking $550AU hopefully to someone in Australia or overseas if they are happy to organise shipping. If you are local I will happily fit them to your bike if needed. Email me if interested grumsmith@hotmail.com
 
Cheers.
Grum

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#177 Shinigami

Where I live, cops have been cracking down on bikes with excessive noise in the canyons. (Dozens of straight-pipe Harleys have been busted this season locally).

I have had no problem with my Akrapovic, which I run without the baffle. I did have to point out the lasered certification on the inboard surface of the can to the cop who checked, because he had been trained to believe ANY non-factory can is illegal. Bad training. But the bike passed his (questionable) inspection. I say questionable because I was stopped with engine off at the time he rolled up on me.

My fueling is perfect with the Akrapovic, the sound is great, and it looks good to me. No need to tempt a ticket with a smaller volume, louder can.

 
Colorado?  Or California?
 
By and large, the overwhelming majority of aftermarket cans are indeed illegal.  The training isn't quite as bad as you think.
 
As for questionable inspections, your Akrapovič no longer conforms to its certification after the baffle has been removed, and depending on where you are most likely also fails to comply with state law and some city laws just as much as those straight-pipe -equipped Hardleys.  So frankly, if there was any bad training, it was the officer's failure to check for a baffle that led to you getting away with the Akrapovič in its current state.
 
I've seen much worse training from cops - even the NYPD's infamous HWY motorcycle cops - here in NYC.  I had one genius from HWY point at the OEM can on my 4th gen and say "nice aftermarket pipe there" in a lame attempt to get me to confess to something because he hadn't the vaguest clue what he was looking at.  What a maroon...  Oh yeah, when I confronted the genius his excuse was "well I don't know $#!+ about jap bikes."  Nice language from New York City's Finest.

It passed the sound meter test. Not sure there's anything else to say.
#178 Rectaltronics

It passed the sound meter test. Not sure there's anything else to say.

Administered by the same folks who thought all aftermarket cans were illegal.  :laugh:

FYI, NRS 484D.415 requires all vehicles to have mufflers, and "muffler" is defined as a device with baffles.

Have fun!


#179 dogman Thread starter

Hi All.

I am selling my Arrow Pro Racing exhaust ( see more pictures on Page 25 of this thread) I have three sets of exhausts  so one has to go. The Arrow is carbon tipped has had very little use and are in absolutely perfect condition ( no scratches, marks, dents), they are highly polished Nickel/Chrome. They are compatible with the Honda panniers. It took me 5 weeks the get them and cost me $834AU. Asking $600AU hopefully to someone in Australia or overseas if they are happy to organise shipping. If you are local I will happily fit them to your bike if needed. Email me if interested grumsmith@hotmail.com

Cheers.

Grum

So what pipe are you using now then Grum?


#180 MADMICK

Hey Grum out of the three exhuasts you have which did you find improved the power, if any, and which sounded the best? Cheers MADMICK.


#181 Grum
Hi Dogman and Madmick.
 
Gone to the ixil L3X Black and love it, no real difference in sound between it and the Arrow but the ixil  really looks the part, more modern, aggressive and shorter in length. Madmick as for power I can't really tell the difference between all three, perhaps its just my riding style! and sound wise I would probably be splitting hairs between the Arrow and the ixil, but if I had to chose I'd go with the ixil.
 
Cheers.
Grum. 
#182 NZCam

Hi Dogman and Madmick.
 
Gone to the ixil L3X Black and love it, no real difference in sound between it and the Arrow but the ixil  really looks the part, more modern, aggressive and shorter in length. Madmick as for power I can't really tell the difference between all three, perhaps its just my riding style! and sound wise I would probably be splitting hairs between the Arrow and the ixil, but if I had to chose I'd go with the ixil.
 
Cheers.
Grum. 

Grum, would you be up for a ride one weekend? I'd love to hear first-hand what the IXIL sounds like. Plus I've yet to find another 8th-Gen rider to come out with the missus and I;- I still don't know what the bike looks like in motion (too busy doing my own looking deep into the corners around Kinglake/St.Andrews!)

Cheers - Cam.


#183 Grum

Hi Dogman and Madmick.
 
Gone to the ixil L3X Black and love it, no real difference in sound between it and the Arrow but the ixil  really looks the part, more modern, aggressive and shorter in length. Madmick as for power I can't really tell the difference between all three, perhaps its just my riding style! and sound wise I would probably be splitting hairs between the Arrow and the ixil, but if I had to chose I'd go with the ixil.
 
Cheers.
Grum.

 
Grum, would you be up for a ride one weekend? I'd love to hear first-hand what the IXIL sounds like. Plus I've yet to find another 8th-Gen rider to come out with the missus and I;- I still don't know what the bike looks like in motion (too busy doing my own looking deep into the corners around Kinglake/St.Andrews!)
Cheers - Cam.

Hi Cam.
No problems for a ride. I am retired so have week days free as well. Can you send me an email with phone contact and we could arrange something.
Cheers.
Grum.
#184 vlj1216
Question about the iXiL, can it be mounted without the passenger peg/bracket? Since its so short it looks like it'd be sturdy enough without it and that would clean up the rear even more...for those that ride solo of course.
#185 Grum

Question about the iXiL, can it be mounted without the passenger peg/bracket? Since its so short it looks like it'd be sturdy enough without it and that would clean up the rear even more...for those that ride solo of course.


In my opinion absolutely NOT, only supporting the exhaust via the clamp onto the cat converter would be very risky. Without the support at the other end at the foot peg I'd reckon some bumpy roads would have the thing snap off.

Cheers Grum


#186 ShadowJP88

Anyone ever think to try fitting an Mv-Augusta 675/800 triple exhaust?
That would give a really nice look to the vfr! 


#188 timm

So I read through every single page of this thread, googled for hours and narrowed the list of exhausts that I deemed acceptable down to three. My criteria were:

- not obnoxiously loud

- Looked good and showed off as much of the rear wheel as possible

- Worked with Panniers

The options were the Arrow Proracing system, the DAM, and the SC-Project conic. In the end, the SC-Project won out. This is a different model of the SC-Project to one that was showcased in this thread: http://motoroar.com....-vfr-800-f.html

I've ordered one (which has to be built and shipped from Italy). I'm expecting it sometime around Christmas.

When it arrives I'll create some videos (with good audio) for comparison.

Of all alternatives there is, this one really appealed to me! Makes the bike really good looking. I am very near the "add to basket" button. :wub:

Though I can't find anything about fitting with panniers. This is a must! Where did you read this?

(By the judging of photos, it seem to fit with the standard panniers, but I want/need that confirmed...)


#190 fatshoutybloke

If I was going Boosa hunting I probably wouldn't go armed with a VFR!  :biggrin:


#191 MrGrumpy83

So I read through every single page of this thread, googled for hours and narrowed the list of exhausts that I deemed acceptable down to three. My criteria were:

- not obnoxiously loud

- Looked good and showed off as much of the rear wheel as possible

- Worked with Panniers

The options were the Arrow Proracing system, the DAM, and the SC-Project conic. In the end, the SC-Project won out. This is a different model of the SC-Project to one that was showcased in this thread: http://motoroar.com....-vfr-800-f.html

I've ordered one (which has to be built and shipped from Italy). I'm expecting it sometime around Christmas.

When it arrives I'll create some videos (with good audio) for comparison.

Of all alternatives there is, this one really appealed to me! Makes the bike really good looking. I am very near the "add to basket" button. :wub:

Though I can't find anything about fitting with panniers. This is a must! Where did you read this?

(By the judging of photos, it seem to fit with the standard panniers, but I want/need that confirmed...)

It was confirmed in writing by the AU reseller that it was fine with standard panniers. I would check with your local reseller or SC-Project directly though, for peace of mind, just in case the AU guy has it wrong (I'm certainly hoping that's not the case!)


#192 timm

So I read through every single page of this thread, googled for hours and narrowed the list of exhausts that I deemed acceptable down to three. My criteria were:

- not obnoxiously loud

- Looked good and showed off as much of the rear wheel as possible

- Worked with Panniers

The options were the Arrow Proracing system, the DAM, and the SC-Project conic. In the end, the SC-Project won out. This is a different model of the SC-Project to one that was showcased in this thread: http://motoroar.com....-vfr-800-f.html

I've ordered one (which has to be built and shipped from Italy). I'm expecting it sometime around Christmas.

When it arrives I'll create some videos (with good audio) for comparison.

Of all alternatives there is, this one really appealed to me! Makes the bike really good looking. I am very near the "add to basket" button. :wub:

Though I can't find anything about fitting with panniers. This is a must! Where did you read this?

(By the judging of photos, it seem to fit with the standard panniers, but I want/need that confirmed...)

It was confirmed in writing by the AU reseller that it was fine with standard panniers. I would check with your local reseller or SC-Project directly though, for peace of mind, just in case the AU guy has it wrong (I'm certainly hoping that's not the case!)

Thanks Grumpy. I acctually did so but did not get any reply. I guess I ended up in the spam-box. I resent the question and got the following reassuring reply:

"Dear customer, yes of course don’t worry.

Our product fit properly also with bags.

Regards

SC Project"

 So Christmas present to myself is solved, then.  :happy:


#193 MrGrumpy83

Thanks Grumpy. I acctually did so but did not get any reply. I guess I ended up in the spam-box. I resent the question and got the following reassuring reply:

"Dear customer, yes of course don’t worry.

Our product fit properly also with bags.

Regards

SC Project"

 So Christmas present to myself is solved, then.  :happy:

Great news - happy early Christmas to you!


#194 fatshoutybloke

New can is on with no problems, really easy job. Looks good, sounds good, weighs a lot less. I weighed the Scorpion with link pipe at 1.99 kg before I put it on and the OE can at 4.96 kg after removal, I work that out at 4lb 6oz compared to 10 lb 14oz. (I think, words not numbers were always my thing!)

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#195 CandyRedRC46

6 and a half pounds weight reduction. Not bad, every pound counts, but nothing like removing the 28 pound boat anchor slipon of the 6th gen lol.


#197 01ragtop

New can is on with no problems, really easy job. Looks good, sounds good, weighs a lot less. I weighed the Scorpion with link pipe at 1.99 kg before I put it on and the OE can at 4.96 kg after removal, I work that out at 4lb 6oz compared to 10 lb 14oz. (I think, words not numbers were always my thing!)


Looks like a Serket Taper. All I see on their website is the Parallel. Do you have video? Looks really nice. How does it sound?
#198 fatshoutybloke

It is a Taper, bought it on eBay. Yes, they don't have it on the website (?) but it fits perfectly so the link pipe at least is obviously right. Sounds great, not much louder than stock with the db killer in but a much deeper note. I work odd hours and have nice neighbours so baffle out is not a long-term option! Will see what I can do about video at the weekend.


#199 MrGrumpy83

So the SC Project exhaust finally arrived. I was so excited I nearly hyperventilated ;)
 
Fitted it last night. It's slightly louder than stock with the baffle in but has a much deeper note. It's MUCH louder without. I haven't ridden with it out yet but I will on the weekend - for now I've left it in because I like my neighbours.
 
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And here's a comparison video - stock vs baffle vs no baffle. I recorded this with professional microphones and recording equipment because I wanted to give a decent sense for how it sounded.[video: https://youtube.com/embed/3dM4S4zCtMw?html5=1&fs=1]


#200 windyrun

Congrats! Looks and sounds really great. And so much more compact than the "substantial" stock can :)


#201 fink
Question from this. Does new pipe retain centre stand?

From the video I gained feck all info about new pipe apart from it sounds a lot meatier when the throttle is continually blipped, not that I spend my day going round blipping throttles on a cold bike.

What I would have preferred was to hear a comparison of the pipes with the throttle held at say 5k for 5-10 seconds in the open air as opposed to being reflected off garage walls.

Make us all jealous at this time of year padding around in your shorts n bare feet in the sunshine. Lol
#202 MrGrumpy83

Well I ain't gonna go back and put the other pipe on just to do that for you, sorry :wink:  .

I'll start by saying the bike wasn't cold - took off the old pipe hot as soon as I got home from work (and changed). It took about 20mins to get the new one fitted.

Garage walls or not it still shows just how different the sound is (which was my goal, precisely 0 videos of this pipe on this bike existed so wanted to make something to demonstrate). The garage is the only flat ground I have at home - I wasn't gonna drag all the recording gear and tools somewhere else flat in order to do it outside. Not ideal I know, but I did my best to minimise the amount of reflections being picked up by using careful mic placement. 

Besides, it's meatier at idle too, so that's two things you gained - also that it looks far better - should we make it 3?  :wink:

Yes, new pipe retains centre stand - although it hangs a little lower now due to a lower bracket - it hasn't changed the ground clearance (I don't think - the exhaust appears to still be slightly lower) but I'll definitely be looking for a rubber pad that's thinner than the stock one to regain some of the clearance (reused the stock rubber bumper).


#203 dogman Thread starter

What do you think of the sound of the SC project exhaust without the baffle while riding? I have one as well now,

I think it is fairly loud compared to my Akrapovic, and doesn't have the nice mellow sound of the Akrapovic without baffle, a bit more of a harsh bark.

On the other hand it is a good looking pipe, well made and much smaller and shows off a lot more of the back wheel.

Maybe its worth playing around with the baffle a bit because the baffle totally kills it for any note at all and makes it just like the stock can, and it looks fairly restrictive as well, and it may be possible to come up with a compromise baffle to avoid any unwanted attention, just a thought.

Also I wonder whether it has induced a slightly lean run as I was getting over 22Ks/litre yesterday, spirited riding, and slight snatchiness on/off throttle although nothing too bad.


#204 MrGrumpy83

I love the sound without the baffle to be honest. I wear earplugs always, and don't find it loud or 'barky' myself - can't speak for others around me, though but am yet to hear any complaints. Yes, it's a harsh bark (especially in VTEC zone) but I actually kind of like that.

If I get neighbourhood complaints and have to put the baffle back in then I might play around with it - it doesn't look as though it would be too difficult to modify.

Mine is actually less snatchy on/off throttle than it was with the stock can - can't speak for economy though - have only commuted really and I don't have a good commuting reference point for this bike anyway. I'll only know after I go for a longer run.


#205 Rectaltronics

I love the sound without the baffle to be honest. I wear earplugs always, and don't find it too loud - can't speak for others around me, though but am yet to hear any complaints.

:blink:


#206 dogman Thread starter

I love the sound without the baffle to be honest. I wear earplugs always, and don't find it loud or 'barky' myself - can't speak for others around me, though but am yet to hear any complaints. Yes, it's a harsh bark (especially in VTEC zone) but I actually kind of like that.

If I get neighbourhood complaints and have to put the baffle back in then I might play around with it - it doesn't look as though it would be too difficult to modify.

Mine is actually less snatchy on/off throttle than it was with the stock can - can't speak for economy though - have only commuted really and I don't have a good commuting reference point for this bike anyway. I'll only know after I go for a longer run.

Yes its OK soundwise while riding along but particularly noisy on cold startup on the fast idle which is when I am adjacent to my neighbors, but no comments so far


#207 dogman Thread starter

Yeah I have gotten used to it now, I think it may have quietened down a bit with some use.

Nice pipe!


#208 MrGrumpy83

Yeah I agree, mine seems to not quite be as brash as it was. Really nice pipe :)


#209 vlj1216
I can't tell if u guys are being dicks or not? I don't own an 8gen I have a 6th. I'm interested in picking up an 8th but am curious of what can options there are. I've obviously googled and have seen quite a few but I thought this was a good discussion to see everything out there state side and elsewhere. If I read u guys wrong my bad.
#210 marriedman

I don't think they are being dicks, they just aren't being very verbose. There are quite a few exhaust options available for the 8th gen and if that isn't enough, you can use any 5th gen can as well. And if that still isn't cool enough, you can have a midpipe made and use just about any can you want out there. There are literally tons of options!


#211 fink

I can't tell if u guys are being dicks or not? I don't own an 8gen I have a 6th. I'm interested in picking up an 8th but am curious of what can options there are. I've obviously googled and have seen quite a few but I thought this was a good discussion to see everything out there state side and elsewhere. If I read u guys wrong my bad.


No not being dicks at all.

It's kind of hard to remember what has been said over the past 45 pages or,In fact how many times the same question has been asked.

I don't have a clue where plantation is. I know what a plantation is. I'm assuming your stateside and not in Europe or in the antipodes.
As there will be variations on what is available depending on where you are in the world.

A quick google came up with 14 different suggestions on the first page.

In reply to your statement what exhausts do you know of and let's see if we can add to the list
#212 dogman Thread starter

I don't think they are being dicks, they just aren't being very verbose. There are quite a few exhaust options available for the 8th gen and if that isn't enough, you can use any 5th gen can as well. And if that still isn't cool enough, you can have a midpipe made and use just about any can you want out there. There are literally tons of options!

Yes and the midpipe is just a length of 51mm tube with a bend in it. If you have access to Delkevic spare parts you can use one of theirs.


#214 Cogswell

^^  That reminds me of the shotgun style exhaust 2 Brothers used to make for the 4th gen.  I probably have a photo of one laying around someplace. 


#215 Grum
Hi PearlBlueSoul.
 
Just for info - the link you posted showing the IXIL L3XB exhaust is misleading, the picture shows the exhaust extending well beyond the pillion foot pegs, in real life they are much shorter as per pictures.
  
http://www.ixilusa.c...5/#.Vs_jY8e3f8s

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#216 wrmjones

Hi PearlBlueSoul.
 
Just for info - the link you posted showing the IXIL L3XB exhaust is misleading, the picture shows the exhaust extending well beyond the pillion foot pegs, in real life they are much shorter as per pictures.
  
http://www.ixilusa.c...5/#.Vs_jY8e3f8s

Whats your opinion of the ixil exhaust love the look how does it sound


#217 Grum

G'day wrmjones.

Have a look at post number 383 in this thread, there is a video with these pipes installed. They sound good, perhaps my Arrow Pro Racing pipe had a deeper sound, but just really like the looks of the IXIL.

Cheers.

Grum


#218 Cheffish
Are you happy with your Delkevic? I just bought one today and should have it next week. For the price it seemed like a no brainer to me.
#219 PearlBlueSoul

Same here, price was the biggest part as was the look.  More or less knew what the sound would be given the prior bike I owned had cans on it.  I sort of wished Delkevic had the snout pointed straight down vs at an angle but thats my OCD getting in the way.  Great pipe, easy to fit, and the pipe color is changing as it wears in.  Starting to match the wheel color a bit with a nice light bronze tint to it from the polish it had before.  


#220 Cheffish
Sounds good. I should have it on Wednesday in time to enjoy a 70* afternoon!
#221 jhenley17
Guys who bought the Ixil, how long did it take from ordering to pipe at your door? And does anyone know the difference between the two black L3XB pipes on their website?
#222 Fz6wja
@Jhenley17: I ordered my Ixil on Feb 29th, shipped on Mar 1st @ the house on Mar 4th. Not sure of the difference in the exhaust they have some issues with their website. I tried to order the silver (stainless) slip on but it was discontinued in Dec. Guy called me up curious to know how I had ordered it online, said it shouldn't still be up on the site. He offered me the black instead and met me in the middle on the price increase(he offered due to website issue).here is what my order showed for the black: "IXIL L3XB BLACK HYPERLOW XL EXHAUST HONDA VFR 800 F 2014-2015 "
#223 jhenley17
That's quicker than I thought, awesome. Black is what I wanted, so that's good to know. Price also went up $25 after this weekend, but still seems like a good deal if it's well made.
#224 Pjcliffo
Just fitted Arrows slip on sounds amazing.

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#225 Grum
Pjcliffo.

That pipe looks the part on a Black VFR, and yes they sure sound good, has a very familiar look about it !!!
Nice one Peter.
Cheers.
Grum.
#228 Shinigami

The Two Brothers SR-1 Race has great sound. Better than the Akro. You can hear the 2-4 valve transition clearly in the video on the dyno.

 

"Better" is in the ear of the beholder... er, I mean, listener.  I quite like the song of my Akrapovic.


#230 Rob916

The Two Brothers SR-1 Race has great sound. Better than the Akro. You can hear the 2-4 valve transition clearly in the video on the dyno.

 

"Better" is in the ear of the beholder... er, I mean, listener.  I quite like the song of my Akrapovic.

My 2 cents :cheerleader:   

I too like the sound of the Akra, and agree with Shinigami 100% .

Unfortunately did not have the cash for the Akra and got the Arrow pro race,

put the db killer back in after around 15 000kms ( got too loud at low rpm through tiny french villages, did still sounded very nice at speed 90-130 kph, not too loud at all ) . 

there is also a very clear change of exhaust note/tone when the v-tec comes in too. 

take care,

rob. 


#231 Shinigami
The Arrow might be the best looking can available right now.
#232 CandyRedRC46

Anything in high mount, is the best looking can available lol.


#233 fink

Just a PSA, I think the difference in the black Ixil pipes is the endcap. Whichever I ordered is satin, I noticed most pics look polished. I'm good with satin, though.[image: 4c352cb51cff7caa2d21f7b258fce14e.jpg]

sorry really don't like it. But like they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
#234 jhenley17
I'd prefer all black or just stop where the endcap starts, but I think the polished endcap doesn't fit after looking.
#235 DriverDave

I still don't understand why they didn't cut the angle the other way (top pipe longer)....like the Ducati Multistrada and MV Agusta F3...especially the F3.  It would look awesome if they lined up perfectly with the leading edge of the rear wheel, leaving the whole wheel exposed.  I would trade my DAM for one in a heartbeat if they did that  :biggrin:


#236 jhenley17
I was looking for either that or just completely under the motor. I haven't looked closely, not sure if that's a cat or a collector under the motor, but if it's a cat, the muffler could definitely be moved out from in front of the wheel. As for the angle as it sits, I like it. The other way around would make me think of a cruiser, I think.

I could probably switch the caps around if I wanted to. Maybe if I'm bored one day, I'll try just for the hell of it. I already plan to sand the insides down so the baffles will go in and out easier.

Edit 2: The Monster is staggered similarly, that was one of my favorite cues on the new one.
#237 Grum

well after some kind soul in a BMW drove into my bike in a car park and cleared off (CCTV caught it but not his plate) I now have a lovely dent in my Remus :(  I am looking at a replacement but since buying the Remus there are now more options . The Ixil hyperlow in black has caught my eye (I have the black bike). My question is do I need the gasket as I had to remove it to fit the Remus and it was destroyed in the process?

Vtwindr. You won't need the gasket, agree with you the IXIL will look fantastic on the Black also looks good on the red. (employed DriverDave's great idea with the 6th gen VFR logo), contrary to DriverDave's thoughts on the exhausts tips being better if they were swapped around, I personally like the fact that the tips nicely line up with the angle of the pillion bracket. Overall I'm very happy with the IXIL.

Cheers.

Grum

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#239 vtwindr

well after some kind soul in a BMW drove into my bike in a car park and cleared off (CCTV caught it but not his plate) I now have a lovely dent in my Remus :(  I am looking at a replacement but since buying the Remus there are now more options . The Ixil hyperlow in black has caught my eye (I have the black bike). My question is do I need the gasket as I had to remove it to fit the Remus and it was destroyed in the process?

Vtwindr. You won't need the gasket, agree with you the IXIL will look fantastic on the Black also looks good on the red. (employed DriverDave's great idea with the 6th gen VFR logo), contrary to DriverDave's thoughts on the exhausts tips being better if they were swapped around, I personally like the fact that the tips nicely line up with the angle of the pillion bracket. Overall I'm very happy with the IXIL.

Cheers.

Grum

Hmmm, just rang supplier in UK who says definitely need the gasket. When I took the OE can off the gasket was welded tight to the front-pipe and had to hack it away to fit the Remus which as a snug fit direct to the front pipe . The gasket was so tight to the pipe I didn't even realise  it was one until I rang Remus saying their connecting pipe was too small and they pointed this out to me! (bit embarrasing that) 


#240 Grum
Vtwindr.
I STRONGLY dissagree with what your supplier is saying. You do NOT need the OEM gasket, other than for the OEM exhaust! All the exhausts I've fitted to both 8gen and 6gen never needed the OEM gasket, that goes for the IXIL, Arrow Pro Racing, Delkevic and Staintune. They all fitted snug onto the catalytic converter flange.
#241 vtwindr

Vtwindr.
I STRONGLY dissagree with what your supplier is saying. You do NOT need the OEM gasket, other than for the OEM exhaust! All the exhausts I've fitted to both 8gen and 6gen never needed the OEM gasket, that goes for the IXIL, Arrow Pro Racing, Delkevic and Staintune. They all fitted snug onto the catalytic converter flange.

OK, thanks for that. Your experience over someone who is just in the office but probably never fit one is good. The main issue now is no-one has any in stock over here!


#242 SlfAwre

Staintune high mount. Fit is perfect, no gasket just little bit of high temp goop. Sound is awesome. Lukewarm on the extreme cone shape though. What do you guys think?

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#243 jhenley17

I like it. If I had the money to spend, I would have had one. I don't mind the cone, but if it were a canister, I could shorten it up a bit.

#244 fink

There is something not quite right about that. Maybe its the cone shape and looks too long. I do like the angle its swept up at tho

#245 DriverDave

I agree, doesn't quite look right. The angle looks to be right on, so I think it's just too long overall.

#246 CandyRedRC46

too much gap. not quite a high mount. looks more like a mid mount. they were able to follow the body much much closer on the 3rd/4th/5th gens and the superhawks...

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#247 SlfAwre
fink

There is something not quite right about that. Maybe its the cone shape and looks too long. I do like the angle its swept up at tho

My thoughts exactly. I really like that you can see the wheel, and I like the noise but the look...just doesn't quite work. No one else makes a high mount for this VFR though, which is kind of suprising to me. Maybe because the high mount really hampers fitting luggage.

There is a high mount for the crossrunner from some Japanese company. Looks like it'd fit. Stock parts look identical between the two bikes. I'm really, really tempted to chance it. Any thoughts on my odds of success? :smile2:

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#248 vlj1216

I like it. And it looks like it's hung with a different bracket than the passenger peg so you could remove them if you wanted to.

#250 jhenley17

That would be awesome. Who wants to be the guinea pig?

#251 SlfAwre
jhenley17

That would be awesome. Who wants to be the guinea pig?

I'm within inches of going for it, but it's megabucks. If it doesn't fit it's really gonna suck. Crossrunners don't even exist in the USA so zero chance of re-selling it (domestically anyway) if it doesn't fit.

Looks so good though, and I think you could ditch the pegs too.

#252 Jochem

Looks like they've also changed the entire passenger peg as it hasn't got the luggage pin and the exhaust mount anymore.

You might have to remove or replace the passenger peg in order to have it fit.

#253 perseverantist

Ordered the Ixil exhaust, received it in 2 days from Indiana.  I'm still up in the air on my decision though...  The small pipes have a different tone than what I'm used to, more raspy than a growl.  I took the db killers out of both and after a trip through downtown Madison with the tall buildings paralleling me I went back home to put them back in.  Too loud for my taste.  With them in it's ok, but it's not the same reverberation you get with the volume in a "regular" can.  Also the proportion of the the pipe to the rest of the bike is just a little off.  I do like how more of the rear wheel is visible.

I suppose while I have the old can off I'll see what I can do to modify it.  I actually don't mind the factory muffler other than the sound of course.  Aesthetically, I think it looks good.

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#255 Bent

Hmmm......I have a 5th gen. stock muffler sitting on the floor of my garage right next to my 2014 VFR (Interceptor?).  Next time I remove the rear wheel for a new tire I will bolt it on and see the sound and appearance differences.  If I don't like the difference, I will likely have a 5th gen. can for sale.  The prices for aftermarket bolt on's are rather unrealistic for what they consist of and what they don't accomplish.  Buying a different sound for a bunch of money doesn't make sense to me but we're all different, thank goodness.  ; )

#256 CJMajesty
2016 at 5:57 AM, Shinigami, March 12

The Arrow might be the best looking can available right now.

+1

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#257 Rsparky
perseverantist, 4/25/2016 at 3:08 PM

Ordered the Ixil exhaust, received it in 2 days from Indiana.  I'm still up in the air on my decision though...  The small pipes have a different tone than what I'm used to, more raspy than a growl.  I took the db killers out of both and after a trip through downtown Madison with the tall buildings paralleling me I went back home to put them back in.  Too loud for my taste.  With them in it's ok, but it's not the same reverberation you get with the volume in a "regular" can.  Also the proportion of the the pipe to the rest of the bike is just a little off.  I do like how more of the rear wheel is visible.

I suppose while I have the old can off I'll see what I can do to modify it.  I actually don't mind the factory muffler other than the sound of course.  Aesthetically, I think it looks good.

That Ixil is the best thing I've seen so far!

#258 RC79Scott

Well, after 9 months with my 14, I went with the Akropovic.  Beautiful craftsmanship.  Finally got to ride with it a little today, and I couldn't be happier.  It's been said it is not much louder.  That is true, but the sound is so much better--just what I wanted.  At idle it sounds like a motorcycle now, but I can still leave the cul-de-sac at < 6AM without disturbing the neighbors.  It sounds great while accelerating without being obnoxious, and it is perfect when cruising steady.  Having a sure fit with my factory bags was a factor, too.  I'll need more time to evaluate temps, MPG, power but I doubt Honda would endorse this one in Europe if those weren't fine.

The only con was a Torx 45 that I didn't have...

#259 Tbone322

Just installed my Akro yesterday.  RC79Scott you summed it up perfectly.  Great sound, fits perfectly and looks good.  I was surprised that it was not real loud.   I luckily had a torn 45.  

One thing I found was that the specified torque on the muffler clamp seemed like it was over tightening it.  Did anyone else feel this?

#260 RC79Scott
14 minutes ago, Tbone322

Just installed my Akro yesterday.  ...  One thing I found was that the specified torque on the muffler clamp seemed like it was over tightening it.  Did anyone else feel this?

Yep, I kept looking at my torque wrench to make sure it wasn't stuck or something.  I had already tightened it with a ratchet to where I thought it was almost torqued, but it kept turning and turning until my wrench finally clicked.  The clamp is almost closed on mine.

#261 Tbone322

My clamp is closed.   I still didn't get a click but have to be darned close.   It's a new torque wrench and it's a good one so I know it's not off calibration.   I figure run it a few times and re-tighten.   I love the look, way nicer than stock.

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#262 fink

Had the same thoughts when I did mine.

#263 fatshoutybloke

Have changed my stone-damaged carbon Scorpion for this, Arrow 'Race-Tech', £236 and arrived from Italy in a week which I thought was good. Nice sound, not that loud with the baffle in (can't go upsetting the rest of the village) but much deeper tone than stock. At 2.6 kilos it's about .5 kilo heaver than the carbon can but still only about half the weight of the Honda monstrosity. Can is longer than the Scorpion but the link pipe is a bit shorter so it only extends back as far as the wheel rim and sits a bit higher. Pretty happy with that.

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#265 jhenley17

If I didn't want the style of the Ixil, I would have a GPR.

I'm guessing there are still no headers? Something that gets rid of the cat and allows a small muffler to take its place? The Ixil does a decent job of showing off the wheel, but I'd like if it were completely out in the open.

#266 andrearonin

Really really happy with Arrow, nice look, nice sound (not too loud with db killer), half weight😎

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