Veefour Electronic Cruise Control, Installed And Tested

I've always used some sort of throttle lock on any motorcycle I've owned that was primarily ridden on the street. Living in the Western US long hauls on open roads are a matter of fact and being able to rest my right hand is a requirement. Except for bar end types of throttle locks I could never really get one to work on the VFR. After about 9 months of owning my 2012 VFR1200 which I bought new in October of 2014 and after making some suspension upgrades to the bike I realized how much I liked this motorcycle and knew I wanted to keep it for a long time and felt it worthwhile to invest in some sort of real cruise control as for me, it was the only feature lacking on an otherwise fantastic motorcycle.

I looked around a little and found the existing units available to be mostly lacking in one way or another or just really expensive. At this point though I was willing to spend almost whatever I needed in order to get a real cruise control.

At the end of last year I was steered towards Prez and the cruise control he was developing for the VFR1200 and VFR1200CT. I begged him to let me test one of the first units using the excuse that with year round riding weather here in Arizona I could start testing as soon as I got it.

Here is the link detailing the development of the CC.

http://www.bikersoracle.com/vfr/forum/showthread.php?t=130536

OK, enough BS, I got my cruise control last week and immediately went to work on installing.

INSTALLATION

The install was, for me, a somewhat time consuming but straightforward task. Its time consuming because of the need to route the wiring harness and PCB enclosure in a way that is not noticeable. The job could be a lot easier if the wires were just run along the outside of the frame,etc... but to install it in a proper way just takes time. The two side fairings need to come off and the tank needs to be lifted and the airbox removed. Stuff we are probably experienced with but nonetheless its just time consuming. Then routing the wires and connecting everything. I would put the install time at somewhere around 6 hours taking your time. Others may be faster or slower.

The connectors supplied with the CC are all OEM, high quality pieces. At thee locations you need to intercept the existing connectors with the CC connectors, Everything fits together perfect. And then there are CC wires which need to be soldered to existing wires. This stuff is all explained in the manual and is easy to follow.

Here is a picture of the CC controller mounted on my motorcycle. Since I have my grip heater controller mounted to the screws where the CC is supposed to go I have the CC using only one of the existing screws for now. I will make a modification to bring the CC controller closer to my hand where it would normally go.

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USING IT

As can be seen in the link thread there are 4 buttons (shared on two rocker switches). One for on/enable, one for setting and recalling memory, one for setting and increasing speed and one for reducing speed. There are two LEDs on the front. A green one for showing the CC is enabled and a red one for showing that the CC is actively controlling the speed. Both a dim when off and get bright when activated. I've ridden at night and the brightness both on and off is perfect.

When activated the CC holds speed very well. Over the mild hills and somewhat windy conditions I've ridden in since installing the CC I've only seen the speed vary +/- 1mph from the setting. As good or better than any auto CC I've used. Besides being able to rest your hand another nice benefit of CC that you might not think about much is suddenly being relieved of having to check your speed often when riding on long stretches of road. The CC has the normal increase and decrease the set speed by tapping on the bottom buttons. That works the same as it does on an auto. A very cool feature is the memory function. You can preset one memorized speed by holding down the memory button for several seconds while you have the CC engaged and to recall the memory you just set the CC at some speed, hit the memory button and the bike will accelerate or slow to that speed. Normally I have the memory set at 68mph. Its a very weird feeling to set the CC while doing 40mph, let go of the throttle, tap the memory button and have the bike accelerate by itself up to 68mph. It gets up to the the memorized speed quite quickly and you are certain the bike is going to overshoot the memorized speed but it doesn't. It works amazingly well. I've included a video link below (couldn't figure out how to embed) where I have the memory set to about 50mph. I engage the CC at about 40mph and you can watch the speed increase to the memorized setting.

https://vimeo.com/161865344

To disengage to CC tap the brakes or pull the clutch or, turn it off. Pulling the clutch causes a brief spike in revs so I prefer to tap the brakes or turn it off. I hope to make another video this weekend which shows the decel and accel functions but those are pretty standard. The CC functions in every gear except 1st. And, it's actually possible to change gears while keeping your speed set if you do it quickly.

Overall I don't really see how the CC could work any better. Prez did a fantastic job. I am looking forward to my next long trip on the open roads.

Looks like a really great piece of kit. Nice write up!

Very nice, is there a way to purchase yet?

Not really required over here but nice job. :beer:

RC1237V

Very nice, is there a way to purchase yet?

I am not sure of the status of the order queue but maybe his is making a list of those interested. Info is in that thread I linked I think.

Why don't you mount both units (CC and Oxford switches) next to each other on a small shaped aluminum plate. This way you can have a very professional look of your bike.

Some aluminum, a file and some small DIY tools can do wonders to the look of your bike...

vfrflanders

Why don't you mount both units (CC and Oxford switches) next to each other on a small shaped aluminum plate. This way you can have a very professional look of your bike.Some aluminum, a file and some small DIY tools can do wonders to the look of your bike...

Like I said previously, I intend modify the mount.

What are we looking at for $$$? Of course that will dictate who might purchase. The unit does like nicely done!

MotardMenace

What are we looking at for $$$? Of course that will dictate who might purchase. The unit does like nicely done!

I think in that linked thread he states the price will be $450EU.

Pleased to inform about 20 EU discount for every "active" forum member.
Be honest - I will check it out!

If anyone is interested I have a "used FULL kit for F model/under tank mount" for sale. It has some scratches - comes with normal warranty.

300€ plus shipping.

I have sent you an email Prez

veeefour, 5/10/2016 at 6:02 PM

If anyone is interested I have a "used FULL kit for F model/under tank mount" for sale. It has some scratches - comes with normal warranty.

300€ plus shipping.

2 hours ago, Freddo

I have sent you an email Prez

Sold!

I was asked about a "group buy" - the answer is yes, it's possible starting from 10 prepaid orders - I can drop 15% for the deal.

I did my first longish ride on Wednesday since installing the cruise control. A 4hr ride.  So long enough for me that my right hand/wrist would have been feeling tired by the end of it. Having the cruise control was fantastic.  Lots of open, rolling terrain.  Really made the ride more enjoyable being able to just watch the road and the scenery without feeling need to monitor/adjust my speed.

If I wasn't dumping all my money into my track bike and track days I would have one of these.  I did a LONG ride yesterday as well and as my wrist started getting sore, I started using my throttle lock (and constantly adjusted that for speed).  I was wishing I had the cruise control once I got back to the slab.  On the curvy roads, I just followed a Camero with a plate that read '1FASTV8'... Needless to say, he set a good pace and made a cop/oncoming traffic buffer.

17 hours ago, crakerjac

If I wasn't dumping all my money into my track bike and track days I would have one of these.  I did a LONG ride yesterday as well and as my wrist started getting sore, I started using my throttle lock (and constantly adjusted that for speed).  I was wishing I had the cruise control once I got back to the slab.  On the curvy roads, I just followed a Camero with a plate that read '1FASTV8'... Needless to say, he set a good pace and made a cop/oncoming traffic buffer.

Start dumping your money if VFR as well - I wont mind  :cool:

ANNOUNCEMENT for Crosstourer users(if any here?):

I will have one of my test harnesses(FULL version) returning form the customer soon, who have chosen the other module location as he cant remove the EVAP
tank so I ended with making a custom harness for him.

So, slightly used FULL Crosstourer kit up to sell for 300 EU plus shipping(around 20 EU depending on location). Interested? Email me directly: veeefour.ecc@gmail.com

SOLD!

The last 3 days have been the best riding on my VFR ever!  1300 k’s have rolled under the wheels. 

I have fitted Prez’s ECC (lite version) how the hell did I ever own a motorcycle without it.  I just fell in love with this bike all over again.  Man this thing is a keeper.   :cheerleader:

sounds nice, but i'd never hold on to the handlebars if i had this   :unsure:

sounds nice, but i'd never hold on to the handlebars if i had this   :unsure:

sounds nice, but i'd never hold on to the handlebars if i had this   :unsure:

Announcement

The summer time is coming and as every human being I shall have some time OFF as well  :happy:

If you guys are planning any GROUP BUY please consider ordering it in the next 3 weeks - I still need some time to process the orders.

July 12th is the last date I will be able to accept the SINGLE orders. I will be answering emails normally but I will not be able to send anything.

I will be back around August 7th. 

So if you want to have a cruise control for your summer trip please have this in mind.

Regards
Prez

Have finally gotten around to having the new VeeFour cruise designed and built by Pres installed and it works just as advertised. This ride by wire unit replaces the old McCruise system that failed. We will do the same replacement on the 2012 VFR 1200 when that McCruise unit fails.

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@veeefour Can I jump on that group buy without having to join that forum?

I'm going to pull the BrakeAway throttle lock off my bike when I fix it and I want to replace it with a real cruise control.

Yeah sure, why not. Dutch are cooking something. Shall I put you on the list, officially?

And please email me directly so I can send you the Installation Manual.

New customer video. Thanks Roy   :beer:

veeefour, 6/10/2016 at 1:39 PM

Yeah sure, why not. Dutch are cooking something. Shall I put you on the list, officially?

And please email me directly so I can send you the Installation Manual.

Put me down as a for sure.  I had emailed you previously and already have the instruction manual, but I'll email you again so you have my 'real' contact information for the group buy.

No more orders until August - it's time for holidays  [image: :020:]

Got mine all installed... And it's raining. 

I feel like a kind on his way to Disney World... Can't wait. 

A big thanks to Prez/Veeefour. Even though he is on the other side of the globe, he answers ALL of my (mostly stupid) questions super quick. Top notch service. 

Bought mine within minutes of discovering this thread. 

Fantastic product. Been wanting a cruise control since forever but was not satisfied with what was out there.  This unit is the real deal. 

Just got got back from a 3 day, 2100km trip to the Adirondacks and could not be happier. A bit of slab to get to NY was actually quite bearable, and using it between the twistys gives the hand a nice rest. 

Well done Prez.  

Just spent a week riding out to Maine and back.  Was a bit more slab than I care to admit to, but I racked up over 3,200 miles and the ECC has worked out well.  The battery in my bike needs to be replaced, so the ECC started acting a little weird the last 2 legs of my trip, but it was WAY better than any sort of throttle lock I have ever used.

I would like to inform everyone that I have some units stock - I'm no longer on vacation so do not hesitate to place your order [image: smile.gif]

Also, pleased to inform that additional 5% rebate for all orders in September.

I do listen what customers have to say and some said they don't like the switch gear. Main complains was: hard to operate with very thick gloves.

Well, first of all it was designed to be cheap and reliable - rocker switches does not require me to order 10.000 pieces with custom symbol,
they are reliable, sturdy and easy to build in, commonly available so the whole switch gear can be manufactured with a reasonable price.

Some were also saying the the price is high so for those people I have designed the first switch. Some said they would like to pay a little
bit more and have more sophisticated design push button with SYMBOLS on it. As mentioned above, I do listen what customers have to say
therefore I spent some time working hard on a new "OPTIONAL" switch version. I was able to find a manufacturer which not require me to
order 10.000 pieces but they are not cheap. Below the CAD view of the new design and sample photos of the mentioned push buttons.
Thy offer a BUILD-IN LED so the two Cruise Control status lights will be integrated in the two upper switches which to me is actually
a very neat idea.

Opinions? Ideas? Feedback? Welcome!

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It looks like that new switch would be easier to operate.  I think once you get used to the original switch and having to push the switch firmly it is fine.  I don't wear thick gloves though.

The price of the cruise control is very reasonable in my opinion.  It seems very unlikely I'd ever own another motorcycle again without cruise control unless that motorcycle wasn't going to see any distance riding.  

Well some were complaining and wanted a switch gear with better "feel" - those push-buttons click very firmly and you can use them with half inch thick gloves. They wanted and they will have it. No probs.

Warned ya, you will never look back - once you have it's addictive  :wink:

About the price - I believe that the price is fair too. Honestly I would rather stop selling them then go cheaper because it's not really working for me below the current price.

Some say it's bargain, some say it's OK but of course there are many saying it's like 3x too expensive - as they say: "One man's meet is another man's poison"!

I think it is an totally fair price. The only reason I haven't bought one yet is because of the kids school expense. I can't see the pictures you posted, but I saw nothing wrong with the most recent design. 

Price is fair.  Yeah.. It would be nice if it was cheaper, but sometimes you get what you pay for and this is a QUALITY unit.

Would the new switch attach the same way as the previous design?  It would be nice to see the wire come out the back of the unit so once could blend the cable in with the rest of the controls.  Since the switch looks taller, would there be any clearance concerns for those with Helibars?  It's not an issue with the current switch...

I can't tell at this moment I'm afraid. Even tho the Manufacturer of those push-buttons does not require you to order 10k pcs you still need to invest some money - over a grand to reach their MOQ and that would be only for push-buttons. I spent almost all available ECC funds for recent parts restocking so I'm not able to invest that kind of money right now.
 
 
Right now is a part of a year when everyone is concerned about "riding" till the winter comes and not spending the money nor dismantling the bike so I'm not selling a lot even tho the price is a bit lower. Guess I need to sell few more units - "no go" for now.
 
 
About the compatibility you asked very good question. Initially I wanted to use the same LED's as before but the housing was just too tall and it would most defo collide with tank fairing.  So I had to use the built in LED’s which saved around 15mm. I’m still not sure about the clearance – I even designed a mount plate with an offset – the switch no longer be centered – it need to go a bit higher. Overall the new housing is 20mm taller – 80mm vs 60mm. Another thing is to match the LED brightness. I have no idea what kind of LED’s they have used there. All they can give is the forward voltage and current which is not enough to tell if they will have the same brightness. Might require changing some resistors "inside the module”. Clearance should be be an issue with the Crosstourer - only concerned about VFR here.
 
I think I need to start some kind of "Patreon" or "Kickstarter" project to bring those buttons to live :wink:

Well folks, last week to get 5% off. I will have few days off around end of the next week.

Hi Prez, I have been following you and your ECC for some time now and I think it is amazing. In essence it is a true Cruise Control.

It is definitely on my wish list, just need to save the coins to get it (As you know, cash flow is always a problem with other projects on the go). I look forward to the presentation of the V2.0 switch block.

Out here is Oz (Australia) the only real option for a cruise control is the McCruise which retails for about AUD$1100.00

Your full kit @ €430.00 is about AUD$620.00 (+postage) This is unquestionably a fair price!

Thx, I sold quite a few "down under"  :wink:

As for today switch v2 is not going to happen - not enough interest to spent "so"much money on production.

FWIW I did 1800 miles over a 3 day ride a couple of weeks ago.  Several stints of filling up the bike and not stopping until I needed more gas and in some of the more remote areas having the cruise control on for all but about 10 minutes of a full tank run.  CC is a game changer for covering big miles.

10 hours ago, In54ne

Hi Prez, I have been following you and your ECC for some time now and I think it is amazing. In essence it is a true Cruise Control.

It is definitely on my wish list, just need to save the coins to get it (As you know, cash flow is always a problem with other projects on the go). I look forward to the presentation of the V2.0 switch block.

Out here is Oz (Australia) the only real option for a cruise control is the McCruise which retails for about AUD$1100.00

Your full kit @ €430.00 is about AUD$620.00 (+postage) This is unquestionably a fair price!

 

 Switched out my McCruise unit when the vacuum failed and installed the unit Prez built. Had some initial issues that were self-inflicted (a bolt not tightened near the housing on the cruise control unit where the throttle cable attached caused erratic on and off behavior). Used the cruise for a three week trip across Canada this summer and the cruise worked as advertised, including surviving truly biblical rain storm in Saskatchewan. 

Going to take some time off in December-January. Last orders accepted until December 11th - next orders in around middle of January.

For those 3 weeks left - 5% off  [image: :062:]

After reading this, I'm sold. Have Throttlemeister but after fitting Honda OEM heated grips they don't work very well.
How do I go about ordering? I'm in OZ.


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Please email me directly: veeefour.ecc@gmail.com

Hi veeefour,

Can you please recap on the options available.

I'm thinking I'll go with the full Monty, old style switches and left side on my 2010 DCT and shipped to Oz, if this is a possible configuration.

I would not recommend installing LHD switch on DCT - it may still be possible with Crosstourer or with some superbike handle bar conversion

but, when you want to buy ECC form me for dual clutch version I say RHD switch only - not physically possible to put anything aside that giant park brake lever.

You may still try to customize something but this would be your job.

Switches are side specific but you may convert RHD to LHD in any time but you would need to swap 4 pins in the main connector or simply just "live" with it(functions upside down).

Shipping fees:

-EU free shipping

-US and CAN +5€

-AU +10€

13 hours ago, veeefour

I would not recommend installing LHD switch on DCT - it may still be possible with Crosstourer or with some superbike handle bar conversion

but, when you want to buy ECC form me for dual clutch version I say RHD switch only - not physically possible to put anything aside that giant park brake lever.

You may still try to customize something but this would be your job.

Switches are side specific but you may convert RHD to LHD in any time but you would need to swap 4 pins in the main connector or simply just "live" with it(functions upside down).

Shipping fees:

-EU free shipping

-US and CAN +5€

-AU +10€

Thanks Prez.. I was thinking left, because it is a long reach for the thumb to work controls on the RHD, but that park-brake does take up a lot of space, so RHD it will be..

Received, fitted & tested. Thanks Prez, had fun installing. Biggest obstacle is routing wires but there are a couple of simple solutions that will save a lot of time.
Got to say this is a great product, if anyone is in doubt that wants ecc do it, you won't be disappointed.


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4 hours ago, DeanFinch

Received, fitted & tested. Thanks Prez, had fun installing. Biggest obstacle is routing wires but there are a couple of simple solutions that will save a lot of time.
Got to say this is a great product, if anyone is in doubt that wants ecc do it, you won't be disappointed.


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Cheers m8  :beer:

Spring sale!

The Spring is coming - make sure your bike is equipped with Cruise Control before the season!

Until the end of April fixed prices for everyone:
-400 EU for FULL kit either F or X model.
-350 EU for LITE kit either F or X model.

I've put about 16k miles on my VFR since installing the cruise control one year ago. It still works great.  No way I'd have another long haul bike without one.  Definitely one of the best motorcycle related purchases I've ever made.

I also started a "40 EU back for your video" program - please email me for details.

Also as an option push-button type switches. First type already in sale:

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New type coming soon:

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Any idea of an ETA and cost for the square switch?

Approx two weeks - cost the same as the first push-button +30/50/70 EU

https://www.crosstourer.com/index.php/topic,4946.msg55684.html#msg55684

New switches stacked together. Lets call the left one as square and the right one as rectangle:

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Damn... I want that square control unit...

I'll tell you what it's like when I fit it :goofy:

Just a friendly reminder - 40 EU back for your quick video!

2-3 mins, at least 720p, you can insert some captions if you are shy to talk, English preferred.

Arrived and fitted. Now made a great product perfect. Looks good and easy to reach and operate with gloves while holding the throttle open.

Now just to work out how to mount the GoPro to make the video so you can see the switch and speedo while riding.

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Great!

I'm stealing your pics  :tongue:

You are welcome.

The only difficult bit in fitting is screwing  the switch onto the back plate. There is not enough room for a screwdriver. I had to replace the cross head screws with allen bolts. It was the same with the original switch so maybe allen bolts should be included instead. Unless I'm being thick and some one has found an easy way to do it. Just a thought, maybe the problem is only when fitting to the right side as for the DCT version.

Good info - I have a bag of M3 allens on hand and hex heads as well. I guess I would need to include all 3 in the so buyers can chose whats better for them.

And yes, no matter of the switch type it's not that easy to screw them in - I spent hours with CAD and it turned out you can either have a compact

size or easy fit - theoretically you only need to mount it once so at the end of the day, having a compact shape may be worth the hassle .

Pic annotated to show the position of the switch cable running over the frame.

Hex heads might be easier still as there was not much room for the allen key either.  I will be removing the unit when I sell my bike as its a fantastic product and a great bike.

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Hex heads a definite. Especially if you need to remove unit to do anything to gear attached to the two mounting bolts for the brake lever and reservoir. Just replaced the screws with hex heads much easier. Took forever to remove the old ones. [image: 8e62f4ecd03e617bfd18a5c6b81ed254.jpg][image: 9ea0e1035edd0e8e03939c2fd9619dc4.jpg]


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DavidField, 5/14/2017 at 11:22 AM

Pic annotated to show the position of the switch cable running over the frame.

Hex heads might be easier still as there was not much room for the allen key either.  I will be removing the unit when I sell my bike as its a fantastic product and a great bike.

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If only we could have a letter or 2 or 3 etched out under/above the buttons. There is space so.....just above and beneath the LEDs.

:ON", "MEM", "SET", "RES" that would just make everything simply AWESOME....especially on the square unit. So Prez...what do you think?

1 hour ago, fotodadi

If only we could have a letter or 2 or 3 etched out under/above the buttons. There is space so.....just above and beneath the LEDs.

:ON", "MEM", "SET", "RES" that would just make everything simply AWESOME....especially on the square unit. So Prez...what do you think?

once you've used it a few times the legend would be redundant. I don't consider it a necessary expense. If it isn't 2nd nature then you shouldn't be using it.

3 hours ago, DavidField

once you've used it a few times the legend would be redundant. I don't consider it a necessary expense. If it isn't 2nd nature then you shouldn't be using it.

I agree Dave, if you need to look then you have bigger problems than setting your CC
Though in saying that, in keeping with standard motorcycle switches these are all labelled with little graphics which I can't recall having ever looked at except when standing next to the bike..

I just couldn't operate the original rocker switches at all with normal gloves on, even with my lighter weight summer gloves it was hit or miss as to whether I could get it to operate. Now with the new switch it's very simple.., so easy in fact, that I set the MEM button to 22mph and use it every day in the stupid 20mph zones that have sprung up in the main thoroughfares in Edinburgh.

Just discovered (I know its taken me a long time) that the ECC is even better than that on cars. It retains BOTH memory settings even after the bike is switched off!! So for weekday riding when I go thorough 20 MPH and 30 MPH zones I don't have to reset the standard memory. The MEM button and the Resume button both retain their settings after switching off.

Yup, it's saved in eprom  :beer:

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Autumn sale!

My workshop will be closed in the most part of the October and probably a week or two in November.

Last orders by 24th of September and fixed prices for FULL version for everyone:

380 EU for FULL kit either F or X model.

Normal shipping charges:
15 EU - shipping within EU
20 EU - shipping to US or CAN
25 EU - shipping to AU

Even even better: only now, in this sale push-button switch free of charge!

Be sure to grab yours before it's too late :)

DavidField, 5/24/2017 at 6:12 PM

I just couldn't operate the original rocker switches at all with normal gloves on.

I had the same problem with my original rocker switch.  I have a new rocker switch and it's night and day.  With the old rocker I had to be very deliberate with the button presses for them to register.  With the new rocker switch I just give the rocker a poke and the input always registers.  I don't know if it's just a different lot of components or what.  I was dead set on getting the push buttons before and now I don't think I need them... however the square is the best looking IMHO.

@veeefour Are you ready for me to send back my old unit?

yup

OK, last orders this week. I can accept two more orders only.

I just uninstalled the ecc front a 2010 dct to install it on my brand new 2013 dct. Should have taken pictures as I don't remember where the black wire connects to ?

Also, the 2 plugs from ecc harness in the picture ? One connects to the oem plug and the other one ???

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Are those the plugs running to the front left of the bike or running to the rear of the bike?

4 hours ago, swimmer

Are those the plugs running to the front left of the bike or running to the rear of the bike?

front left of the bike

20 minutes ago, Normand

front left of the bike

Got a response from Prez, simple, plug to oem connector and use the free connector for accessory quartet harness.

Very nice kit. I might get one


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PLEASE NOTE: We will be closed from December 12th 2017 to January 8th 2018.

A happy new year to your all!  [image: :002:]

I'm back and working full time again. 

All orders in January 5% off!

New switch version around the corner that will have built-in LED's in push-buttons.

Some wanted a simplified version with even smaller controller - so here you go  [image: :002:]

Key features:
-ECC will always stay ON - no more ON/OFF button.
-middle MEMORY push-buton with green LED will inform that ECC is on and ready to go
-upper SET/+  push-button with red LED will illuminate when the ECC is engaged.
-lower RES/- push-button with STATUS red LED - it will indicate few things like: brake applied, clutch applied, pressed button, faulty conditions etc.

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New switch release date: end of April/beginning of May.

We are going to take some time off for the most part of April - last orders until the end of the next week. 
For those 2 weeks left: free push-button switch upgrade for new customers.

2017 at 5:59 PM, Normand, October 17

Got a response from Prez, simple, plug to oem connector and use the free connector for accessory quartet harness.

PM sent.

Guys, I'm not checking this forum that often anymore. Please feel free to email me directly: veeefour.ecc@gmail.com

1 hour ago, veeefour

Guys, I'm not checking this that often anymore. Please feel free to email me directly: veeefour.ecc@gmail.com

For Info:

I had to type the email address to get it to work... it won't just copy and paste directly.

http://www.v-performance.pl/en/cruise-control