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Rear Brake Hanger 4th and 5th gen

51 posts Started 4 Jan 2018 Last recovered post 11 May 2019 Wayback Machine snapshot 21 Jul 2019

#1

checking if there is any interest in custom rear brake hangers for 4th and 5th gen's. On 4th gen it's pretty much just cool, maybe save afew pounds, but on 5th gen it will make DeLink way easier. 

The hangers are made to use Brembo 84mm calipers, which are relatively cheap. Also good for the Beringer Mini ($$$). Possibly over slung, but primarily under.

Price would be dependent on how many we can get to commit. 150-200 is my guess.

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Thanks

#2

I'd be very interested in this.

I do have an 8th gen caliper already, not sure the size.

Might be more economical to make it fit a readily available CBR or similar caliper.

#3

i will take one also

#4

Interested!

#5

Interested for 5th gen, 2x.

Cheers,

#6

Also interested for 5th/6th

#7
15 hours ago, VFROZ

I'd be very interested in this.

I do have an 8th gen caliper already, not sure the size.

Might be more economical to make it fit a readily available CBR or similar caliper.

Brembo P32 or P34 are small and plentiful. they are used on Ducati/Aprillia/etc. New with pads about $130, used as little as $50... 

#8

Interested 4th Gen

#9

5th gen on final approach, 4th gen's almost there as well...

For 4th gen folks, Over (stock position) or Under slung ?

#10

under slung for me, any prices yet?  

#11

any updates, this would be brilliant timing for me to delink the rear along with seb's custom rearset adapters

#12
3 hours ago, kave

any updates, this would be brilliant timing for me to delink the rear along with seb's custom rearset adapters

Waiting on the 3rd. and what should be the last, proto type for test fit...... I know the feeling, bike's been in pieces for months now :(

#13

Has there been any progress with this  for 4th Gen?

#14
bigb, 4/4/2018 at 1:54 PM

Has there been any progress with this  for 4th Gen?

Sorry to all interested. The machinist working on these does not seem to be working on these..... :(  As often happens, like with exhaust systems, other $$ producing projects always seem to relegate vfr stuff to "later".....

My 5th gen is apart, waiting for v4 (hopefully the final version) and with the weather getting better i may just re assemble it without.

IF anything actually happens eventually i will post up...

#15

I ended up trying a full conversion, can take me off the list

Thx  

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#16

Put me on the list.  I have a 5th gen.  I'll take whatever the majority picks (underslung?).

#17

Another vote for a 5th generation model. In fact, I am gathering parts for an RC-51 front clip update and delink at the present. (I'm new to this forum, so please feel free to point me to the related resources.)

-Kirk

#18
gig, 4/8/2018 at 8:28 AM

I ended up trying a full conversion, can take me off the list

Thx  

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What rear hugger is that? Also, what is the full rear conversion consist of?

#19

Put me on the list for 5th gen. Was it Bill from Hawk GT forums taking this on? I need to catch up on all the forums been busy.

Art

#20
artpongs, 5/27/2018 at 2:59 AM

What rear hugger is that? Also, what is the full rear conversion consist of?

Judging by the brake line clamps, I'd say it was a Harris hugger.  

Ciao,

#21

Any updates on the availability of this hanger? 

I have very recently acquired the critical components that I need to move forward with my RC-51 USD forks conversion, de-linking the brakes along the way. I am keenly interested in this hanger as part of the plan to lighten the rear hardware too.

#22

It seems this has gone by the wayside.

#23

ill bet there is a way to use the 848 hanger on the vfr. it would only be a $25 investment to try. The brembo caliper and master have more then adequate stoping power if able to get them bled properly which is a task. Much better and 8 lbs lighter the the vfr rear set up

#26
Zazen, 7/28/2018 at 6:38 PM

Any updates on the availability of this hanger? 

After way too long dealing with life, the machinist is back on these.  Hopefully final production 4th and 5th gens soon.....

#27

Woohoo, I'll take two

#28

I'm still in for 5th and 6th - not sure yet how many total, but a couple at least

#29

I'm still in for a 4th gen under slung. Any idea on price yet?

#30

4th Gen Final product test fit this Sunday..... 5th to follow shortly.... looking at $200 shipped, with stainless hardware, in lower 48 USA, all others add postage....[image: 185651588_4thgenvfr(5).thumb.jpg.e07af2c5f2f756f31532a4e6fc4747c2.jpg]

#31

4th gen test fit all good.  Stock vs modded....[image: 902978385_4thgenvfr(12).thumb.jpg.dbbf85ffd9af3ebdb42104994448547c.jpg]

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This is NOT a performance mod, i had no issues with the stock rear brake. I just like cool stuff.

The hanger is for using a Brembo side outlet p32 or p34 rear caliper, the top outlet version just barely hits the valve stem and spokes (less than 1mm). Many Ducati's and Aprillia's, etc, use them, so they are plentiful on Ebay.  Also suitable for the Beringer and ISR if you have deep pockets. You will also need a new brake line since the caliper is Underslung. This is for the stock rotor size, of which there are Chinese versions that drop 1 pound. Works fine with stock MC. The Beringer may not enable locking it up as it is tiny, works fine for light duty applications.

Kit comes with Stainless fasteners, and is a work of art.

$200 shipped lower 48, all others will be additional postage. PM for order info. A donation to VFRD with each sale of course :)

thanks, db

#32

More pics....

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Beringer

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#33
2 hours ago, slo1

More pics....

Beringer

Underslung looks sexy, but doesn't that put the bleeders at or near the low point of the caliper?

My interest has been for the 5th gen; will they be essentially the same? Or is a top side option a possibility?

#34
2 hours ago, Zazen

Underslung looks sexy, but doesn't that put the bleeders at or near the low point of the caliper?

My interest has been for the 5th gen; will they be essentially the same? Or is a top side option a possibility?

Yes, which means removing the caliper may be required for bleeding. I have never had issues on the vfr, nc30, or Hawk GT with underslung.

5th gen came underslung, and i doubt there would be sufficient interest to run overs, but you never know... They will hopefully be finalized shortly....

#35
Zazen, 9/18/2018 at 5:31 PM

Underslung looks sexy, but doesn't that put the bleeders at or near the low point of the caliper?

My interest has been for the 5th gen; will they be essentially the same? Or is a top side option a possibility?

Clocking the 5th gen at 8ish o'clock puts the bleeder at the top :)

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#36

in my experience you want to keep the eccentric/axel as close as possible to the 6-oclock position

#37
2 hours ago, gig

in my experience you want to keep the eccentric/axel as close as possible to the 6-oclock position

Agreed, but the caliper is always where it's at be that 12, 6, 8, 5, etc....

#38
slo1, 9/26/2018 at 3:29 PM

Clocking the 5th gen at 8ish o'clock puts the bleeder at the top 🙂

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Is that the 5th Gen finalised, you taking orders now?

#39
22 hours ago, kave

Is that the 5th Gen finalised, you taking orders now?

No orders yet... but soon....

#40
slo1, 10/1/2018 at 10:11 PM

No orders yet... but soon....

I see you have the 4th Gen up in the classifieds, well done that man, good work!

Now hows about our lovely 5th gens

#41

Is this hanger suitable for those doing a Ducati 1098/1198/848 rear wheel conversion? I believe those bikes have the same rear calliper.

Stray

#42
8 hours ago, Stray

Is this hanger suitable for those doing a Ducati 1098/1198/848 rear wheel conversion? I believe those bikes have the same rear calliper.

Stray

They are made for use on the Honda eccentric. So if the conversion doesn't change the eccentric, maybe. I do not know if it would fit a Ducati eccentric. Ducati uses a smaller rotor, so it would require a stock Honda rotor as well....

#43

Good point - thanks slo1. 

#44

Any progress to share?  Certainly living up to your nickname lol

#45
15 hours ago, kave

Any progress to share?  Certainly living up to your nickname lol

LOL :)  Sadly, after having no one actually wanting a 4th gen(paying for one), my machinist decided to move on to other things that would actually help him pay the bills 😞

All the banter about "Top Mount", "Stock Caliper", and various wheel fitment which could not be confirmed or guaranteed, it just seemed unfeasible.

It is an item that adds no HP, only looks, and incurs the cost of a caliper and probably brake line as well. i understand most don't care to spend the $$'s on "Bling", and the loss of a couple pounds of weight.

Most custom parts made for old bikes by small machinist guys are mostly from passion. But if all the time, effort, and $$'s invested don't make enough to cover cost, the passion for that part fades... The machinist went back to concentrating on parts for nt650 Hawk/Bros, which there seems to be a bigger market for than for vfr parts, which is ironic.....

The the final 5th gen version is working great on my bike, as is a 4th gen version on the other bike :)

#46

Ah man, that's a kidney punch right there!  If your machinist already has the necessary jigs/template to produce, I have money ready...

Also, re: just bling, as it is likely the best option for a CBS rear delink.

#47

I started to remove the rearsets to change them out for 929 type using Sebs adapters.  I end up de-linking and swapping out the brake system! 

The rear system presented a bigger challenge than front as I didn't want to re-use the monster caliper with 2 lines.   Seems like too much compromise.  

With a bit of thought, I figured adapting a floating piston Brembo with simple bracket should work.   I just happen to have a 3D printer and have been using Fusion360 to make other things.  It's a perfect opportunity!

So, I was able to design an adapter to mount a Brembo P32 caliper to the OEM (5g) hanger!   I should have a part machined for testing very soon.  

I test fitted the caliper using 3D fdm parts.  First part was a guess fit as I didn't have the caliper yet.  It fit the hanger but the caliper was way too low. I did have one on my Hawk but I wasn't about to remove it while waiting for one intended for the VFR.  After getting the caliper, it took me 2 prints and several changes to correctly locate the caliper.

With a bit of measuring, fitting and designing, it's possible to go this route without changing the whole hanger.   Plus, I don't have to disassemble the hub to change out the hanger.  To me, this was the faster route to change the rear caliper using an adapter bracket and it turned out to be a fun exercise.  I can't wait to get it all mounted.  In the front, it is standard VTR lowers, calipers and MC.  Got the 3mm spacers off McMaster Carr.   The rear line has to be custom kitted. Both masters are 14mm.   Stay tuned!

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#48
21 hours ago, eyrwbvfr

 I just happen to have a 3D printer and have been using Fusion360 to make other things.  It's a perfect opportunity!

Could you please tell me more about this?  You can design items using this software, prototype them using a 3D printer and then have them machined by a third party merely by sending them the file?  That would be great!

Ciao,

JZH

#49

Autodesk Fusion 360 is cloud based and designs are easily shared.   The shop making the parts also happens to use the same software.   Some design details are specific to 3D.  So going from 3D (additive) to CNC (subtractive), some of the design is changed to be optimized for CAM.

#50

Thanks.  I've got Fusion360 installed, but I have not yet used it.  I will have to look around for some tutorials on how to design for both 3D printing and CNC.

I would like to get my own CNC mill someday, but if I can make prototypes on a 3D printer that would get me started.

Ciao,

JZH

#51

You should.  Good printers are now about $200.  It used to be $500 was the starting price. 

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