In Dutch, it's called a "Garage"

Coincidence, or what?!?

So, I'm buying a ~275 year-old, three-story "canal house" in the Netherlands with a ground floor which is destined to be my new garage.  Not an American-sized garage by any stretch of the imagination, but if I can manage the space well it should be big enough to meet my current needs.  The total garage area is about 40m2--with 3.5m ceilings.  The challenge is that if I want to be able to use the space as a workshop (and I do), I've got to find some place to store 9-10 motorcycles... (No, selling them is not an option!)

My tentative solution is to use the garage's height in a creative way, such that I will build a heavy duty shelf 2m off the ground on the three side walls and lift the bikes up and down using an electric "pallet stacker".  The shelves will be constructed from 41x41 Unistrut, with 1m-spaced verticals attaching at the floor and the ceiling (as well as to the walls).  I'll use a 45-degree shelf support bracket made of welded rectangular tube attached to the horizontal and vertical struts.  The bikes will sit on metal "sleds" I will design and build, which may be based on the Baxley-type wheel chocks I have 6 of now, or maybe on an ABBA stand-type design.  The stacker can lift 1000kg 3.5m (it was either that or install some sort of winch/gantry system to the ceiling--this is simpler!)

I'm not a structural engineer, but I've read a bit about the Unistrut system, which is quite versatile and very strong.  I won't need to weld anything to the Unistrut (which is good, because it is galvanized steel...), but I can build the 45-degree brackets and the "sleds" from mild steel tubing and plate.  I should have enough room for six bikes, even if I only use the side walls.  I can only ride one at a time, so as long as they are accessible (and the floor area remains free of obstruction), I should be able to retrieve them whenever I want to worn on them or ride them.  It should look something like this:

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The front wall will have 4x folding doors with windows above, plus there are french doors at the back and a small office.  I should get plenty of light.

Thoughts...?  (Especially re the crazy shelf idea!)

Cheers,

JZH

Now that's a worthy project! Captain 80's has lots of Hondas up on a high shelf, although my memory of his shop pics is that they are lighter, smaller displacement. Just because it might be crazy doesn't mean it won't work.

I'm sure I'm stating the obvious when I add that when working with a building pushing 300 y.o. you want to make sure the overall structure can handle it also.

I have a friend in Portland OR, skilled at reviving old BMW's (bikes that is), who completely renovated a barn and made the upstairs his workshop. He went the pallet/cable/winch route you mention and ended up with a great mostly wooden elevator! He did have more space to work with however.

A private collector here has his collection display. Here you see a few bikes on a shelf: 

https://www.haaningcollection.dk/galleri?itemId=swsc1cguukqiw1gwoj1ptasif2b7mv

If worries about the cantilever shelf, consider adding a wire suspension from a beam above.

5 hours ago, JZH

Thoughts...?  (Especially re the crazy shelf idea!)

If nothing else it'll be a hell of a lot less work/$$$ than Colin Furze's underground lair.

I'm guessing your benches/toolboxes will sit underneath the bikes, right? Castors will let you rearrange them easily to suite your needs. Please snap a few pics of the build to show your progress.

21 hours ago, Lorne

If nothing else it'll be a hell of a lot less work/$$$ than Colin Furze's underground lair.

I'm guessing your benches/toolboxes will sit underneath the bikes, right? Castors will let you rearrange them easily to suite your needs. Please snap a few pics of the build to show your progress.

If I tried to dig a basement in South Holland, I'd have a swimming pool!

Yes, the reason for the cantilevered shelves is mainly to avoid interference with the workbenches and machine tools underneath.  I could, of course, run at least some front verticals, but I've seen other workshops where they're using pallet racks for both storage and workbenches, and the extra vertical supports always seem to be "in the way".  I'm trying to avoid that.

I'm also trying to avoid supporting anything from the ceiling (which is also the bottom floor of our house).  They built these houses very sturdily, but I don't want to chance doing anything which could compromise the structure of the house itself.

I will try to post my progress here.  I don't actually have the keys, yet, but that day is almost here!  Then I've got to move fairly quickly to avoid having everything in the UK delivered to the same space in which I'm trying to build all this stuff...  :ohmy:

Ciao,

JZH

Throwing this up there for the halibut, may or may not be useful. We use this stuff all over the manufacturing plants. 

I have thought about building a trailer with it. Strong as all get out. ....No welding required... 

https://parco-inc.com/tslot-aluminum-extrusions/

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Curious, your option, what does a 275 year old Netherlands house look like? Photo? 

kool deal there.  please invite noraly over to see things, and try to get her drunk.  😍

What about a cheap hitch hauler that you could strap the bike to and then lift and mount to the Unistrut?

mello dude, 6/28/2025 at 1:00 AM

Throwing this up there for the halibut, may or may not be useful. We use this stuff all over the manufacturing plants. 

I have thought about building a trailer with it. Strong as all get out. ....No welding required... 

https://parco-inc.com/tslot-aluminum-extrusions/

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Curious, your option, what does a 275 year old Netherlands house look like? Photo? 

I bought some of that stuff to build an enclosure for my 3D printer (not yet assembled...).  Very cute--compared with the brute utility of Unistrut!  Generally, however, aluminum anything is a lot more expensive than steel, plus I'd not really know where to start with calculating the loads and sizes required.  I've seen unistrut used in countless (sometimes dangerous) situations, so I'm fairly comfortable using it for the shelving structure.  I've ordered some test pieces and brackets, so I will have a better idea soon enough.

Yeah, I don't think I want to put a pic of my actual house on t'internet, but it looks something like the house on the left:

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Mine's not red, not directly on a canal, and is a little taller, but it's a traditional house in a traditional row of Dutch houses like this.  Most such houses have had their ground floors converted into modern living areas (from whatever they were originally, such as a retail shop or workshop).  

Ciao,

JZH

squirrelman, 6/28/2025 at 2:35 AM

kool deal there.  please invite noraly over to see things, and try to get her drunk.  😍

The last place she probably wants to go is the Netherlands!

Ciao,

JZH

Sweeper, 6/28/2025 at 3:36 PM

What about a cheap hitch hauler that you could strap the bike to and then lift and mount to the Unistrut?

Not sure what you mean?  However, there is some question about whether I will be able to get my van (and its hitch) into the garage at all at this point...but there is no question that I would NOT have enough room to maneuver it around inside if I did!  

I will have some Unistrut to play with in a few days, so I will decide what to do after that.  This is an electric "pallet stacker", btw:

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What makes it different than a "forklift" is that it requires support underneath the load, so I will need to be able to slide the front wheels of this thing underneath anything sitting on the floor of my garage below the bike shelves.  So that means everything there needs to be on legs or wheels or a platform.  No problem with workbenches and tool cabinets, but more of a challenge with machine tools such as my bandsaw, drill press, welding cart, future plasma table, lathe, mill, etc.  Fortunately, I like planning; unfortunately, more than doing!

Ciao,

JZH

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The forklift could easily lift this assembly like a pallet. If you put casters under it, you could push it around the garage easily. The 2" hitch would give you an easy way to attach it to your wall assembly.

Okay, I see what you mean now.  Yes, I plan to make some sort of "sled" to allow the bikes to be lifted up using a fork.  The frames don't need to be very heavy duty (i.e., heavy), but I do need at least six of them, so I'm pretty sure I'll be welding them myself.  Because the shelves will not go all the way to the wall (because the verticals will be in the way), I was thinking about having each sled extend over the front and rear of the shelf with a kind of 30-40mm "tongue" to keep the sled effectively locked in place until lifted straight up with the fork (lift). 

Fortunately, I have something like 6-7 of these Baxley Wheel Chock knock-offs already, which is a wheel chock design I like because it pinches and holds the front wheel very securely:

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The clever bit of this design is the articulated wheel clamp, which would be fairly difficult for me to duplicate, but I could probably create a lightweight, fork lift-compatible frame which simply includes a horizontal bracket with angled pivots like that, thus allowing me to use the parts from the stands I've already got.  Another thing to CAD...

My Unistrut parts arrived, so I mocked one up to get the scale into my head.  That bracket is 2m above the floor, which is where the top of the shelf would be.  Yikes, that's up there!  I'm not sure how deep the shelves should be, but the minimum would be 600mm, and maximum probably 1m.  IIRC, the 5th gen in the background measures ~770mm bar-end to bar-end, but in theory the shelf could be narrower than that.  The workbenches below will be a standard 600mm deep, but 41mm from the wall.  

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They make these pre-welded "cantilever arms" for Unistrut in all kinds of sizes, up to 1m long, and they're silly cheap (like £8 each), so I will probably use them for the main shelf supports.

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I'd then only have to cut, drill and weld the 45-degree brackets supporting them, using 30mm mild steel box section and 40mm x 8mm flat bar.

Another fun fact is that because my ceiling is 3.5m high, I'll have to buy the 6m lengths of strut and cut them down if I don't want to couple two of them (and I don't!).  Fortunately, they will still fit in the van--so long as I cut them first.

Ciao,

JZH

I'm enjoying this thread, looking forward to all the other things you will figure out, and the final result.

Are the elevated motorcycle "shelves" really just for display, or do you intend to walk downstairs one morning, decide which bike is perfect for a ride that day, bring it down and zoom off?

It looks like there are good resources for "Beam Loads" and "Column Loads" for Unistrut  at given spans online. The only worry I would have is it pulling out of the wall, or bending just below the 45 degree brace. If they are much taller than the bikes, you can run a piece of Unistrut or metal/wood beams across form side to side to prevent collapsing in on itself, and use those to hang your lighting. Although you are extremely thorough in everything I have ever seen you do, so you probably already have a way better plan than my quick brainstorm...  :goofy:

Do post pics as you're building it, we need a good project here to keep us dreaming about our own work spaces!

Is it too wet there for painted or epoxy floors?

What a fun project.

From an engineering perspective, the closer you sit the bike to the vertical supports, the lower the bending moment on the cantilever will be.

I do occasionally drive a counterbalance fork lift (I have a licence and everything!) and I can tell you that putting 1 tonne loads onto the third level of pallet racking takes some hand-eye coordination and a little nerve. You shouldn't have too many problems with your nifty lift truck as I expect the visibility will be much better. You will need to make sure the floor under your shelves is really smooth as the wheels look quite small. 

As an engineer. No. Just....no.

Do not put that much moment on your walls. They're not designed for that.
Unistrut isn't really meant for doing what you want to do. That angle bracket especially. Its great for easy adjustments and quick builds. Not to hold motorcycles.

Figure out how you want to 'tray' the bikes. Make suitable 4 post rack. Use unistrut if you want, but use pallet rack would be easier. Can still anchor it to the wall for safety. Figure your real loading is more like 4x. 2x is considered 'sudden loading' for objects already in contact with each other.

RC1237V, 7/3/2025 at 3:47 AM

It looks like there are good resources for "Beam Loads" and "Column Loads" for Unistrut  at given spans online. The only worry I would have is it pulling out of the wall, or bending just below the 45 degree brace. If they are much taller than the bikes, you can run a piece of Unistrut or metal/wood beams across form side to side to prevent collapsing in on itself, and use those to hang your lighting. Although you are extremely thorough in everything I have ever seen you do, so you probably already have a way better plan than my quick brainstorm...  :goofy:

Do post pics as you're building it, we need a good project here to keep us dreaming about our own work spaces!

Is it too wet there for painted or epoxy floors?

I've been thinking about the same thing: running horizontal struts side to side along the house's wooden beams in addition to anchoring the verticals into them at the top.  That's a 4.3m span...  But, it also could be a great way to suspend lighting, air lines, etc.  

(I'm not sure what kind of floors I have at this point.  There's actually wood flooring in there now.  Not sure what's under it--more wood?  That's not a great for a garage!)

Given my space limitations and bike collection, I kinda have to do this, but how it will be done remains an open question.  I will definitely photograph my progress/downfall as I go!

Cheers,

JZH

St. Stephen, 7/2/2025 at 11:46 PM

I'm enjoying this thread, looking forward to all the other things you will figure out, and the final result.

Are the elevated motorcycle "shelves" really just for display, or do you intend to walk downstairs one morning, decide which bike is perfect for a ride that day, bring it down and zoom off?

It shouldn't take too much time to take a bike "off the shelf", but I don't know if I will ever have the luxury of choice like that.  I was thinking more about being able to take one down, prep and maybe do some work on it--as well as ride it for a while--before moving on to another one.

Ciao,

JZH

Terry, 7/3/2025 at 4:31 AM

What a fun project.

From an engineering perspective, the closer you sit the bike to the vertical supports, the lower the bending moment on the cantilever will be.

I do occasionally drive a counterbalance fork lift (I have a licence and everything!) and I can tell you that putting 1 tonne loads onto the third level of pallet racking takes some hand-eye coordination and a little nerve. You shouldn't have too many problems with your nifty lift truck as I expect the visibility will be much better. You will need to make sure the floor under your shelves is really smooth as the wheels look quite small. 

Let's hope it stays a "fun" project!  Floor smoothness requirement noted--thanks.

Ciao,

JZH

YoshiHNS, 7/4/2025 at 4:33 AM

As an engineer. No. Just....no.

Do not put that much moment on your walls. They're not designed for that.
Unistrut isn't really meant for doing what you want to do. That angle bracket especially. Its great for easy adjustments and quick builds. Not to hold motorcycles.

Figure out how you want to 'tray' the bikes. Make suitable 4 post rack. Use unistrut if you want, but use pallet rack would be easier. Can still anchor it to the wall for safety. Figure your real loading is more like 4x. 2x is considered 'sudden loading' for objects already in contact with each other.

'No' is not really what I wanted to hear, but reading on it sounds more like a 'maybe' to me!  One option I have considered (but hoped to avoid) was to convert the cantilevered shelves into a 4-post rack.  Unistrut is also available in deeper channels (61mm and 81mm), but that gets expensive real quick.  'Back-to-back' 41mm channels are also available.  But using any of them for the verticals forces the workbenches away from the wall--and I don't know if just using those struts would solve the 'moment' issue in any case.

A 4-post rack may be the least-worst solution.  I'd still have to work out the number of posts-per-bike, but that should be a fairly straightforward load (4x) calculation--and that could still allow me to position large equipment underneath (such as a lathe) if it were located "between bikes", so to speak.

* * *

Okay, so I've now looked at commercial pallet racks and I think that may actually be the way to go.  They are available here in a number of configurations, but most critically in 800mm deep versions with spans up to 3.6m!  I have 7m of wall, so I could fit a six-post pallet rack with two 3.3m spans, each of which is designed to support 1,100kg.  A fully laden VFR800 (the largest bike I would be racking) weighs less than 300kg, so I could store three of them with no issue--and only have one vertical post "in the way" down below.

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Something like this, but with the horizontal carriers moved all the way to the top.  (I've read that the loading and stability of "one-level" pallet racks are much reduced, so I'd have to brace it to the walls, at least.)  I'd also have to think about the shelf covering (if any)...

Thanks for your insight--critical comments are in many ways more valuable than encouraging ones!

Ciao,

JZH

If they’re rated for 1000kg as pallet shelves then you need to remove the point loads from the tyres, as the design is for a UDL

You were going to make a motorcycle pallet anyway; just make it so that it bridges the beams with some leeway. According to a local supplier, 3.2m span and 140mm deep beams has a load rating of 2746kg. That's plenty. But can you fit two bikes end-to-end in that bay? My gut feel is that you need more like 2m of shelf length. Maybe three x 2m bays would be best.

Well it's a great idea, I like it. As far as strength goes for steel shelving just remember how small the centre stands are on your bikes, it can support the full weight of the bike with a rider to boot. 
 

So it doesn't take much steel to take the weight. And diagonal braces will redirect the load into the wall affixed verticals, so no need of front support legs. 
 

Re the lifter legs, each bike should have one lift position, so you only need leg space equidistant from the balance point of each pallet/sled, so place your tools to suit!

If you only had a little more height...

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What about going 2x3 high (3x2?) on one side to leave the full wall open on the other side?

If you anchor the feet of the racks, and anchor to the wall, you should be fine with an extra beam on the wall side lower down. Another general principle is to not exceed beam deflection by (beam length)/180".

You want to be able ride them easily.

If not, look what our (deceased) club president did to his livingroom.

https://www.motor.nl/video/motormuseum-in-je-huiskamer/

13 hours ago, Dutchy

You want to be able ride them easily.

If not, look what our (deceased) club president did to his livingroom.

https://www.motor.nl/video/motormuseum-in-je-huiskamer/

I hope his wife likes doing the dusting.

Well this is interesting. Strangely enough I was only last night working out how my new shed (ground up build) needed to be laid out, and what I wanted to do in it. While sitting on the lounge, brainstorming with a glass of red wine, I came across this video. Bike wall storage at 5.25:

SO MANY GREAT SHED IDEAS - OUR MATE BRENTONS SHED TOUR

Not quite what you have in mind, but food for thought. This shed also has a sliding gantry with electric hoist, which is shown later in the video (used to get things up into the mezzanine areas).

Nice "shed"...  It's about twice the size of mine, but I saw some good ideas I think I might borrow!

Regarding the racking, I think I will be able to use the lower beams on the back sides, as Yoshi suggested, as well as bolting the feet to the floor and bolting the tops of the frames to the walls.  That should be that.  As for what goes onto the racks, I think I've got a solution:

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I went through a couple of designs, trying to minimise the expense of the materials as well as the cutting and welding operations I will need to do.  There's still a lot of steps to manufacture one of these, and I still have to do it 6-7 times...

The wheel chock parts (not drawn, because I'm not making them) come from this kind of Baxley knock-off:

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In laying out my motorbike carriers, since I have 6-7 of these wheel chocks already, I've measured and duplicated the locations where the M10 and M12 bolts go.  My bikes' wheelbases range from 1,440mm (the 5th gens) to 1,335mm (the NC35), and all the bikes' rear tyres sit basically in the middle of the steel plate at the back.  It's pretty secure, but I will probably also strap each bike wheel to the front vertical to make sure it can't go anywhere.  I was also thinking about welding some steel angle onto the plate at the rear, maybe 160mm apart, to help locate the rear tyres, but my bikes all have different sizes of tires, so one size won't fit all (in the same way).  Not sure it is necessary, anyway. 

The fork hoops look huge, but the forks on the pallet stacker are quite large (ca. 170x70), and I don't really want a tight fit.  I haven't actually measured the clearance between the bikes' bellypans/stands/exhausts and the forks that need to stick through, which I will do before I finalise this design. 

I decided to use the 60x60 c-channel, rather than the angle iron I had first used, mainly because of strength.  I will have to plasma cut them, but I can set up a jig to make that do-able.  This way, the channel just sits on top of the 50mm horizontal beams of the racks, and it will be very obvious when it has dropped into place.

I've provided for the fitting of 100kg casters, which should make these carriers more useful when down on the ground.  I wonder if I can make some sort of (removable) lifting device using the swing arm pivots, a la an ABBA Stand?  That would make them even more useful for chain adjustment, etc.  And I'd only need to make one, which I could pop into each carrier only when needed.

Any thoughts on my bike carrier frame design?  

Cheers,

JZH

8 hours ago, JZH

The fork hoops look huge, but the forks on the pallet stacker are quite large (ca. 170x70), and I don't really want a tight fit.  I haven't actually measured the clearance between the bikes' bellypans/stands/exhausts and the forks that need to stick through, which I will do before I finalise this design. 

Clearance for the forks will be at a premium, my Vtec's ground clearance is only 125mm per the manual. Every time I think of an idea to try I end up looking was puzzled as Nathan Fillion. Good luck, John.

Had to look that one up!  

Measuring is good: I have loads more to do.  I also have to re-design the carrier (again), because I forgot about my SXV550...  First world problems!  Unfortunately, it is longer and taller than the other bikes, which throws off some of my calculations.  Better to know now than later...

Ciao,

JZH

Slight update.  I've had the keys for a month, and I've been very busy doing painting and flooring to prepare for moving day in September.  I still need to speak to people about my options for the garage, but I think I will probably need to put in a new floor... 

I understand that under the tasteful wood flooring that's there now, there is only more wood, bricks and sand.  Not so good for either the pallet racks themselves or for moving around a 800kg pallet stacker carrying a 225kg motorcycle.   :sad:

On the other hand, pouring a whole new floor will make installing a recessed scissors lift (which is for the van, but could also be used for working on bikes) and water drainage much simpler.  Silver linings!

Ciao,

JZH

I'm too scared to open that link on my work computer, but I was quite taken with Pete "Maverick" Mitchell's accommodation in the last Top Gun...

[image: top gun maverick's house]

Terry, 11/9/2025 at 11:36 PM

[image: top gun maverick's house]

That's the garage of every man's dream 😎
NO, what am I saying? That's the main residence of every man's dream; if you have that, why moving elsewhere? 😁

And the bill for heating that place in winter  came in.....

Man Cave? No. Man hangar.

Santa (or is that Sinterklaas?) came early this year!

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After over a year in transit and storage (and importing company hassles), my yellow bike is finally in its new home in the Netherlands.  I hope the change in weather isn't too much of a shock for the old girl...

As this is the only bike I have here, and it's now officially winter, I think I will take this opportunity to finish the brake and suspension upgrades.  It's already cleared customs, so inspection and registration in NL can probably wait for a few months.  I have an SP1 front end (with a matching Pearl Yellow mudguard from some sort of CBR900RR, I believe) and will do the same de-linking and brake-line-through-the-swing-arm I did last year on the blue bike in London.  I'll also swap the Compufire reg/rec (don't ask) for a proper Shindengen SH847 and finally trim the RHS fairing to clear the supercharger belt.

However, I've noticed that the tires have great tread...but have a DOT code from 2008!

Ciao,

JZH

10 hours ago, JZH

my yellow bike is finally in its new home in the Netherlands

It's a Christmas miracle. Looking forward to reading about your adventures on the yellow peril.

Yellow Peril build thread!!?😛

May I suggest you avoid the RDW-station in Waddinxveen?

With an import from outside the EU, inspection is more thorough/involved.

I am not a gynecologist  but I know a C... when I see one..  :laugh:

21 hours ago, Lorne

It's a Christmas miracle. Looking forward to reading about your adventures on the yellow peril.

Sounds awesome! Can’t wait to hear all the wild stories from your Yellow Peril adventures—sounds like a fun ride!

Is the blue bike joining you in the NL? When is it going to get the SC treatment??

Saw this a minute ago and thought of this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DUVWf489P/?mibextid=wwXIfr

16 hours ago, Sweeper

Saw this a minute ago and thought of this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DUVWf489P/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Thanks.  I guess that proves my concept!  Obviously, I'm not going to buy high-end Australian garage equipment and have it shipped here, but I will have another look at their "docker" design to see if there's a simpler way to make my "cradles".  Great minds think alike...  Their "dockers" even incorporate front wheel cradles (albeit not the Baxley-type "pinch" version I'm gong to use).  How long have they been in business?  I wonder if they saw this thread last year!

I see they're using a standard Chinese "manual stacker", but I've found that electric ones aren't much more expensive.  I wouldn't really fancy foot-pumping a bike up 2m and then moving it manually into place.  Anyway, I've figured out a place to store an electric one (utilizing the otherwise useless space under the lower stairs on the other side of my garage's internal wall) which should make it all but disappear (lol).

I didn't see anywhere Moto Stacker has mentioned using pallet racks for storing the bikes?  Maybe they don't have high ceilings down in Oz...

("Blue Bro" will be converted at some point, but I will need to make some 5th gen bracketry for my 6th gen A&A kit.)

Ciao,

JZH

Busy Little Shop is officially my aircraft hanger and motorcycle stable... if I call it a garage Mary claims parking right for the Camaro...

Not quite the Top Gun hangar that Terry posted a picture of, but you've piqued my interest. So what is the aircraft? Presumably prop powered? Homebuilt. Microlight category? Aerobatic capable? Looks splendid. I've always been rather envious of you chaps in the US with so much freeish airspace

DrErgal, 11/11/2025 at 8:43 AM

That's the garage of every man's dream 😎
NO, what am I saying? That's the main residence of every man's dream; if you have that, why moving elsewhere? 😁

Not sure how I missed this, but I flew a P51 for an hour back in 2009. Still the best hour of my life 😁👍

15 minutes ago, Mohawk

Not sure how I missed this, but I flew a P51 for an hour back in 2009. Still the best hour of my life 😁👍

Ah, now there's bragging rights. You can't beat a bubble canopy, a lot of horsepower and free airspace!

7 hours ago, Presson

Not quite the Top Gun hangar that Terry posted a picture of, but you've piqued my interest. So what is the aircraft? Presumably prop powered? Homebuilt. Microlight category? Aerobatic capable? Looks splendid. I've always been rather envious of you chaps in the US with so much freeish airspace

Aviation and Money Episode 2: Hummel UltraCruiser ultralight airplane

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I've logged 2.5 hours in the Collings Foundation P51C Betty Jane among a gaggle of B25 B24
B17 from McClellan AFB to Minden Nevada...

I flew 1st class Cathay Pacific from Hongkong to Paris.......  :tongue:  

That's a cool little plane BLS. 

And now I need to apologise to JZH for hijacking his thread.