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Being a former Yosh intern, I have some biased brand loyalty. Shortly after I purchased my VFR, I started pricing exhausts. Much to my dismay, Yosh does not make an exhaust for the VTEC. What a huge letdown. I searched to see if anyone has adapted a kit, but found nothing. So I started searching - and came across the TRS kit for the '04-'06 Yamaha R1. It's like these cans were made for our bike!
I found an almost new set on Ebay for sub $400, and just got them in. Check it out.
Now, all I need to do is build a midpipe to adapt it to the cat. I have some collectrs and u-bends from back in the day, but I'm looking for something cleaner. [image: Posted Image]
I know I saw an aftermarket kit for the VTEC that is a midpipe with a true dual outlet. I can't remember if it was Micron or Staintune, but that would definately be the easiest way to go. If anyone knows who makes this midpipe let me know. If I can get a sweet deal on these pipes, I might start making adapter kits for the Yoshes if anyone else wants them.
I'll post a sound clip when it's finished. I can't wait!!!
Hmm, why no take the factory exhaust and cut the midpipe off? Would probably be your cheapest route even if you bought a used set on ebay in case you didn't want to cut yours up. I think it would look good but you might need to shorten them some from the picture above, which is also dependant on which y-pipe you use. Looking forward to result!
There is an over sea's company that makes them, its for the whole system, but they might sell just the mid pipe, not sure though. Their website is www. laserexhausts.com make sure if you type in the URL you get the "s" on the end for exhausts or you wont get to the site. Go to bikes and find the VFR800 fi/abs and it will list the 02. Make sure you pick the one that shows the ABS option the fi only will only go to 01.
[image: View Post]tinyminds, on May 12 2007, 10:14 PM, said:
Hmm, why no take the factory exhaust and cut the midpipe off? Would probably be your cheapest route even if you bought a used set on ebay in case you didn't want to cut yours up. I think it would look good but you might need to shorten them some from the picture above, which is also dependant on which y-pipe you use. Looking forward to result!
Thought about it, but since this is going to be a performance exhaust (plus for looks), I want larger diameter piping with the smooth look of an aftermarket pipe.
Yeah, I just bolted them up for pictures. They will be optimized for best fitment during the build.
Well, Hindle makes VTEC exhausts now, and they sell their midpipes seperately from their cans, so there you go, just order their midpipe. They make a great product. :thumbsup:
I don't recall for sure but I think it was sebspeed and I discussed via PM's about using R1 pipes last year. Before that I actively looked for yoshi tri-oval pipes on ebay to put on my second vtec. I wanted the dual outlet pipes. IMO, a better choice for the V4 but finding a left (dual system) was fruitless or very expensive. I went LeoVince instead, way more rare where I live.
You could always use the stock mid-pipe and cut the cans off but the Hindle idea sounds like a MUCH better alternative.
[image: View Post]FotoMoto, on May 13 2007, 10:43 AM, said:
I don't recall for sure but I think it was sebspeed and I discussed via PM's about using R1 pipes last year. Before that I actively looked for yoshi tri-oval pipes on ebay to put on my second vtec. I wanted the dual outlet pipes. IMO, a better choice for the V4 but finding a left (dual system) was fruitless or very expensive. I went LeoVince instead, way more rare where I live.
You could always use the stock mid-pipe and cut the cans off but the Hindle idea sounds like a MUCH better alternative.
Not sure Doug, it may have been SeadooLou, I think it was he who was looking into that. I was(and still am) planning to make an exhaust from scratch, I have the perfed cores welded up, I'll make the cans and endcaps in the future, even though I picked up a set of used Staintunes a few months ago. I think I will be using the Hindle midpipe as well, it will be much easier to modify than the stock pipe(starting with a known base material), and should yield much better performance. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the head's up on the Hindle midpipe. I just submitted an e-mail requesting specs. Pricing doesn't appear to be too bad ($400 CAD), I excepted to pay ~ $300US anyway.
I checked out the Leo Vince. It looks kind of weird with the two-piece midpipe that bolts to the passenger foot peg bracket. Plus, it looks like they taper the cans together. I still submitted an e-mail for specs and if they sell it separately, so we'll see.
[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on May 13 2007, 09:48 AM, said:
Not sure Doug, it may have been SeadooLou, I think it was he who was looking into that.
Yup, it was Lou. IIRC, he decided not to go with aftermarket R1's either but he was focusing on debaffled R1 stockers.
I have an extra mid-pipe from Laser's newest Extreme exhaust that's never been used. It's basically a 1-into-2 stainless steel midpipe from the cat. Could work perfect for this project. I'll take a pic of it and post it up later or you can just check my gallery as there are some close-ups there. Lemme know.
I have an extra mid-pipe from Laser's newest Extreme exhaust that's never been used. It's basically a 1-into-2 stainless steel midpipe from the cat. Could work perfect for this project. I'll take a pic of it and post it up later or you can just check my gallery as there are some close-ups there. Lemme know.
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I was under the impression that Lasers were 1 - 2 - 4. Do you have any pictures of just the midpipe? Thanks.
I checked out the Leo Vince. It looks kind of weird with the two-piece midpipe that bolts to the passenger foot peg bracket. Plus, it looks like they taper the cans together. I still submitted an e-mail for specs and if they sell it separately, so we'll see.
The LV's don't really taper together, as there is enough play where the curved Y pipe slips into the exhaust cans to adjust them. This is a rear shot of the LV's on my bike.
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And this one kind of shows the up-pipe, which has a mounting point to bolt onto the back of the passenger peg mounting plate.
I have an extra mid-pipe from Laser's newest Extreme exhaust that's never been used. It's basically a 1-into-2 stainless steel midpipe from the cat. Could work perfect for this project. I'll take a pic of it and post it up later or you can just check my gallery as there are some close-ups there. Lemme know.
I checked out the Leo Vince. It looks kind of weird with the two-piece midpipe that bolts to the passenger foot peg bracket. Plus, it looks like they taper the cans together. I still submitted an e-mail for specs and if they sell it separately, so we'll see.
The LV's don't really taper together, as there is enough play where the curved Y pipe slips into the exhaust cans to adjust them. This is a rear shot of the LV's on my bike.
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And this one kind of shows the up-pipe, which has a mounting point to bolt onto the back of the passenger peg mounting plate.
Well, I finally got a reply from Hindle (after a week). They don't have any pics or specs about the midpipe, just the material used. Weak sauce! I'm not about to spend $400 on something that I'm not sure will fit.
Thanks for the pics of the LVs. That shows more of what I'm looking for. I just need to find out if they sell the pipe separate.
Well I finally got around to postin some pics of just the Laser mid-pipe. There's plenty to look at so you should be able to see every angle. This mid-pipe basically splits 1-into-2 right after the cat and leaves you with two side-by-side connections for the pipes in the rear of the bike.
Being a former Yosh intern, I have some biased brand loyalty. Shortly after I purchased my VFR, I started pricing exhausts. Much to my dismay, Yosh does not make an exhaust for the VTEC. What a huge letdown. I searched to see if anyone has adapted a kit, but found nothing. So I started searching - and came across the TRS kit for the '04-'06 Yamaha R1. It's like these cans were made for our bike!
I found an almost new set on Ebay for sub $400, and just got them in. Check it out.
Now, all I need to do is build a midpipe to adapt it to the cat. I have some collectrs and u-bends from back in the day, but I'm looking for something cleaner. [image: Posted Image]
I know I saw an aftermarket kit for the VTEC that is a midpipe with a true dual outlet. I can't remember if it was Micron or Staintune, but that would definately be the easiest way to go. If anyone knows who makes this midpipe let me know. If I can get a sweet deal on these pipes, I might start making adapter kits for the Yoshes if anyone else wants them.
I'll post a sound clip when it's finished. I can't wait!!!
I notice that there's a big gap between the middle of the canisters and the seat faring. I guess that's why Honda had to bend the OEM canister to fill in that space. You might consider painting the stuff under the rear fender/tail all flat black to make less noticable and/or find a way to snug up the canister upward, closer to the fairing to minimize the gap.
Looks like something unique. You know you might as well go ahead and find some 5th gen catless headers since you have it apart anyways. And no, im not getting rid of mine.
Well I finally got around to postin some pics of just the Laser mid-pipe. There's plenty to look at so you should be able to see every angle. This mid-pipe basically splits 1-into-2 right after the cat and leaves you with two side-by-side connections for the pipes in the rear of the bike.
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I like it!!! It means more welding for me, but bringing the left pipe up the inside eliminates that crazy U-bend up top. PM me with a price and we'll set something up. Thanks.
Regarding the fifth gen headers, yeah that's another thing that's dragging this project out. I'm doing this right - catless headers and a PCIII. It all adds to the price tag. Plus finding catless headers (the dealer wants $700) is an endeavour all on it's own. I wish people would stop out-bidding me on Ebay. :goofy:
[image: View Post]SGVridgerunner, on Jul 28 2007, 01:56 AM, said:
Check it out! First pipe is fitted, I need one U-bend to complete the second, but I now have correct diameters. Thanks to Metalhedd for the collector! :thumbsup:
Video to come
Can't wait to hear it! :thumbsup:
I see you repainted the bike pink in the meantime too? :P
[image: View Post]SGVridgerunner, on Jul 28 2007, 12:56 AM, said:
Check it out! First pipe is fitted, I need one U-bend to complete the second, but I now have correct diameters. Thanks to Metalhedd for the collector! :thumbsup:
No prob Dave. I see you got everything mocked-up pretty quick. I'm glad I came across an awesome exhaust thread like this and could actually offer some assistance. I'll reiterate what I said in the PM since I'd pretty much end up sayin the same thing and I know how we all worship the VFR around here anyway so here we go...
MetalHedd, on Jul 20 2007, 10:26 PM, said:
I just wanted to say that your project to get a Yosh exhaust on the VFR is exemplary of the excellent modders that we have on this site. I'm a big fan of Yosh and I gotta admit that I was impressed when I couldn't find a product in their catalog for our 6th gen VFRs. That fact alone is gonna make your Viffer one of the coolest ones out there. Enjoy it man and I look forward to seeing how this whole project turns out.
So with that said... let's get this project rollin man. We all want to see and more importantly HEAR how this all turns out!
Yeah, my wife called me at work the day the collector arrived. I almost bailed early. As soon as I got home the exhaust was off and I was fitting. The wife was a little upset as she was planning to go riding, and came out to a half-dismantled bike, but I told it will be for the better soon.
I'll be ordering the pipe from Burn's on Monday, and I was told that an old buddy from college has a nice TIG welder in his garage. Once I get him scheduled, this thing should fly together.
http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/sad.gif too bad no one makes a decent set of pipes for the VTEC without leaving a gaping space under the seat
Alright, first let me apologize to everyone for this dragging out so long. There have been <cough> issues that I don't want to get into. Now on to the good news, IT'S DONE!!!!!!!!!!!
It sounds better than I expected and looks fantastic! It took it to bike night tonight and already had a ton of comments. No longer will I be the only VFRD member on a group ride with a stock exhaust!!!!
It came out great, the two pipes are almost equal length and the pressure out of each can feels about the same.
Here is a quick video I took with a digital camera. I am working on setting up a day to do some comparison runs vs. stock and open header. I will post up a more detailed video then.
http://www.youtube.com/v/4sRweJNMc4o
As far as power goes, I'm definately moving more air because the bike feels like it's running leaner. VTEC transition is much harsher and throttle response isn't as good. This is a good sign, which makes me think I'll be making some decent power over stock once I get a PCIII and a proper map. Once that is all finished, I'll post up some dyno graphs.
Looks good Dave, good work :thumbsup: . I wanted to hear it but the video doesn't seem to be working. I agree with you, the pcIII will help the lean condition. After you get a PCIII I would be intrerested in knowing how your fuel economy is affected.
I was so lookin forward to hearin those Yosh sing. The video is down tho. I'm patient so I can wait til Dave gets a better one up. It'll be the first time anyone's ever heard a Yosh on the 6th gen VFR so we've been patient this long. Could also be the only time we'll hear it as the 6th gen is obviously at the end of its cycle and it wouldn't make sense for Yosh to put out an exhaust system now.
I do have to say those pipes look good on the bike. It really looks like they could have been made for the Viffer. I would maybe like to see them a little shorter if Yosh actually woulda made them for the bike, but that's being really picky and they still look good the way they are. I know it may be a little late now, but did you consider running the second pipe that goes to the left exhaust up along the first pipe and the rounding it in like the Laser system and Staintunes do it? The reason I ask is the rear wheel may rub on the exhaust pipe which we all know is really hot and probably not a good thing long term. I'll post some pics below which may help explain what I'm tryin to say.
The pipes run in parallel from the 1-into-2 cat-back split to the cans.
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This undertail shot shows the pipe routing a little better underneath.
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Really Nice work with the Yoshis. Congratulations on getting it all done!, but that vertically mounted reg tag looks really bad IMO. I thought only "Hardly" riders do that kind of thing!
Really Nice work with the Yoshis. Congratulations on getting it all done!, but that vertically mounted reg tag looks really bad IMO. I thought only "Hardly" riders do that kind of thing!
Beck 95 VFR
Hey, I like the inverted plate. And no, it's not just for Harley riders, squids do that a lot too. Wait...that's not any better...CRAP!
I agree though, that an inverted plate would look better mounted on the SSA. It would show off the pipes more.
I was so lookin forward to hearin those Yosh sing. The video is down tho.
I do have to say those pipes look good on the bike. It really looks like they could have been made for the Viffer. I would maybe like to see them a little shorter if Yosh actually woulda made them for the bike, but that's being really picky and they still look good the way they are. I know it may be a little late now, but did you consider running the second pipe that goes to the left exhaust up along the first pipe and the rounding it in like the Laser system and Staintunes do it? The reason I ask is the rear wheel may rub on the exhaust pipe which we all know is really hot and probably not a good thing long term. I'll post some pics below which may help explain what I'm tryin to say.
I don't know what is going with youtube. I've tried twice, it confirms upload, then never shows. I'm still trying to figure this out.
As far as the left pipe goes, I designed it more for pure performance and uniqueness than packaging. There is some very light rubbing of the tire at low preload settings, but up the preload for performance riding and the rubbing stops. I also had to put heat tape on the plastic near the 30A fuse holder. If I had my own TIG welder and cut-off saw, I would have put more effort onto packaging, but I did this with a Dremel, and duct tape, then took it to a place to weld. It actually came out great considering.
You're right about Yoshi missing out on producing this back in '04+. There's very little effort/material to adapt this to a VFR. They could have easily competed with Staintunes and 2 Bros. And made a heafty profit at even $700. I made this for less than $500 including the full R1 system. With a proven design and jig the costs could fall to around $300, depending on what one could get the cans for. Speaking of which, if I could get enough interest to justify buying a TIG, I'd revamp the piping and produce kits. Even if it's just a kit to adapt the cans to your existing aftermarket midpipe. I'd like to see more of these cans on VFR's, they fit the body lines so well.
Now, who thinks I should polish the midpipe or black it out?
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