I thought it best to post this as a separate thread so people can refer to it if necessary without having to wade through my drivel on other threads!
Anyway, I promised I'd post some proper consumption figures when I got some. Yesterday I went out with Trevor Franklin from [the UK weekly publication] Motorcycle News. He had one VFR with 2k miles on the clock and I had mine, with about 200 miles on it.
We rode most of the day on A roads, dual carriageways, motorways and a bit of stop start town riding. In fact it was pretty much a good representation of my regular riding. We were not hanging around either.
Trevor achieved a figure of 46.85mpg on his run-in machine and I got 46.67mpg. That gives us tank ranges (assuming the 18.5 litre capacity and my calculations being correct) of 190.6 and 189.9 respectively. I am quoting imperial gallon figures as opposed to US gallons.
I'm up to just over 500 miles now so things should be settling down now I guess.
Your other postings certainly aren't drivel for those of us looking for real world experience with the 1200. Hmmm, just under 200 miles, might have to carry a MSR bottle with some extra "just-in-case" juice but it's sounding better all the time. Let us know if the milage goes up as it gets broke in. Although yours and the one with 2000 miles are awful close!
Thanks again for the info. :warranty:
If I've done my math right, that would be ~39mpg on a US gallon. That's on par with my 6th gen. Too bad the tank is smaller.
[quote name='Cynic' date='20 February 2010 -
Trevor achieved a figure of 46.85mpg on his run-in machine and I got 46.67mpg.[/quote]
Let's see, 1 imperial gallon = 1.2 'merican gallons. So 46.67 miles per imperial gallon = 38.9 miles per US gallon. This is better than I expected and this figure should improve somewhat as the engine breaks in.
For the non-metricated amongst us, that equates to 304kms, and I am assuming that these are full-empty projections. On that basis the bike falls about 100kms (60 miles) short of the full-empty figures that I can achieve with my 4th Gen.
Same, 400 Kilometres is easily achieved on my 4th gen, but I "could" live with 300k's, if thats from full to MT and includes some shall we say "spirited" riding. :biggrin:
I wonder if putting an air compressor on the tank and just "blowing" it up a bit is an option. :idea3:
The fuel consumption is not bad at all :fing02: Still a little larger fuel tank would be desirable.
[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 22 February 2010 - 07:11 AM, said:
The fuel consumption is not bad at all :fing02: Still a little larger fuel tank would be desirable.
I am looking into my crystal ball and can see the Power Commander maps, experimenting with different spark plugs, K&N filters in the future for this thread... Posted Image
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 20 February 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:
For the non-metricated amongst us, that equates to 304kms, and I am assuming that these are full-empty projections. On that basis the bike falls about 100kms (60 miles) short of the full-empty figures that I can achieve with my 4th Gen.
Yeah the VTEC will get around that if you're careful as well. Which I rarely am :biggrin: So I'm normally looking to fill up by 350...
Those figures also assume you could use every drop in the tank, which isn't realistic. So probably at somewhere around the 280 mark you're really going to need to stop and fill up if you don't want to risk pushing the damn thing. This is pretty much the conclusion we'd all come to already, and for me, that's about 50 short of what I'd like.
Maybe
these guys will make something. Not cheap though...
[image: View Post]kirbster, on 24 February 2010 - 01:18 AM, said:
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 20 February 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:
For the non-metricated amongst us, that equates to 304kms, and I am assuming that these are full-empty projections. On that basis the bike falls about 100kms (60 miles) short of the full-empty figures that I can achieve with my 4th Gen.
Yeah the VTEC will get around that if you're careful as well. Which I rarely am :biggrin: So I'm normally looking to fill up by 350...
Those figures also assume you could use every drop in the tank, which isn't realistic. So probably at somewhere around the 280 mark you're really going to need to stop and fill up if you don't want to risk pushing the damn thing. This is pretty much the conclusion we'd all come to already, and for me, that's about 50 short of what I'd like.
Maybe
these guys will make something. Not cheap though...
Interesting. They don't list any VFR tanks atm, probably because most owners are happy with the tankage they have.
Maybe the upcoming touring version of the VF1200 will have a bigger tank? :mellow:
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[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 24 February 2010 - 04:42 AM, said:
Interesting. They don't list any VFR tanks atm, probably because most owners are happy with the tankage they have.
Good luck getting it painted. Honda's so-called "patented painting technology" on the new VFR1200 could mean any damage means a replacement part, and that aftermarket parts may never match!
[image: View Post]Trevor, on 21 February 2010 - 09:51 PM, said:
Same, 400 Kilometres is easily achieved on my 4th gen
Guys I just don't know how you do that. Does that include *any* twisting of the throttle??
It's possible, I've done over 400 before a few times. Depends on the type of riding - usually long days on two-lane highways.
It's usually a twist and forget it ;)
You can see that even with a mix of highway and city riding, my fuelly calculator below is in the high 30s. No problem as long as you don't have a lead weight around your wrist. :wheel:
[image: View Post]kaldek, on 24 March 2010 - 04:43 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Trevor, on 21 February 2010 - 09:51 PM, said:
Same, 400 Kilometres is easily achieved on my 4th gen
Guys I just don't know how you do that. Does that include *any* twisting of the throttle??
And for those of us using the metric system, and if my calculations are right, it's about 6.02 l/100km. Not bad, but my wife's Civic is about that too. I expected a bit less, but it is a 1200 after all. In any case, it's a lot better than what that guy in the video going to Dakar achieved (8-9 l/100km?!??!).
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I can get 200 miles out of my VF1000R tank.
............ and it's a sport bike. :blink:
[image: View Post]Chev, on 25 March 2010 - 07:43 AM, said:
I can get 200 miles out of my VF1000R tank.
............ and it's a sport bike. :blink:
Sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but the big cushy VFR1200 will probably embarass your sport bike in any measure of performance, braking or handling.
[image: View Post]phobe, on 25 March 2010 - 07:53 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Chev, on 25 March 2010 - 07:43 AM, said:
I can get 200 miles out of my VF1000R tank.
............ and it's a sport bike. :blink:
Sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but the big cushy VFR1200 will probably embarass your sport bike in any measure of performance, braking or handling.
Just can't get me in range.......... :goofy:
Just finished up my second tank of fuel on my 1200. First tank 39.4 mpg. Second 41.2 mpg......
[image: View Post]tmausti, on 13 April 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:
Just finished up my second tank of fuel on my 1200. First tank 39.4 mpg. Second 41.2 mpg......
I just checked my first tank and averaged 41 mpg on my new Gen 7 as well...........
I have now had 3 full tank fillups since my break in was completed. 38 mpg average using the entire RPM range and running the bike more aggressively. Looks like this will be the norm for the bike.
[image: View Post]tmausti, on 27 April 2010 - 06:19 PM, said:
I have now had 3 full tank fillups since my break in was completed. 38 mpg average using the entire RPM range and running the bike more aggressively. Looks like this will be the norm for the bike.
Thanks for that. And what does that translate into in terms of "real world" fuel range from the 18.5 litre tank?
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 27 April 2010 - 06:22 PM, said:
[image: View Post]tmausti, on 27 April 2010 - 06:19 PM, said:
I have now had 3 full tank fillups since my break in was completed. 38 mpg average using the entire RPM range and running the bike more aggressively. Looks like this will be the norm for the bike.
Thanks for that. And what does that translate into in terms of "real world" fuel range from the 18.5 litre tank?
at 38mpg, 185miles/18.5liters.
that is about what i get now on my 6th gen/tank.
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 27 April 2010 - 06:43 PM, said:
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 27 April 2010 - 06:22 PM, said:
[image: View Post]tmausti, on 27 April 2010 - 06:19 PM, said:
I have now had 3 full tank fillups since my break in was completed. 38 mpg average using the entire RPM range and running the bike more aggressively. Looks like this will be the norm for the bike.
Thanks for that. And what does that translate into in terms of "real world" fuel range from the 18.5 litre tank?
at 38mpg, 185miles/18.5liters.
that is about what i get now on my 6th gen/tank.
OK, thanks. That still falls well short of the 380+kms I can get from a tank on my 4th Gen.
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 27 April 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:
OK, thanks. That still falls well short of the 380+kms I can get from a tank on my 4th Gen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
You must ride like an old lady to get that kind of mileage. Crack the throttle and lean it over some, will you?
The way you're riding you should be on an ST1300!! :laugh:
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 27 April 2010 - 06:43 PM, said:
at 38mpg, 185miles/18.5liters.
that is about what i get now on my 6th gen/tank.
Yes, 185 miles to empty is about all I see on my 5G as well while having some fun.
[image: View Post]MattB, on 28 April 2010 - 08:45 AM, said:
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 27 April 2010 - 06:43 PM, said:
at 38mpg, 185miles/18.5liters.
that is about what i get now on my 6th gen/tank.
Yes, 185 miles to empty is about all I see on my 5G as well while having some fun.
I can go 225 on my 5th gen and I don't spare the whip. The 800cc motor gives me all the power I need as most of the roads I travel are 55MPH, and on the freeway it doesn't take much power to cruise at even 75MPH. Short of the racetrack 800cc have always been more than enough for me.
Losing 40 miles of range for 50+ lbs of fatty worthless techfarkles, and 400 more cc's of engine that I don't need or want, doesn't sound like a very good trade-off.
I think I'll be keeping what I have until Honda comes back to its senses and builds a bike I'd actually want to ride even if they gave it to me free. (See how I don't bring up the exorbitant price or the automatic transmission...)
[image: View Post]Cynic, on 20 February 2010 - 01:31 PM, said:
I thought it best to post this as a separate thread so people can refer to it if necessary without having to wade through my drivel on other threads!
Anyway, I promised I'd post some proper consumption figures when I got some. Yesterday I went out with Trevor Franklin from [the UK weekly publication] Motorcycle News. He had one VFR with 2k miles on the clock and I had mine, with about 200 miles on it.
We rode most of the day on A roads, dual carriageways, motorways and a bit of stop start town riding. In fact it was pretty much a good representation of my regular riding. We were not hanging around either.
Trevor achieved a figure of 46.85mpg on his run-in machine and I got 46.67mpg. That gives us tank ranges (assuming the 18.5 litre capacity and my calculations being correct) of 190.6 and 189.9 respectively. I am quoting imperial gallon figures as opposed to US gallons.
I'm up to just over 500 miles now so things should be settling down now I guess.
I got just over 30 mpg my first tank, course I have _never_ been accused of having a light touch, and am halfway through my second tank with 184 miles on the bike.
Sport Rider reported about 135 miles range to reserve on a tank. Dunno if I would want to handle that.
[image: View Post]kaldek, on 27 April 2010 - 07:18 PM, said:
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 27 April 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:
OK, thanks. That still falls well short of the 380+kms I can get from a tank on my 4th Gen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
You must ride like an old lady to get that kind of mileage. Crack the throttle and lean it over some, will you?
The way you're riding you should be on an ST1300!! :laugh:
Unless you've seen me ride I suggest you refrain from commenting on my riding style, you just make yourself look more and more foolish.
Worth noting: as my engine breaks in, there has been a very noticeable and sudden improvement in mileage. I've ridden it just over 1000Kms, and it recently jumped from 30.7 to 37 MPG.... and still improving. I took about a 400 mile highway ride yesterday with my speed varying between 80 and 105MPH.
[image: View Post]phobe, on 01 May 2010 - 08:11 AM, said:
Worth noting: as my engine breaks in, there has been a very noticeable and sudden improvement in mileage. I've ridden it just over 1000Kms, and it recently jumped from 30.7 to 37 MPG.... and still improving. I took about a 400 mile highway ride yesterday with my speed varying between 80 and 105MPH.
That's encouraging.
as for the range and mileage that others are listing, My 5th gen is
NOT leaps and bounds better than that.
Yeah if I'm out on the slab trying to get to someplace to ride good roads and it's a long ride, I can settle in and get low to mid 40's (44-45 on warm days, 41-42 on cold days).
If I'm riding with a couple other VFR owners, and we're on the pace on twisty roads, then we all get around 37-39 mpg (4th, 5th, 6th generations really doesn't seem to matter, we all get about that mileage).
Heck the one time we missed a gas opportunity only to to find the next one on the gps was closed, we all were riding conservatively. We all got some pretty high numbers out of that last tank, challenging ourselves to make the last gas last to the next gas station. Oh, yeah Matt had to push Rich's 4th gen up the hill to the station as it ran out gas at the base of the hill.
I think that just like any other bike the new VFR1200 will be all right with that size tank and the range it gets.
Should be interesting to see if the range can be noticeably increased with a power commander V and the autotune.
[image: View Post]skivfr1, on 13 April 2010 - 10:07 PM, said:
[image: View Post]tmausti, on 13 April 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:
Just finished up my second tank of fuel on my 1200. First tank 39.4 mpg. Second 41.2 mpg......
I just checked my first tank and averaged 41 mpg on my new Gen 7 as well...........
Did you have it running? (J/K!)
[image: View Post]kaldek, on 27 April 2010 - 07:18 PM, said:
[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 27 April 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:
OK, thanks. That still falls well short of the 380+kms I can get from a tank on my 4th Gen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
You must ride like an old lady to get that kind of mileage. Crack the throttle and lean it over some, will you?
The way you're riding you should be on an ST1300!! :laugh:
Have you ridden a ST1300? They are surprisingly quick and turn far better milage then the VFR does. I got 48-49mpg on the highway, doing anything from 65-95 indicated with traffic. Around town, it would return 42-43mpg whether I rung its neck or babied it. And, I had the thing wheelie on me (just enough to lose front tire contact) more then once and I wasn't even remotly trying to lift the front.
Yeah, I kinda miss my ST1300
As you use it more your bike will show more consistent mileage/fuel economy on Fuelly.
You're filling up with just over half a tank used. When you have more data or start filling up later you'll see that the Fuelly average is much more accurate.
My bike didn't see a lot of mid-40s fuel economy until after 20,000 kilometres.
[image: View Post]phobe, on 01 May 2010 - 08:11 AM, said:
Worth noting: as my engine breaks in, there has been a very noticeable and sudden improvement in mileage. I've ridden it just over 1000Kms, and it recently jumped from 30.7 to 37 MPG.... and still improving. I took about a 400 mile highway ride yesterday with my speed varying between 80 and 105MPH.