8 Spoke/price

What is the going price for a 8 spoke rear wheel? Anyone have one for sale?

Yeah Me TOO !!!!

Within the last few months, I've seen them go as low as $150 and as high as $550 depending on condition. A fair average would be the $250-$300 range in my opinion.

Second the 250-300, though last couple I've seen on ebay went for >400. A bit hard to find too since it seems everybody's looking for them (wouldn't mind one myself)

Only one on ebay right now is $499 scratched!

$675 new from Honda.

Traded my stock wheel + $150 for my 8 spoker. Spent another $50 powdercoating it black.

Sweet. I'm wondering when my rear wheel will be worth more than the rest of the bike.

[image: View Post]huskysooner, on 11 May 2010 - 11:27 AM, said:

Sweet. I'm wondering when my rear wheel will be worth more than the rest of the bike.


:goofy:

[image: View Post]tinyminds, on 11 May 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

Traded my stock wheel + $150 for my 8 spoker. Spent another $50 powdercoating it black.

I've heard the wheel fits happily (at least on a 5th gen) but is it the same sized tyre as the 5th/6th gen? If so, is anyone noticing detrimental handling changes on 8-spoke mod'd 5th/6th gens?

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 11 May 2010 - 11:50 AM, said:

[image: View Post]tinyminds, on 11 May 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

Traded my stock wheel + $150 for my 8 spoker. Spent another $50 powdercoating it black.

I've heard the wheel fits happily (at least on a 5th gen) but is it the same sized tyre as the 5th/6th gen? If so, is anyone noticing detrimental handling changes on 8-spoke mod'd 5th/6th gens?

I believe the 3rd/5th/6th gen all have a 5.5 inch rim (180 tire), only the 4th gen got the 5in

boys boys boys LOL I sold mine a couple of weeks
ago to a guy for 280 plus shipping.
if I get my way I'll sell the other one I have for the same price
but ( seb )I need my ass kissed first
:laughing6-hehe:
woot woot :goofy:

oh yeah the rim is 5.5 and I ALWAYS run a 180.
I swapped out the rear end (axle&eccentric assembly) to run a 5.5 inch rim from triumph
I'm running a 190 and love the change.

[image: View Post]mrmatt, on 11 May 2010 - 12:00 PM, said:

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 11 May 2010 - 11:50 AM, said:

[image: View Post]tinyminds, on 11 May 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

Traded my stock wheel + $150 for my 8 spoker. Spent another $50 powdercoating it black.

I've heard the wheel fits happily (at least on a 5th gen) but is it the same sized tyre as the 5th/6th gen? If so, is anyone noticing detrimental handling changes on 8-spoke mod'd 5th/6th gens?

I believe the 3rd/5th/6th gen all have a 5.5 inch rim (180 tire), only the 4th gen got the 5in

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So what was the time frame for the 8 spoke?

[image: View Post]coderighter, on 11 May 2010 - 12:36 PM, said:

So what was the time frame for the 8 spoke?


90-93. In the USA, each year had a new color: white, gold(ish), silver, and black. White seems to be the most prevalent since it was offered at least twice in that time frame.

[image: View Post]taglicious, on 11 May 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

boys boys boys LOL I sold mine a couple of weeks
ago to a guy for 280 plus shipping.
if I get my way I'll sell the other one I have for the same price
but ( seb )I need my ass kissed first
:laughing6-hehe:
woot woot :goofy:

oh yeah the rim is 5.5 and I ALWAYS run a 180.
I swapped out the rear end (axle assembly) to run a 6 inch rim
so I can run a 190 and love the change.


I can do 280, but this is the best I can do on the ass kiss :comp13: PM me.

[image: View Post]taglicious, on 11 May 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

I swapped out the rear end (axle assembly) to run a 6 inch rim
so I can run a 190 and love the change.

Do you have a thread on the swap? I'd be interested to see what you did, I found a Speed Triple hub/axle and Monster/Multistrada wheel works for me with some spacers, but it's still a 5.5 rim

I am using the Sprint St 1050 rear on this = 5.5" rim and I can tell you it handles perfect :computer-noworky:

I don't but I can show you and if you need help I can walk you through it.
I never take pictures when I'm working on it I just sit down and start till I'm done...

I'm not much of a multi tasker as you can tell :beatdeadhorse:
here's how she looks after 2000 miles last week
(shh I wasn't suppose to be ridng) ;-)


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I'm using parenthesis since I can't remember until I get back out there what the sizes are sorry guys)

first jack bike up with rear wheel still touching ground and secure it by the bars or mid frame.
start by loosening/not removing the cush drive nutside first! *should be able to move with hands*
it's not necessary to remove this side. - *you have a choice as to removing the chainguard-you decide-
now remove the exhaust (you may/may not have to remove the right side rider peg/mount (8mm I think)I do it to make life easier - to get to the (12mm on some 14mm on others)2 exhaust bolts(loosen don't remove until you have the passenger mount area bolt lossened)then you can remove them all from front of exhaust to the back.
now loosen and remove the wheel lugs (3/4) on the wheel itself.
SLOWLY jack bike up so the wheel comes off the ground.
remove wheel.
now loosen the rear brake caliper *there are (2) bolts on the brake mounting plate-those are what you un-bolt)(12mm) With the main bolt still attached '''pick-up''' the brake caliper to move it out of the way *simple procedure*.
now the rotor is free to come off.
With the rotor now off, take a 17mm socket - deep well - and loosen/do not remove the chain adjust bolt so it's 'hand moveable'
using the chain adjust wrench, move the adjuster either way to loosen the chain to its max slack.
use a block of wood (4x4)to prop up the [b DO NOT FORGET THIS AS YOU'LL NEED IT TO PUT THE NEW AXLE ON AS WELL** [/b]cush drive/chain + maybe even have a rope tied to the ride side passenger pegs mount laying over the seat to the left so you can tie the cush drive in place *'hangin freely'*
after that is securely held... remove the axle with a rubber mallet to the right side of the bike(not dead blow) it's safer. lol
install the triumph 1050 axle EXACTLY the same way you removed your stock one. rotors/nut/and spacers are interchangeable(even the eccentric is if you want to use a newer one ;-)
***check other postings in this thread... I forgot I changed out my eccentric to match the triumph ID... it's 5mm smaller on the non drive side***

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pic 1 - cush drive nut
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pic 2 - right rider set
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pic 3 - exhaust bolts
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pic 4 - exhaust hanger bolt
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pic 5 - wheel lugs
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pic 6 - caliper bolts (2)
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pic 7 - main caliper holding bolt DO NOT REMOVE THIS
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pic 8 - hub tightening bolt
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If you guys need me to I can tear both bikes apart again so you can see each step.

(time consuming but if so please let me know and give me a couple of days - it's really nice out here) ;-)

Matt, per our previous conversation with SA1713, the 6" wheel wouldn't fit the 4th gen arm. I'll bet it fits the third gen because of the difference in arms. It wouldn't be simple to swap a 3rd gen arm into a 4th either, because the shock mount is offset.

^^^ SEB I believe that. I forgot the 4th gen went 5mm shorter and has the dogbone instead of the knuckle.
plus the 4th gen is shorter in width than th 3rd you just don't wanna do that type of grinding in that spot... :mellow:

:fing02: I love the way this thing feels man... using all the front tire, and all the rear... WOW

If I remember correctly, the Triumph 5 spoke split rear wheel is a 5.5 and their 3 spoke is a 6.

I was going to run the 5 spoke split or their multi "flower" pattern multi spoke as both are 5.5.

[image: View Post]sa1713, on 16 May 2010 - 07:51 AM, said:

If I remember correctly, the Triumph 5 spoke split rear wheel is a 5.5 and their 3 spoke is a 6.

I was going to run the 5 spoke split or their multi "flower" pattern multi spoke as both are 5.5.


After a little research, I found that the 3-spoke runs 190 tires while the flower and split spoke wheels run 180's, so it would seem you are correct.

I'm gonna have to check on that today then?

I put the 190 on without tire levers. just popped right on... ?

thanks for the insight... I'm definately checking into that today... :pinocchio:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 15 May 2010 - 02:44 PM, said:

Matt, per our previous conversation with SA1713, the 6" wheel wouldn't fit the 4th gen arm. I'll bet it fits the third gen because of the difference in arms. It wouldn't be simple to swap a 3rd gen arm into a 4th either, because the shock mount is offset.

Ah, hadn't thought of that. I can actually compare when I get home since I have one of each (from an unfortunate ebay purchase).

Thanks for the description, did you find the alignment to be correct on the axle and wheel? When I did mine it looked like the chain side needed 2.5mm out and the wheel side 5mm out to get centered up. I've been meaning to check alignment on mine for a while but haven't done it yet.

(maybe we should make this a different thread)

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 16 May 2010 - 08:05 AM, said:

[image: View Post]sa1713, on 16 May 2010 - 07:51 AM, said:

If I remember correctly, the Triumph 5 spoke split rear wheel is a 5.5 and their 3 spoke is a 6.

I was going to run the 5 spoke split or their multi "flower" pattern multi spoke as both are 5.5.


After a little research, I found that the 3-spoke runs 190 tires while the flower and split spoke wheels run 180's, so it would seem you are correct.

yup yup and yup...
the newer are in fact 5.5. I guess the older (90's) are 6" 3 spoke... DAMN ;-) LOL
see what happens when excitement gets the better of ya?! HA HAA :fing02:

So was the wheel width the main roadblock from doing this mod to a 4th gen? If so I'll be looking for a Speed Triple hub and wheel.

[image: View Post]fastbroshi, on 17 May 2010 - 02:56 PM, said:

So was the wheel width the main roadblock from doing this mod to a 4th gen? If so I'll be looking for a Speed Triple hub and wheel.

A 5.5 with 180 tire should work with a 4th gen, I matched up the Speed Triple hub with a Multistrada wheel, but looked like I needed the wheel to go out about 5mm (now I have to always say I haven't checked alignment, but its worked for 8000mi+)
The tire is quite close to the swingarm though, I wouldn't think a 190 will fit
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hey guys... A question was brought up to me about the axle/wheel swap recently...

I completely forgot about it...

the STOCK VFR eccentric is 5mm bigger in the I.D. diameter of the non drive side only...

I forgot that I did change out the entire eccentrics when I did that... (explains where the *spare* VFR eccentrics came from)

sorry for not showing this on there as well...

The eight spoke is a darn good looking rim, but it is also the heaviest of the VFR rims. From a pure performance stand point, this what blocked me from considering this rim. (Adding a 190 tire to an already heavy wheel assembly would seem counterproductive, however, I do not know the actual weight of the Triumph rim/190 tire assembly)

I know some folks will consider this view as ludicrous, but after spending so much time, money and effort into stripping weight off of the rear components and the rolling assembly of my 6g, I couldn't see packing the extra weight back on just for looks.

BE CAREFUL!!!!! I can not stress enough that you should inspect the wheel IN PERSON before buying one if you can. The only BAD experience I have had on this site was a well known member that has in the past sold a few 8 spoke wheels here. The first wheel he sent me was damaged in a way it could not be repaired. This member claimed the wheel only needed paint. Of course I paid and POLISHED it before finding out that the entire wheel was bent out of round and off center. I asked to return it and got a VERY BAD attitude about dealing with the problem. He claimed not to have a replacement or my money to return [even though he had 2 completely good 8 spoke wheels listed for sale.] I offered to pay extra but he was unwilling to send me one of the good wheels. Finally after he went scrap yard hunting He sent me a wheel that was so pitted and damaged from oxidation I could not polish it. Also the replacement had damage from coming in contact with the rear brake caliper. So $350 for a rim $250 for a polish job and in the end I got nothing..... but 2 broken or damaged rims. So i am going to make end tables out of them LOL. Or at least hang on to them until I need something heavy to weight down the body of the next thief I come in contact with. PLEASE do not ask me that members name as it was made clear to me by a moderator that I can not share it under the threat of a ban. :blink: Oh well stuff happens just be aware.

[image: View Post]taglicious, on 22 August 2010 - 11:45 AM, said:

hey guys... A question was brought up to me about the axle/wheel swap recently...

I completely forgot about it...

the STOCK VFR eccentric is 5mm bigger in the I.D. diameter of the non drive side only...

I forgot that I did change out the entire eccentrics when I did that... (explains where the *spare* VFR eccentrics came from)

sorry for not showing this on there as well...


I did some digging and found some bearings that could be used to put a Triumph rear axle to a VFR eccentric.
The stock VFR bearing is 50X62X25 according to davidsilverspares.com (part number 91062-MR7-003)
The Triumph bearing is 45X55X20 according to bikebandit.com fiche. So the Triumph axle diameter is 5mm smaller.

NKI4525 Needle Roller Bearing With Shaft Sleeve 45x62x25mm
http://simplybearing...oduct_info.html
It does have a inner sleeve but I think it should still work.

If not you could use this instead with a 5mm spacer since this is 5 narrower than the stock VFR bearing:
RPNA4562 Needle Roller Bearing Alignment Type Without Shaft Sleeve 45x62x20
http://simplybearing...oduct_info.html

Also the axle assembly seems to be the same in a variety of Triumph bikes:

1997 Triumph DAYTONA
1997 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
1998 Triumph DAYTONA
1998 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
1999 Triumph DAYTONA
1999 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
1999 Triumph SPRINT ST
2000 Triumph DAYTONA
2000 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2000 Triumph SPRINT ST
2001 Triumph DAYTONA
2001 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2001 Triumph SPRINT ST
2002 Triumph DAYTONA
2002 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2002 Triumph SPRINT RS
2002 Triumph SPRINT ST
2003 Triumph DAYTONA
2003 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2003 Triumph SPRINT RS
2003 Triumph SPRINT ST
2004 Triumph DAYTONA
2004 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2004 Triumph SPRINT RS
2004 Triumph SPRINT ST
2005 Triumph DAYTONA
2005 Triumph SPRINT ST
2006 Triumph DAYTONA
2006 Triumph SPRINT ST
2007 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2007 Triumph SPRINT ST
2008 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2008 Triumph SPRINT ST
2009 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2009 Triumph SPRINT ST
2010 Triumph SPEED TRIPLE
2010 Triumph SPRINT ST

This was the listing for the Triumph rear axle assembly from BikeBandit.com. So this gives you choises in finding the rear axle. I do NOT know of the offset and other compatibility issues using VFR eccentric with the Triumph axle since I have not done this. But after reading this thread I would think it's possible.