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Newbie sprocket question

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#1
Just picked up my new to me '07 VFR 800. I'm looking at going +2 on rear sprocket. Bike only has 2500 miles. My question; is the stock chain long enough to accomodate the bigger rear sprocket? BTW you can see I'm new to the site, but already buying parts from you riders and looking at mods. Thanks in advance.
#2
Stock chain will fit fine. The problem will be finding a +2 rear. Sprocket Center seems to be the only place that has them, but far too many here have reported fitment problems for my taste. YMMV.

And welcome! Great site with lots of info and great ppls.
#3
Gone through 2 replacement sprocket and chain replacement with 2 up on back. stock chain length will work just fine. I have had no problem what so ever with fitment on larger rear sprocket.highly recommend sprocket center
#4
I did the search thing concerning replacing stock rear sprocket with an aftermarket, and was surprised by some of the post(s). Specifically, the riders saying that the Vortex aluminum sprockets were a problem. It wasn't clear to me if the problem was caused by the 520 conversion, or poor quality of the Vortex sprocket. I am staying with the 530 and was considering the Vortex. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I have a gen. 1 Yamaha FZ1 that I have an aluminum Vortex on that has stood up to 14,000 miles of hard riding. Granted it is 4-5 years old, has the quality gone down hill?
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[image: View Post]bones, on 18 September 2010 - 08:42 AM, said:

I did the search thing concerning replacing stock rear sprocket with an aftermarket, and was surprised by some of the post(s). Specifically, the riders saying that the Vortex aluminum sprockets were a problem. It wasn't clear to me if the problem was caused by the 520 conversion, or poor quality of the Vortex sprocket. I am staying with the 530 and was considering the Vortex. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I have a gen. 1 Yamaha FZ1 that I have an aluminum Vortex on that has stood up to 14,000 miles of hard riding. Granted it is 4-5 years old, has the quality gone down hill?

cant give any recommendations or experience on vortex aluminum other than on my SV race bike. for VFR I keep it simple DID 530 xring with STEEL sprocket kit 45 on the back 16 on the front(stock) fits just fine
why would you need to go aluminum or 520 conversion on a VFR? unless your planing on racing it and if you are you have the wrong bike.
#6
That was my point. I have no intentions of going to a 520 setup. Just trying to understand how riders could destroy the Vortex aluminum in just a few thousand miles. The one on the back of my FZ1 has been abused; mostly 1/8 and 1/4 mile at a time and as I stated after thousands of miles has minimal wear if any.
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[image: View Post]bones, on 19 September 2010 - 05:05 PM, said:

That was my point. I have no intentions of going to a 520 setup. Just trying to understand how riders could destroy the Vortex aluminum in just a few thousand miles. The one on the back of my FZ1 has been abused; mostly 1/8 and 1/4 mile at a time and as I stated after thousands of miles has minimal wear if any.



The answer is yes you can destroy aluminum sprockets quickly whether thats 520 0r 530 chain. Now I cannot argue if something works for you...
After running one on my Husqvarna 610 supermoto and losing a few teeth I would never use an aluminum sprocket again.
I use one of these 2 metal rear that has an aluminum hub for reduced weight but a steel outer ring to hold up for miles, its a supersprox and available in +2 bigger than stock.
Right Here, this is the cats meow....only mine is black on black, not gold (because I wanna be like Timmy)
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[image: View Post]46alpha, on 17 September 2010 - 09:01 PM, said:

Stock chain will fit fine. The problem will be finding a +2 rear. Sprocket Center seems to be the only place that has them, but far too many here have reported fitment problems for my taste. YMMV.

And welcome! Great site with lots of info and great ppls.



Yup, stock chain works fine. Fitment issue topic here; http://www.vfrdiscus...Bcenter__st__30


+2 Sprocket ...best $45 I ever spent!
#9

[image: View Post]bones, on 18 September 2010 - 08:42 AM, said:

I did the search thing concerning replacing stock rear sprocket with an aftermarket, and was surprised by some of the post(s). Specifically, the riders saying that the Vortex aluminum sprockets were a problem. It wasn't clear to me if the problem was caused by the 520 conversion, or poor quality of the Vortex sprocket. I am staying with the 530 and was considering the Vortex. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I have a gen. 1 Yamaha FZ1 that I have an aluminum Vortex on that has stood up to 14,000 miles of hard riding. Granted it is 4-5 years old, has the quality gone down hill?



STEEL lasts 10 imes as long as aluminum , 520 is way to light for vfr. Id have to see a brand new sprocket matched up with yours , just because it has teeth doesnt mean its not severely worn.

I'm still on orginal vfr rear sprocket pushing 80.000 miles , thanks to Motorex 622 strong street green can, the stuff elimnates metal to metal contact extremely hevy strong fluid base, it will increase life of front sprockets 3 fold , I've never found any lube that can withstand the pressures of the front sprocket until the 622
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[image: View Post]DougFromIndy, on 19 September 2010 - 07:31 PM, said:

I use one of these 2 metal rear that has an aluminum hub for reduced weight but a steel outer ring to hold up for miles, its a supersprox and available in +2 bigger than stock.
Right Here, this is the cats meow....only mine is black on black, not gold (because I wanna be like Timmy)
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And if you can tell me where we can get one, I'll give you a shiny nickle!
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[image: View Post]46alpha, on 22 September 2010 - 08:29 PM, said:

[image: View Post]DougFromIndy, on 19 September 2010 - 07:31 PM, said:

I use one of these 2 metal rear that has an aluminum hub for reduced weight but a steel outer ring to hold up for miles, its a supersprox and available in +2 bigger than stock.
Right Here, this is the cats meow....only mine is black on black, not gold (because I wanna be like Timmy)
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And if you can tell me where we can get one, I'll give you a shiny nickle!

My link
#12
To update; I went with the all steel +2 rear sprocket. I as a rule gear all my bikes down, but must admit, I don't know why these bikes don't come with the 45 rear sprocket. Much smoother around town and really don't notice much mid-range difference, roll on to pass is much better. To save me the hassle of doing the GPS thing; how much is speedometer off, 10%? I've spent enough on Speedohealers over the years.
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[image: View Post]bones, on 23 September 2010 - 09:29 PM, said:

To update; I went with the all steel +2 rear sprocket. I as a rule gear all my bikes down, but must admit, I don't know why these bikes don't come with the 45 rear sprocket. Much smoother around town and really don't notice much mid-range difference, roll on to pass is much better. To save me the hassle of doing the GPS thing; how much is speedometer off, 10%? I've spent enough on Speedohealers over the years.

If you ask me honda got the gearing wrong, your right it should of been 45 rear.
speedometer is off with my gps between 11-12% i think stock it was 5-6% high
keep track of your gas mileage you might be pleasantly surprised.
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[image: View Post]bones, on 23 September 2010 - 09:29 PM, said:

To update; I went with the all steel +2 rear sprocket. I as a rule gear all my bikes down, but must admit, I don't know why these bikes don't come with the 45 rear sprocket. Much smoother around town and really don't notice much mid-range difference, roll on to pass is much better. To save me the hassle of doing the GPS thing; how much is speedometer off, 10%? I've spent enough on Speedohealers over the years.


Where did you get the sprocket from?
#15
Not sure how this site treats referrals. To answer your question; Sprocket Center. I ordered online and had the sprocket (2) days later in Raleigh. Thay's about as good as it gets.
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[image: View Post]bones, on 25 September 2010 - 05:49 PM, said:

Not sure how this site treats referrals. To answer your question; Sprocket Center. I ordered online and had the sprocket (2) days later in Raleigh. Thay's about as good as it gets.


Sweet, thanks man.
#17
Hi all, have a bit of a problem. I Just installed a new Chain and sprockets. I got a RX 530 chain ( Gold).

My questions are what is the stock amount of teeth? I got a 16/43 combo now. Apparently my bike cruises in 6th at 70 doing 4500RPM now....It used to cruise at 70-75 at about 5500. I just got a speeding ticket yesterday (ON MY BIrthday for 85) I was going 90+.
With that gearing I've got quite a bit of legroom to speed. 6th gear now is useless to me (mostly) ....is that really stock???

I got my combo at sprocket Center also. if a 16/43 is stock. I'll be speeding alot! and I kinda like the tall gearing but it's a bit tall.



Jim
#18
Yeh thats stock, i find it very usable. But yeh 5500 rpm is pushing right around 80mph in 6th gear




#19
Its quite a change. I didn't know that was stock. Its going to take some time to recalibrate myself. I'm used to higher RPM. Imy viffer goes quite fast now. I actually hit 125 on RT 101....I slowed down to 115 and got clocked ....she wrote me up for 85. I just got through traffic school last week! ARRRGH. 2 tickets in 3 months..


[image: View Post]spud786, on 12 February 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

Yeh thats stock, i find it very usable. But yeh 5500 rpm is pushing right around 80mph in 6th gear








#20
Thats sad to hear on the tickets, Ive always managed to keep a clean record, with only getting a ticket every couple years and utilizing Defensive driving dismissable ticket techniques. Maybe I get pulled over 3 times per year and only one would be a ticket, but I averaged one about every two years on a bike.

Then I got pulled over 4 times in a 4 month period, I knew my Karma was seriously flawed. It was only a matter of time to get that 1.2 ,3 ticket in a short period of time and then your screwed.

What to do what to do? So I had to see if there was any value in surveilliece gear(you have to run top of the Line) its just adaquate, but very usable. Ive not been pulled over in more than 2 years, with hundred of close combat situations avoided. These are only tools, but they stop the real easy stuff. Once you get into this world, you learn alot about how to combat it, and become much more aware, verses just riding blindly with luck.

All thats illegal in California, but you might be able to do a covert set up, its an investment, I wish you've had invested the money there, than in the tickets your dealing with now.

But its about a $1500 investment to have the tools needed. But if you dont run speed limits, its the only way to have a chance, cause across the country traffic monitoring has really stepped up , its easy money.
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