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5th Gen Staintune High and GIVI WingRack

15 posts Started 7 Oct 2010 Last recovered post 28 Apr 2011 Wayback Machine snapshot 8 Jul 2012

#1
I am looking to get back into the GIVI market with a Wing Rack 3 bag setup, and I can't remember if the Staintune High Mount fits with it.
I used to have a WR, but with the standard mount muffler.
I know Miguel had a GIVI setup and Staintune, but I don't recall which combo; Tubular Rack or Wing Rack, high or standard mount can...
Anyway, will it work for me?
If not: Cornercarver, How much for my muffler back? :beer:
#2

[image: View Post]KPerham, on 07 October 2010 - 12:46 PM, said:

I am looking to get back into the GIVI market with a Wing Rack 3 bag setup, and I can't remember if the Staintune High Mount fits with it.
I used to have a WR, but with the standard mount muffler.
I know Miguel had a GIVI setup and Staintune, but I don't recall which combo; Tubular Rack or Wing Rack, high or standard mount can...
Anyway, will it work for me?
If not: Cornercarver, How much for my muffler back? :beer:
  
Miguel had a highmount and a wingrack.  He got it to fit with some tweeking and still had some rubbing.  I have the same set up but was in willing to tweek it enough not to rub.  If I take a long trip I put the stocker back on.  For the daily commute I have a Kanadian Ken's solo rack.
#3

[image: View Post]MuddDawg, on 07 October 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

[image: View Post]KPerham, on 07 October 2010 - 12:46 PM, said:

I am looking to get back into the GIVI market with a Wing Rack 3 bag setup, and I can't remember if the Staintune High Mount fits with it.
I used to have a WR, but with the standard mount muffler.
I know Miguel had a GIVI setup and Staintune, but I don't recall which combo; Tubular Rack or Wing Rack, high or standard mount can...
Anyway, will it work for me?
If not: Cornercarver, How much for my muffler back? :beer:
  
Miguel had a highmount and a wingrack.  He got it to fit with some tweeking and still had some rubbing.  I have the same set up but was in willing to tweek it enough not to rub.  If I take a long trip I put the stocker back on.  For the daily commute I have a Kanadian Ken's solo rack.
Alrighty. I guess I'll try to get it to work.
#4
I too have been contemplating side bags.  I think I'd go with the tubes since I already have a top rack.  And I'm in the same boat with my mig indy high mount.

Finding a tube rack used is a PITA though   :mad:
#5

[image: View Post]y2kvfr, on 07 October 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

I too have been contemplating side bags.  I think I'd go with the tubes since I already have a top rack.  And I'm in the same boat with my mig indy high mount.

Finding a tube rack used is a PITA though   :mad:
Good luck with your search! I think you could talk Cornercarver into selling his (my former) Staintune standard mount if the Mig won't fit. Unless I need it first! :fing02:
#6

[image: View Post]KPerham, on 07 October 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

[image: View Post]y2kvfr, on 07 October 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

I too have been contemplating side bags.  I think I'd go with the tubes since I already have a top rack.  And I'm in the same boat with my mig indy high mount.

Finding a tube rack used is a PITA though   :mad:
Good luck with your search! I think you could talk Cornercarver into selling his (my former) Staintune standard mount if the Mig won't fit. Unless I need it first! :fing02:
hehe... there's no way I'm getting rid of the mig!  My search for PL257 is coming up nil other than 'new'.  And as you know, I'm a cheap bastige!
#7

[image: View Post]KPerham, on 07 October 2010 - 12:46 PM, said:

I am looking to get back into the GIVI market with a Wing Rack 3 bag setup, and I can't remember if the Staintune High Mount fits with it.
I used to have a WR, but with the standard mount muffler.
I know Miguel had a GIVI setup and Staintune, but I don't recall which combo; Tubular Rack or Wing Rack, high or standard mount can...
Anyway, will it work for me?
If not: Cornercarver, How much for my muffler back? :beer:


I'm running a high mount staintune with a wing rack (I think it's the wing rack 2).  It did require some modifications, such as spacers and bending / flattening of the support that attaches to the passenger peg.  I mostly run with the top case, so I haven't had any chance yet to use loaded side cases and determine if it's rubbing.  So far so good though.
#8

[image: View Post]y2kvfr, on 07 October 2010 - 01:40 PM, said:

[image: View Post]KPerham, on 07 October 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

[image: View Post]y2kvfr, on 07 October 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

I too have been contemplating side bags.  I think I'd go with the tubes since I already have a top rack.  And I'm in the same boat with my mig indy high mount.

Finding a tube rack used is a PITA though   :mad:
Good luck with your search! I think you could talk Cornercarver into selling his (my former) Staintune standard mount if the Mig won't fit. Unless I need it first! :fing02:
hehe... there's no way I'm getting rid of the mig!  My search for PL257 is coming up nil other than 'new'.  And as you know, I'm a cheap bastige!

Hell, if I knew you were looking for one and wanted to see if it would fit I would have let you have mine for the weekend. I don't have a problem on mine, but it's only a 'mid' mount I guess. Do I need to go out and measure distance from the plate to the plastic or something?
#9
Here are some pix of my installation of a Remus high mount can with a Givi WingRack #1.
The top supports are spaced out by about 1" using chromed towel rack tube over longer bolts, cut to size based on experiment using a roller cutter to get the ends square and slightly necked in. The front bottom stay needs spacing out to clear the can body and I used a T bracket with an arm cut off to make an L so the support is displaced sideways about an inch (it also clears my riding pal finger puppet on the peg!).
The top of the right side wing needs a spacer to connect to the plate of a 3-box setup - I used a heat sink from a Regulator/Rectifier left over from my old 750.
The rig as shown (E45 + 2xE21) carried 55 lb / 25Kg of camping stuff inside without any problems.

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#10
Agree with above. Only way to get it to work is with spacers.

How solid is that mounting?
#11

[image: View Post]YoshiHNS, on 10 October 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:

Agree with above. Only way to get it to work is with spacers.

How solid is that mounting?
Well, I wouldn't suggest Steve take any long trips!

I once made a steel tube subframe to mount Krauser K2 luggage on my FL (as I couldn't wait for Krauser to come out with a mounting kit for the then-"new" VFR).  Okay, I wasn't (and still am not) the world's niftiest welder, but I thought it was pretty strong.  Not strong enough!  Snapped somewhere in Spain after a few thouand miles, and had to get it re-welded locally.  What am I getting at with this pointless anecdote about a different bike with a different luggage mounting system?  Simply that I know what I used and the materials Steve's using don't even LOOK strudy enough to do the job required of a Wingrack suspended off the rear subframe of a VFR.  The heat sink, for example, is probably made from the softest grade of alloy available, and I'm not so sure about the towel rail, either.  

As a proof-of-concept, okay, but IMHO now is the time to switch to more suitable materials...

Ciao,
#12

[image: View Post]JZH, on 11 October 2010 - 05:44 PM, said:

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As a proof-of-concept, okay, but IMHO now is the time to switch to more suitable materials...

Ciao,
Fair enough, but in my defence I only use it on E21panniers. The alloy plate will be superseded - stainless wide and shallow U channel between the two wings under the plate seems appropriate.
#13
The top plate now resides on a stainless 2mm channel that fully bridges between the side supports.
I found a stainless fabricator who is a biker -   :fing02:

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#14

[image: View Post]steve27bha, on 27 April 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

The top plate now resides on a stainless 2mm channel that fully bridges between the side supports.
I found a stainless fabricator who is a biker -   :fing02:
Sweet, nice job! I wound up taking the easy route and buying back my original Staintune low mount. :fing02:
#15

[image: View Post]steve27bha, on 27 April 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

The top plate now resides on a stainless 2mm channel that fully bridges between the side supports.
I found a stainless fabricator who is a biker -   :fing02:
Much better!   :fing02:

Ciao,
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