Project 85 VF1000R

Not much to look at for now, completely tore down, wheels off to the powder coater, paint and body work being done..

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One more...

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You call that completely torn down?? :laugh:

R projects are always fun. Make sure the PC guys don't bake the wheels too hot, I've heard of R wheels loosening up after getting PC'd, they're only bolted together after all. Welcome aboard, I'll be watching this one. I see an 1100F no less.

Do it to it!!!! Looking forward to the progress over the winter.

Kel

You call that completely torn down?? :laugh:

R projects are always fun. Make sure the PC guys don't bake the wheels too hot, I've heard of R wheels loosening up after getting PC'd, they're only bolted together after all. Welcome aboard, I'll be watching this one. I see an 1100F no less.

Lets just say it is torn down as far as I want to take it :smile:

I want to replace the rear sprocket, does the VF1100F use the same bolt pattern?

Lemme look.

The VF1000F looks like it uses the same sprocket. I'm sure that's what you meant.

I see the CB1100F in the faster blue color... And what looks like a XN85 in the background...?

Can't recall what it said on the box but when I got sprockets for my 1KR there was a long list of Honda bikes that they fit. Did both sprockets and chain at same time.

Check the valve clearance and cams while you have the bike apart

this is what happened to my '86 with under 20K miles

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I spy a set of fancy lightweight wheels!

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I spy a set of fancy lightweight wheels!

Yes, Marchesini Magnesium's

VF1000RS

The VF1000F looks like it uses the same sprocket. I'm sure that's what you meant.

I see the CB1100F in the faster blue color... And what looks like a XN85 in the background...?

Yep, this is the 1100F the other bike you see is an 85 GS700ES

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JWhelan65

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I spy a set of fancy lightweight wheels!

Yes, Marchesini Magnesium's

Very nice. Are they going on one of the bikes listed here?

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JWhelan65

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I spy a set of fancy lightweight wheels!

Yes, Marchesini Magnesium's

Very nice. Are they going on one of the bikes listed here?

I had plans for them but I dont think they will work for what I intended, so I guess they are for sale

Looks like it found a good home, can't wait to see it finished. Welcome!

Anyone have a good source for a set Race Tech springs?

If you're talking about fork springs, look up Rich Desmond at www.sonicsprings.com instead. Same quality, $30 less...

Before you go nuts with upgrades adjust the valves and check the cams, I just got a whole new motor cause my cam was boned (posted pics earlier) the new motor has similar issue with same rear exhaust cam. Also all the used cams I found so far have similar pitting on the same lobe...

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I put whole lot of money and effort in to this bike, had I known the cam was bad would have just abandon the project early on before I rebuilt the rest of it.

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If you're talking about fork springs, look up Rich Desmond at www.sonicsprings.com instead. Same quality, $30 less...

Never heard of them, any good?

Picked the wheels from the powder coater and had some new rubber installed..went with a 20% gloss finish

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New wheel and stem bearings, filters, galfer braided lines, fork seals

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Dmitry

Before you go nuts with upgrades adjust the valves and check the cams, I just got a whole new motor cause my cam was boned (posted pics earlier) the new motor has similar issue with same rear exhaust cam. Also all the used cams I found so far have similar pitting on the same lobe...

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I put whole lot of money and effort in to this bike, had I known the cam was bad would have just abandon the project early on before I rebuilt the rest of it.

Yep on the list..

More powder coat bling

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Had some new stickies made for the old tired F1r's

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Nothing to major here, cleaned up and flushed the calipers, new pads on the way

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cleaned up both master cylinders and ordered kits for all including the rear, replaced the seal in the slave as well..

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JWhelan65

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If you're talking about fork springs, look up Rich Desmond at www.sonicsprings.com instead. Same quality, $30 less...

Never heard of them, any good?

Yes, very good and good to deal with. Have used them a lot, got a few sets in some of my bikes and have used many in customer bikes as well.

Your project looks like it's off and running. Nice work.

I have a set of Sonic Springs in one of my bikes. No difference between those and the more expensive set from Racetech in one of the ohers.

VF1000RS

Your project looks like it's off and running. Nice work.

I have a set of Sonic Springs in one of my bikes. No difference between those and the more expensive set from Racetech in one of the ohers.

Thanks

It looks like for the money you can't go wrong

Dmitry

Before you go nuts with upgrades adjust the valves and check the cams, I just got a whole new motor cause my cam was boned (posted pics earlier) the new motor has similar issue with same rear exhaust cam. Also all the used cams I found so far have similar pitting on the same lobe...

I put whole lot of money and effort in to this bike, had I known the cam was bad would have just abandon the project early on before I rebuilt the rest of it.

Maybe take the least ugly cam and have it welded, reground and hardened by Shadbolt, Webcam, Colt Cams or other???

If the other three look good, maybe no need to do them?

Veefer800Canuck

Maybe take the least ugly cam and have it welded, reground and hardened by Shadbolt, Webcam, Colt Cams or other???

What does it cost? I was ignoring this option as it seemed mine was a freak departure from the usual Honda quality, but now I have seen several damaged rear exhaust cams and want to get a good one.

I dunno, call some of those outfits and ask. Shouldn't be too bad if it's just the one cam that's gone out on ya.

I removed the swinger and exhaust collector to make way for the new Daugherty conversion, oredered new rear sprocket and chain, replaced all the seals in the arm and hauled off more parts to the powder coater.

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Exhaust done, powder coating complete..

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Ooh, satin black...

Very nice!!! So shiney and perfect!

Those pipes look really nice. I'm hoping to do this to my pipes.i hope you don't mind me asking but how much did you pay for the powder coating.

nedhills

Those pipes look really nice. I'm hoping to do this to my pipes.i hope you don't mind me asking but how much did you pay for the powder coating.

I paid $150 for the pipes and all the parts you see, the exhaust is an aftermarket F1 that I had done in ceramic satin to hold up to the high temps.

Nice work! Looking forward to seeing how this build comes together.

Just waiting on a few small parts and my shock conversion from Jamie and it should start to look like a motorcycle again....

Great work, I'll be getting to my R build soon too, you are definately giving me some ideas.

New Supersprox kit came today....

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Oh nice!!!! Supersprox! Is that for the VF1000R or did you find one from another model that fits the VF1000R? I was looking when I did my chain and couldn't find a SuperSprox for the VF1000R. Maybe I gave up to early?

smackdoogle

Oh nice!!!! Supersprox! Is that for the VF1000R or did you find one from another model that fits the VF1000R? I was looking when I did my chain and couldn't find a SuperSprox for the VF1000R. Maybe I gave up to early?

Uses the same bolt pattern as the "F" which they stock...

Recieved my modded CBR 600 replacement rear shock today...Kudos to Jamie!

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With the length of those extensions, I would be tempted to temporarily bolt up something of the correct width for the lower mount between the extended aluminum "forks", and then weld in a piece of square aluminum tubing for reinforcement between the two, right at the midpoint.

These are automotive leaf spring shackles, but you get the idea of the crosspiece reinforcing the two extended "legs". Same but different.

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I thought about that as well, I may drili and bolt a piece of stock beteween them in the same manner

JWhelan65

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If you're talking about fork springs, look up Rich Desmond at www.sonicsprings.com instead. Same quality, $30 less...

Never heard of them, any good?

+1 I used them when I restored my 85 VF1000R. Highly recommended.

Veefer800Canuck

With the length of those extensions, I would be tempted to temporarily bolt up something of the correct width for the lower mount between the extended aluminum "forks", and then weld in a piece of square aluminum tubing for reinforcement between the two, right at the midpoint.

These are automotive leaf spring shackles, but you get the idea of the crosspiece reinforcing the two extended "legs". Same but different.

:+1:

Veefer800Canuck

With the length of those extensions, I would be tempted to temporarily bolt up something of the correct width for the lower mount between the extended aluminum "forks", and then weld in a piece of square aluminum tubing for reinforcement between the two, right at the midpoint.

These are automotive leaf spring shackles, but you get the idea of the crosspiece reinforcing the two extended "legs". Same but different.

I'd sooner weld in a rectangular plate of 1/8" or 3/16" aluminum, basically make the extension an i beam.

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Veefer800Canuck

With the length of those extensions, I would be tempted to temporarily bolt up something of the correct width for the lower mount between the extended aluminum "forks", and then weld in a piece of square aluminum tubing for reinforcement between the two, right at the midpoint.

These are automotive leaf spring shackles, but you get the idea of the crosspiece reinforcing the two extended "legs". Same but different.

I'd sooner weld in a rectangular plate of 1/8" or 3/16" aluminum, basically make the extension an i beam.

Or that. Something is better than nothing. That's a lot of distance, and the greatest forces are in compression, which will want to bend the pieces outwards.

Body work starting to come together...compliments of Larry Pearson.

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Very nice. Maybe some more super fine wet sanding and more clear? Looks like there is a bit of orange peel in the tank?

Nevertheless, it's gonna look great when it's done. I've always wanted a 1000R.

Veefer800Canuck Very nice. Maybe some more super fine wet sanding and more clear? Looks like there is a bit of orange peel in the tank? Nevertheless, it's gonna look great when it's done. I've always wanted a 1000R.

You're correct, sir, These pics were taken just moments after the first few coats of clear were sprayed. There's still a multi-stage polishing process that'll take that finish to smooth as glass. This is the second bike I've painted for Joe. Great customer. Amazing bike.

Larry Pearson

Meticulous Motorcycle Painting

www.meticulouspaint.com

Sweet. Checked out your site. Love the Cooley Rep!

Welcome to VFRd, we'd love to see some pics of your CX500 Turbo, maybe start a thread in the "Other than VFRs" section.

Nice CXturbos these days are as rare as Rocking Horse Shit. The 650s are rarer still!

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Nice work on the paint, what will be the final tally of the paint and decals?

Nice looking paint! It's going to look like new. :fing02:

Veefer800Canuck

Sweet. Checked out your site. Love the Cooley Rep!

Welcome to VFRd, we'd love to see some pics of your CX500 Turbo, maybe start a thread in the "Other than VFRs" section.

Nice CXturbos these days are as rare as Rocking Horse Shit. The 650s are rarer still!

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Nice of you to post a picture of my GS1000S. You'll notice I managed to sneek in a couple of Honda parts on it. The front fender and the rear shocks are from an '83 1100F. I'll post some pics of the Turbo in the other section. Thanks for the interest.

Larry's work in top notch, he has a multiple of satifsied customers on several forums. The light mechanical and powder coating is easily accomplished with a little elbow grease and insight. The paint is a true art form, you cannot go wrong with Larry's work.

Having issues with the JD shock conversion, the location of the line fitting for the remote res will not allow it to slide in on either side. You can see in the photo below that the stem invades the battery box location. If I turn the shock 180 degrees it will not slide in for the same reason, it is off 1.5". Working on sourcing something else...

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Yeah, that's a problem.

Unless JD can take the shock back, deflate it, install a 90' fitting to reorient the hose, and recharge the shock?

We have been communicating I hopeful we can resolve this..

Veefer800Canuck

Yeah, that's a problem.

Unless JD can take the shock back, deflate it, install a 90' fitting to reorient the hose, and recharge the shock?

I ordered the Hagon today, only $50.00 more than JD's conversion.

Part number M61094

Waiting on a few parts so I re-assembled the rear M/C and gave it a little bling..

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Looks great!

It has arrived!!!!....The Hagon M61094

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I hope JWhelan doesn't mind if I post some finished pics of his new paint. Just got it done today. Thought maybe you'd like to see it. Combined with Joe's attention to detail, this bike is gonna be awesome.

Larry

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Wow, factory fresh. I'm jealous.

What would a service like that run a guy?

Thanks. On some jobs I try to replicate the factory look and finish as closely as I can. Joe and I talked at length about what it needed to look like it just rolled off the showfloor...but with a little more. Prices really vary from bike to bike and I'd be glad to go over anyone's project. Feel free to pm me anytime.

I wish I'd found ya in 2010 when I wanted my 800 painted.

It's "OK" and I paid $900 plus $140 for decals, but it could have been super sweet like the pics above.

Wow that paint looks better than perfect, cant wait to see JWhelan's finished project its gonna be one of the best!

Looks fantastic! I always liked the '85 layout best. Please post paint codes for the group.

Thanks for the post Larry! The bike is basically ready for reassembly, should have some build up photos coming soon.

Check out Larry's work here

http://meticulouspaint.com/

Thanks, Joe!

Kel

Looks fantastic! I always liked the '85 layout best. Please post paint codes for the group.

Unfortunately, I don't really have official codes. What I have is a guy who custom mixes all my colors for me and does fantastic work. I use PPG products exclusively. Seems auto paint stores will have the codes for newer bikes, but once they get back into the 70's and 80's they start to get more difficult to find. Most places can replicate the color pretty well if you have a part they can scan the color from.

That paint looks so very nice. Do you use any decals for the R stripes or is it all paint?

VF1000RS

That paint looks so very nice. Do you use any decals for the R stripes or is it all paint?

I've done it both ways. I've had stencils made and airbrushed factory graphics before, (check out my GS1000S) but on this bike Joe bought a decal kit. The blue stripe is painted, yes. What I did, though, was clear coat the (VF1000R) decals on the fairing lower to seal them in, and then came back and masked the white portions off and sprayed the same blue as on the stripes so it looks like you're seeing through the decals to the paint underneath (as Honda had intended it to look) then re-clear coated it. If you look closely at these bikes, the blue on the decals always seem to be a slightly different shade then the stripe and that drives me crazy. It's subtle, but I'm a little weird when it comes to details like that.

Wow, the attention to detail is amazing and shows in the final product. The bike is going to be stunning! :fing02:

nvr2old

Kel

Looks fantastic! I always liked the '85 layout best. Please post paint codes for the group.

Unfortunately, I don't really have official codes. What I have is a guy who custom mixes all my colors for me and does fantastic work. I use PPG products exclusively. Seems auto paint stores will have the codes for newer bikes, but once they get back into the 70's and 80's they start to get more difficult to find. Most places can replicate the color pretty well if you have a part they can scan the color from.

I know nothing about paint mixing but I would guess there has to be a ratio formula he used whether it correlates to a factory "code" or not. No biggie, just thought it might be usefull for those who are painting in the near future.

I mixed automotive paint for around five years, that was awhile back. With the scanner you can pretty much hit the color spot on.

yeah, interested in the code of the blue especially, looks lovely indeed.

BillyZ

I mixed automotive paint for around five years, that was awhile back. With the scanner you can pretty much hit the color spot on.

Yes, and that's exactly what the guy that mixes my colors does. Most of the time they're very close once scanned, but occaisionally he'll have to tweak it a bit to get the right shade. I've watched him many times start from scratch with a color that was just sorta close and by dropping in small amounts of colors you wouldn't even think could be in the formula, match it beautifully.

vfrcapn

Wow, the attention to detail is amazing and shows in the final product. The bike is going to be stunning! :fing02:

This VFR is the second bike Larry has done for me and certainly not the last, here my 86NH that he did. He does fabulous work!

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Man those bikes are beautiful.. I checked out his website and was amazed.. I would park that bike in my living room when not riding it just to stare at it.

Still waiting on my shock from Hagon........ :sad:

Super nice Nighthawk S. Well done JW65!

InvisibleCities

Super nice Nighthawk S. Well done JW65!

Thanks, Larry's bodywork sets everything off..

Finally!!! a shock that fits...much awaited assembly to come.

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Fawesome! Can't wait!

Looks great. 'Bout time, I'm not getting any younger ya know.

Looks great!

If I could ask, why did you decide not to run the DMr shock and is this the second Hagon you ordered?

InvisibleCities

Looks great!

If I could ask, why did you decide not to run the DMr shock and is this the second Hagon you ordered?

I could not get JD's or the first Hagon to fit properly. Hagon actually figured it out and had to make another one. I recieved the 1000F version first which was close but still had some issues. They were real good about it and I finally got the correct one but it took forever.

Thanks for the 411. Glad this worked out.

Some progress....

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Looking good! :fing02:

vfrcapn

Looking good! :fing02:

+1! Me likey!

Wicked good. The satin black powder coated swingarm is top shelf.

Keep up the great work!

Piece at a time, piece at a time... It's lookin' really cool, Joe. Your attention to detail really shows.

Ok, you obviously have not posted enough pics of the garage - is that three lifts? I can't look....

Beautiful job BTW!

unbalanced

Ok, you obviously have not posted enough pics of the garage - is that three lifts? I can't look....

Beautiful job BTW!

Yes three lifts

Looks great. Now go get it dirty!!

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Looks great. Now go get it dirty!!

Going to try and get it inspected this week, its killing me having it sit there...

Beautiful Bike!

Almost makes me really want to Buy the '85 VF1000 that is on CL here locally, Down to $600.00 last I looked. But I truelly can't afford to spend my money on yet another project!

Ride Safe

Apittslife

Beautiful Bike!

Almost makes me really want to Buy the '85 VF1000 that is on CL here locally, Down to $600.00 last I looked. But I truelly can't afford to spend my money on yet another project!

Ride Safe

Can you post the listing?

Will do so when I get home tonite.

Edit: Here is the CL ad you requested: http://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/3133619518.html

Haven't been home for a few weeks, over in Italy for the GP race. Bike looks fantastic!! Nice job!

Kel

Haven't been home for a few weeks, over in Italy for the GP race. Bike looks fantastic!! Nice job!

Thanks Kel

However nothing close to your skills

Great project! Turns out werry nice looking in every detail. I do have to say I like the twin headlight look better, but thats a taste thing. A 1KR is a 1KR anyway, one of the best looking bikes out there.

Talk about envey at every level!!! Superb restoration and documentation on the VF1Kr and kudos on the new shop as well. In addition, you've managed to own/restore several of my all time favorite bikes that would be in my own collection too- GS700ES, Nighthawk S ('85 blue/black my fav), CB1100F, very trick.

Well done. It's the patience that some people possess that I'm evenious of most. I try to have patience with projects, but it just takes too long!

lsc86Talk about envey at every level!!! Superb restoration and documentation on the VF1Kr and kudos on the new shop as well. In addition, you've managed to own/restore several of my all time favorite bikes that would be in my own collection too- GS700ES, Nighthawk S ('85 blue/black my fav), CB1100F, very trick.

Well done. It's the patience that some people possess that I'm evenious of most. I try to have patience with projects, but it just takes too long!

Kind of late to this post but many thanks for the kind words

Recent photo,,,,

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I was able to get out and really ride this thing last weekend. The new suspension made a world of difference.. I am always taken back by how fast the old girls really are.

What a great bike and good to know that is being ridden.

Old bikes (especially bikes with this much time and L$VE invested) can be seen as too _____ (fill in the blank) to be properly enjoyed.

I had to go back and read this entire thread again...I think that makes four or five times now.

I have a real late question on the Sonic springs you used, I purchased the same and received a PVC pipe for the spacer to be cut to fit. Is this what you used too?

Just curious.

BTW that bike is AWESOME!! :beer:

Charlies

I have a real late question on the Sonic springs you used, I purchased the same and received a PVC pipe for the spacer to be cut to fit. Is this what you used too?

Just curious.

BTW that bike is AWESOME!! :beer:

Yes if you have any questions you can email Rich at SS and he will return your email promptly

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Thanks..had it out this eve what a hoot!

Thinking on replacing the stock windscreen, its a little rough. Anyone provide any direction?

I found this site for windscreens, I have not bought one yet so no clue as to quality but it is German!

http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/mra_motorcycle_screens.html

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Looks incredible, hoping to do something similar if not quite as meticulous this winter. Did Larry clear over all the decals? And was that standard from the factory or were the decals on top of the clear (if they used it at all?)

great work!

JWhelan65

Recieved my modded CBR 600 replacement rear shock today...Kudos to Jamie!

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Is it just me or are those extensions 2 seperate parts bolted to the shock ? How will you stop them bending around the bolt point ? That is NOT a repalcement for the shock on the left. The extended piece needs to be a solid link to the shock core, i.e. obe piece or designed in such a way that it acts as one piece. That looks like it will bend in the middle like a knee joint !

Ignore me, just read the rest of the post & saw you swapped the shock for a proper one :)

Looks like this bike is up for auction right now....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161192179081?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Does anyone know if it sold and for how much?

IIRC the first auction the bidding was up to $6600 and ended without the reserve met. Relisting had a buy it now of $7500 and starting bid of $6500 but zero bids when it ended.

It looks like it did not sell. Even with the awesome front fork brace .................

Bike sold on the second auction