Made the trip to the Tail of the Dragon this weekend, and ended up with a few scratches and bumps. I entered crud corner too fast and road the bike into a ditch. Didn't lay the bike all the way down, ended up just laying it into the hillside at about a 60* angle. Bike stood up to the mishap pretty well, and I ended up with a couple of small scratches. Over all not a good start to the day, but the day ended up finishing out pretty good. We still had a great ride minus my mistake.
Trip
Dalton to Tail of the Dragon and Back.
Road over Forte Mountain.
Rained half of the trip back home.
Questions,
- 1. Where do I go to get the best prices on OEM parts.
- 2. What Color would you paint your VFR?
- 3. What would be a good price on getting the two panels repainted or getting all the red panels painted another color?
- 4. A lot of rain on the way back home.
Yeah I need to purchase copies of a few of the pics from both killboy, and US129photos. Actually I'll do that right now.
Edited by grandall1972, 28 March 2012 - 09:09 PM.
Oh man... that's no good lah!
You have no leather pants or knee protectors, and also no gloves.
Anyway, glad that you are aright.
For the OEM parts, I normally see better price among others in here: http://www.powersportsplus.com/
I have a hard time wearing leather pants on a long rides, and gloves were actually in the bag at the time. Luckily the gloves were not needed, but the pants could have been used. Would have saved me a bruised and cut knee.
Mistake made, and learned from. Luckily for me it wasn't a very hard mistake.
Edited by grandall1972, 28 March 2012 - 11:27 PM.
[image: View Post]Switchblade, on 28 March 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:
PURCHASE SOME GEAR FIRST !!!!!!
Only reason I said I was going to purchase the pictures immediately is, because I did not want to use killboys pictures with out purchasing them first. They took the time to take and post the pictures, and if I want to use the pics I should at least purchase them. You are right though, I do need to improve my ridding gear, and will soon.
Edited by grandall1972, 28 March 2012 - 09:14 PM.
Luckily the gloves were not needed, but the pants could have been used. Would have saved me a bruised and cut knee.
When I go back to the Tail of the Dragon, I will have a better pair of pants to help protect against small miss steps. I guess like everything else, you don't think you need the extra protection, until you need the extra protection.
Yeah, I think you will find that most people around here think you need gear whether you are on The Dragon, or not. I've ridden that highway and some other "technical" mountain roads, and I can promise you my daily freeway commute is much, much more dangerous. So, for the record, you got off light - and as you alluded to, you didn't need the gloves because you were lucky. That luck is also the reason you don't have a broken leg or shattered wrist. But anyway... :wink:
I think the '1200 would look great in that color the Civic has. Keep us posted if you go gray. :fing02:
Don't know you or your riding skills, BUT if I were you and my riding skills could use some improvement, I would save the paint money and put it towards a track school and some gear. Then I would paint the bike when my skill level was such that my likelihood of ruining another new paint job was less!
Don't know you or your riding skills, BUT if I were you and my riding skills could use some improvement, I would save the paint money and put it towards a track school and some gear. Then I would paint the bike when my skill level was such that my likelihood of ruining another new paint job was less!
I've been riding for 14 years, and have had 15 motorcycles with only one previous mishap. Until laying the vfr down softly Saturday, the only other bike I have ever laid down was my 2007 Burgman 650 do to someone pulling out in front of me. As everything goes mistakes are made, and then corrected. Luckily I was able to keep this mistake from becoming worse by getting the bike to and easier resting point then it could have been. Like I said it was a freak accident, but I might as well make a positive out of it, and get the vfr painted a color I will enjoy.
I know I need to wear riding gear, but being on the bike for an 8 hour day, it just wasn't what I wanted to wear. My mistake. I don't do track days ever, and only go to the tail and other mountain roads from time to time. Most of my time is spent on riding between home and work, and from home to see Family in SC.
Either way, I'm more interested in what would be interesting colors on the new VFR, and what I might expect to pay. I know I made a stupid uncharacteristic mistake on the tail, and I don't need that reported back to me. I can go out to the garage and look at the VFR1200 for a quick reminder.
Edited by grandall1972, 29 March 2012 - 11:53 AM.
At the very least, you might pick up some Kevlar pants, I've seen a few places that are selling last seasons styles on close out (under $100.00). I have a pair on the way now, because most of the time I ride with the Bohn Adventure pants under my trousers, as I do not go to an office but rather I visit other peoples business', so wearing leathers isn't the ideal clothing to meet with clients. That being said, I always wear my helmet, full finger gloves, an Alpinestar or Joe Rocket Jacket (depending on the weather), the Bohn Armor and a pair of TCX boots that look like street shoes when covered up by my trousers.
However, if I am planning on sport riding, I always break out my leather suit and a pair of full size boots. I also bought a pair of Alpinestar vented textile riding pants for the summer days, which I have not been able to ride in yet. The Alpinestar jacket and pants zip together and appear to be a good summer combo.
I would try a good scratch remover before I did any painting. I've had good success with similar scratches using ScratchX. It may not completely remove them; but they'll almost be invisible and you can decide what to do later.
I would try a good scratch remover before I did any painting. I've had good success with similar scratches using ScratchX. It may not completely remove them; but they'll almost be invisible and you can decide what to do later.
Good point on focusing on always riding prepared, get lazy and get burnt. I will not make that mistake again.
I've gone over the vfr with scratch remover already. The front is hard to tell except for one scratch, the scratches on the bag though are a little deeper and will not polish out. I'm in no big hurry to do anything because it isn't that bad. So I will come up with my plan slowly, and try to do something interesting with the paint job. My wife was already complaining that the bags didn't match the paint on the bike anyways. I like the VFR red, but a different color could really make the vfr look nice.
Hi.
I'm not piling-on because a prang can and will happen to all of us. I have personaly crashed a bike more times than some of our younger members have had hot dinners. And I cant speak from authority because I am not one of the fast guys. So, to explain the ribbing: it is just our way of goading you into always wearing your stuff because we care about you. (and to a lessor extent, yer,1200)
Weaing your gear is a mindset, that seems bothersome at times, but you get used to it and then you feel naked without it. I think it gives you confidence sometimes to lean that bad boy more when you find yourself drifting wide, and any and all confidence has been proven to help in the tight spots. I must admit that when I saw your photo on Killboy, my first reaction was "This is POST accident, and still no gloves?"
But as you know, this coice is yours and I'll buy you a beer no mater what you show up wearing.
Oh, and...........can I convince you to paint it flat black?
Don't look at these comments as trashing "you", it's just that no matter how good or bad anyone of us are we can all be a victims of a crash. I had a crash with the same ending as you (layed it against a grass bank 45/50º) the difference was, I was wearing gear. I've had 3 mishaps since '65 and all were close but not much or any damage.
I'm not into wearing leather either, but there are things you can wear that come close. A top and bottom that will allow shoulder/back/elbow/hip/knee/feet/gloves.......... as for knees I have a hard pac knee brace that pivots, that I wear under whatever bottoms I wear that works better than pretty much anything out there and no one even sees it(except NorthenVFRDave;My Tmac roommate).
But there are ways to still be comphy and protected.... And still be styling in your own choice of threads.
I was in my late 40's before I started wearing armor.
Sorry for your off road adventure, and glad that not much happened to either of you.
No 'trashing' at all. I've been riding close to 50 years, and I remember the last time I ignored the 'ATGATT' rule - it was 1975. I'd been on a long ride, it was an incredibly hot day (like 110 in the shade), and I'd just gotten off the freeway. My hands were sweating, so I took off my gloves. Less than a mile down the road I went down, rashing my hands pretty badly. Never again. I've only been down once since then; but I was wearing my gear and had no marks whatsoever.
Sounds like you're already past this and moving forward. Good on ya, lad.
Good to see you're ok. Seeing as how the damage is on the right side, you must have crossed over the line? That's not good at all.
Not if it was a "left" corner.
Good to see you're ok. Seeing as how the damage is on the right side, you must have crossed over the line? That's not good at all.
I was going left in the corner, not right.
As far as going flat black. Not for me or the vfr1200 I think.
My brother in law has one of his vfr's painted flat drab green including the engine, has all the panels taken off, and even through on a pair of offroad tires to make his own version of an enduro. I'll try to get a few pics of it.
I like this color, but am thinking of something that isn't a stock color.
OP..... What is that thing on the side of the Conny?
Those are my buddy Mike's police crash bars. They even have the spots to rest your feet and places for spot lights. The owner of the kawasaki shop in Columbia, SC put the bike together and road it for a month. Mike got it from the dealership the day after the owner decided he was done riding it. Mike picked the bike up as it sits for $11k with 1100 miles, crash bars, corbin seat, peg lowered, exhaust, and 5 year full warranty.
Edited by grandall1972, 29 March 2012 - 12:34 AM.
I know I can get a lot of it to buff out, but I am really just tempted to go with a different color. I fell in love with that titanium color the first time I saw it online. To me, the titanium blade really just makes the bike shine to me.
Hi.
I'm not piling-on because a prang can and will happen to all of us. I have personaly crashed a bike more times than some of our younger members have had hot dinners. And I cant speak from authority because I am not one of the fast guys. So, to explain the ribbing: it is just our way of goading you into always wearing your stuff because we care about you. (and to a lessor extent, yer,1200)
Weaing your gear is a mindset, that seems bothersome at times, but you get used to it and then you feel naked without it. I think it gives you confidence sometimes to lean that bad boy more when you find yourself drifting wide, and any and all confidence has been proven to help in the tight spots. I must admit that when I saw your photo on Killboy, my first reaction was "This is POST accident, and still no gloves?"
But as you know, this coice is yours and I'll buy you a beer no mater what you show up wearing.
Oh, and...........can I convince you to paint it flat black?
Good point on post accident and no gloves. Didn't think about them after the wreck. I was still kicking myself for the earlier mistake and ended up overlooking putting the gloves on. These pictures will not let me forget ATG ATT again. Also not planning another trip to the tail for a while.
I understand how it happened now. In my head I was seeing you cutting out wide on a sharp right and sliding off into a ditch. Either way it's good you learned something. Sometimes mistakes teach us the best lessons.
It took me a year to dial in the 1200 the way I like it, the I started with the tires, I hate the dunlops that came on the bike. First time I rode the thing on a semi twisty road the rear wheel hopped every time I got on the gas coming out of a turn. Then the wieght got to me - turned out I had the front forks rebound much too soft and it pushed wide in turns, I got that dialed it and now it tracks great! I am not so sure I would use the Gap as my "sorting out ride" - there are a lot of shorter less technical roads you can take - pull over and make suspension adjustments then get back on. I suspect you had the same issue I had with the bike wanting to run wide from what you wrote, a few clicks on the rebound to the hard side fixed it for me, and I got rid of the hopping in the rear with better Michelins PR2 tires and swapped out a 5th gen Ohlins shock with the OEM shock. They were identical spec since I had my 5th gen already set up with the same spring rate as the oem 1200 shock.
I find my front tire takes a beating as much as the rear does, the front tire is loaded up - I actually get edge to edge on the front tire before the rear on the 1200!
Jeans and no gloves gets you on the front page of Killboy for sure! HEH no to mention going down near or right in front of the photog.
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation. On two wheels it is never about if something bad happens, it is when something bad happens. I will back up Miguel's suggestions regarding the sorting out of the mechanical issues. There are so many variables to consider every time we saddle up, like the weather, when will the tires get warm enough to get some bite. Or I was way to hot into that corner and thankful that nobody was coming the other way, or my counter steering practice at the track day helped me stay on my side of the road.
Every situation like this offers of a teaching moment. It is what we do with that information that will make the difference in the future. Your scooter is dinged up, your pride and body parts are suffering from road rash. Road rash heals and parts can be buffed, replaced or repainted. Eventually, our pride recovers because we realize that bad shit is always around the corner and we sometimes don't see it coming.
I've heard that some folks have decided to change the color of their sweet red VFR1200 and have put down between $1000 and $1500 for a one-of-a-kind paint job, but for me I have always been a sucker for anything fast and red.
Keep your chin up, so you can catch more bugs in your teeth on your next fun ride on those sweet two wheels and do consider wearing something that will save your hide.
Mine's in the repair shop getting sprayed today (just back to the standard red) after a stationary drop - scratched fairing, mirrior body, LH engine case.
However, this seems like an opportunity if you fancy something new. I've not see any custom painted 12's yet. I like the look of the Honda RCE electric bike, which has modern take on the classic Honda racing colours....I reckon the 12 would look great like this... [image: Posted Image]
If you go for a new colour scheme, post some pics
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 28 March 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:
[image: View Post]2thdr, on 28 March 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:
Don't know you or your riding skills, BUT if I were you and my riding skills could use some improvement, I would save the paint money and put it towards a track school and some gear. Then I would paint the bike when my skill level was such that my likelihood of ruining another new paint job was less!
I've been riding for 14 years, and have had 15 motorcycles with only one previous mishap. Until laying the vfr down softly Saturday, the only other bike I have ever laid down was my 2007 Burgman 650 do to someone pulling out in front of me. As everything goes mistakes are made, and then corrected. Luckily I was able to keep this mistake from becoming worse by getting the bike to and easier resting point then it could have been. Like I said it was a freak accident, but I might as well make a positive out of it, and get the vfr painted a color I will enjoy.
I know I need to wear riding gear, but being on the bike for an 8 hour day, it just wasn't what I wanted to wear. My mistake. I don't do track days ever, and only go to the tail and other mountain roads from time to time. Most of my time is spent on riding between home and work, and from home to see Family is SC.
Either way, I'm more interested in what would be interesting colors on the new VFR, and what I might expect to pay. I know I made a stupid uncharacteristic mistake on the tail, and I don't need that reported back to me. I can go out to the garage and look at the VFR1200 for a quick reminder.
As I prefaced, I had no idea of your experience and meant no judgement although I know it probably came across that way. Even though I do track days and practice that kind of riding to improve my cornering skills, I am far from accomplished and even light years away from perfect. That's one of the reasons I wear ATGATT even when its 90-100 degrees...to protect me from the mistakes that I will inevitably make somewhere down the road. I'm in healthcare and I just hate to see guys and gals get hurt worse than they have to. I don't think your mistake was "stupid"...uncharacteristic for you perhaps, but any mistake I make is a learning experience. If I make no mistakes I'm only doing what I already know over and over again with no improvement or learning. Hope you get the bike back to how you want it soon.
Sincerely, please. I've been riding, racing, touring for 60 years as of last October. My advice is for you to re-order your priorities thusly: Riding gear, (good quality helmet, boots, gloves, pants, jacket), brakes, suspension, skills, more suspension, skills and finally paint.
You may be so lucky that you have never needed the aforementioned; but if you do it will be too late and feeling sorry won't hack it. Remember no matter how lucky or talented you may become more often than not it's the other 'guy' that will cause the crash. Your a fool if you choose not to protect yourself. Have you never experienced someone turning in front of you? Have you never experienced on coming traffic on your side of the road? Those things are sometimes hard to live through. Good fortune, R~
That Honda RCE electric bike is pretty cool looking. I think I am going to stick to just one color though. I've never been much on paint schemes. I'll go back to the original read if it is cheep enough, or possibly a whole new color if the cost isn't that much more. Might be easier than trying to get the two panels matched exactly.
Most of my riding gear is better suited for winter riding, and that puts me out of it sometimes when I ride on warmer days. I haven't looked in a while for more gear so hear are a few questions.
1. What would you suggest as a good set of Jacket and pants for summer riding? Possibly year round riding, never gets too cold in GA.
- Consider I am 6'2" and 265 lbs built like a football player.
2. I like my Fulmer helmet, but am interested in something with blue tooth capability. Has anyone used the HJC or other helmets with blue tooth?
- I prefer the full face to open, like my fulmer.
3. One thing I have never purchased for riding are shoes. Normally, as in the picture I go out in steel toed shoes. What riding boots/shoes would you recommend?
- Boots/shoes would have to be a 12 size with 4E width.
[image: View Post]quikbrew, on 29 March 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:
Grandall,
Mine's in the repair shop getting sprayed today (just back to the standard red) after a stationary drop - scratched fairing, mirrior body, LH engine case.
However, this seems like an opportunity if you fancy something new. I've not see any custom painted 12's yet. I like the look of the Honda RCE electric bike, which has modern take on the classic Honda racing colours....I reckon the 12 would look great like this... [image: Posted Image]
If you go for a new colour scheme, post some pics
How much is it going to cost you to get the re-spray?
Not piling on here, but there's another benefit I find with ATGATT. As I gear up, it's almost a meditative experience. Each successive item I put on helps me concentrate on the ride ahead. (Must be what knights must've felt like when they put on armour. Or gunfighters putting on their belts...)
So by the time I'm geared up, I'm 100% focused and ready to go.
Glad you got off with just a scratch or two, and best of luck down the road!
I've pondered at length on how I would paint mine if I scratched it up. (that's the only circumstance where I'd bother)
I think the best color on this bike for me would be a dark grey. I have a 2011 4Runner in Magnetic Grey Pearl... I think I'd order up a can of that. I'd leave the inner layer fairings and tail cowls in the standard silver to keep the 2-tone look. Personally I think any stripes or graphics would look tacky.
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 28 March 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:
If I decide to repaint the entire bike, I might go with a color of one of these cars or something close.
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I think that the Civic color would be excellent.
There is also BMW Anthocite that looks very rich and classy.
The silver blade accent through the middle of it would set it off.
P.S.
Glad you weren't hurt and that the bike doesn't seem to have been hurt much either.
You've got lots of ribbing for gear, but don't take it as negative. Folks here are looking out for each other and some may go a bit overbord sometimes.
It's all good.
[image: View Post]phobe, on 29 March 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:
I've pondered at length on how I would paint mine if I scratched it up. (that's the only circumstance where I'd bother)
I think the best color on this bike for me would be a dark grey. I have a 2011 4Runner in Magnetic Grey Pearl... I think I'd order up a can of that. I'd leave the inner layer fairings and tail cowls in the standard silver to keep the 2-tone look. Personally I think any stripes or graphics would look tacky.
[image: View Post]phobe, on 29 March 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:
I've pondered at length on how I would paint mine if I scratched it up. (that's the only circumstance where I'd bother)
I think the best color on this bike for me would be a dark grey. I have a 2011 4Runner in Magnetic Grey Pearl... I think I'd order up a can of that. I'd leave the inner layer fairings and tail cowls in the standard silver to keep the 2-tone look. Personally I think any stripes or graphics would look tacky.
I like the color of that 4runner, and I do only plan on getting the red painted the rest will stay as it is. I like the different colors to accent each other. Also thinking of a darker metallic blue.
Also just ordered the only replacement part I needed. The upper right cowl on the right side of the windscreen. $130 not to bad, but not sure how it is only $64 less than I can order the whole right side middle cowl for $194.
I saw a custom bike a while back that was painted a metallic rootbeer color.....FUCKING GORGEOUS. Lots of options, plus the panels on this bike are so nice anyway that changing the color on the bike won't be a massive undertaking in parts shape, contour, ect....I'm toying with the idea of changing mine up but that will come after all of the carbon fiber parts are on.
[image: View Post]2thdr, on 29 March 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 28 March 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:
[image: View Post]2thdr, on 28 March 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:
Don't know you or your riding skills, BUT if I were you and my riding skills could use some improvement, I would save the paint money and put it towards a track school and some gear. Then I would paint the bike when my skill level was such that my likelihood of ruining another new paint job was less!
I've been riding for 14 years, and have had 15 motorcycles with only one previous mishap. Until laying the vfr down softly Saturday, the only other bike I have ever laid down was my 2007 Burgman 650 do to someone pulling out in front of me. As everything goes mistakes are made, and then corrected. Luckily I was able to keep this mistake from becoming worse by getting the bike to and easier resting point then it could have been. Like I said it was a freak accident, but I might as well make a positive out of it, and get the vfr painted a color I will enjoy.
I know I need to wear riding gear, but being on the bike for an 8 hour day, it just wasn't what I wanted to wear. My mistake. I don't do track days ever, and only go to the tail and other mountain roads from time to time. Most of my time is spent on riding between home and work, and from home to see Family is SC.
Either way, I'm more interested in what would be interesting colors on the new VFR, and what I might expect to pay. I know I made a stupid uncharacteristic mistake on the tail, and I don't need that reported back to me. I can go out to the garage and look at the VFR1200 for a quick reminder.
As I prefaced, I had no idea of your experience and meant no judgement although I know it probably came across that way. Even though I do track days and practice that kind of riding to improve my cornering skills, I am far from accomplished and even light years away from perfect. That's one of the reasons I wear ATGATT even when its 90-100 degrees...to protect me from the mistakes that I will inevitably make somewhere down the road. I'm in healthcare and I just hate to see guys and gals get hurt worse than they have to. I don't think your mistake was "stupid"...uncharacteristic for you perhaps, but any mistake I make is a learning experience. If I make no mistakes I'm only doing what I already know over and over again with no improvement or learning. Hope you get the bike back to how you want it soon.
Also remember Bro that while they may be be beautiful and fast, our 1200's are voluptuous curvy women that know what they want. They've got the steam to go all night but they don't change direction in a flash like those young silly sorority girls used to do.
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 29 March 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:
Most of my riding gear is better suited for winter riding, and that puts me out of it sometimes when I ride on warmer days. I haven't looked in a while for more gear so hear are a few questions.
1. What would you suggest as a good set of Jacket and pants for summer riding? Possibly year round riding, never gets too cold in GA.
- Consider I am 6'2" and 265 lbs built like a football player.
2. I like my Fulmer helmet, but am interested in something with blue tooth capability. Has anyone used the HJC or other helmets with blue tooth?
- I prefer the full face to open, like my fulmer.
3. One thing I have never purchased for riding are shoes. Normally, as in the picture I go out in steel toed shoes. What riding boots/shoes would you recommend?
- Boots/shoes would have to be a 12 size with 4E width.
4. Any other gear suggestions?
Grandall,
Sorry to hear about the mess and hope your pride heals in time from the well deserved lashings our Elder Vfr Council has given you.
SO - for the gear I reccomend taking the hour or so trip south to Cycle Gear on Windy hill off of 75. They carry a ton of inexpensive yet protective gear.
You should be prepared to drop a few hundred on some decent gear.
Learn from one of the better VFR Riders I know - Zoomy from the ATL went down last week in Suches and totalled his bike. He was wearing full leathers and the only thing he had was bad bruising.
Jacket - Shift sells affordable ($85-$150) Mesh Summer jackets with a removable wind/rain liner. I've got one and I love it, it offers great ventilation and good breathability and decent protection. Right now Mountain Motorsports in Marietta (on the way to Cycle Gear) has them $75 off
Pants - Shift, Icon, any other brands of riding pants have protection. They have Jeans, Khakkis or Mesh Pants with slider/protection - Usually around $80-$120
Boots - Dainsese @ Cycle Gear - by far the most comfortable boots, stylish enough that I can wear them with riding jeans and they look restaurant ready. They are currently on sale and run about $180 - $250 - and they carry large
Gloves - Sidici Torino Mesh Gloves - $50 - good flexibility once they break in and strong protection
As for the Bluetooth - don't buy the helmets based on the fact they have bluetooth - buy the helmet and add it if you really need it. I find it distracting but if you really want one buy a year off Shoei on sale for $400 and install a bluetooth headset on it.
All in all you can spend a few hundred, be comfortable, and be protected. As someone mentioned before - you never know when someone is going to turn in front of you. Unfortunatley it happened to me a month ago and my gear took the brunt of it (right hand turn from the left lane right into me)
Fortunatley I saved the bike went with the turn and my boots (ankle protector) gloves, and handlebar took the impact and I was fine - his car not so much!
Good luck and if you ever want to ride down with us - hit us up, once you have your gear =P LOL
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 29 March 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:
Most of my riding gear is better suited for winter riding, and that puts me out of it sometimes when I ride on warmer days. I haven't looked in a while for more gear so hear are a few questions.
1. What would you suggest as a good set of Jacket and pants for summer riding? Possibly year round riding, never gets too cold in GA.
- Consider I am 6'2" and 265 lbs built like a football player.
2. I like my Fulmer helmet, but am interested in something with blue tooth capability. Has anyone used the HJC or other helmets with blue tooth?
- I prefer the full face to open, like my fulmer.
3. One thing I have never purchased for riding are shoes. Normally, as in the picture I go out in steel toed shoes. What riding boots/shoes would you recommend?
- Boots/shoes would have to be a 12 size with 4E width.
4. Any other gear suggestions?
Not the most protection but better than nothing, for summer Compacc has a cortech denim jacket with some armor for $60. It is available in large sizes and ships quickly. It has some venting and as long as you are moving it will work with the liner out. When it gets cold put the liner back in. http://www.compacc.c...SX-Denim-Jacket
For pants compacc has sliders 4.0 that can accept knee armor for $80. The knee armor is $10 bucks more. They also have larger sizes. http://www.compacc.c...ans-4-0/1008008
For boots they also have tourmaster solution 2.0 for $108. They were the only boots i've foubd reasonably in wide sizes. http://www.compacc.c...Road-Boots-Mens
Compacc commercial over. I actually have no affiliation. I like because they are 1 day shipping from me. I'm sick of the bilt stuff cyclegear pushes.
Although these are not leather they have some protection and are better than jeans and jacket without protection. And they are cooler than leather.
The helmet and gloves are to personally fitted for advice.
I don't play race and am very careful. On hot days this is the gear I use. If I did track days or play raced on the street I would have leathers.
Edited by jugornot, 29 March 2012 - 04:27 PM.
Become a member at advrider.com and watch the classifieds. Lots of good deals on slightly used gear. I've purchased Sidi boots, an Olympia Phantom textile suit, Alpinestars leather pants, all in nearly new condition for about 1/2 of what they sell for new.
I'm supposed to be getting it back this evening, but the shop's just told me that they don't think that it's going to be ready in time. There goes the weekend plans! Gutted :sad:
There's a huge amount of good and well intentioned advice here and I'd reinforce it.
Motorcycling is scary dangerous even with the right gear. Gear needs to be seasonal too so one set will rarely do all. Fitness helps hugely imo. I'm pretty fit now but a few years ago was a one hour 25 mile time trialist. I found that I would be comfortable in gear with full protection when my mates were really struggling with the heat. Maybe that's an extreme example but I know that every bit of fitness helps with handling the bike, awareness/alertness, comfort and enjoyment.
I'd no sooner ride without gloves than poop in the street.
Peter
Edited by sanemancured, 30 March 2012 - 04:42 AM.
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 29 March 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:
I like the color of that 4runner, and I do only plan on getting the red painted the rest will stay as it is. I like the different colors to accent each other. Also thinking of a darker metallic blue.
I vote for the metallic blue. I'd take the camaro as well.
I'll make my decision on the paint this weekend. I'm going to ride around and see if I can get a few numbers on the cost. I've looked at the cost of just replacing the fairings, and it's not that bad, $195 left middle cowl, $130 upper cowl (purchased), about $100 for any lower cowls I would think of replacing, and right now I can't seem to find a replacement panel for the bags.
Does anyone know where you can find replacement panels for the bags if I decide to go the replacement route?
Thanks again for all the input.
If I can find a reasonable price for the paint job, I'll get it painted. I actually really want to see this bike in a new color.
[image: View Post]quikbrew, on 30 March 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:
Grandall,
£515 or $818 in your money.
Repair paints & scuff to:
n/s lower panel
n/s top fairing
blend as required
n/s engine cover
n/s bar end
n/s mirror
Supply and fit new Honda badge and VFR decal
I'm supposed to be getting it back this evening, but the shop's just told me that they don't think that it's going to be ready in time. There goes the weekend plans! Gutted :sad:
Just have to change the subject for a minute. Were you riding with the Kawi 1400 and if so how did the two bikes compare? Love to hear your impressions of both. Also, see picture for another color option stealth black. Has anyone been able to duplicate the gorgeous paint that Honda developed for this bike yet. Remember, that was one of the highlights of this new bike was the ultra perfect and deep paint so I doubt very many shops can match the quality.
[image: View Post]choco, on 30 March 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:
Just have to change the subject for a minute. Were you riding with the Kawi 1400 and if so how did the two bikes compare? Love to hear your impressions of both. Also, see picture for another color option stealth black. Has anyone been able to duplicate the gorgeous paint that Honda developed for this bike yet. Remember, that was one of the highlights of this new bike was the ultra perfect and deep paint so I doubt very many shops can match the quality.
Yes, The Kawasaki Concourse 14 belonged to my friend Mike. Though, his 2011 Concourse doesn't even feel the same as my 2008 Concourse 14. With Mikes bike already having the lowered pegs, bar risers, and corbin seat, it just made for a different ride than my 08 connie. The biggest difference made was the Corbin seat, which is completely different from the stock kawasaki seat, and lets you sit much lower on the bike. On a long straight drive you could ride on the concourse, and never feel much different than ridding in a car with a convertible top. The wind almost completely goes around you, and your sitting in a very non aggressive relaxed position. Over all it is very comfortable on the long rides, but to me when you got into the corners it was a little less comfortable, with the pegs scraping a lot, and just too much of a relaxed seating position for me. Still on the 8 hour ride Mike was slightly less sore than I, and didn't get nearly as wet when we ran into an hour of rain. My 2008 concourse with the stock seat, gave a much better feel in the curves to me, and though it was not as comfortable as Mike's 11, it was still a little more forgiving on the longer trips than the vfr1200. The Concourse is really a sport touring touring bike, and the vfr1200 comes off more of a sport sport touring bike. The VFR1200 did great on the whole trip, and I stayed comfortable for the most part. With my heli bars my wrist only got slightly sore after long periods of riding. Nothing a few minutes of rest wouldn't take care of while getting gas. Aside from my one mishap on the tail, the vfr1200 road and felt better to me on the twisties. Even Mike had to admit the VFR felt a lot more maneuverable through the corners. Over all they are both great bikes, and I wouldn't be mad to have either in my garage. I will say this though sticker price to sticker price the Concourse would have the edge for me. At 16K each, the concourse just comes with a lot more standard features; heated grips, bags, center stand , and luggage rack. With the big discounts on the VFR, its better looks, and performance I would side with the VFR1200.
Any more questions feel free to ask.
Edited by grandall1972, 30 March 2012 - 02:40 PM.
I'm suprised you got a Concours owner to admit the VFR was better at anything. I get snubbed less when riding by harley guys on the road since I sold my 08 Connie for my VFR.
Very open minded, spot on comparison of the 2 bikes. They both have their plusses depending on how you want to ride. The VFR just fits my riding style better.
I'm putting together a cost comparison on whether or not to get the bike painted or to just buy all new parts. Here are a few questions.
1. Does anyone know where to locate just the outer part of the cases?
- I can find every replacement part on the bike, but I can not find any replacement pieces for my side cases.
2. The parts list as CANDY PROMINENCE RED. Does that mean they come pre-painted the original color of the bike?
- No need to get replacement parts if I have to paint them anyways. I'll find I out if the parts come painted when I get my upper cowl though.
3. I've been to one shop, and they told me it might be hard to paint the bike and get the paint to stick with out worry of peeling. Any thoughts on this?
[image: View Post]Monk, on 02 April 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:
Hard to paint without peeling???????
Find someone that knows how to prep a surface, if you go that route.......
That's what I thought. They were the first body shop I had gone to. I haven't had time to drive by anymore shops because of work. So I figured I would post the question here to see if anyone else had heard of anything like that.
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 02 April 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:
3. I've been to one shop, and they told me it might be hard to paint the bike and get the paint to stick with out worry of peeling. Any thoughts on this?
I'd pass on that shop. Either they don't know what the hell they are doing or they really don't want to do the work. There is no reason to worry about paint peeling if the surface and paint is prepped/shot/dried correctly.
I'd like to comment on wearing steel toed boots. In MSF rider course they recommend against steel toes because if your toes are bent upward, the steel toes can cut your toes off.
Be very careful where you get the bike repainted, whatever colour you decide on. The repair shop have made a mess of mine :angry: :
The colour match on the fairing is really poor - it looks like a different colour all together.
The fairing has not been refitted correctly and the clips have been damaged, so that the inner fairing is not mating-up properly.
The left-hand fuel tank cover, must have been moved when they took the fairing off and now my fingers get trapped on full steering lock between the bar and the tank.
They've splashed silver paint on the black section and glass of the right-hand mirror!?
I asked them to touch-up a scuff on the driveshaft - the driveshaft cover now has a big hole in it and the bracket that connects it to the driveshaft is snapped.
There's a chip in the silver paint on the left-hand mirror
....Basically, the bike now looks like shit...it was better with the scratches.
And all this at a place that came recommended to me...and they do bikes all the time! The repair shop boss was on holiday(vacation) when the bike went in, so I think his guys have done a rush-job, they did complain to me that 2 days wasn't sufficient time to do all the work.
Anyway, I've complained and I've just received an email from their boss to say that he is back from holiday...and he's going to speak to the guys who did the repairs. Let's see if he puts it right :pissed:
[image: View Post]quikbrew, on 03 April 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:
Grandall,
Be very careful where you get the bike repainted, whatever colour you decide on. The repair shop have made a mess of mine :angry: :
The colour match on the fairing is really poor - it looks like a different colour all together.
The fairing has not been refitted correctly and the clips have been damaged, so that the inner fairing is not mating-up properly.
The left-hand fuel tank cover, must have been moved when they took the fairing off and now my fingers get trapped on full steering lock between the bar and the tank.
They've splashed silver paint on the black section and glass of the right-hand mirror!?
I asked them to touch-up a scuff on the driveshaft - the driveshaft cover now has a big hole in it and the bracket that connects it to the driveshaft is snapped.
There's a chip in the silver paint on the left-hand mirror
....Basically, the bike now looks like shit...it was better with the scratches.
And all this at a place that came recommended to me...and they do bikes all the time! The repair shop boss was on holiday(vacation) when the bike went in, so I think his guys have done a rush-job, they did complain to me that 2 days wasn't sufficient time to do all the work.
Anyway, I've complained and I've just received an email from their boss to say that he is back from holiday...and he's going to speak to the guys who did the repairs. Let's see if he puts it right :pissed:
Watch this space!
Yeah that is why I am leaning more and more to just getting replacement parts. Cost is close to the same as getting the bike painted, if not a little less. I would rather have the bike stay the same color, than have a shop mess the bike up worse then it is now. Let me know how it turns out. I'm still on the fence, because I would really like to see what my bike would look like another color.
I would suggest when going to a paint shop, that the owner of the bike remove all the parts themselves for two reasons....1 - Gets it done cheaper ; 2 - Nothing for them to mess up.
Don't get a painter to fix your motor, or a mechanic to paint your bike...... With the exception of ppl like SebSpeed, etc.
If you're gonna keep it the same color, JMHO but I would just order the middle faring so the paint matches up right. I had to replace my middle right. The paint from the new one matches perfectly. 250 bucks and 10 minutes to replace.
For the saddlebag I would just tape off the bad bag cover creatively and hit it with spray in bedliner. It holds up well and matches the lower faring and rear fender. its not like the bags arent gonna get torn up by boots, rocks, etc later anyway. 5 bucks and some tape/sandpaper. If you do it and dont like it then get it painted or replace the bag and you're out 5 bucks. If you do like it, do the other bag.
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 28 March 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Switchblade, on 28 March 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:
PURCHASE SOME GEAR FIRST !!!!!!
Only reason I said I was going to purchase the pictures immediately is, because I did not want to use killboys pictures with out purchasing them first. They took the time to take and post the pictures, and if I want to use the pics I should at least purchase them. You are right though, I do need to improve my ridding gear, and will soon.
And next time let me know, i will guide you and give some free advice.
[image: View Post]tin, on 03 April 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:
If you're gonna keep it the same color, JMHO but I would just order the middle faring so the paint matches up right. I had to replace my middle right. The paint from the new one matches perfectly. 250 bucks and 10 minutes to replace.
For the saddlebag I would just tape off the bad bag cover creatively and hit it with spray in bedliner. It holds up well and matches the lower faring and rear fender. its not like the bags arent gonna get torn up by boots, rocks, etc later anyway. 5 bucks and some tape/sandpaper. If you do it and dont like it then get it painted or replace the bag and you're out 5 bucks. If you do like it, do the other bag.
That is actually the route I was thinking about. I've just been trying to figure out how I want to tape/paint the rear bags. I like what he did with the concourse, but I would have to do it to just the front of the bags. The middle side cowl can be purchased for 192.64 from powersportsplus. I just got the upper right cowl in from them and it's perfect.
I think I'll just order the replacement parts and fix it the cheap way. Good suggestion.
I would think that if I had to have damage on the bag the front would be the best to do a undercoat spray to. Nobody who doesn't own a vfr will ever think that it is anything other than a factory chip protection coat. I went with a light coat of 3m professional grade undercoating over a rubberized bumper coat and it matched the frame color and texture perfect. I mean perfect, perfect.
Hey Tin. Do you remember what brand bumper paint you used? I wonder if this would work on the plastic frame guards near the foot pegs which get scratched up from boots...
[image: View Post]tin, on 03 April 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:
I would think that if I had to have damage on the bag the front would be the best to do a undercoat spray to. Nobody who doesn't own a vfr will ever think that it is anything other than a factory chip protection coat. I went with a light coat of 3m professional grade undercoating over a rubberized bumper coat and it matched the frame color and texture perfect. I mean perfect, perfect.
Thanks, if you can get the exact paint you used for the bags for me I'd appreciate it.
I just ordered the right side middle fairing. Hopefully it will be here within a week and I can finish the VFR to get it back to its original form or at least close. Things I could still order; lower right fairings, engine case cover, and silver middle cowl insert. All these have unnoticeable scratches, but if you get withing inches you will see them here and there.
[image: View Post]eastbowl2, on 04 April 2012 - 06:37 AM, said:
Hey Tin. Do you remember what brand bumper paint you used? I wonder if this would work on the plastic frame guards near the foot pegs which get scratched up from boots...
The rubberized bumper coat is Dupli-Color. Both are pretty much available at any auto parts store. The only reason I used the bumper coat underneath is to match the texture of the frame. The bumper coat by itself is really good for matching any black plastics that are scratched. Its just not as durable by itself so they have to be low traffic.
Once I get finished moving, I need to get back on my project of removing the silver. I think this method will hold up better on the metal parts. Rear pegs, rearsets and swingarm. I'm scared since the pegs and rearsets get the most wear from boot scratches. But then again I just need to do these since the silver is already scratched to hell so I guess I have nothing to lose. The key to everything is dry time. It takes like a week for this stuff to really harden to where it can take a boot scratch.
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 04 April 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:
[image: View Post]tin, on 03 April 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:
I would think that if I had to have damage on the bag the front would be the best to do a undercoat spray to. Nobody who doesn't own a vfr will ever think that it is anything other than a factory chip protection coat. I went with a light coat of 3m professional grade undercoating over a rubberized bumper coat and it matched the frame color and texture perfect. I mean perfect, perfect.
Thanks, if you can get the exact paint you used for the bags for me I'd appreciate it.
I just ordered the right side middle fairing. Hopefully it will be here within a week and I can finish the VFR to get it back to its original form or at least close. Things I could still order; lower right fairings, engine case cover, and silver middle cowl insert. All these have unnoticeable scratches, but if you get withing inches you will see them here and there.
I have to run by autozone today so I can double check while I am there. Now I am second guessing whether the topcoat was 3m or rustoleum. I'll know when I look at the can. The good news is you will have spare parts to test and get your technique down on. I wish I would have kept my old damaged middle cowl so I could try stuff out on it. Live and learn I guess.
BTW. The new cowls will not have attaching hardware on them so you will have to swap that hardware from the old ones. Just kind of an FYI. I almost threw away my old cowls before the new ones got in. That would have been bad.
Your comparison reflects most of the magazine writers views too. The VFR 1200 is more sporty on the sport tour scale. It's really starting to grow on me. I think the Kawi would be a solid second choice. Thanks for responding.
[image: View Post]tin, on 04 April 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 04 April 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:
[image: View Post]tin, on 03 April 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:
I would think that if I had to have damage on the bag the front would be the best to do a undercoat spray to. Nobody who doesn't own a vfr will ever think that it is anything other than a factory chip protection coat. I went with a light coat of 3m professional grade undercoating over a rubberized bumper coat and it matched the frame color and texture perfect. I mean perfect, perfect.
Thanks, if you can get the exact paint you used for the bags for me I'd appreciate it.
I just ordered the right side middle fairing. Hopefully it will be here within a week and I can finish the VFR to get it back to its original form or at least close. Things I could still order; lower right fairings, engine case cover, and silver middle cowl insert. All these have unnoticeable scratches, but if you get withing inches you will see them here and there.
I have to run by autozone today so I can double check while I am there. Now I am second guessing whether the topcoat was 3m or rustoleum. I'll know when I look at the can. The good news is you will have spare parts to test and get your technique down on. I wish I would have kept my old damaged middle cowl so I could try stuff out on it. Live and learn I guess.
BTW. The new cowls will not have attaching hardware on them so you will have to swap that hardware from the old ones. Just kind of an FYI. I almost threw away my old cowls before the new ones got in. That would have been bad.
Thanks when you get the exact paints let me know. It will at least give me a head start.
Here are a few of my ideas for the rear bags.
- What do you think, and any ideas on other ways to make the paint look good and purposeful.
- Ignore my poor capabilities with paint on my cpu.
First to try and just cover up what is there and give a little top taper with protection.
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Second Kind of the same thing the other guy did to his Concourse but in reverse.
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Third trying to bring the silver part of the middle cowl angle into the bags and make it look a little different.
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Does your insurance cover any of the damage repair?
I think I have read where sometimes your collision insurance will apply. Less your deductible of course.
Just a thought.
Why isn't there a "Badge of Honor" (or maybe Shame) decal/sticker that explains the damage?
I could even apply it to my parking lot drop damage. :tongue:
Ps. Glad to see you are keeping the original color. Love that color. :smile:
Checked when I was at AZ and it was dupli-color bumper coat under rust-oleum professional grade undercoat. I remember I used undercoat instead of the bedliner coat because it flexed more with the plastic. 4k miles and no chips. Of course I dont think the bags will flex though.
[image: View Post]CharlesW, on 04 April 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:
Does your insurance cover any of the damage repair?
I think I have read where sometimes your collision insurance will apply. Less your deductible of course.
Just a thought.
Why isn't there a "Badge of Honor" (or maybe Shame) decal/sticker that explains the damage?
I could even apply it to my parking lot drop damage. :tongue:
Ps. Glad to see you are keeping the original color. Love that color. :smile:
It would cover it, but the deductible is pretty close to what it takes to fix everything myself. Just easier and cheaper to do the work myself. I like the idea of having the protective coating on the bags as well. If they sold just the outer part of the bags, I would just buy new pieces, but painting them will just be easier and cheaper. Should turn out nice as well. As long as I take my time.
Agggh!!! Maybe I"ve just had a bad day but I just can't stand it any more !!!
THE ROAD IS CALLED THE DRAGON...
The Tail of the Dragon is a souvenir shop set up in a tent at Deals Gap by the intrsection of 129 and 28.
So the question is...did you crash into the tent or did you crash on the Dragon?
Your not the first person and I'm sure you will not be the last, but please...Dragon...Dragon...Dragon.
forget about the tail.
[image: View Post]Gears, on 04 April 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:
Agggh!!! Maybe I"ve just had a bad day but I just can't stand it any more !!!
THE ROAD IS CALLED THE DRAGON...
The Tail of the Dragon is a souvenir shop set up in a tent at Deals Gap by the intrsection of 129 and 28.
So the question is...did you crash into the tent or did you crash on the Dragon?
Your not the first person and I'm sure you will not be the last, but please...Dragon...Dragon...Dragon.
forget about the tail.
[image: View Post]Gears, on 04 April 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:
Agggh!!! Maybe I"ve just had a bad day but I just can't stand it any more !!!
THE ROAD IS CALLED THE DRAGON...
The Tail of the Dragon is a souvenir shop set up in a tent at Deals Gap by the intrsection of 129 and 28.
So the question is...did you crash into the tent or did you crash on the Dragon?
Your not the first person and I'm sure you will not be the last, but please...Dragon...Dragon...Dragon.
forget about the tail.
Oh yeah, wear gloves.
I'll just keep calling it the tail of the dragon. I laid my bike against the ridge on US Route 129. Either way, I'm pretty sure 99% of people know where you are talking about when you tell them you road the dragon or the tail of the dragon. Other than that you can look us 129 on wikipedia, here is the link. Not saying wikipedia is always correct, but it refer to the 11 miles and 318 curves as both the Tail of the Dragon first, and just The Dragon second.
If the road is "The Dragon" and the store at the end is "Tail of the Dragon", I'm gonna open a store right up the hill from them and name it "Butt of the Dragon".
[image: View Post]Gears, on 04 April 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:
Agggh!!! Maybe I"ve just had a bad day but I just can't stand it any more !!! THE ROAD IS CALLED THE DRAGON... The Tail of the Dragon is a souvenir shop set up in a tent at Deals Gap by the intrsection of 129 and 28. So the question is...did you crash into the tent or did you crash on the Dragon? Your not the first person and I'm sure you will not be the last, but please...Dragon...Dragon...Dragon. forget about the tail. Oh yeah, wear gloves.
I've always seen "129" on the signs when I go down there every year. I always assumed that was the name of the road?
[image: View Post]Cam2, on 05 April 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Gears, on 04 April 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:
Agggh!!! Maybe I"ve just had a bad day but I just can't stand it any more !!! THE ROAD IS CALLED THE DRAGON... The Tail of the Dragon is a souvenir shop set up in a tent at Deals Gap by the intrsection of 129 and 28. So the question is...did you crash into the tent or did you crash on the Dragon? Your not the first person and I'm sure you will not be the last, but please...Dragon...Dragon...Dragon. forget about the tail. Oh yeah, wear gloves.
I've always seen "129" on the signs when I go down there every year. I always assumed that was the name of the road?
I think you're right. Just looked it up on google and the only road names it says on that part of NC and TN are US 129 and State Highway 115. Does have the tail of the dragon store on the map though.
Looks like I am going to be waiting another week for the ride side middle cowl. Yesterday they said it would be shipped out today, and today it says it will be shipped out the 10th. Gives me more time to decide what I want to do with the rear bags. I'm leaning to either picture 1 or picture 3.
Very surprised that nobody wants to paint those engine covers to black. That grey just seems to be an oddball color on the bike to me since the only place you see that color is on the engine. I can see if someone wants to keep the bike original looking though. Cant wait to get a scratch on mine so I have a reason to repaint them. No dice so far though.
[image: View Post]tin, on 15 April 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:
Very surprised that nobody wants to paint those engine covers to black. That grey just seems to be an oddball color on the bike to me since the only place you see that color is on the engine. I can see if someone wants to keep the bike original looking though. Cant wait to get a scratch on mine so I have a reason to repaint them. No dice so far though.
Take a look at the VFR's 1200 sold for the local market in Japan. The engine in black!!!
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 29 March 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:
I know I can get a lot of it to buff out, but I am really just tempted to go with a different color. I fell in love with that titanium color the first time I saw it online. To me, the titanium blade really just makes the bike shine to me.
I would assume it would use high temp rtv. At least that was what it used on my old kawasakis when they didn't specify a gasket in the parts breakdown pic.
edit: this is nothing more than an assumption though. i have never broken them open to actually see for myself.
Edited by tin, 17 April 2012 - 11:39 AM.
[image: View Post]tin, on 17 April 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:
I would assume it would use high temp rtv. At least that was what it used on my old kawasakis when they didn't specify a gasket in the parts breakdown pic.
edit: this is nothing more than an assumption though. i have never broken them open to actually see for myself.
You're probably right, either way we'll find out the next time the bike is ready for an oil change.
[image: View Post]Hvrnaut, on 20 April 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:
[image: View Post]grandall1972, on 16 April 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:
Does anyone know how much the seal/gasket for the right side crank case cover cost? Also where can I order it?
grandall,
Are you replacing the (scuffed) right side crankcase cover? If so, is this requiring a new gasket seal? Just trying to figure out to do with mine...
Is this a project you're taking on yourself? If so, how much is involved?
Sorry for the 20 questions! Trying to get my bike back to "new" again. Pissed about the slight scuff marks.
Thanks
Yes, I will be replacing the scuffed right side crankcase cover and the two lower cowls that got slightly scratched. I will be doing this in about another 1000 miles, or the next time I do my oil change. Not sure on whether or not it needs a seal. I've been looking and have not been able to find a part number for one, and if anyone else knows for sure let me know. Once this is done, my vfr will be back to better than new.
I will be taking on the replacing of parts myself, and not sure what all will be involved. Though, from the looks of it, it should not take too much effort or work to take everything off and put new pieces back on. The middle cowls and upper cowl, , were very easy to replace.
So far the paint on the bags looks great and is holding up well.
I scratched my side panel today unfortunately and have a quick question you can likely help me with....
With regards to the new middle cowl replacement panels you ordered, does the main red side panel also include the Honda badge? For the silver inner panel, does it include the "VFR1200" lettering/sticker?
Trying to figure out if I need to order the badge and stickers separately or if they are part of the replacement panels....
I scratched my side panel today unfortunately and have a quick question you can likely help me with....
With regards to the new middle cowl replacement panels you ordered, does the main red side panel also include the Honda badge? For the silver inner panel, does it include the "VFR1200" lettering/sticker?
Trying to figure out if I need to order the badge and stickers separately or if they are part of the replacement panels....
Many Thanks;
Eric
It's complete (badges, protection strips etc.). You just have to put it on.
Just received the right middle cowl and right mirror cover. I've decided that I'm going with the R&G Racing engine covers for both the right and left sides of the engine. It gives the bike the look I want, although I'm going to be a reluctant billboard for R&G. (The logo on the cover(s) is more than just a sticker. Loos like it can't be removed without marring the plastic, thereby ruining the look of the cover)
I had planned on painting or replacing the right crankcase cover, but I think this will give me an option to fix or repair it later, if I want. Not to mention the added protection for the engine.
Looking forward to getting my bike back to looking good.
[image: View Post]vfrflanders, on 15 April 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:
Take a look at the VFR's 1200 sold for the local market in Japan. The engine in black!!!
I Googled this and didn't find anything obvious at first, so I got skeptical and went to the Japanese Honda website and just started clicking blindly until I found something... sure enough you are right, for the standard transmission anyway. Here is the best link I could get to. Looks very nice. :fing02:
Great link. Shows a direct comparison between the black and ...whatever color Honda calls it.
Definitely feel good about the black covers now! It'll be nice to get this bodywork done. Then, I can quit staring at the damned thing and do some more riding! lol!
I've been busy and until yesterday hadn't had much time to ride the vfr. After washing it today, I feel better about waiting until my next oil change to replace the last three pieces, including the crank cover.
It's already been answered, but yes the middle red cowl comes with everything that is needed on the outside. The only thing you have to do is take the clips, snaps, and other pieces off the inside and move them to the new fender. Really easy only takes a few minutes. Just take you time taking everything apart and it will all go back together easily.
I road down to Marietta with my wife yesterday to her brother's house, about 85 miles each way, and over all the bike road great. The only thing that bothered me and has bothered me from the beginning is the seat cover. I don't mind the seat at all and actually find it pretty comfortable. The seat cover however is just too slippery, and it's hard to keep just myself in place let alone my wife sliding into me every time I hit the brakes. Does anyone know of a good seat cover replacement, that doesn't allow you to slide like your on a slip and slide? I might just start a new thread for this question.
I use craftsman anti-skid toolbox drawer liner cut to fit for the gf. crap works great for keeping her butt planted. Just put a 12" square of it between her butt and the seat. 25 cent fix.
[image: View Post]tin, on 06 May 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:
I use craftsman anti-skid toolbox drawer liner cut to fit for the gf. crap works great for keeping her butt planted. Just put a 12" square of it between her butt and the seat. 25 cent fix.
Sounds like a great cheap and easy fix. I'll have to try it the next time we go for a ride. I could use a little grip myself, so I might cut two squares and then we can both stay in our own seats.
Put the R&G engine covers on right and left side. I think it looks great. I highly recommend these covers over painting, etc. The covers were about the same cost of replacing one oem side cover, minus the work involved. A nice and "easy" solution, imho.
Not thrilled, but not bent out of shape about having the R&G logo in the center of the covers, but I guess, since it's their (excellent) product, they've earned it.
Replaced the right mirror cover (easy) and the middle cowl. Not really easy, but not too terribly difficult. Online video was very useful.
Bike is back to looking perfect. Next is a new exhaust...
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