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20 posts Started 5 Aug 2013 Last recovered post 7 Aug 2013 Wayback Machine snapshot 31 Oct 2013

#1

Can you run a high mount exhaust with soft side bags? I'm thinking I'm tired of looking at my mid mount slip on and was thinking about ordering a high mount pipe. The bags only go on for overnight trips (i.e. long rides) Would I have to cough up the cash for a carbon muffler? I feel like the answer is obvious but never hurts for a second, third, or twentieth opinion. 

-Benny


#2

I wouldn't do this without carbon mufflers and even then I would probably worry about it a little.


#3

fab up a sheet metal heat shield for the bag.  :beer:

 you should only have to drill a couple of holes and trim the thing to size.. bolt it to where the bags bolt to.

 as for a carbon muffler.. they just have more packing..

 pack yours if you want.


#4

Using aluminum? 


I only run bags on rare occasions but I really think the high mount exhaust transforms the look of the bike. But I'm unwilling to invest in something that will limit the use of my bike. 


#5

how will a heat shield that comes off with the bag limit your use?? :mellow:

 you could use some aluminum for the heat shield bent it and bolt it to the grab handle bolts.. do both sides.. that way it would help the bags stay in place. :wheel:


DOH!! you DONT have the high mount yet . :goofy:


#6

Sorry I should've been more clear, I meant investing in the exhaust! haha :comp13:


#7

For what it's worth, I have a TBR high-mount exhaust on my 5th-gen and have discovered I can use my Tourmaster sport saddlebags as long as 1) I don't cram them with too much gear, and 2)  by being creative with the velcro  straps used to hold the bags together so that they will end up riding higher on the seat toward the rear vs. near the front of the same.

Note that these bags are designed so that the bottoms slant uphill from the front towards the rear, so mounting them in a position more forward along the seat helps to prevent them from making contact with the hot exhaust pipe..


#8

Co-worker of mine runs high mount carbon fiber cans on a Ducati Monster.  He uses soft saddle bags almost daily.  Not sure if he has added any heat shield to the bags.


#9
 as for a carbon muffler.. they just have more packing..

Carbon fiber doesn't absorb or transmit heat like metal.  It has very low thermal conductance.


#10

Now I've just got to decide which high-mount carbon exhaust to buy... time for some reading and probably a new thread.  :wink:


#11

If you are only going to use the bags on rare occasions, then why not just hang onto your stock muffler and swap them on the rare occation that you use the side bags.  That way you have the nice look of the high mount in everyday use, and dont have to worry about the bags getting melted.  I't dosen't take long at all to swap the exhaust on a 5th gen.  Maybe 10 minutes tops, and probably more like 5 after you've done it a few times. As a side not to keep in mind, I prefer a quieter exhaust on long trips as my aftermarket one can get on my nerves after a 500 mile day, even with earplugs.  Love it day to day, but just too loud after 10+ hours on the road. 


#12
 as for a carbon muffler.. they just have more packing..

Carbon fiber doesn't absorb or transmit heat like metal.  It has very low thermal conductance.

your are correct.. so THEY BURN!!

to stop this from happening the companies add more packing to the pipe.

 i do a lot of pipe chopping and repair. carbon ALWAYS have the most.


#13

Would I be foolish to assume that if I had a Delkevic high mount mid pipe, that It would match up to a Two Brothers Black Series carbon muffler?  :comp13:


#14

Would I be foolish to assume that if I had a Delkevic high mount mid pipe, that It would match up to a Two Brothers Black Series carbon muffler?  :comp13:

all you have to do is measure the pipe diameter. at the inlet and exit.  if its the same. you're ready to rock! :beer:


#15

Would I be foolish to assume that if I had a Delkevic high mount mid pipe, that It would match up to a Two Brothers Black Series carbon muffler?  :comp13:

all you have to do is measure the pipe diameter. at the inlet and exit.  if its the same. you're ready to rock! :beer:

There is a name brand exhaust cans, it might be Two Bros, that do not have a slip on fit connection.  They have a 3 bolt triangular flange that the can bolts to the pipe.  Make sure you can slip fit it or you'll need to weld a flange to your mid-pipe.


#17

Can you run a high mount exhaust with soft side bags? I'm thinking I'm tired of looking at my mid mount slip on and was thinking about ordering a high mount pipe. The bags only go on for overnight trips (i.e. long rides) Would I have to cough up the cash for a carbon muffler? I feel like the answer is obvious but never hurts for a second, third, or twentieth opinion. 

-Benny

We decide not to.  I have the stock pipe and my son has a high mount Staintune.  The softbags would burn on the Staintune.  On our trip to Indy we ran across a guy with high a mount pipe and a homemade heat shield.  Something like this might work for you.  You could remove it when not using the softbags

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#18

Having the bottom of your bag burned and the stuff in the bottom of it burned sucks.

Been there, burned the T shirt. :rolleyes:


#19

I have a DAM exhaust and even after a 850km ride they are still touchable, never seen them go over 50~55C.

Whereas other exhausts would burn your hands and even melt plastic.

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It does not get hot, not even after a very long ride.


#20

Ventura rack and bags. No worries about exhaust.

Can face either way for carrying a passenger or riding solo.

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I wish the Ventura rack system didn't make my CB1000R look like hell.  I really like the utility and practicality!  Still waiting on my SW Motech Blaze system...

http://shop.sw-motec...s Set/index.htm


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