Are there any inexpensive Honda parts bin rearsets that will fit a 6th gen lower engine cushion? I.e. CBR 929/954/1000 RC51 etc.
I'm trying to build a 5th gen track bike and I'm considering a 6th gen cushion to allow me some options with the rear sets. I want to go 1 up, 5 down on the shift pattern.
Any input would be appreciated. Thanks....
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What is the distance between the mounting holes on your 6th gen ?
I had trouble locating race rearsets to suit my 4th Gen - which uses 78mm mountings.
I was told that early CBR900 Fireblade rearsets are also 78mm but have not found a set to borrow as yet.
No, not really as everything else seems to use different bolt spread.
I made a simple bracket for my 6th gen track pig that raised and slightly pushed back the pegs .
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PS I do have a set of adjustable rearsets for a 5th gen if Seb ever sends them back.
BR
No, not really as everything else seems to use different bolt spread.
I made a simple bracket for my 6th gen track pig that raised and pushed back the pegs slightly.
[image: attachicon.gif]vtec track project 023.jpg
PS I do have a set of adjustable rearsets for a 5th gen if Seb ever sends them back.
BR
Clever little adjustment there BR!
Might even be able to use something similar to account for a different bolt spacing.... Thanks!
What is the distance between the mounting holes on your 6th gen ?
I had trouble locating race rearsets to suit my 4th Gen - which uses 78mm mountings.
I was told that early CBR900 Fireblade rearsets are also 78mm but have not found a set to borrow as yet.
I measured 2.5" on the lower cushion I have in the garage... I guess I should have done that in mm... looks 63 or 64 mm. The CBR929 are about 57mm.
BTW... I'm measuring center to center on the holes.
I've asked Kayla at Projection Components if she'd be interested in making some adaptor plates, I think the CBR600F4i rearset will work (same brake m/c mounts, has a gear shift linkage)
That should open up the options a little, although it's just a theory at this stage!
Nope. If you can look that up in the fiche and provide a link, I'll be happy to apologize.Honda CBR929 & 954 rear sets should bolt straight on, they use the same lower cushion !
I've asked Kayla at Projection Components if she'd be interested in making some adaptor plates, I think the CBR600F4i rearset will work (same brake m/c mounts, has a gear shift linkage)
That should open up the options a little, although it's just a theory at this stage!
Please confirm bolt spacing on this! Anyone have an F4i sitting around? Different rear sets was half the reason I did the 6 gen mod. I was just looking at some F4i pics and even if the bolt spacing is correct the geometry of the pedals might be out. On the 6 gen the rear set mounting bolts are straight up vertical. On the F4i the top bolt is angled behind the lower mounting bolt. As such if they did fit, the rear set would be rotated forward and put the brake and shift levers lower in relation to where they are now. One might be able to adjust the levers to bring them back up, the question would be if there is enough adjustment available, particularly on the brake M/C side of the equation.
No Honda ones I'm aware of but I may be able to get you some made by a German mob which are on longer in production. Real nice. I have a set installed on my 6th gen. Thurn I think is the brand.
I've asked Kayla at Projection Components if she'd be interested in making some adaptor plates, I think the CBR600F4i rearset will work (same brake m/c mounts, has a gear shift linkage)
That should open up the options a little, although it's just a theory at this stage!
Please confirm bolt spacing on this! Anyone have an F4i sitting around? Diferent raer sets was half the reason I did the 6 gen mod.
I don't think the F4i's bolt on, I'm talking about adapter plates so you can use other rearsets. VFR one side, whatever you want (CBR600F4i in this case) on the other.
Like this: http://www.projectio...lates-488-p.asp
These are designed to move the standard pegs up & back, but there's no reason you couldn't move the holes closer for less spacing/rise, then adapt them to whatever rearset you would like to use.
The F4i rearsets look like they should work with the other VFR (6th gen) hardware, but with enough time & effort, you make pretty much anything work.
Edit: Read the rest of your post, I haven't had a good look at the VFR rear MC, but the clevis should be adjustable for brake lever height.
What is the end goal here?
Different looks with same peg position?
Different peg position?
You can't simply find a set with the same bolt spacing and bolt them on. Inevitably, the peg will be in the wrong position, as the set will have come from a frame with a different mounting angle, or the triangulation of the set mount holes and peg position will be off.
Good point... my goal is to switch to a GP shift pattern (1 up, 5 down) for a 5th gen track bike at minimum cost... any suggestions would be appreciated :)
Same here. I was looking at the new 800 and it is suppose to have a quick shifter option which I would "think" would be a moto gp pattern.................I may wait until the parts are out for that and just buy the new parts for the left rear set and go that route if it works out. I believe I saw something in the new 800 pics that looked like a different set up from the stock 6 gen stuff which is what it has normally.
What is the end goal here?
Different looks with same peg position?
Different peg position?
You can't simply find a set with the same bolt spacing and bolt them on. Inevitably, the peg will be in the wrong position, as the set will have come from a frame with a different mounting angle, or the triangulation of the set mount holes and peg position will be off.
Not sure if you mean me or the OP, but my goal is to avoid spending $600 on Sato rearsets for my trackbike :goofy:
F4i peg mounts are around 15 off vertical (tilted back) vs VFRs basically straight up & down - with adjustable rearsets you should be able to get pretty close to stock, or really high & back if you want. You could even add in the angle to the spacer to keep the original F4i peg geometry...
Like I said, it's just a theory at this point, but the F4i uses the same rear m/c, so that will bolt up & most rear sets for it have the lever swivelling around the peg & a linkage for the gear selection, which will also open up race shift if you want it.
If the spacers aren't too expensive, I'll order a set & a cheap set of Dan Moto rearsets to experiment with.
Nope. If you can look that up in the fiche and provide a link, I'll be happy to apologize.Honda CBR929 & 954 rear sets should bolt straight on, they use the same lower cushion !
Hey yycviffer, can you take a quick look at your other rearsets post?
Nope. If you can look that up in the fiche and provide a link, I'll be happy to apologize.Honda CBR929 & 954 rear sets should bolt straight on, they use the same lower cushion !
It's not the same part, but I'm pretty sure it's the same bolt spacing for the rear set mounts. I'm sure someone on here or VFR World has already done it. Just nip down your local dealer or bike meet & measure them ! After market ones have shift rods to allow rearsets pegs to activate the shifter , can be made to work 1-N-6 or 6-N-1 race pattern.
It is not the same spacing. I just recently tried fitting this 929RR Sato rearset to my VTEC. It is close, but it will not bolt on.
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If the spacers aren't too expensive, I'll order a set & a cheap set of Dan Moto rearsets to experiment with.
This is your best bet - buy the rearset kit at the best price you can find (or you are comfortable with) and fit them to your bike with custom adapters.
Honda CBR929 & 954 rear sets should bolt straight on, they use the same lower cushion !
I kinda glossed over the obvious when I initially read this. Several of the people interested in this mod are building track bikes. I think the obvious answer was overlooked and perhaps those building track bikes need the CBR part instead of the VFR! Plentiful CBR rearsets out there with reversible linkages, OEM and aftermarket.
Looks like I'm the guinea pig on this one. I'll let y'all know in 7-10 days... :rolleyes:
I have often wondered if there is any advantage to using a shift linkage (with a shift rod) over a standard mount shift lever (directly mounted) other than ability to switch to GP shift pattern?
I have often wondered if there is any advantage to using a shift linkage (with a shift rod) over a standard mount shift lever (directly mounted) other than ability to switch to GP shift pattern?
The 2014/15 VFR800 rearsets will do the trick, all you have to do is find them.
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BR
I have often wondered if there is any advantage to using a shift linkage (with a shift rod) over a standard mount shift lever (directly mounted) other than ability to switch to GP shift pattern?
More adjustbility on where the shift lever is, other than that...
The 2014/15 VFR800 rearsets will do the trick, all you have to do is find them.
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BR
Wow, they look quite good actually! Is that a quick shifter sensor?
No, not really as everything else seems to use different bolt spread.
I made a simple bracket for my 6th gen track pig that raised and slightly pushed back the pegs .
[image: attachicon.gif]vtec track project 023.jpg
PS I do have a set of adjustable rearsets for a 5th gen if Seb ever sends them back.
BR
i think I have first dibs on those, no?
The 2014/15 VFR800 rearsets will do the trick, all you have to do is find them.
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BR
I thought I had seen a picture! Thanks BR. I think I will wait and get OE parts. If my spacial reasoning is accurate, they are keeping the same shift pattern with the "quick shifter" though. Easy enough to switch.
I mentioned that I was getting a CBR954 rear cushion to try out as a track bike or no center stand option, but it just occurred to me that the pivot bolt may be a larger diameter. I have no idea yet, but I did ask one seller who has one. I hope not, cause I already sprung for the cushion. :unsure:
I drew these up as a quick example. The mount holes are spaced the same...
If you want to do this right, someone needs to define a list of requisite features for candidates.
Guess I'm just a glutton for punishment.
If the rearsets aren't a direct bolt on, then knowing the triangulation of the footpeg isn't really important. If you are going to use ones that don't bolt up directly with an adapter plate, you can adjust the footpeg triangulation some with the adapter plate, no?
Well if you're going to do that, then what the heck does it matter if the spacing is right for the frame???
For me the point is to find a Honda (or other) bike to reference for sourcing aftermarket rear sets that will bolt to the stock 6G cushion and allow for adjustable footpeg mounting.
Therefore the triangulation of the footpeg in relation to the two mounting holes is moot as I will be moving the pegs to suit me anyway.
Also, Ouch Baby! Very Ouch!. lol
You can be a stickler for reproducing stock numbers and still be searching for the perfect set of USD fork triples with the exact offset of the VFR three years later. Some compromise is inenevitable. Maybe the end result is better for it. But this is just a jumping off point. Besides, if a popular sport bike has the same bolt pattern that means plenty of aftermarket support, and likely adjustable mounts anyway.
I finally got an answer after asking 4 different ebay sellers about the CBR Pivot bolt. It is the same 25mm diameter as the VFR. It's a different part# than the 6G, but looks to be a similar design. It may be more compatible with 5G swingarm, as the nut looks shorter. Like the cut down version that yycviffer did, perhaps.
I expect my CBR cushion to arrive by Saturday, and I'll try bolting it up then. That should give those building track bikes, or simply don't want a center stand, a larger choice of rearsets from 929-954. Adjustability, reverse pattern, different look, etc.
I finally got an answer after asking 4 different ebay sellers about the CBR Pivot bolt. It is the same 25mm diameter as the VFR. It's a different part# than the 6G, but looks to be a similar design. It may be more compatible with 5G swingarm, as the nut looks shorter. Like the cut down version that yycviffer did, perhaps.
I expect my CBR cushion to arrive by Saturday, and I'll try bolting it up then. That should give those building track bikes, or simply don't want a center stand, a larger choice of rearsets from 929-954. Adjustability, reverse pattern, different look, etc.
I didn't even think about the lower cushion from a 929/954 bolting to a VFR... will this work on a 5th gen engine do you think? I've got a 2001 CBR929 swingarm with the cushion still attached on its way to my house!
BTW... went to the garage with my calipers.:
2000 CBR 929 Left Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 59.375mm
2001 CBR 929 Right Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 59.4mm
2005 VFR 800 Lower Cushion Left Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 64.325mm
2005 VFR 800 Lower Cushion Right Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 61.95mm
I finally got an answer after asking 4 different ebay sellers about the CBR Pivot bolt. It is the same 25mm diameter as the VFR. It's a different part# than the 6G, but looks to be a similar design. It may be more compatible with 5G swingarm, as the nut looks shorter. Like the cut down version that yycviffer did, perhaps.
I expect my CBR cushion to arrive by Saturday, and I'll try bolting it up then. That should give those building track bikes, or simply don't want a center stand, a larger choice of rearsets from 929-954. Adjustability, reverse pattern, different look, etc.
I didn't even think about the lower cushion from a 929/954 bolting to a VFR... will this work on a 5th gen engine do you think? I've got a 2001 CBR929 swingarm with the cushion still attached on its way to my house!
BTW... went to the garage with my calipers.:
2000 CBR 929 Left Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 59.375mm
2001 CBR 929 Right Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 59.4mm
2005 VFR 800 Lower Cushion Left Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 64.325mm
2005 VFR 800 Lower Cushion Right Rearset mounting bolt spacing C-C = 61.95mm
I got the idea from Mohawk. He was saying he thought the 6G and CBR were the same, apart from c-stand. They do have different rearset bolt spacing, but that gave me the idea to try the CBR cushion on the VFR. I'll be trying it on my 5G.
I didn't think to measure both sides of the VFR cushion for spacing. I measured the right side only and got 69mm top to bottom and subtracted 8mm for the two radii. (8mm diameter bolt, 4mm off the top and 4mm off the bottom for the center)
I spent some time on parts fiche and the only thing I could come up with in the different part# between 929 and 954 is color.
OK, I got the CBR rear cushion in today and it's a NO - GO! :sad:
Waaaay too skinny at the mounting points to fit onto the back of the VFR engine. Not even close. Sorry Mohawk, not only are the rearset mounts not the same, the cushion won't fit at all.
Looks like the 5-6 are interchangeable only, and not a lot of aftermarket support for rearsets on the 6G. Shoot, I was really hoping for that one. Mostly to recoup the $40 I spent on it... :angry:
BTW, there are a couple part#'s for CBR 929 and 954 rear cushions, best I can tell is that one year was black.
OK, I got the CBR rear cushion in today and it's a NO - GO! :sad:
Waaaay too skinny at the mounting points to fit onto the back of the VFR engine. Not even close. Sorry Mohawk, not only are the rearset mounts not the same, the cushion won't fit at all.
Looks like the 5-6 are interchangeable only, and not a lot of aftermarket support for rearsets on the 6G. Shoot, I was really hoping for that one. Mostly to recoup the $40 I spent on it... :angry:
BTW, there are a couple part#'s for CBR 929 and 954 rear cushions, best I can tell is that one year was black.
Bummer :angry:
That would have been a sweet swap...
No, not really as everything else seems to use different bolt spread.
I made a simple bracket for my 6th gen track pig that raised and slightly pushed back the pegs .
[image: attachicon.gif]vtec track project 023.jpg
PS I do have a set of adjustable rearsets for a 5th gen if Seb ever sends them back.
BR
I am definitely gonna do this ..
Thanks BR ..
BaileyrockThe 2014/15 VFR800 rearsets will do the trick, all you have to do is find them.
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BR
What don't you like about these Honda items? :unsure:
I can't tell by the photo if 14 VFR is better or worst. After riding Monday with the DMr suspension I need to get my dam big feet higher.
OMG Look I found a set that fits the sixth gen!!!
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CandyRedRC46OMG Look I found a set that fits the sixth gen!!!
Very nice Mr CRRC... but I'm thinkin' those are Sato and not Honda parts bin cheapo replacements
CandyRedRC46OMG Look I found a set that fits the sixth gen!!!
Sato. They look nice, but the price hurts my feelings.
KPerhamOK, I got the CBR rear cushion in today and it's a NO - GO! :sad:
Waaaay too skinny at the mounting points to fit onto the back of the VFR engine. Not even close. Sorry Mohawk, not only are the rearset mounts not the same, the cushion won't fit at all.
Looks like the 5-6 are interchangeable only, and not a lot of aftermarket support for rearsets on the 6G. Shoot, I was really hoping for that one. Mostly to recoup the $40 I spent on it... :angry:
BTW, there are a couple part#'s for CBR 929 and 954 rear cushions, best I can tell is that one year was black.
Apologies for the duff info. I know some people have put 6th gen swing arms on 929's & others have put 929 swingarms on 5/6th gens ! Thus I assumed they must be a close fit.
Of all the stuff the Chinese copy but not rear set's ?
rhema83SwitchbladeOf all the stuff the Chinese copy but not rear set's ?
I am checking on Chinese knock-offs of the Sato right now. I am trying to make my 6th Gen a better track bike. The stock footrests touch down way too easily and gave me a few rude shocks while I was in full lean. :wacko:
Let us know what you find, I'd be interested. My Danmoto CBR600 F4i rearsets turned up yesterday, looks like they can be made to work on the VFR with a little effort.
Ironically, it looks like they will bolt straight on to my TRX :491:
You mean... These?
:D
Voided76You mean... These?
:D
Those are all for CBR600s... do you know if that will that fit a 6th gen lower cushion?
just save up for the satos
CandyRedRC46Lol... just dropped 7 bills on a Rapidbike setup!just save up for the satos
...too many other competing expenses, my feet come last!
I hear that. I mainly did it for the installation of the quick shifter, but it is nice not having to worry about the pegs touching down and GP shift is just tits.
Edited 13 April by CandyRedRC46Rush2112Voided76You mean... These?
:D
Those are all for CBR600s... do you know if that will that fit a 6th gen lower cushion?
No, they definitely do not fit the VFR, I had adaptor plates made to make them work. Gear linkage will work & the brake MC bolts straight on, so it's a pretty easy thing to make fit though.
Edited 25 Sep 2014 by MVinOZthat plate didn't look difficult to make though. but hey. it's better value than a 500 dollar sato set. as nice as they are.... lol
ALSO
If you are looking to facilitate the addition of the quickshifter on your bike, I am putting my bike under the knife maybe next weekend when I take delivery of my RBR Quickshift setup later on this coming week. Ill let you folks know how that goes in a seperate thread. In short, I am tapping the gear lever, and tapping either the frame, or the sprocket cover to facilitate a similar linear linkage to engage the speedshift with the lever, as if it Had linkage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfWRX-s4yF0
that illustrates the General gist of what's in store for me. Not too tough. Some patience a ruler, a cordless drill and the patience to tune the engagement point.
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ooooooooooooofffffffffffffff sex. I hope you have some gold anodized USD fork tubes to go with those :)
That looks like a stock photo from Sato's website.
never mind :(
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