How To Wheelie Vfr 800

Hi

Yes, No

well lets just say the VFR is NOT the bike to learn how to wheelie on. unless you have money to throw away..

do yourself a favor and buy a stripped cbr/gixxer/ninja and learn to wheelie on the cheap.

then if you want to show off on the vfr you can do so :beer:

Wheelies are juvenille and immature. With that being said I can't believe I still do them at the age of 40 LOL!!! I grew up on 2 stroke dirt bikes so it just seems to happen every so often.

Rollin

BillyZ

Yes, No

can you give more details ?

Ilan

BillyZ

Yes, No

can you give more details ?

no details! we dont want you to wreck and kill yourself on a 500 lb bike...

any bike can be made to wheelie. if you dont know how.. for the love of god get a smaller lighter bike to practice with.

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RollinAgain

Wheelies are juvenille and immature.

Frankly to say, I had never thought Bailey Rock is such young. :goofy:

VietHorse

RollinAgain

Wheelies are juvenille and immature.

Frankly to say, I had never thought Bailey Rock is such young. :goofy:

Ilan

Hi

is it possible to make a power wheelie with vfr 800 ?

and if not , should i try to wheelie with second gear ?

thanks

ilan

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No it is not possible, buy a Gixxer.

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Yes, but only if you replace the air in the front tire with helium .....;)

In all seriousness though, I find that what works best for me is rolling on the throttle in first right below vtec, and I get a nice predictable rise as the other two valves come on. Or clutching up in second at around 40 mph also nets a nice predictable rise that's easy to modulate.

I would avoid pogoing the forks to come up, as that can be abrupt and unpredictable. ie dangerous. Or more dangerous...

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Some very special bikes came with a wheelie button next to the turn signal, super secret limited addition. Seb has one :goofy:

Few weeks ago I was on the way to work, I crossed one road to go play on another for just a minute and at my surprise, the VFR pulled the front end off the ground with nothing more than just getting on the throttle! I have only had a chance to put a couple hundred miles on mine since I got it so it was the first time she had done that. I was not really expecting it from something of its size.

I know my Dad will pull the front end off the ground with his big BMW1200GT without even thinking about it.

I've lifted the front a few times by accident when taking off from a red. Learn on a lighter bike and for God's sake, don't do them on the street. Motorcyclists have a bad enough stigma against them as it is. Please don't add to it.

Or, find someone that will sell you their Torocharger - you'll have a hard time not doing wheelies. :goofy:

First test ride of the year. Yes, it can power wheelie

Rolling first gear wheelie. Roll on to speed. Chop the throttle and brake a bit to dive the front end. Release the brakes and throttle it with your weight back. More of a snap wheelie tban a power wheelie. I haven't tried it yet but sounds like it will work. I've clutch wheelies mine a few times but failed to impress myself.

Yz426f is my wheelie machine.

Have a wheelie nice day... I did back in the 70s... cost me my bike...
a flat spot on my butt... and almost my USAF career... how
dare I damaged their property... but all in all I learned to get it up
and keep it up which I still enjoy today even though I'm 65 ... it
just don't come easy on Mr.RC45 with a tall first gear good for 90mph...

Warning grahpic pic... maybe NSFW... my 1972 wheelie crash on a 350 Kawasaki Big Horn...
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I love to wheelie... here's my ins and outs of getting it up...

There are two basic ways to go for wheelie stardom... by throttle
only-if your bike has the power or by a combination of throttle and
clutch like on a little EX500...

Hold the left grip with your little ring finger plus thumb... leaving
the other two digits free to fan the clutch... Now blip the throttle
hard and dump the clutch as the revs peak... As you dump the clutch
and I mean dump it... tug upwards on the bars and throw your body
back... Don't worry if you only do pathetic bunny hops... that's as
good as its gets for the first few attempts...

If it comes up too far just give it a bit less throttle and move your
body forward... If it's pure panic close the throttle and pull in the
clutch...

Wheelie kings use the back brake to bring it down... but don't worry
about that trick starting out... You won't learn to wheelie over
night... so get out there and pop the front wheel...

As practice rewards with more air time and distances increase looping
is a novices biggest worry... I still carry scars on my butt and back
from my first loop... and there has been others...


When customers ask if wheelies will damage their bikes my reply is
this... If a rider keeps the landing within the range of spring of the
suspension there is no damage that can result... damages comes if the
spring bottoms out on the suspension... when you bottom out the
suspension there is a sharp metallic sound follow by a feeling of less
control... basically during the landing of a wheelie the energy is
absorb in the springs and dampening fluid... but if the spring bottoms
the energy goes from wheel to the forks and then to frame which
destabilizes the geometry... damage may occur at this point... doing
wheelies one must check their suspension rates...

CandyRedRC46

In all seriousness though, I find that what works best for me is rolling on the throttle in first right below vtec, and I get a nice predictable rise as the other two valves come on. Or clutching up in second at around 40 mph also nets a nice predictable rise that's easy to modulate.

You may want to let the OP know you are using different sprocket ratios than stock... they may get frustrated if not seeing the results :cool:

I can wheelie, but don't like it. I don't like feeling like I am out of control with the bike. That said, coming out of a corner hard and have the front end come up does NOT bother me in the slightest.

ever cross a road and just catch the crown, so nice and smooth to ride out..

I'm just running a 1 down up front, no big deal, but you are right, stock gearing probably would require more throttle.

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they wheelie off the throttle easy in first gear. my 5th gen with stock gearing will come up in first off throttle alone to near balance point if you sit up as straight as possible and just whack open the throttle at 5000-6000rpm with a little pull up on the bars. more controllable wheelies are easier if you clutch up in first at a lower speed like 30-40kph. To clutch up in second gear requires quite a bit more abuse but it will do it or if you find a slight rise or bump in the road when you are in second gear at around 50kph just clutch it up with more revs. obviously if you lower the gearing it makes it much easier. vfr's are pretty decent at wheelies, so much so that 4 months ago I got fined in Sydney Australia $405, neg driving and lost 3 points of my license for being caught. Unfortunately it wasn't the first time so I think i'll have to look over my shoulder a bit more next time.

Fifth gens have a 1 inch shorter wheel base. Much easier to get up.

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I could see the vtec deal being more of an issue than an 1", just sit back an inch right? l have found that rider weight can be the difference from lighting up the tire on a wack to hooking up.

Wheel base makes a huge difference

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I will only say that almost anything can be wheelied and VFR is not the best bike to learn on.

CandyRedRC46

Fifth gens have a 1 inch shorter wheel base. Much easier to get up.

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What's an inch between friends.

Dmitry

I will only say that almost anything can be wheelied and VFR is not the best bike to learn on.

It took me about 4 or 5 years. I don't know if it was just seat time or mods. Probably a combination of the two.

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CandyRedRC46

Dmitry

I will only say that almost anything can be wheelied and VFR is not the best bike to learn on.

It took me about 4 or 5 years. I don't know if it was just seat time or mods. Probably a combination of the two.

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It took me few days before I popped a wheelie on my VF700F, was one of the first things I had to learn to be "in" with kewl kidz :)

I also crashed several times that summer... and you'd think I learned my lesson? Nah, safety gear is for pussies :)

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I have only accidentally wheelied my bike a few hundred times, but I'm starting to get use to it! :491:

My favorite accidental wheelie is the 2nd gear power wheelie. :wheel:

I just run out first to maybe 8, 9 or 10 k a pop into 2nd where the rpms put the engine in the fat part of the torque curve and it smoothly comes right up in a controlled manor.

BR

I've had two accidental wheelies that were remarkably uneventful. The first was from a stoplight; the second from an overenthustiac throttle initiating a pass. I'd love to know how to to it on purpose but too smart/scared to learn.

65 years of maturity has it's rewards. :tongue: :wheel:

My first on Dusty happened just a couple of weeks ago...riding back down one of the local hills and going over a hump in the road that I usually roll off when passing but that day I was feeling a little silly. Sure enough when it drops off the front got light and rode the resulting brief and unimpressive wheelie for a short way until gravity noticed and brought her back down.

Never done one in anger/with intent. As others have noted, there's an expensive lesson waiting if you botch it.

I grew up racing motocross and was always comfortable in the air and wheelies were a common past time. Bought my vfr about two years ago and have accidently felt the front wheel come up a couple times in first or second by rolling it on but between the thousands in damage if I screw it up and the $1000 florida ticket for not having both wheels in contact keeps me from doing too much back wheel ridin these days. I would love to buy supermotard but honestly I do t think I am mature enough to not get a ticket. The vfr is so fuN and a lot easier to not ride like a douche. (Middle aged wisdom I suppose)

I only wheelie my mother's scooter, when I visit her at the beach.

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How far were you to the fence, Timmy?

It didnt end well. I am no longer allowed to ride my mother's scooter.

Yes, a 4th gen can be wheelied as I found out, but it does not come natural to the bike as it does with hypersport bikes, especially .In the case of my bike that had it's rear shock shimmed and front shocks pulled up on the triples to have more forward weigh bias and quicker front geometry, it's quite an effort. Best chances of getting the front up is lots of revs and a hearty clutch dump. otherwise. Pulling it up with just the rolling the throttle is close to impossible.... Just not enough HP and torque to do so....

years ago I watched a guy on brand new red 4th gen wheelie it from the toll booth on I-93 (coming back from Laconia) and he carried it out of sight, looked effortless and impressive...

Beck

Pulling it up with just the rolling the throttle is close to impossible.... Just not enough HP and torque to do so...

Unless you remove 70lbs of un-needed weight :)

I think the easiest sport bike I've had to wheelie was my 6th gen for some reason. Maybe it has to do with the extra weight and smooth power band (above v-tec)… but it was always very smooth and stable for clutch wheelies. Especially compared to my previous GSXR-750. And like others have said, sit upright and open the throttle through the v-tec point correctly and the front end would come up decently. Worked even better with saddlebags mounted :) But without a fair amount more torque these bikes are always better to wheelie off the clutch on flat ground if you are interested in getting close to the balance point.

apexandy

Unless you remove 70lbs of un-needed weight :)

I think the easiest sport bike I've had to wheelie was my 6th gen for some reason. Maybe it has to do with the extra weight and smooth power band (above v-tec)… but it was always very smooth and stable for clutch wheelies. Especially compared to my previous GSXR-750. And like others have said, sit upright and open the throttle through the v-tec point correctly and the front end would come up decently. Worked even better with saddlebags mounted :) But without a fair amount more torque these bikes are always better to wheelie off the clutch on flat ground if you are interested in getting close to the balance point.

If you think the saddlebags work well, you should try a top box. :smile:

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Or a nice hill, TT-style.

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If all else fails, roll down a hill backwards, lean back, and gas it... (just kidding, DON"T do this on your bike!!)

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TT style... I like

timmythecop

It didnt end well. I am no longer allowed to ride my mother's scooter.

If that was the end result, then I would say it did end well. :laugh:

You know what they say about riding scooters :goofy:

MVinOZ

You know what they say about riding scooters :goofy:

They are more fun than fat chicks and I don't care if anyone sees me ;)

I no longer try and wheelie cause I am getting old, but my old FJ1200 was easy to hoist.

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Let me give you some tips...

1. Don't ever power-wheelie. The lack of control you have is the danger here. You may get it up, but it's a slow climb and it can be wobbly.

2. Clutch-up every time.

2a. Clutch up 1st gear... 10-15mph... stab the clutch, blip the throttle to 7-9k, release clutch, and the wheel comes up.

2b. Cluth up 2nd gear... 35-40mph... stab the clutch, blip the throttle to 9k, leaning forward, relase clutch and pull back on the bars... should come up.

That's how... should you? No. Will you? Probably.

I was a big proponent of 1st gear wheelies for the longest time... I've been riding for 7 years and popping stupid wheelies for 6 of them...

I actually never 2nd gear wheelied until last year in July on my 06, bone-stock VFR. It is now second nature...

Will you have the same luck/ability? No... maybe not. So don't try it... but you will. I warned you.

I get what you're saying. Clutch ups are generally the most controllable and pogoing is generally very unpredictable. But on my bike, rolling onto the gas in first gear right before the vtec crossover nets stupid easy wheelies and then clicking into second while at about 40 degrees makes for a really controllable and long wheelie. If the road is long/straight/empty enough clicking into third at around 50 degrees gets even easier. I have gotten it into fourth and rode it through but you are talking some really high speeds and angles close to 12 o'clock.

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DannyMoto

Let me give you some tips...

1. Don't ever power-wheelie. The lack of control you have is the danger here. You may get it up, but it's a slow climb and it can be wobbly.

2. Clutch-up every time.

Really? I think it's other way around: Power wheelie is less violent and less damaging to the equipment. Clutch-up hammers the clutch and drivetrain, also one wrong move and you are on your back.

That's my opinion based on 20+ years of experience...

Power wheelie with 56 hp

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this must be most famous wheelie ever

Dmitry

DannyMoto

Let me give you some tips...

1. Don't ever power-wheelie. The lack of control you have is the danger here. You may get it up, but it's a slow climb and it can be wobbly.

2. Clutch-up every time.

Really? I think it's other way around: Power wheelie is less violent and less damaging to the equipment. Clutch-up hammers the clutch and drivetrain, also one wrong move and you are on your back.

That's my opinion based on 20+ years of experience...

Power wheelie with 56 hp

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this must be most famous wheelie ever

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I agree to disagree. Only because with a clutch-up you have controlables... i.e., how much throttle, when you stab the clutch, when you release the clutch, and your body position.

With a power wheelie you're relying too much on the bike to "know what to do"... that and changing body position/physically pulling-up on the bars can cause you to let go, pull off, and vere your line. I've had many a close call with a big bike (01' Triumph Tiger 955i) power-wheeliing first-gear and almost eating it... but a clutch-up actually inspirred confidence and never caused an issue.

But to each their own. I'm not out to change your habbits! :wheel:

Besides the "style" which can be written off to personal preferences, there is something else to consider: damage you doing to the bike.

I never put the chain through the cases, but I remember growing up many friends were buying engines when the chain snapped ...

RollinAgain

Wheelies are juvenille and immature. With that being said I can't believe I still do them at the age of 40 LOL!!! I grew up on 2 stroke dirt bikes so it just seems to happen every so often.

Rollin

So glad you admit your folly, Rollin. You do remember the first day we rode together you wheelied away from me at the first stop sign.

DannyMoto

Dmitry

DannyMoto

Let me give you some tips...

1. Don't ever power-wheelie. The lack of control you have is the danger here. You may get it up, but it's a slow climb and it can be wobbly.

2. Clutch-up every time.

Really? I think it's other way around: Power wheelie is less violent and less damaging to the equipment. Clutch-up hammers the clutch and drivetrain, also one wrong move and you are on your back.

That's my opinion based on 20+ years of experience...

Power wheelie with 56 hp

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this must be most famous wheelie ever

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I agree to disagree. Only because with a clutch-up you have controlables... i.e., how much throttle, when you stab the clutch, when you release the clutch, and your body position.

With a power wheelie you're relying too much on the bike to "know what to do"... that and changing body position/physically pulling-up on the bars can cause you to let go, pull off, and vere your line. I've had many a close call with a big bike (01' Triumph Tiger 955i) power-wheeliing first-gear and almost eating it... but a clutch-up actually inspirred confidence and never caused an issue.

But to each their own. I'm not out to change your habbits! :wheel:

I'm to inebriated to give you a long detailed answer, but I do feel the exact opposite. Power up wheelies have always inspired confidence while clutch up wheelies have a large margin of error that have always been discouraging.

-Drew

did a few tried myself yesterday and was able to powerwheelie only around the 7000rpm mark and barely getting the front wheel off the ground.

Weight on the back helps significantly as I wheelied with passanger and panniers with no probs.

I also tried the clutch slipping method but was a total fail for me :)

I'll do some more powerwheelie tests :)

PS: stock sprockets

I did a wheelie once, came over a bridge doing 80mph got major air and landed on the back wheel and took ages to drop the front, suffice to say i needed a pants change. Never wheelie, too scared

mine picks the front wheel up handily in first power or clutch. I got used to the feeling of a foot of air under the front tire from a standing start. it's just how it seems to launch at the dragstrip. Out on the street any sort of rocking or chopping produces a full on 1st gear wheelie. it bunnie-hops the 2nd gear powershift. from about 30mph it clutches 2nd nice and slow, and wheelies out to 85 or so. hilarity ensues. There's only been a few instances that I've grabbed 2nd in the air, and it's stayed up. shifting more cushions my descent than anything. That all said, I'm very comfy with the frontend in the air. lol.

When I was in my 20's I used to wheelie my VFR750 in 2nd. Just accelerate hard, change to 2nd, as power comes on strong - around 7,000rpm I'd keep the throttle on full and dab the clutch and up she'd come....Easy and impressive.

It would come back down gently as I continued accelerating hard, I forget if it was 3rd or 4th gear, it's been a while....

One day I tried it on a small English country road and hadn't accounted for the camber of the road... The bike veered towards a hedge as the front lifted high off the ground so I let off and brought it back down before I crashed, wobbling a bit. ....and that was the last time I did wheelies on purpose.

The heavier a bike, the more power & speed needed to get the front up and that means more danger, especially on public roads.

My RC51 power wheelies fairly easily but is going very quick by the time it's up, so I avoid whacking the throttle open too fast in lower gears. There's a lot more control with 2 wheels in the ground... and I don't want to crash!

Although my near escape on the VFR that day (about 17 years ago when I was younger & more foolish) didn't incur any costs, what I do find these days is that 2nd gear on the VFR is more prone to coming un-engaged from time to time than any other. When it happens I sometimes I wonder if that was caused by all the wheelies back then, or just because the splines on the lever had worn a bit and my foot hadn't fully engaged 2nd?.... I strongly suspect it's because of the abuse it got in it's younger years and so I'm reminded to be kinder to my 70,000 mile gearbox. It's part of the long history the VFR & I share, but I wouldn't wheelie her any more.

A much lighter TDR250 (2 cyl. 2 stroke motard) I am in the slow process of building will be the bike for such foolish hooliganism (if at all), the VFR isn't, really.

Heell, what gives with my bike then? My 05 has no issues with clawing the sky. First or second, no biggie. I raised the front tire mid corner today when I hit second. Totally controlled, but fun!

First gear? I have to feather the clutch if I take off fast and if I'm holding 8000 RPM all u have to do is give it a quick twist and my bike says FU gravity!

Actually I should asked you guys for a wheelie training while riding Sy's VFR around Dragon.

Too bad, with my VFR I don't dare to try. :goofy: :comp13:

My wheelies are always power wheelies. Most have occurred at "gravity cavity" on the Dragon. My favorite pass is to use the backside of it as lunching ramp for the wheelie.

Pulled an accidental power wheelie while coming onto a military installation, right inside the gate.

Crossed VTEC, gave her the schtick, and pulled a 1-2 foot wheelie in front of a line of cars. I B-lined it to work, nervously checking my mirrors for the SP's, but luckily I got away without notice.

Smiling all the way, of course.

By far, the scariest wheelies I've pulled have been @ 80 mph in 3rd gear whilst topping a rise at full throttle. The front will come off the ground every time...I've finally learned to expect it~

On the way home from work, there's a certain rise that suddenly flattens to a long straight section after a ton of curves. I usually give it a bit in 2nd to pop the front up just for the hell of it, lasts about 2 seconds. Other than that, just a few unintentional front tire pop up's while gearing down to make a quick pass. Makes me feel like a hooligan which probably matches well with what the fellow in the vehicle being passed is thinking.

CandyRedRC46

I get what you're saying. Clutch ups are generally the most controllable and pogoing is generally very unpredictable. But on my bike, rolling onto the gas in first gear right before the vtec crossover nets stupid easy wheelies and then clicking into second while at about 40 degrees makes for a really controllable and long wheelie. If the road is long/straight/empty enough clicking into third at around 50 degrees gets even easier. I have gotten it into fourth and rode it through but you are talking some really high speeds and angles close to 12 o'clock.

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What "o'clock" would 40 & 50 degrees be?

With 9:00 being 0 degrees level and 12:00 being 90 degrees straight up and down; 10:00=30* 10:30=45* 11:00=60*

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