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1998 Winter Overhaul

64 posts Started 21 Feb 2015 Last recovered post 6 Sep 2015 Wayback Machine snapshot 25 Aug 2017

#1

Finally started tearing my bike down for it's winter overhaul. Planning to repair or replace all the plastic, send out the forks for customized rebuild, replace the rear shock with a revalved CBR 929 shock, new clutch pack, & springs, strip & clearcoat front & rear wheels, clean all wiring contacts, change oil/filter, check stator, & a general cleaning of collected gunk.

She's stripped down most of the way right now.

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Edited February 21, 2015 by TNRabbit
#2

I was surprised at how clean the case was inside...

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#3

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

#4

Clutch oics

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#5
MaxSwell

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

MaxSwell

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

GARAGE!!

#7
TNRabbit
MaxSwell

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

MaxSwell

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

GARAGE!!

I have a garage too; but it's not heated. And temps around here have been below zero F.

I am extreamly jealous.

#8

Just finished up doing that same project. The weather's so nice here I took it for its first shakedown ride today. I'm very pleased with the new suspension - well worth it. It always feels good when you're a long way from home knowing that everything is sorted and in good working order.

#9
MaxSwell
TNRabbit
MaxSwell

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

MaxSwell

Hope the weather is not cramping your style. Very cramped here in MN.

GARAGE!!

I have a garage too; but it's not heated. And temps around here have been below zero F.

I am extreamly jealous.

My garage isn't heated & temps have been around 0 at night here, too. Use a small space heater~

#10

Question: I was able to remove the entire clutch pack without removing the large nut at the center; what's under there & do I need to remove it just to replace the clutch pack?

ALSO, these 2 spacers were under the last clutch plate; is it normal to have 2, and why does one have a concave profile? Normal?

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#11

It is normal. One should be flat and the other one is conical. They are there to help the clutch plates to release so that you don't get clutch drag

#12
steveb77

It is normal. One should be flat and the other one is conical. They are there to help the clutch plates to release so that you don't get clutch drag

perfect! Thank you.

#13

Hey... While you have that cover off... :wink:

#14
SEBSPEED

Hey... While you have that cover off... :wink:

I know, right?!?

I absolutely love your covers, but I just can't spring for that much cash you know already dropping a lot of dough on the clutch, forks and rear shock....

because if I got the cover, then I would have to get the painting and the colored washers & the stainless steel bolts etc....

#15

How many miles on the clutch? I replaced mine last winter with new OEM friction and springs at 95k miles. I actually measured the old ones one at a time, and as a stack, and found no real difference new to old. Same with springs.

I only did it because I was rebuilding the bike, and had a new clutch cover to replace my battered original one. No idea what life to expect out of it, so I went ahead and changed them.

I've had the bike since 20,500 and not really babied it. Track days, mountain twisties, etc. No drag strip launches or wheelies though.

#16

Almost 50,000 on the clutch now. The bike has a spotty history & multiple owners. It was slipping all last year so just decided to go ahead and replace it. I did notice the original metal plates had tiny dimples on them & wonder if I should keep those versus the smooth plates with the replacement (Barnett)...

Edited February 22, 2015 by TNRabbit
#17

It's probably just the springs that are worn out, When I started my upgrades 3 years ago, as soon as I added more power it slipped like crazy, when I stripped it down all 5 springs werebelow service minimum, replaced with heavy duty springs & been fine for last 8k miles.

#18

I've kept up this thread on VFRworld but not here as it's a PITA to upload pics from my phone...

THAT SAID, did a LOT to my bike this winter, to include new clutch pack, 15% heavier clutch springs, new grips, new Vibranators bar end weights, Jamie Daugherty 929 resprung/revalved rear shock & fork cartridge inserts, new thermostat, new windscreen, painted some scrubbed spots, brushed the rims & painted the wheel spokes red to match the bike. I hope to have it on the road by next weekend.

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Edited May 2, 2015 by TNRabbit
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Very nice Gary, can't wait to see them on the bike.

#21

Got the initial work done on the rear wheel.

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Edited May 4, 2015 by TNRabbit
#22

I got a set of the highly touted "Vibranators" bar end weights. I'll do a complete review of them after I get the bike back on the road....delays, delays....[image: post-27845-0-91068600-1430849305.jpg]

I got REALLY lucky & picked up a MINT upper cowl w/ headlight & turn signals on ebay for only $150.00!

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Edited May 5, 2015 by TNRabbit
#24

Looks like it's really coming together. More pics please!

#25
TNRabbit

I got a set of the highly touted "Vibranators" bar end weights. I'll do a complete review of them after I get the bike back on the road....delays, delays....[image: attachicon.gif]20150424_151025.jpg

I got REALLY lucky & picked up a MINT upper cowl w/ headlight & turn signals on ebay for only $150.00!

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great buy..there like rocking horse shit over here

#26

Putting everything back together and it was having some trouble installing the access panel on the right side above the rearset. that's when I noticed the rearset was bent in several places and the swingarrm bolt was only finger tight! I looked up the torque and it's supposed to be 93 ft bs... it was more like 9.3 inch lbs~

I can't emphasize enough the importance of routinely checking all bolts, nuts, etc. on your bike. I would have never known it was like that had I not noticed the rearset was bent.

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Edited May 8, 2015 by TNRabbit
#27

Yeah, I've found loose fasteners on used bikes I've bought. Always after I had ridden for a bit... Not great! :unsure:

#28

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Note to self: make sure ALL the hoses & wiring are properly routed before tightening the fork pinch bolts, installing the wheel & installing the brake system~

New Vibranators & grips:

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Wheel looks great on the bike!

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#29

+1 on checking the wiring routing....

That rim looks like the one I had on my '89 Lemans :-)

#30

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7,000 miles on this PR4

#31
Veefer800Canuck

Very nice Gary, can't wait to see them on the bike.

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#32

something is wrong. When I turn on the ignition I don't get the priming from the fuel pump and when I hit the starter all I get is a reay click behind the instrument panel. Also the clock is completely blank although the instrument lights work.... still haven't identified that mystery plug.

#33

Bump.

Also, this connector is killing me...it comes from under the throttle bodies.....LORD PLEASE don't let it be a connector under there!

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Edited May 15, 2015 by TNRabbit
#34

MAP? Right rear of air box on the underside, if it is. Should be reachable with everything in place, tank up.

#35
KevCarver

MAP? Right rear of air box on the underside, if it is. Should be reachable with everything in place, tank up.

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Already in place^^^

#36

I'm looking at page 5-54 of the FSM - there's a gray connector that looks very much like that which connects to the bypass control solenoid - just in front of the fuel pressure regulator. It's difficult to be sure from the photo. If that's it, you'd have to route the wire to the opposite side of the hose leading out of the valve cover.

#37

Son of a bitch! That was it~ Thank you!

I only had to pop the back half of the throttle bodies off pull it through and poke it out the other side. Not so bad...putting it back together now.

#38

I tracked it down to the starter relay. Its bad. I've got 13.15 volts on the battery side of it and nothing on the fuse side with the ignition on.

anybody know where to get a starter relay at 4 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon?

#39

....it was divine intervention that I had to go back into the throttle bodies because I left all four screws that hold the throttle body on completely loose~

#41
TNRabbit

Son of a bitch! That was it~ Thank you!

I only had to pop the back half of the throttle bodies off pull it through and poke it out the other side. Not so bad...putting it back together now.

:cheerleader:

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Edited May 17, 2015 by TNRabbit
#43

Now that's nice. Best one I've seen.

#44

I've got mine mounted in the exact same place, but it's wired into the power leaving the ignition keyswitch, so it automatically goes on and off whenever you start the bike.

No possibility of forgetting it then and draining the battery you're trying to monitor!

#45
Veefer800Canuck

I've got mine mounted in the exact same place, but it's wired into the power leaving the ignition keyswitch, so it automatically goes on and off whenever you start the bike.

No possibility of forgetting it then and draining the battery you're trying to monitor!

I was going to do that, but I wanted to be able to check it with the ignition off. Also, it's wired directly to the battery so I have the best indication. I've noticed if I connect thru another system (tail light, for example) that it can read up to 1 full volt less due to aging wiring/corrosion between connectors,grounds, etc.

Thhis volt meter pulls so little amperage it can be on for a couple weeks without any major affect on the battery.

checksix

Now that's nice. Best one I've seen.

Thanks!

I picked up those switches on amazon--10 for $8.00! Same for the volt meter, amazon for @ $8.00 (only 1).

Edited May 17, 2015 by TNRabbit
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I cut a section from a motor oil jug & made a flap extension to cover the shock & protect it from debris brought up by the rear wheel.

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#47
TNRabbit

I was going to do that, but I wanted to be able to check it with the ignition off. Also, it's wired directly to the battery so I have the best indication. I've noticed if I connect thru another system (tail light, for example) that it can read up to 1 full volt less due to aging wiring/corrosion between connectors,grounds, etc.

Yes, that is the downside. I checked mine with a multimeter direct to the battery and I see about 0.6 volt less the way mine is wired in.

#48

Shit. I got the starter solenoid installed & now every time I put a 30 amp fuse in the main fuse holder it blows immediately. Time to start testing wiring with the multimeter.

This is SERIOUSLY eating into my summer riding.... :-(

#49

Got a replacement wiring harness & swapped it out this weekend. 90% done but I'm going to be out of town all week for work so won't be able to finish until next week....

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#50

I like that voltmeter. Good luck I'm sure you'll get it all sorted.

Speaking of sorted, maybe you can have the wife clean out your garage while you're gone ;-P

#51

Not married~ that's all my stuff!

It's only a 12x16 shed~

Edited August 17, 2015 by TNRabbit
#52

OK, got the new (used) wiring harness installed, everything is working EXCEPT the fuel pump doesn't prime. Checked 30 amp fuse in the starter relay & it's good.

Any suggestions?

Edited August 27, 2015 by TNRabbit
#53

Relay?

Run/Stop Switch?

Remember to plug in the pump? (it happens...)

#54

Relay good, forgot about the start/stop switch. Also, I wonder if the tip sensor could be bad?

#55

Did you take off the tip sensor? Could be upside down?

#56
KevCarver

Did you take off the tip sensor? Could be upside down?

Excellent idea--I'll check

#57

OMG.... has taken forever but......IT'S ALIIIIIIIVE!!!!!

Fuel cutoff/bank sensor was bad~

Edited September 3, 2015 by TNRabbit
#64

Gawd I love 5th gens. Looks great!

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