Yesterday I finally got out of the 300mi breakin period and started to open up the bike. It was also wet in some areas and it felt like the engine skipped a beat once or twice during the fast sweepers. I never felt the rear end break loose at all.
Is that what traction control feels like when it kicks in? This is the first bike I've owned that had TC or ABS, so I'm clueless about how it changes my riding in wet weather.
You'd know if it was traction control as the yellow light flashes on the dash when it activates.
And the TC is not very smooth. It will take away the power drastically for 1 or maybe 2 seconds. You will definitely notice.
Thats probably what was going on. I wasn't looking at the dash though so I couldn't tell.
In higher gears with light throttle application I find that the V-tec transition feels like a slight hesitation. TC is much more intrusive on this bike.
When TC kicks in on mine it makes me think I've stalled... then I realise I had a full fist of the go-juice on so it must have been TC ;) Yes, it's that heavy-handed. The bike will stand-up quickly if it's the TC.
I reckon you're feeling the VTEC transition - like smoke4ndmears said, with light throttle application in higher gears and when you're close to VTEC zone there's a very slight hesitation. It is not as intrusive as TC - enough to go 'that was weird' - just like skipping a beat ;)
Edited March 21, 2016 by MrGrumpy83The only times I've noticed the T/C cut in has been pulling away when the back wheel was on gravel and broken branches, as the wheel started to spin up it cut in and stopped the bike wiggling around, both times it was a definite advantage
300 miles? My service book says 600 miles
As you get the bike settled in its only after 3k miles that you'll really noticed how much it freerer it'll rev, then it's time to pin it in second and hang on when the VTEC cuts in
Mine kicked in when I hit a tar snake at about 40 mph just after a corner, not as drastic as others have mentioned as I was not accelerating as hard they were. I think it will more noticeable under higher power.
i have had mine kick in a few times. and feels like u hit the revlimmiter with out the noise and speed. mine trggerd when taking my bike of the foot path onto the road, and a few other times when or if u hit a good pothole. penty here in the uk
It will also kick in hard if you wheelie :491:
The TC is not well done at all. I always switch it off when heading out to the Autobahn, because a few small bumps on the road are enough to have the TC kick in hard.
The firmware seems to compare front and rear wheel speed without enough plausability checks, so if the front wheel spins a bit slower at full throttle because of bumps, the TC activates, which is complete nonsense. Only a slipping rear wheel should trigger it.
When getting on the Bahn, it might be a part without a speed limit and cars might come by with 200 km/h or more. So I want to accellerate as quickly as possible, and then the TC cutting ignition because the front wheel missed a few revolutions is a safety risk. Has caused sweat to break out more than once..
It always kicks in when I go over this little bridge, I don't even need to be airborne very long.
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Edited March 23, 2016 by fatshoutybloke| I don't even need to be airborne very long.
#HumbleBrag :)
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I'll tell you exactly what the 2015 Honda VFR-800's Traction Control feels like.
It feels like someone at Honda should lose their job over it.
RectaltronicsI'll tell you exactly what the 2015 Honda VFR-800's Traction Control feels like.
It feels like someone at Honda should lose their job over it.
hate to say this but other manafactors of bikes have developed way better systems to honda.
one of 2 things i dont like of vfr the tc and the sodding indictors.
Tc has never bothered me yet agree with the indicators could do with an additional 10 seconds.
The TC functionality was clearly an afterthought. The hardware (ABS + ECU controlled ignition) has been available for a long time, it was just a matter of firmware development, testing and certification. They did it in a way that sort of works, but is far too sensitive and worst of all can be triggered by the front wheel losing grip.
I had the TC kick in for the first time the other day. Dry road, overtaking a couple of cars, throttle pinned in third, rolled over a couple of sharp lateral ripples and the TC nearly stopped me in my tracks. Nearly had a heart attack as I was now unnecessarily exposed to danger for longer. The TC is incredibly crude and although I wouldn't turn it off, just in case I hit a bit of mud or something, it's questionable just how much it might help in most of the situations when it's going to kick in. TC in general is a great step forward but this implementation is a crude afterthought to tick a marketing box.
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fuelex, 4/8/2016 at 4:44 AMI had the TC kick in for the first time the other day. Dry road, overtaking a couple of cars, throttle pinned in third, rolled over a couple of sharp lateral ripples and the TC nearly stopped me in my tracks. Nearly had a heart attack as I was now unnecessarily exposed to danger for longer. The TC is incredibly crude and although I wouldn't turn it off, just in case I hit a bit of mud or something, it's questionable just how much it might help in most of the situations when it's going to kick in. TC in general is a great step forward but this implementation is a crude afterthought to tick a marketing box.
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it's more like my sanity check now that I've broken the engine in and done the first oil change.
first gear can float the front for me, esp. with a more open exhaust layout, 1st gear will spit out the TC, I haven't had it lose it's shit over bumps yet, but the first gear chop to airborne front tire is a sure way to nope-town with TC on.
Sad. but it's nice having it set to anti hoon as I've gotten plenty of tickets for such shenanigans.
I can also attest that it is really nice in gravels. I can pin it and it spins up for about a quarter second then fully cuts out as if to say: "Baby no, what is you doin'?"
Still yet I can't help but grin when I disable the TC altogether. I know I'm in for a treat.
If you're in the UK and have access to BBC On Demand, go to categories, on the 2nd page is Northern Ireland, the NW200 is there in 3 parts
Its real road racing and there are constant references to the riders relying on the TC
BTW the racing is breath taking, makes the TT look tame
I'm sure that the TC that the racers rely on is totally awesome.
The TC that the 8th Gen VFR has been equipped with is a crude piece of crap and in my experience, is more dangerous than it is useful.
The engineers who allowed this out the door ought to fall on their knives.
The TC on the R1, ZX10R, Panigale, etc is less intrusive and controlled by the IMU as well as wheel spin sensors. The TC on the 8th gen is intrusive and cuts the engine too much to be useful anywhere besides a stoplight where you might bump the throttle a little too much in the wet.