Pitty it's a cold start, wouldn't mind hearing a wound-out pass, or warm idle. Jurys still out for me... would like to hear something deeper, lumpy... has that sewing machine sound to it in the background. :comp13: I'd like to go on and talk about gear driven cams... but will refrain. :blush:
Well you sure will not confuse the sound with a 6th generation with staintunes. Not much of a small block chev sound there.I keep telling myself that it will be a wonderful bike to ride.Then I get that awful feeling that Honda let to many cooks in the kitchen and completely missed the boat. I understand the benefits of the 76% cylinder spacing as opposed to 90% , but the sound is just not the same or as good as far as I'm concerned. :rolleyes:
Now maybe I'm partial to my 5th gen with a Micron on it, But the Leo Vince sounds much better than the stock can on that bike, for one thing I can actually hear it....motorcycles need not be deafening but they should sound like motorcycles not kitchen appliances. Honda probably HAS to make them quiet to please the man... but for the love of god take that homely wimpy sounding thing off and put a proper exhaust on it as soon as you get it home.
But I never liked the 360 degree crankshaft sound - when Honda first came out with their V4 in the early 80's the sound was described as underwater gargling. The RC30/45 and NR have a raspier tone but still sound like a mad sewing machine to me.
Apparently Honda changed over to the 360 degree crank in their racing division to extract more horsepower from the motor, but it doesn't seem to have stopped Aprilia from making big ponies with their RSV4:
I like both sounds, the even-fire 360, and the long-bang 180. That 1200 with the Leo Vince sounds almost like an ST1300 I rode with that had Two Brothers pipes on it. Sounds like a pissed off motocross bike. Now, I did notice a bit of a rasp in it too. My old VF700 Sabre had a 4-1 with a supertrapp megaphone on it, and it had this manic shrieking howl to it, echoed off everything, and it really turned heads. I have a feeling we might be missing a lot of the sound this thing's making.
[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 14 February 2010 - 11:11 AM, said:
Apparently Honda changed over to the 360 degree crank in their racing division to extract more horsepower from the motor, but it doesn't seem to have stopped Aprilia from making big ponies with their RSV4:
Firing order doesn't have a whole lot to do with the amount of horsepower, but it does have an effect on the character of the power particularly in terms of tire traction.
BTW, from what little I've read, the RSV4 is at the lower end of the hp rankings relative to its competitors, making the point that it's all in how effectively the engine is tuned, not necessarily in the firing order.
Yeah, the S1000RR is supposed to be near the top in horsepower, but they aren't doing as good as the Yamaha or Aprilia teams. Back in the days of the RC30, the horsepower race was still on. Now that we have these insanely powerful bikes, rideability is a concern, that's where the firing order comes in. The S1000RR is an even fire motor.
[image: View Post]jmac1957, on 12 February 2010 - 11:22 AM, said:
Well you sure will not confuse the sound with a 6th generation with staintunes. Not much of a small block chev sound there.I keep telling myself that it will be a wonderful bike to ride.Then I get that awful feeling that Honda let to many cooks in the kitchen and completely missed the boat. I understand the benefits of the 76% cylinder spacing as opposed to 90% , but the sound is just not the same or as good as far as I'm concerned. :rolleyes:
Not to be critical of your wording, but . . . you're mixing your metaphors. That might be, "Honda let too many cooks in the galley and completely missed the boat." :cool:
I do agree with your assesment, our 6th and earlier versions sound better. My Remus titaniums on my 2004 are breaking in nicely and are quite loud now. Sounds great, but I'm biased.
It's a video from a press launch in Hong Kong so it's in Chinese, but what's most impressive is the sound from other VFR's ripping down the front straight during the commentary. It sounds just like a MotoGP race with the audio echoing off the structures, followed by the distinctive V4 growl during the downshifts. Cool stuff I tell ya!
[image: View Post]Solomoto, on 07 March 2010 - 03:08 AM, said:
what's most impressive is the sound from other VFR's ripping down the front straight during the commentary. This has caused some speculation on another site. Is that sound coming from the VFR? How about those Fireblades on that same video? Can any of 7th gen owners comment this.
[image: View Post]Jussi, on 10 March 2010 - 02:48 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Solomoto, on 07 March 2010 - 03:08 AM, said:
what's most impressive is the sound from other VFR's ripping down the front straight during the commentary. This has caused some speculation on another site. Is that sound coming from the VFR? How about those Fireblades on that same video? Can any of 7th gen owners comment this.
I doubt that the Fireblades are the source, they simply don't have the MotoGP growl that's evident especially on the downshifts at the end of the straight, besides there appear to be many more VFR's than Fireblades. This is after all a VFR specific event, I doubt Honda would dilute attention by having many other different bikes around. My guess is that they brought the Fireblade only as a comparison to illustrate the track competance of the VFR.
First, let me say the stocker sounds way better that I thought it would.
Second, with the ever tightening noise regulation, I'm really not surprised that it is as quiet as it is.
Third, I think that with the Catalyst is choking off the sound, so as long as it is on the bike even a straight pipe is not going to let the motor sing.
I can't wait until I get my hands on one and see how clean the motor runs without the cat and try fit a cell and lose the Cat.
Personally I think it sounds pretty good stock. My guess is a good quality carbon fiber exhaust will give it a deeper growl. Carbon is almost always deeper than steel or titainium. The new 1200 is definately growing on me but I still can't get past the shaft drive which is why I'll never own one.
[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 17 March 2010 - 03:02 PM, said:
Akrapovic will soon offer a slip on for the VFR1200F. No sound clips yet, just pics.
That's a nice looking pipe! :fing02:
As for the shaft drive, after having recently replaced my chain'n'sprockets, I'd be quite pleased to leave all that fuss'n'mess behind...
You know I'm not really sure this is a good comparison. It sounds to me like the microphone used the Leo Vince pipe is probably not very good since you can't really hear much of the low-range tones, which I'm sure are there. On top of that the video's are from two different users so and likely two different video cameras. I wouldn't write it off just yet. I know that you can get the same sorts of sounds from great sounding exhausts via YouTube videos. You really need a professional microphone to capture the entire dynamic range of the frequency spectrum. Just a thought.
That clinches it. I am sticking to my 6th gen and if I need more power will slap on a Torocharger. Looks good, sounds good, costs less. I'm set. :fing02:
DougFromIndy, on 22 February 2010 - 09:35 PM, said:
This is what a V4 should sound like: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6sonyVoRGu4
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=bzse-bvS55Q or maybe this http://www.youtube.c...h?v=X1PZ8o9GD0U
I think I just jizzed in my pants
Yeah, those RSV4's are very nice bikes, but I think my crappy old 2001 VFR sounds just as good, now that the Satantune has 'bedded in'.
When I first got the bike, I thought it sounded a bit high-pitched and raspy, but it's got deeper in tone in the last year, and doesn't bug me as much. A VFR with a Remus on sounds pretty good though.
[image: View Post]vfrqqq, on 19 March 2010 - 05:05 PM, said:
You know I'm not really sure this is a good comparison. It sounds to me like the microphone used the Leo Vince pipe is probably not very good since you can't really hear much of the low-range tones, which I'm sure are there. On top of that the video's are from two different users so and likely two different video cameras. I wouldn't write it off just yet. I know that you can get the same sorts of sounds from great sounding exhausts via YouTube videos. You really need a professional microphone to capture the entire dynamic range of the frequency spectrum. Just a thought.
Also, the second video features the STOCK pipe! Have another look!
Video cameras always make the exhaust sound tinny. It does for mine, and mine sure ain't tinny.
When I hear it on the computer, it sounds like crap. In person, lovely!
IMO, you can't fully judge the bike cold starting with a little revving. The motor will sound totally different under load as opposed to sitting on it's centerstand with no gears moving. I've got a Remus system on mine and am getting ready to turn 60K miles and it still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Some manufacturer will figure out a way to make that big V4 sound fantastic but like I said let's see what happens.
My CBX played a mean acceleration note. I'd never judge a bike by what it's sound clip on my computer sounds clip. It's what it sounds like when you are riding it that counts. I think a double canister shotgun style might do the trick. It sounds fine stock in my oppinion.
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