EBAY Hong Kong Pazzo lever lookalikes

So my ZX-12 riding buddy is looking at a set of these levers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

For $72, they would seem to be a helluva deal, if thay are what they appear to be.

The pics look nice, of course, and the feedback is good, but I was wondering if anyone has actually bought and used them and can comment???

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(I already have Pazzos, courtesy of a group buy here on VFRd, so am not in the market)

A friend bought these for GSX-R. Look great feel great but they flap around.
Maybe you can space them out with some fine washers but the tolerance that you get with pazzo or crg is not there. Pitty

I wish I could say that I liked the feel of Pazzo/CRG/etc levers, because these would be a nice deal. I had a set of Pazzos for my CBR, but I didn't like the shape of the lever. I prefer the thin shape of the stock lever. :sleep:

I would rather buy the knock offs,it just seems a little crazy spending $160 or around that much for levers.It would be interesting to know the real cost of a pazzo lever,I'd bet it's $20 or less.




I'm with SEB the stock levers work quite well Posted Image

$58
http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item3a579e16c0

being from ROC, don't expect the best.

I have a set of eBay pazzo look alike levers from china.

I'm very happy with them and an awesome £££ saving!

Ill keep my stock levers if bike falls over for spares, but if i do brake one ill still buy a pair from china again as they are two for one and look great.

They do not flap about!
The finish is very nice!
no im not working for them, very skeptical myself to start, but after i got some rear-sets from china as well i know what im in for. I just looked for 76mm spacing and they fit my 4th gen build.
I have had to remake the brake master bracket, but nothing unexpected, as they are universal and i do have a bit of Ally and a small file. No not the best, but they do work, and well......

My new flash levers

Think im lucky to have changed to cbr1000 04-07 master units so i have no fitment issues(looking for VFR levers)

Am sure if you shop about you can find some to fit, Honda levers were fairly universal over the 90's.

Do these fit a VFR? I don't see a listing for one.

[image: View Post]PLCGuy, on 14 February 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:

Do these fit a VFR? I don't see a listing for one.



This link to an Ontario Pazzo supplier lists what fits what bikes. Hope it helps.

http://www.topendz.c...gory_Code=Pazzo

[image: View Post]B4D80Y, on 14 February 2010 - 11:19 AM, said:

I have a set of eBay pazzo look alike levers from china.

I'm very happy with them and an awesome ��� saving!

Ill keep my stock levers if bike falls over for spares, but if i do brake one ill still buy a pair from china again as they are two for one and look great.

My new flash levers


Do they "flap around" like one guys says up there - how to they compare fir/finih to pazzo's ?

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[image: Posted Image]PLCGuy, on 14 February 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:

Do these fit a VFR? I don't see a listing for one.


This link to an Ontario Pazzo supplier lists what fits what bikes. Hope it helps.

http://www.topendz.c...gory_Code=Pazzo

this is the fitment list from the pazzo website. Some of the listings from the site posted on the post above do not match completely..
example...
St1300 uses different brake lever but same clutch lever as a 6th gen
st1300 uses 5th gen brake lever according to the PAZZO website.

The link to the Ontario pazzo dealer lists the 6th gen and st1300 as the same..








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As we know from the "will a 6th gen brake master fit on a 5th gen" thread you can not interchange the 5th and 6th gen brake levers. Either make sure the fitment is right before you buy or make sure they have a return policy..

thank you!

[image: View Post]PLCGuy, on 14 February 2010 - 07:05 PM, said:

thank you!


Im not sure what other discepencies there are but I sent an Email to the site you listed letting them know also..

:fing02:

so if I want a clutch lever for my 6th Gen. what would I order, a CBR???

[image: View Post]04asphalt, on 14 February 2010 - 08:18 PM, said:

so if I want a clutch lever for my 6th Gen. what would I order, a CBR???

See my post above that lists the pazzo part #'s ?


A 6th gen VFR = 02-09 Honda VFR 800 =
Brake lever is F-18
Clutch lever is V-00

Now find a Model with V-00 hilighted

Now you know what models you can use a clutch lever from that will FIT your 6th gen VFR..

Please let me know if you have any more trouble cross referencing the list.. Posted Image

Looks like you'd have to get a seller to mix and match if you wanted a set for the 6th gen. For $50 bucks id give it a whirl... just have to sit down n figure out who would do it.

I sure do like cheap stuff from China, but I like my job more... something to think about.

[image: View Post]DenT, on 15 February 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:

Looks like you'd have to get a seller to mix and match if you wanted a set for the 6th gen. For $50 bucks id give it a whirl... just have to sit down n figure out who would do it.


problem is finding a suitable clutch lever..

I found a few VTR1000F brake levers on Ebay.. $9.99 for a OEM STYLE - $40.00 for a pazzo knockoff, But none listeed a clutch lever..

Worse case scenario you order the clutch lever from pazzo (I used motomummy.com for my SET) and try a brake lever from Ebay. probably cost $120 a set that way..

[image: View Post]B4D80Y, on 14 February 2010 - 11:19 AM, said:

I have a set of eBay pazzo look alike levers from china.

I'm very happy with them and an awesome £££ saving!

Ill keep my stock levers if bike falls over for spares, but if i do brake one ill still buy a pair from china again as they are two for one and look great.

They do not flap about!
The finish is very nice!
no im not working for them, very skeptical myself to start, but after i got some rear-sets from china as well i know what im in for. I just looked for 76mm spacing and they fit my 4th gen build.
I have had to remake the brake master bracket, but nothing unexpected, as they are universal and i do have a bit of Ally and a small file. No not the best, but they do work, and well......

My new flash levers

Think im lucky to have changed to cbr1000 04-07 master units so i have no fitment issues(looking for specific 4th gen levers)

Am sure if you shop about and do some investigation you can find some to fit, Honda levers were fairly universal over the 90's.


Slight edit on first post to answer a few questions.
I was initially referring to the levers themselves being quite good, did not mention fitment as ive got my vfr master units in a box for spares, as ive already modified my vfr more than most.

Another option besides pazzo..

http://www.fpracingusa.com/

I emailed these guys a few months ago asking about availability for the VFR. There reply said early spring..

Not sure if there making them for the VFR yet or not. might be worth a email to find out..

Anyone interested in these levers should email the company and ask up front for fitment details. They recently shipped a ton of these things that were supposed to fit FZ6's......... and they don't. The company has been standup about the whole deal and is refunding money, but if y'all want to avoid disappointment you should talk to someone first. The US distributor ins in CA. I believe

[image: View Post]k1c, on 15 February 2010 - 09:13 AM, said:

Anyone interested in these levers should email the company and ask up front for fitment details. They recently shipped a ton of these things that were supposed to fit FZ6's......... and they don't. The company has been standup about the whole deal and is refunding money, but if y'all want to avoid disappointment you should talk to someone first. The US distributor ins in CA. I believe



Which company/levers are you referring to?

I picked up the levers for him, these were the ones:

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$50 USD SHIPPED!


Going to look very nice in gold, as they'll match well.

Not his bike, but one just like it:

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I emailed the guy selling the ones in this link
http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item3a579e16c0

The guy responded that he didn't have any that would fit my Y2K VFR

Mike

[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 15 February 2010 - 10:04 AM, said:

[image: View Post]k1c, on 15 February 2010 - 09:13 AM, said:

Anyone interested in these levers should email the company and ask up front for fitment details. They recently shipped a ton of these things that were supposed to fit FZ6's......... and they don't. The company has been standup about the whole deal and is refunding money, but if y'all want to avoid disappointment you should talk to someone first. The US distributor ins in CA. I believe



Which company/levers are you referring to?



Just contacted my buddy who was involved with the FZ6 deal, he says it was says Fire Dragon Brothers. Sorry for the lapse.

[image: View Post]pres589, on 15 February 2010 - 12:30 AM, said:

I sure do like cheap stuff from China, but I like my job more... something to think about.

I couldn't agree more, I recently bought a Moose (E-line) skid plate for my Honda CRF450x dirtbike... Thought that I bought a USA made carbon fiber skidplate but to my surprise at $159.00 it was still made in China and yes it was a piece of crap. So I emailed Moose about the issues and they told me to contact the maker E-line. So I did and was told that they have no control over their product becuase it's made in China... WTF I then took it back to Cycle Gear (great return policy) & ordered a Made in the USA Works connection... Very happy :rolleyes: So when your pulling on that front brake real hard in a panic stop... Which one would you want to have on your bike? For me it's the Pazzo's not some junk that's made in China. IMHO

[image: View Post]crazybrother, on 15 February 2010 - 05:58 PM, said:

[image: View Post]pres589, on 15 February 2010 - 12:30 AM, said:

I sure do like cheap stuff from China, but I like my job more... something to think about.

I couldn't agree more, I recently bought a Moose (E-line) skid plate for my Honda CRF450x dirtbike... Thought that I bought a USA made carbon fiber skidplate but to my surprise at $159.00 it was still made in China and yes it was a piece of crap. So I emailed Moose about the issues and they told me to contact the maker E-line. So I did and was told that they have no control over their product becuase it's made in China... WTF I then took it back to Cycle Gear (great return policy) & ordered a Made in the USA Works connection... Very happy :rolleyes: So when your pulling on that front brake real hard in a panic stop... Which one would you want to have on your bike? For me it's the Pazzo's not some junk that's made in China. IMHO





OE since you asked it's free Posted Image

I agree that it is very damaging in the long term to be buying cheap Chinese stuff - if you want your country to maintain a manufacturing base, you have to support it. So much of Australia's industry has gone offshore and the problem is getting worse.

It's nice to save a few bucks in the here and now, but the long-term cost is unacceptable, IMO.

For the same reason, I don't buy the generic grocery brands that our duo-poly supermarkets sell (if everyone did that the producers that don't supply them at their cut-throat wholesale prices would soon go out of business), and I spend as much as possible within the small town that I live in. I work for a corporate behemoth, but I grew up in small towns with my parents as small business owners, so I have a real appreciation of these issues.

Just a thought...

[image: View Post]The Phantom, on 15 February 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

I agree that it is very damaging in the long term to be buying cheap Chinese stuff - if you want your country to maintain a manufacturing base, you have to support it. So much of Australia's industry has gone offshore and the problem is getting worse.

It's nice to save a few bucks in the here and now, but the long-term cost is unacceptable, IMO.

For the same reason, I don't buy the generic grocery brands that our duo-poly supermarkets sell (if everyone did that the producers that don't supply them at their cut-throat wholesale prices would soon go out of business), and I spend as much as possible within the small town that I live in. I work for a corporate behemoth, but I grew up in small towns with my parents as small business owners, so I have a real appreciation of these issues.

Just a thought...


I worked for Continental tire for well over 20 years,they decided to move production to Brazil,Mexico,and or Vietnam.They backed out of there agreement to pay for are severance package,and medical coverage for retirees.I will not run conti tires and I bet this type of business practice will stop most from buying them.

I understand that it's not members issue but in the end it hurts everyone in the good old USA.Each to there own let's see unemployment and under employment hit 20%

haha
Nice final comments, keep it local...
But,
ive paid well over �200 to my 'local' cnc machinist, and its been 2 years since and ive given up calling him for my parts.
Service and practicality go a lot further than a load of pipe dreams.
One world , one bike... mine... ill b a long time dead..
live long and modify...

I hear you on the principle of buying local and supporting your own country's industries. Valid point.

I guess we all have to ask, How far do we take it?


I mean, do we all ride Harleys on VFRd because we don't want to boost the Chinese or Japanese markets with our recreational vehicle dollars?

Half the parts on Harleys are not made in America anyhow! Electronics, suspension, (whatever else) etc.


Well, my Helibars and Sargent seat are American made. The voltmeter might be too, and the windscreen, and the sprockets, but that's probably about it. The exhaust cans were made in jolly olde England (Devil) and the pipes fabricated in Canada by one dude with a shop and a welder.

Back in 1999 when my bike was built, it was built in J-A-pan. Each and every member of VFRd who owns a VFR is supporting the Far Eastern economy, so I don't feel too bad about throwing another 50 bucks their way.

100% of my bike was from Asia when it was built, and it's probably down to ~95% now.



And as for the safety concerns, hell, the aluminum they use for the levers is likely sourced from the US of A, those boats have to carry something on their return trip after all. Mfgr'd goods West, Raw Materials East.

And a CNC machine really doesn't care where it's plugged in to, or whether Bob, Nigel or Wang is the one feeding the solid block of Al into it's hungry maw.

And let's not let this get political, hell I just wanted a set of levers for my buddy's bike. :comp13:

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[image: View Post]wasmeneh, on 15 February 2010 - 03:23 PM, said:

I emailed the guy selling the ones in this link
http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item3a579e16c0

The guy responded that he didn't have any that would fit my Y2K VFR

Mike


No, but several of the other EBAY HK sellers with the lookalike levers had Q's and responded that VFR levers are currently being readied for production now and release will be very soon. Have a look around.

[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 14 February 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:

So my ZX-12 riding buddy is looking at a set of these levers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

For $72, they would seem to be a helluva deal, if thay are what they appear to be.

The pics look nice, of course, and the feedback is good, but I was wondering if anyone has actually bought and used them and can comment???

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(I already have Pazzos, courtesy of a group buy here on VFRd, so am not in the market)



I have a set of those on my CBR1000rr. they seem fine for the price. I even got them from that specific vendor as "Auctmarts" is a sponsored vendor on my CBR1000RR forum.

[image: View Post]B4D80Y, on 15 February 2010 - 07:17 PM, said:

haha
Nice final comments, keep it local...

"you�re not local! Whats all this shouting about? We dont want any trouble here!"

Hehehe loved that series.

[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 15 February 2010 - 10:21 AM, said:

I picked up the levers for him, these were the ones:

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$50 USD SHIPPED!


Going to look very nice in gold, as they'll match well.

Not his bike, but one just like it:

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Got the levers yesterday, from fondling them and looking at the machining, moving the adjuster mechanisms back and forth, I can't tell the difference between these and the Pazzos I have on my VFR. :fing02:

The shipper labelled them as "TOYS" with a value of $20 USD! :warranty:

So Veefer800Canuck you gonna ride there buts about needing to make some VFR Versions ?

[image: View Post]marid2apterbilt, on 02 March 2010 - 07:48 AM, said:

So Veefer800Canuck you gonna ride there buts about needing to make some VFR Versions ?



One of the other (numerous) Hong Kong lever sellers had Q's about that very thing on Fleabay, and stated that they were currently working on tooling up some levers for VFR 800s.


So from my experience with these industrious little Asians, I think they will have them soon.

[image: View Post]silkysmooth, on 15 February 2010 - 06:55 PM, said:

[image: View Post]The Phantom, on 15 February 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

I agree that it is very damaging in the long term to be buying cheap Chinese stuff - if you want your country to maintain a manufacturing base, you have to support it. So much of Australia's industry has gone offshore and the problem is getting worse.

It's nice to save a few bucks in the here and now, but the long-term cost is unacceptable, IMO.

For the same reason, I don't buy the generic grocery brands that our duo-poly supermarkets sell (if everyone did that the producers that don't supply them at their cut-throat wholesale prices would soon go out of business), and I spend as much as possible within the small town that I live in. I work for a corporate behemoth, but I grew up in small towns with my parents as small business owners, so I have a real appreciation of these issues.

Just a thought...


I worked for Continental tire for well over 20 years,they decided to move production to Brazil,Mexico,and or Vietnam.They backed out of there agreement to pay for are severance package,and medical coverage for retirees.I will not run conti tires and I bet this type of business practice will stop most from buying them.

I understand that it's not members issue but in the end it hurts everyone in the good old USA.Each to there own let's see unemployment and under employment hit 20%


Pazzo is in Canada. It's also imported to the states, just like the motorcycle you're going to put them on. stop crying about how other people in other countries work harder than you for less money and how that's not fair, just be thankful your on this side of the fence.

As for the quality, I've looked at these knockoffs and the Galfer knockoffs and I think I'll stick with OEM, or proven aftermarket, even though they say they're the same materials, slight deviations from the original design could create fatigue and/or failure points. when it comes to stopping I don't want any catastrophic failures.

Hong Kong Pazzo lever lookalikes for 6th Gens are going at $90. I am pretty tempted to give them a try for half the cost of Pazzos and the seller has decent feedback on the the quality of levers. What do you guys think? Do you have any experience with the levers? Do you think it will help me out with discomfort that I am experiencing in stop and go traffic while holding clutch levers?

Thanks guys,


Shorty ones,
http://cgi.ebay.com/...sQ5fAccessories


Normal length ones.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...sQ5fAccessories

[image: View Post]04VFRRider, on 08 June 2010 - 11:30 PM, said:

Hong Kong Pazzo lever lookalikes for 6th Gens are going at $90. I am pretty tempted to give them a try for half the cost of Pazzos and the seller has decent feedback on the the quality of levers. What do you guys think? Do you have any experience with the levers? Do you think it will help me out with discomfort that I am experiencing in stop and go traffic while holding clutch levers?

Thanks guys,


Shorty ones,
http://cgi.ebay.com/...sQ5fAccessories


Normal length ones.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...sQ5fAccessories



I have REAL pazzo levers shorties and I really like them, they are nice to use but are not going to help you much in the dreaded hard to hold clutch in at a stoplight. I still put mine in N at a light and let it out to rest my hand, I know this is not up to MSF safety teaching either. I think they were money well spent. Not sure why Honda has a great fluid clutch and puts in something to make it feel like a worn clutch cable binding up, way too heavy on the pull in.

The ones I got for my buddy's Kwaka looked absolutely stunning for the price.

I recently purchased a set of the levers. A friend has the Pazzo and my cheapies are identical. The materials may be different though. The only issue I had was the levers were supposed to be red. They came in an odd redish/fushia color.
My wife says they look pink!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know if I will try to return the or just use them.
For the Money they are a great value.
DON"T WAST BIG MONEY ON LEVERS. THE PAZZO ONES ARE A RIP OFF>

I just received the Hong Kong lookalikes for my '07 VFR and can not tell any difference in fit and finish from the high price ones. I paid something like $64.00 and received via airmail-registered mail in 6 business days. Makes you wonder just how much markup on the name brands?

Hey guys, I'm looking at getting these too since my front brake lever is bent now. I was thinking that the gold my add a nice accent to go with my gold drive chain. Did the gold actually look gold like in the pictures or was it more of a yellow color? I need gold, yellow would look stupid on my bike.

[image: View Post]VFRBulldawg, on 14 October 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:

Hey guys, I'm looking at getting these too since my front brake lever is bent now. I was thinking that the gold my add a nice accent to go with my gold drive chain. Did the gold actually look gold like in the pictures or was it more of a yellow color? I need gold, yellow would look stupid on my bike.


I have CRG's on my Aprilia... I ordered the gold because I too have a lot of gold accents on my bike. The color is horrible.... I hate them. Although I love the way they work.

I just recieved some fakes from China for the CBR600F3... I ordered in "natural" and they look so much better than my CRG's (which I paid 4x as much for).

[image: View Post]WERA910, on 14 October 2010 - 06:32 PM, said:

I have CRG's on my Aprilia... I ordered the gold because I too have a lot of gold accents on my bike. The color is horrible.... I hate them. Although I love the way they work.

I just recieved some fakes from China for the CBR600F3... I ordered in "natural" and they look so much better than my CRG's (which I paid 4x as much for).


Is "natural" the same as silver, meaning uncolored aluminum?

[image: View Post]VFRBulldawg, on 14 October 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

[image: View Post]WERA910, on 14 October 2010 - 06:32 PM, said:

I have CRG's on my Aprilia... I ordered the gold because I too have a lot of gold accents on my bike. The color is horrible.... I hate them. Although I love the way they work.

I just recieved some fakes from China for the CBR600F3... I ordered in "natural" and they look so much better than my CRG's (which I paid 4x as much for).


Is "natural" the same as silver, meaning uncolored aluminum?

They would be clear anodized, so yes, they will look like aluminum.

I just got my blue ones from China. I paid $42 (all inclusive price from Ebay). Received the levers in about 8 days. I don't care if they are from China, these are levers and not brakes or chain. I doubt they'll just brake off or not work properly. If the real ones were cheaper I'll get those but not at $180, maybe at $100. I won't buy domestics or North America at 4.5 times the price. I have the imitations on the bike for about one week and am loving it. I really like the adjustments and the feel when I pull on the levers. I'm thinking about getting a second set in red.

I love how people who don't own or haven't tried the Chinese levers put them down. It's like someone saying they hate apple pie, but have never tried it.

they fit and look great.

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VFR800 - Levers Left 1.jpg

i got a set of short gold ones from ebay for my 99 model and they are gr8t fit well and sturdy lot loose at all would buy them again if needed and would recommend them for your bike also. Posted Image

I bought a black set with red adjusters off eBay and the machining was great. The hardware was less impressive. The nuts were a tad loose and needed to be tightened and they were a weird size like 7.5 mm. Also, the clutch lever does not engage the clutch switch on a 5th gen. So, if you stall at a light on a hill and try to restart you will have to put it in neutral to get the starter to engage. After discovering this flaw I tested the clutch lever in all 6 adjustment positions and none of them engaged the clutch switch. I will have to disassemble and modify accordingly. I was able to get a mixed length set with a shorty brake lever (fit, finish, & function are great) and a standard length clutch lever for a low price ($46 delivered) and I still consider it a good deal with the flaw.

[image: View Post]Terminex, on 15 February 2010 - 09:53 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 14 February 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:

So my ZX-12 riding buddy is looking at a set of these levers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

For $72, they would seem to be a helluva deal, if thay are what they appear to be.

The pics look nice, of course, and the feedback is good, but I was wondering if anyone has actually bought and used them and can comment???

[image: Posted Image]


(I already have Pazzos, courtesy of a group buy here on VFRd, so am not in the market)




Update

Thought I would let everyone know that I had a a lowside at the track this weekend and the levers survived perfectly. the end of the brake lever has a little rash on it, but nothing that affects use. I have been very happy with them.
I have a set of those on my CBR1000rr. they seem fine for the price. I even got them from that specific vendor as "Auctmarts" is a sponsored vendor on my CBR1000RR forum.

[image: View Post]DougFromIndy, on 09 June 2010 - 12:17 AM, said:

I have REAL pazzo levers shorties and I really like them, they are nice to use but are not going to help you much in the dreaded hard to hold clutch in at a stoplight. I still put mine in N at a light and let it out to rest my hand, I know this is not up to MSF safety teaching either. I think they were money well spent. Not sure why Honda has a great fluid clutch and puts in something to make it feel like a worn clutch cable binding up, way too heavy on the pull in.


Not necessarily true. Found the pazzo's to be much more comfortable than stock, especially when pulling in the clutch. Maybe it's due to the geometry of the lever, but it helped me in that situation.

I purchased ones like these
EBay #280568791728

the mechanical quality is good. the finish is good, but uneven. One lever is deep black, one is washed black, as if it should have been in the coating tank a little longer. I emailed them and there is another lever on the way. We'll see when I receive it, but for the price I wasn't unhappy and bought a 2nd set as a xmas present for a friend. Since they are chinese, I'd buy 2 sets for this price and have spares for down the road. FYI, the levers interchange, only the adjusters are handed