What would you do?

I told my wife I want a new bike. This latest crop of bikes have got me really itching. She said go ahead, as long as I sell my 98 Interceptor. Gulp. Sell my VFR? Bought it slightly used in 98 and pretty much got her all dialed in at 67,000 miles. Elka rear shock, Full gold valve front forks, Staintune high mount, power commander, heli bars, Corbin Smuggler saddle, Pazzo levers, etc... BTW the new VFR is high on the list if the 98 goes. What would you do?

I have a 2006 6th Gen, really like it, have the factory hard case bags for it, & had it all painted to match. I like the idea of the new bike but won't be sure if I'll trade up for the 7th Gen until I can check it out. I think I'll need to ride my 6th Gen this summer and make a decision over next winter. The 1237cc engine, shaft drive, and push button shifting are very luring.

[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 14 March 2010 - 11:28 PM, said:

I told my wife I want a new bike. This latest crop of bikes have got me really itching. She said go ahead, as long as I sell my 98 Interceptor. Gulp. Sell my VFR? Bought it slightly used in 98 and pretty much got her all dialed in at 67,000 miles. Elka rear shock, Full gold valve front forks, Staintune high mount, power commander, heli bars, Corbin Smuggler saddle, Pazzo levers, etc... BTW the new VFR is high on the list if the 98 goes. What would you do?

Can you sell the wife? :biggrin:

I've had my '99 almost as long, same mileage, and I don't ever see selling, it isn't worth all that much. You're looking at $15K+ bikes and you'll get maybe $2500 for the '98. That'll barely cover the CA sales tax & registration.

I had the same thought but, I've got something that has significant emotional value to me and little market value. You're looking to buy something that will have the opposite value equation. You just need to explain this to the wife, keep the VFR and buy a new bike.

Bob, in the final analysis, you'd have to be sure that the new bike was going to be significantly better than what you have (especially given how much the 7th Gen is going to cost you). If you're satisifed that it will be, then go ahead. But I wish I had a dollar for every person who has said to me over the years, "Yeah, I had a VFR once. Best bike I ever owned, I wish I'd never sold it."

[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on 15 March 2010 - 12:10 AM, said:

Can you sell the wife? :biggrin:

I've had my '99 almost as long, same mileage, and I don't ever see selling, it isn't worth all that much. You're looking at $15K+ bikes and you'll get maybe $2500 for the '98. That'll barely cover the CA sales tax & registration.

I had the same thought but, I've got something that has significant emotional value to me and little market value. You're looking to buy something that will have the opposite value equation. You just need to explain this to the wife, keep the VFR and buy a new bike.

I was thinking the EXACT same thing... explain to her how your 98 is "worthless" to sell but is emotionally important to you... get two bikes... and then a third... it gets easier after breaking the barrier :fing02:

[image: View Post]MattB, on 15 March 2010 - 09:40 AM, said:

I was thinking the EXACT same thing... explain to her how your 98 is "worthless" to sell but is emotionally important to you... get two bikes... and then a third... it gets easier after breaking the barrier :fing02:


Or list the '98 on ebay for ten grand and act surprised when it doesn't sell... :laughing6-hehe:

count how much money you have for a NEW bike.. and get yourself a project bike instead! make that rc45 repilica or whatever your dream about.. :fing02:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 15 March 2010 - 10:09 AM, said:

Or list the '98 on ebay for ten grand and act surprised when it doesn't sell... :laughing6-hehe:


Yeah. That's the ticket.
Only make it a little better and calculate how much your 98 is worth to you. E.g. the money that you'd have to spend to buy another one and dial it in just like this one.
Then list on eBay for that amount.
My guess is, that you will be asking close to 5-6K for it.
It will never sell of course.
"Honey, see, I toldya it was worthless..."

And if it does sell, well, then it is faith. Just roll with it.

P.S.
Something tells me that it's not just about the money though.

I'm assuming you still want to attend track days? I only ask because I can't see you taking a brand new squeaky clean VFR1200F to the track :unsure:

I'm in agreement with everyone else, keep the 98 and then get a new toy :fing02: You could always register the 98 as a non-op, remove it from your insurance and use it exclusively as a track bike... I'm just sayin' :biggrin:

+ 1 million. A 5th gen with 67k miles isn't worth much (maybe $2500, as stated before), but it's a badass bike that you'll regret selling. Plus with all the time and money you've spent on it, it's worth more to you than anyone else. I plan on keeping mine forever.

Sell the wife. Then you'll be able to afford two new bikes, and keep the VFR.

If it's worth it to you, it's worth doing. But personally, I wouldn't do it. Your 5th gen. sounds like it's farkled very nicely. If you have dough to spend, how about doing another mod or two instead - a fresh coat of paint, powdercoat the wheels or maybe even a ToroCharger?

Or attend a track school or two - Keith Code, etc?

Or maybe buy a decent cruiser, something your wife would ride with you, assuming she will ride pillion?

Keep the '98 and get a new Multistrada 1200 (touring version - about $20K, and worth every penny). It puts the VFR1200 to shame (IMHO).

Put the '98 on Craigs List or wherever, and provide an incorrect contact phone number. Then tell the little lady that it just won't sell due to its age and extremely high mileage (though it's just barely broken in).

This is not lying! It's merely making a difficult situation easy for her to accept. Good luck! Posted Image

[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 15 March 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:

Bob, in the final analysis, you'd have to be sure that the new bike was going to be significantly better than what you have (especially given how much the 7th Gen is going to cost you). If you're satisifed that it will be, then go ahead. But I wish I had a dollar for every person who has said to me over the years, "Yeah, I had a VFR once. Best bike I ever owned, I wish I'd never sold it."


Posted Image . I am going to start making everyone that tells me that give me a dollar. Then I can buy a new one and compare. So far the 5th gen is as nice as the 3rd (think the 90 had a little more power, but feels a little longer - handling wise). And the big plus - its running. Taking my time away from the re-build of the 3rd gen!

Bob, I agree with what everyone else is saying - the VFR is worth a lot more than you could sell it for, and having ridden it I have to agree that it is nicely dialed in and you have it set up just the way you like it. I think you would regret selling it in the long run.

Nothing wrong with having 2 bikes....or 3! ;p

I'd go with a 600RR, but as you know I'm kind of wierd :goofy:


Seriously, depends on what kind of riding you're most interested in and planning to do.

If you want to chat about it, feel free to give me a call or PM :wheel:


Like others have said...if you could keep the VFR and get something else(sportbike) you'd have the best of both worlds really :cheerleader:

[image: View Post]Jmmymc750, on 15 March 2010 - 12:08 PM, said:

[image: View Post]rc36Honda, on 15 March 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:

Bob, in the final analysis, you'd have to be sure that the new bike was going to be significantly better than what you have (especially given how much the 7th Gen is going to cost you). If you're satisifed that it will be, then go ahead. But I wish I had a dollar for every person who has said to me over the years, "Yeah, I had a VFR once. Best bike I ever owned, I wish I'd never sold it."


Posted Image . I am going to start making everyone that tells me that give me a dollar. Then I can buy a new one and compare. So far the 5th gen is as nice as the 3rd (think the 90 had a little more power, but feels a little longer - handling wise). And the big plus - its running. Taking my time away from the re-build of the 3rd gen!


How about "Yeah, I had a VFR once. Best bike I ever owned, I wish I had never CRASHED it."?
If so, I don't think I owe you a dollar, as I got another VFR.

But seriously, I have to agree with everyone else here, it's a high mileage VFR that is set up to you. Selling it just wouldn't be worth it. You could spend $20,000 on a new VFR to find that it is only slightly better than your old bike. It really depends, what are you looking for? More power? More touring? Lighter?

Or buy a 6th gen and transfer over as many of your farkles as you can. :biggrin:

[image: View Post]TimC, on 15 March 2010 - 11:51 AM, said:

<SNIP> If you have dough to spend, how about doing another mod or two instead - a fresh coat of paint, powdercoat the wheels or maybe even a ToroCharger?

<SNIP>

Or maybe buy a decent cruiser, something your wife would ride with you, assuming she will ride pillion?

If he were to do all the above he'd easily have another $6500 invested in a bike worth $3k which would STILL have 67k miles on it. Although less money, to me this sounds more irrational then buying another bike to have.

A CRUISER!?! A CRUISER!?! That's blasphemy... I've asked my kids to put me out of my misery if I ever buy a cruiser b/c I'd obviously lost my mind and had nothing left to offer the world. :comp13:

PS: why could/would his wife ride pillion on a cruiser and not a VFR1200 anyway?

Sounds like your 98 is about the perfect VFR, can't get much better than a nicely dialed-in 5th gen and for a lot less than the $20k you could Toro Charge the 5th gen to boot! :woohoo:

BR

[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 14 March 2010 - 11:28 PM, said:

I told my wife I want a new bike. This latest crop of bikes have got me really itching. She said go ahead, as long as I sell my 98 Interceptor. Gulp. Sell my VFR? Bought it slightly used in 98 and pretty much got her all dialed in at 67,000 miles. Elka rear shock, Full gold valve front forks, Staintune high mount, power commander, heli bars, Corbin Smuggler saddle, Pazzo levers, etc... BTW the new VFR is high on the list if the 98 goes. What would you do?


Do what I'm doing - put some more cash into your VFR and buy a track bike!

SELL IT TO WHEATIE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

:cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

I agree with everyone else on this thread. A gen5 with >50k on it isn't worth selling on ebay, craigslist, or even trading in. You'd be lucky to get $2500 for it in this economy.

I'd list the wife on ebay and see if you can get enough from that to buy a gen7.

:cheerleader:

I have a VFR1200F. I sold my CBR1100XX and kept my VFR800 (5th Gen). I think that says it all.

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

I have a VFR1200F. I sold my CBR1100XX and kept my VFR800 (5th Gen). I think that says it all.


Oooops ! If you're on the home page, then I guessed wrong... I mentioned Netherlands.. Eh, what do I know ! I'm a SoCal boy !!

:rolleyes:

[image: View Post]Wheatie, on 16 March 2010 - 03:55 PM, said:

SELL IT TO WHEATIE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

:cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:



:goofy:

I wouldn't sell the 5th gen. Same as everyone above.

I'd flip a coin on two choices. Either buy another used toy like a super moto or whatnot, or, since you do a lot of track, get it torocharged and give us a good review on improvement on the track.

[image: View Post]Wheatie, on 16 March 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

I have a VFR1200F. I sold my CBR1100XX and kept my VFR800 (5th Gen). I think that says it all.


Oooops ! If you're on the home page, then I guessed wrong... I mentioned Netherlands.. Eh, what do I know ! I'm a SoCal boy !!

:rolleyes:


Yes mate, I commented on your homepage quote but it's cool, there's nothing there to suggest either way! To be honest I've no idea what socal is; a diet drink? ;)

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 06:55 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Wheatie, on 16 March 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

I have a VFR1200F. I sold my CBR1100XX and kept my VFR800 (5th Gen). I think that says it all.


Oooops ! If you're on the home page, then I guessed wrong... I mentioned Netherlands.. Eh, what do I know ! I'm a SoCal boy !!

:rolleyes:


Yes mate, I commented on your homepage quote but it's cool, there's nothing there to suggest either way! To be honest I've no idea what socal is; a diet drink? ;)


Actually, it's Southern California, US of A !! There's more beer consumed here than diet drinks, rest assured ! ! ! :woohoo:

Doh ok I get it So(uth) Cal(ifornia), haha I won't forget that now.

You know what they say, we are two countries separated by a common language :)

Did someone mention beer???? lol

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 07:16 PM, said:

Doh ok I get it So(uth) Cal(ifornia), haha I won't forget that now.

You know what they say, we are two countries separated by a common language :)

Did someone mention beer???? lol


:cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

[image: View Post]Das Bone, on 15 March 2010 - 12:14 PM, said:

I'd go with a 600RR, but as you know I'm kind of wierd :goofy:


Seriously, depends on what kind of riding you're most interested in and planning to do.

If you want to chat about it, feel free to give me a call or PM :wheel:


Like others have said...if you could keep the VFR and get something else(sportbike) you'd have the best of both worlds really :cheerleader:

Yeah I guess I'm thinking along those same lines. I was just suprised at her saying buy a new bike. Seemed like a great opportunity but if I sell my VFR I'm stuck with a pure sportbike or a heavier sport tourer which leaves me with less options as far as riding goes. I don't think she has any idea a new bike cost over $10k much less over $15k. Thanks for talking me down. I needed it. I'll just shop for a smoking deal on the sportbike of my dreams and have to keep the 98. Thing still runs like it's new.

The 98 VFR stays since it's the best of all worlds. You guys crack me up. I enjoyed reading all the comments. Track bike is probably exactly what I want next. Project bikes can be a blast.

[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 17 March 2010 - 12:31 AM, said:

The 98 VFR stays since it's the best of all worlds. You guys crack me up. I enjoyed reading all the comments. Track bike is probably exactly what I want next. Project bikes can be a blast.


:( But good decision ! Now BTORSP ! ! !

:biggrin:

[image: View Post]MattB, on 15 March 2010 - 02:16 PM, said:

PS: why could/would his wife ride pillion on a cruiser and not a VFR1200 anyway?


Vibrations??
Just kidding. :rolleyes:

There was a Federal deduction for the value of sales tax on any vehicle bought new, in 2009, but it expired. It covered motorcycles, too.
Why, papa Honda, could you not have sha(f)t out the 1200 during that calendar year? [weep]

[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on 15 March 2010 - 12:10 AM, said:

....you're looking at $15K+ bikes and you'll get maybe $2500 for the '98. That'll barely cover the CA sales tax & registration.

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

I have a VFR1200F. I sold my CBR1100XX and kept my VFR800 (5th Gen). I think that says it all.

What he said :excl:

Keep it and add a Supercharger.

[image: View Post]Cynic, on 16 March 2010 - 07:16 PM, said:

Doh ok I get it So(uth) Cal(ifornia), haha I won't forget that now.

You know what they say, we are two countries separated by a common language :)

Did someone mention beer???? lol



Don't get your hopes up....... you ever tries what is called beer in the US? :unsure:

Keep the VFR :bliss:

Hey Cynic do you still use your VFR800 much now that you have the 1200? Are there any things it does better (apart from having a better sound obviously)

[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 14 March 2010 - 11:28 PM, said:

I told my wife I want a new bike. This latest crop of bikes have got me really itching. She said go ahead, as long as I sell my 98 Interceptor. Gulp. Sell my VFR? Bought it slightly used in 98 and pretty much got her all dialed in at 67,000 miles. Elka rear shock, Full gold valve front forks, Staintune high mount, power commander, heli bars, Corbin Smuggler saddle, Pazzo levers, etc... BTW the new VFR is high on the list if the 98 goes. What would you do?

Well my first question to you on this is why does she want you to sell the VFR and not the RMZ??

Second, as many pointed out, its not going to bring in that much $$. Does your wife understand this? Does it even make an impact on purchasing the 7th gen? I mean would it make a difference in whether you are financing it or buying it outright?

I mean it sounds like this is just the wife trying to get her "way" on this, you don't seem interested in getting rid of the 98.
I wouldn't let it go..

It sounds like you need to have a long think about this and then a long talk with the wife.
There's a lot of "she might be" going on in your post, so do have to think about that and work out the real answers for yourself.

I have had a VFR of some sort for at least a dozen years and currently have a '98 all set up and dialed in just like you say. It's by far the best VFR I have had. I also have a Valky cruiser beast for the last 10 years. I couldnt sell either, but I have tried out different bikes in the mean time for different flavors here and there. The flavor bikes end up getting sold, but the "core" 2 bikes are here to stay, especially the VFR. I will never not have a VFR. It just does everything, no muss, no fuss, with a lot of soul. :wheel:

MD

As stated above, keep the vfr and see if you can track down one of those 1000rr's on the cheap.