easiest weight reduction mods?
-Remove passenger peg brackets.
-Remove centerstand.
-If installed, remove passenger grab handles.
-Install fender eliminator kit.
-Install aftermarket system with aluminum, carbon fiber or titanium exhaust cans.
-Swap out OEM bar ends for lighter ones.
-De-link brakes.
I wouldn't recommend all these - esp. de-linking the brake system - but it's your bike.
If you want a real weight reduction mod that counts big time, performance-wise,...........just buy a CBR1000R or any other popular first line sportbike out there.
Beck
95 VFR
[image: View Post]sckego, on 24 August 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:
I think an 8-spoke rear wheel and an f4i front wheel both save some weight over stock. Those are unsprung, rotating masses as well, so the savings will be magnified. Also, don't fill up your gas tank all the way. :laughing6-hehe:Uhmmm...if you are interested in lighter VFR OEM rear wheels wheels, the lightest OEM wheel to fit the SSS will be the 4th gen 5 spoker......IIRC, the 8 spoker might be the heaviest VFR rear wheel so far......
Beck
95 VFR
[image: View Post]Beck, on 24 August 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:
Uhmmm...if you are interested in lighter VFR OEM rear wheels wheels, the lightest OEM wheel to fit the SSS will be the 4th gen 5 spoker......IIRC, the 8 spoker might be the heaviest VFR rear wheel so far......Hrm, ok, sorry for the misinformation. I could have sworn I remembered reading some time ago that the 8-spokers were lighter. Perhaps my memory is failing... :pinocchio:
[image: View Post]sckego, on 24 August 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Beck, on 24 August 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:
Uhmmm...if you are interested in lighter VFR OEM rear wheels wheels, the lightest OEM wheel to fit the SSS will be the 4th gen 5 spoker......IIRC, the 8 spoker might be the heaviest VFR rear wheel so far......Hrm, ok, sorry for the misinformation. I could have sworn I remembered reading some time ago that the 8-spokers were lighter. Perhaps my memory is failing... :pinocchio:
http://www.vfrdiscus...__1#entry594881
8 spoke and 5 spoke (5-6G) reported to be the same weight, 13.1 lbs.
[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on 24 August 2010 - 06:13 PM, said:
[image: View Post]sckego, on 24 August 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Beck, on 24 August 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:
Uhmmm...if you are interested in lighter VFR OEM rear wheels wheels, the lightest OEM wheel to fit the SSS will be the 4th gen 5 spoker......IIRC, the 8 spoker might be the heaviest VFR rear wheel so far......Hrm, ok, sorry for the misinformation. I could have sworn I remembered reading some time ago that the 8-spokers were lighter. Perhaps my memory is failing... :pinocchio:
http://www.vfrdiscus...__1#entry594881
8 spoke and 5 spoke (5-6G) reported to be the same weight, 13.1 lbs.
I think BLS will disagree.......
Beck
95 VFR
[image: View Post]VFR04, on 24 August 2010 - 07:35 AM, said:
Hey I was just wondering if anyone was aware of some cheap/easy mods to decrease bike weight?? ThanxThe easiest is going from stock exhaust to aftermarket - Aluminum, Titanium or Carbon. After that the price keeps going up.
Ok off topic but he's the newbie...........
-------Ummm, arent you the newbie 16 year old rider? --- Take any money you think would spend and use it for rider training. Buy Nick Ienatsh's book, Sport Riding, read it cover to cover, pratice, pratice, practice, read it again, pratice, practice again. Then maybe when you think your skills may have improved, consider some upgrades.
---I'm kinda stealing this line but....
When you start riding, you get a big bucket full of luck and another big bucket that is empty on skill. Your job is to fill up the skill bucket before the luck bucket is all used up.
Good luck dude.
[image: View Post]mello dude, on 24 August 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:
[image: View Post]VFR04, on 24 August 2010 - 07:35 AM, said:
Hey I was just wondering if anyone was aware of some cheap/easy mods to decrease bike weight?? ThanxOk off topic but he's the newbie...........
-------Ummm, arent you the newbie 16 year old rider? --- Take any money you think would spend and use it for rider training. Buy Nick Ienatsh's book, Sport Riding, read it cover to cover, pratice, pratice, practice, read it again, pratice, practice again. Then maybe when you think your skills may have improved, consider some upgrades.
---I'm kinda stealing this line but....
When you start riding, you get a big bucket full of luck and another big bucket that is empty on skill. Your job is to fill up the skill bucket before the luck bucket is all used up.
Good luck dude.
:+1: :beer: :fing02:
Even if your Not a newbie, the best preformance gain per $ will be rider training!
BR
If the VFR's weight is a real issue right now, I suggest you pick up and 250cc motorcycle and lay some miles on it. Most 250's weigh around 300lbs and thus is lot more manageable for a newbie. (Just make sure it's a motorcycle with a real transmission, and not a scooter.)
[image: View Post]mello dude, on 24 August 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:
[image: View Post]VFR04, on 24 August 2010 - 07:35 AM, said:
Hey I was just wondering if anyone was aware of some cheap/easy mods to decrease bike weight?? ThanxThe easiest is going from stock exhaust to aftermarket - Aluminum, Titanium or Carbon. After that the price keeps going up.
Ok off topic but he's the newbie...........
-------Ummm, arent you the newbie 16 year old rider? --- Take any money you think would spend and use it for rider training. Buy Nick Ienatsh's book, Sport Riding, read it cover to cover, pratice, pratice, practice, read it again, pratice, practice again. Then maybe when you think your skills may have improved, consider some upgrades.
---I'm kinda stealing this line but....
When you start riding, you get a big bucket full of luck and another big bucket that is empty on skill. Your job is to fill up the skill bucket before the luck bucket is all used up.
Good luck dude.
+1000
Don't know how close this is to you, but Lee Parks is awesome and money well spent IMO.
http://alphatrainingcenter.com/ARC.php
When I was on the Formula SAE team at PSU, we had the lightest 4-cylinder car by a huge margin, around 50+lbs IIRC. Our car fully fueled weighed 380lb, and to get it that light we used titanium in every possible location, and eliminated absolutely anything that wasn't crucial to performance. It could have been lighter, too, but full titanium frames weren't allowed. The key, though, and the reason we were so much lighter than everyone else, was the elimination of unnecessary weight on every component on the vehicle (down to drilling out the titanium bolts and running aluminum - yes, specially coated aluminum - brake rotors) -- little by little, it all adds up. This approach is what allowed RV4 to get his VFR750 down to 300lb, and taken on a more moderate scale, can allow you to shed some decent weight off your own bike.
If you don't ride 2-up, yank all the passenger controls. Get rid of the centerstand and any extra emissions components (EVAP canister, solenoid valve, PAIR system). Eliminate the rear fender, chain guards, heat guards, and any extra brackets. Delink the brakes. In other words, all the stuff TimC said earlier.
After that, you're going to have to start spending money: '98-'99 header or aftermarket catless setup with some aftermarket pipes; lightweight front wheel & rotors; 520 chain & sprocket conversion; fastener replacement.
If you're looking for more, fab work & megabucks comes into play: single nut conversion & lightweight rear wheel (or a complete swingarm swap somehow), lighter weight rear subframe, carbon body panels, lightweight solo seat, exotic materials, engine lightening, etc. etc., the list could go on forever, and the further you go, the less and less your bike is a VFR.
Unless you go all out, you'll never get it down to what the new superbikes weigh in at, but if you are just looking at dropping a few pounds, it can be done, and it can be done cheaply, as long as you're willing to put in some wrench work.
the OEM +s-pipe to the collector box weighed in at 6+ kilo
The CF Akrapovic+titanium s-pipe 1.6 kilo
[image: View Post]cornercarver, on 24 August 2010 - 08:11 AM, said:
cut out french fries and dont eat anything after 8 pm....No joke! I lost 50 pounds this year and it's helped a ton, and I'm still a fat guy.
Honestly you can't drop a noticeable amount of weight off this bike without spending way more money than I ever had as a teenager. Plus, as a newbie you wouldn't want to spend all that money on your bike up front since you're more likely to crash it and lose all that money until you get some experience under your belt. If you're worried about the weight and dropping the bike at low speed don't be too up tight about it. Any mistakes you might make would probably result in a drop even if the bike was 100 lbs lighter. If you got some money spent, advanced rider training is the way to go with it. If you're just dead set on having a bike that weighs less than 400 lbs then you bought the wrong bike. ;-)
Welcome to VFRD! You'll find the people here are very helpful and fun to ride and hang out with. The squid to real rider ratio is also very low amongst VFR owners. :-)
ready to roll... thats about 25K in tasty mods... however $5,450 of it was for my labor...
The Speed Cell battery removed 6lb 10oz of weight at only $36 a pound... thats a
bargain for me...
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My hand made Akrapovic Titanium exhaust cost $2,900.00 and removed 8
pounds... that's $362 a pound!!! Finally the kicker was the addition
of Ferodo's Ceramic Matrix Composite rotors for a 3 lb drop in weight
costing $2,300... mercy that's $766 a pound!!!
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Mr.RC45's new weight and balance figures... 407lbs dry with 52% front
48% rear weight bias... I'm so pleased...
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When will our bikes ever been done??? BLS growing list of mods...
1 BLS magnesium Triple Clamps with 35mm offset... $1,200
http://farm3.static....35b7d3a42_o.jpg
2 Ohlins FG310 Superbike Forks... $1,500
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3 BLS tank bag platform... $50
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4 Ferodo Ceramic Matrix Composite Front Disc... $2,300
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5 Brembo billet radial Front Calipers... $1,500
http://farm4.static....d34585b46_o.jpg
6 BLS Magnesium radial caliper mounts... $1,000
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7 Marchesini Magnesium 3.5x17 Front Rim that was owned by Wayne Rainey
when he sponsored Jimmy Felice YZ250R... $500
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8 BLS 7075 T6 aluminum Front Axle... $350
http://home.comcast....AxleComparo.JPG
9 BLS 7075 T6 Bar Risers... $450
http://home.comcast....5BarsCables.JPG
10 Brembo radial Front Brake master cylinder $275
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11 Brembo billet radial clutch master cylinder $375
12 Lockhart Phillips Quick Throttle Delrin throttle barrel $150
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13 Taper Steering Head Bearings... Koyo 39207JR-2 15.75 ea
14 Lockhart Turn Signals... $50
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15 QB Carbon Front fender...$150
16 BLS K&N Air Cleaner... $60
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17 BLS modifed LED Tail lights... $150
http://home.comcast....EDStopLight.JPG
18 BLS Carbon Fiber Mirror covers... $100
19 Zero Gravity Dubble Bubble Wind Screen... $150
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20 BLS Aluminum tank bracket... $100
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21 BLS T47 Temper Foam Seat and black canvas cover... $85
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22 BLS Ball bearing Rear Sets with Mil Spec rod ends... $550
http://www.vfrdiscus...31_51_90260.jpg
23 Ohlins Rear Shock... $680
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24 BLS 7075 T6 aluminum Ride height adjusted with nut... $150
http://www.vfrdiscus...31_51_98328.jpg
25 BLS 4130 chromoly NL5 Rear Axle Mod with nut... $500
http://www.vfrdiscus...31_51_18755.jpg
26 BLS 7075 T6 aluminum kick stand...$500
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27 BLS modified steel 525 ZX7R sprocket... $250
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28 BLS Carbon Fiber Exhaust Can... $350
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29 BLS 7075 T6 aluminum end cap with 90 dba stamp... $250
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30 3 spoke Marchesini magnesium 6x17 Rear Rim from Freddie Spencer's
RC30...$600
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31 QB Carbon Fiber Tail Cowl with BLS access panel... $450
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32 Titanium exhaust hand crafted out of Akrapovic parts by Rob
Lindeman (RC45 owner)...$2,500
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33 BLS Billet aluminum rear caliper mount... $500
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34 Brembo billet 4 pot Gp rear caliper... $500
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35 Speigler billet rear master cylinder... $350
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36 HRC swingarm upgrade with BLS home made machine parts... $5000
http://www.vfrdiscus...131_51_1405.jpg
37 Speedcell 1 lb 6 oz battery replaced 7 lb stock battery $250
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38 QB Carbon all carbon fiber fairings $1,200
http://home.comcast....rbonHRCpart.JPG
I don't mean to have a particularly negative post, but many of us would prefer to see a relatively new rider keep the bike and learn to use it (they are better than most of us can ride) rather than the post that we all dread to see - rider down, blah blah blah followed by an ad on craigslist about a damaged VFR.
[image: View Post]VFR04, on 25 August 2010 - 08:34 AM, said:
yes i am the Noobie! hopefully not for long, but... anyway i am already taking a training course at our local Harley dealer and from what i have heard thats always step 1! but with my spare cash i was thinking bout making some mods on my bike to possibly reduce the weight, i mean what the heck it couldn't hurt, could it?? but also thanx for the tip on that book im gonna hop right on that n look it up!Save your money to keep the bike running, Weight reduction is a waste of issue for vfr on the street, unless you intend to track it.
You've been talking on a squid networks, stay stock, learn to ride. How bout some good tires, you can save 4 or 5 lbs there
and if you have skills, fabricate a rear subframe out of aluminum sq. stock and size it to carry the seat you like, the rear lights, etc. You can probably use a cbr 600 rear tail plastics.
Everyone notices the difference in drving when your fueltank was almost empty and you just filled it to the max.
[image: View Post]spud786, on 25 August 2010 - 10:02 PM, said:
[image: View Post]VFR04, on 25 August 2010 - 08:34 AM, said:
yes i am the Noobie! hopefully not for long, but... anyway i am already taking a training course at our local Harley dealer and from what i have heard thats always step 1! but with my spare cash i was thinking bout making some mods on my bike to possibly reduce the weight, i mean what the heck it couldn't hurt, could it?? but also thanx for the tip on that book im gonna hop right on that n look it up!Save your money to keep the bike running, Weight reduction is a waste of issue for vfr on the street, unless you intend to track it.
You've been talking on a squid networks, stay stock, learn to ride. How bout some good tires, you can save 4 or 5 lbs there
Spud speaks wise words. A 200 lb. rider that knows how to ride the twisties very well will leave a 130 pounder behind that doesn't know much about how to go around a turn..... :fing02: Knowledge and ability can be had in time, practice and learning proper technique. 70#'s of VFR weight reduction.....good luck..... :biggrin:
I think Toro was the only one who didn't lecture you about safety. Enjoy your VFR, because all of us wish we had discovered ours sooner. Keep it shiny side up, young man!
[image: View Post]spud786, on 25 August 2010 - 10:02 PM, said:
...... How bout some good tires, you can save 4 or 5 lbs there
Agreed. That was my suggestion in fact... The new michelin power pure tire is way lighter than than the previous incarnation; Pilot Power 2ct tire. Also rides better in the wet and works when cold because of its all-new compound technology. Lighter, more grip and higher durability are the claims. So far I've heard great feedback from owners of these new michelins.