So will The CrossRunner be VFRD worthy?

What do you think boys?

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I like it :fing02:

I'm sure that's a photochop... that aside, it would seem that would be the vtec setup. If that's the case, they better figure out how to drop some weight, I'd think... an adventure bike that pushing over 500lbs would sure get tiring.

Super Fugly IMO! :blink:

[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 18 October 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

Super Fugly IMO! :blink:


We will see in a few weeks what it really looks like...but the rumor is it will use "maybe" the 6th gen motor. Also a 1200 version GS competitor will be produced sometime in the future.

From the Moto-station website...with crude translation.

"XL800V Crossover, no doubt here hides a credible interpretation of what Honda to unveil us next EICMA in Milan Show. This was already some time that Moto - station .com was instantly. We knew through different sources that the Japanese manufacturer was preparing to present end of 2010 a new road trail equipped with a four cylinder v We had logically considered to a declination of the Honda VFR1200F, newest flagship brand with this type of motorization. In the meantime, two different sources have shown us this new trail would eventually be a cylinder capacity of 800 cm3, what this Honda France note reproduced at bottom of the page seems to confirm it also."

The bike will (hopefully) look nothing like that. That looks like an incredibly useless large displacement dual sport.

Vtech? oh nevermind :goofy:

What's up with every new adventure bike having a duck bill (e.g., Multi, VFR1200ST, etc.)? How about an original design?

That encompasses pretty much everything I've never wanted in a bike!

[image: View Post]dude, on 18 October 2010 - 04:57 PM, said:

Vtech? oh nevermind :goofy:



Generation III of Vtec :beatdeadhorse:

[image: View Post]Tightwad, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

That encompasses pretty much everything I've never wanted in a bike!

:+1:

I'm right there with ya mate - this could very well be my next bike! :cheerleader:

And to answer your question - okay it's not an interceptor but I think it should qualify you for VFRD membership - it's a honda V4 after all!

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

What do you think boys?



Not a boy, but it definitely interests me. The long travel suspension and larger front wheel is good for what passes for roads in my part of the world, where you don't have to go off the roads to find sand, gravel, and bumps. The traillie ergos suit my long legs and short torso.

I don't care what it looks like, because I want it to ride, not to look at.

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[image: View Post]Tightwad, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

That encompasses pretty much everything I've never wanted in a bike!

:+1:

I'm right there with ya mate - this could very well be my next bike! :cheerleader:


Que?

[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 05:58 PM, said:

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 18 October 2010 - 05:55 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Tightwad, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

That encompasses pretty much everything I've never wanted in a bike!

:+1:

I'm right there with ya mate - this could very well be my next bike! :cheerleader:


Que?


Oooops - silly me! -- got too excited and read what I wanted to read! :mellow:

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[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

What do you think boys?



Not a boy, but it definitely interests me. The long travel suspension and larger front wheel is good for what passes for roads in my part of the world, where you don't have to go off the roads to find sand, gravel, and bumps. The traillie ergos suit my long legs and short torso.

I don't care what it looks like, because I want it to ride, not to look at.


Long travel is the thing sometimes especially to make time in the rough stuff...paved or otherwise.

yes but for less money you could have this 800 moto
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[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 18 October 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:

yes but for less money you could have this 800 moto
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Are you sure the beemer costs less? I'd take the beemer, but, last I checked, it's going for around $15k.

But the Honda has the sweet V4! The BMW is a parallel twin and probably makes considerably less power.

The bike - a big and hearty YES!

The color scheme - No No No...

Even if they build it, what are the odds it will come here? I wouldn't bet on it...

Whack off half the bodywork and I might be interested. I'm not sure a V4 is the best off-road mill, but what do I know?

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 18 October 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:

yes but for less money you could have this 800 moto
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Fook the beemer, Triumph for the win :bliss:

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[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 18 October 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:

yes but for less money you could have this 800 moto
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Are you sure the beemer costs less? I'd take the beemer, but, last I checked, it's going for around $15k.


BMW's website says just over 13k...

Oh god,....I noticed "Crossover bike" mentioned :blink: ...that's it!! the motorcycle division at Honda is truly dying out.........."Crossover" had only been car/SUV speak till now.....

Beck
95 VFR

[image: View Post]VFOr, on 18 October 2010 - 07:02 PM, said:

Fook the beemer, Triumph for the win :bliss:

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Got my eye on this one too. The GS does not have enough gas for me.

F'ugly. :comp13:

Very heavy for off road, but I guess so are some of the beemers. :mellow:

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[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 18 October 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:

yes but for less money you could have this 800 moto
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Are you sure the beemer costs less? I'd take the beemer, but, last I checked, it's going for around $15k.


BMW's website says just over 13k...


How much is the Honda? It'd be ridiculous if the Honda cost more than $13k, but I wouldn't be too surprised.

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

What do you think boys?

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Perhaps the ugliest two-wheeled vehicle I have ever had the displeasure of viewing. :blink:

[image: View Post]JBAXX, on 18 October 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

What do you think boys?

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Perhaps the ugliest two-wheeled vehicle I have ever had the displeasure of viewing. :blink:


Varaveefer!
it's about two VStroms too late. Still, I trust the engine will save it.

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[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

What do you think boys?

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Perhaps the ugliest two-wheeled vehicle I have ever had the displeasure of viewing. :blink:


But all adv bikes are ugly :goofy:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 10:20 PM, said:

[image: View Post]JBAXX, on 18 October 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 18 October 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

What do you think boys?

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Perhaps the ugliest two-wheeled vehicle I have ever had the displeasure of viewing. :blink:


But all adv bikes are ugly :goofy:


Does it come with a Cape?!

[image: View Post]ss_burns, on 18 October 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:

I'm sure that's a photochop...

It is. Here are the two drawings Honda realeased of the bike that will probably replace the varadero.

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[image: View Post]YoshiHNS, on 18 October 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:

The bike will (hopefully) look nothing like that. That looks like an incredibly useless large displacement dual sport.


That, is the reason it would be made. For no other reason than just that, it is too fat to be on/off road. It could use some more time at R&D.

I'm not really into dual-sports, but they're quite popular in some parts of the world (France, in particular, for some strange reason). Honda has a tradition of large-displacement enduros, though few of them (if any?) were ever sold in the 'States. Before the VTR1000F-engined Varadero, there was the XLV650/750 Africa Twin and, of course, the venerable Transalp. I must confess a certain admiration for the Africa Twin, but I understand it was always a bit of a pig...

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Ciao,

[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 19 October 2010 - 06:48 AM, said:

[image: View Post]ss_burns, on 18 October 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:

I'm sure that's a photochop...

It is. Here are the two drawings Honda realeased of the bike that will probably replace the varadero.

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Yes the drawings are out there....and looks like the photochop incorporated some of that theme. Only a couple of weeks more to find out the real scoop.

V4 Rosso you have been to a couple of those Euro Shows before right??? I seem to remember a report from you a few years back. While we have bike shows here in the US not sure we really have new bike world introductions at our US shows.

After my Alaska tour, I would say small is better than big when it comes to Adv Bikes but of course "It depends".

From a design point of view, my dream adv bike would be light and torquey so it's easy to lift or pick up if I happen to lay it down or get it stuck in gravel or sand. It would also be pretty much crash proof (very little plastic please, and cheap to replace if I damage them), easy to fix and reliable. Easy to pack with sturdy side cases and top box, and road worthy, of course. Seems to me this new one will be waaaaaay too heavy, plastic will be expensive to replace, and the engine will need to rev (highway). In any case, this can always be used as a city bike with highway commuting. Looks first. Just my 2 cents.
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[image: View Post]JZH, on 19 October 2010 - 08:56 AM, said:

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I would buy one of these if they were offered in the States. Looks very capable.

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 19 October 2010 - 10:24 AM, said:

While we have bike shows here in the US not sure we really have new bike world introductions at our US shows.

I think the Fury had it's world debut at a US show and surely HD will show off it's new colours first at a US bike show, or not? :happy:
From what I read dual sports are not very popular in The States, here a dual sport is the best selling bike (BMW 1200 GS). Also cruisers are not as popular here as they are in the US but I don't know if the jap cruisers manufactuurers let their cruisers EICMA The US is a totally different market. I guess the best selling bike in the US is a cruiser, here a HD is always high up on the lop ten list of most sold bikes but it's just one model, all teh others are dual sport and sport bikes.

I've never been to EICMA, would sure like to go check it out sometime. The show I did a write up on here on VFRD was considered quite large by some members here, but it is in fact quit small when looking at the other European shows. Motorbeurs attracts about 100K visitors but EICMA attracts 400K visitors. But EICMA it's not only motorcycles but also bicycles so say half of that visits the motorcycle show. How many vistors does a US show attract on average, maybe that has something to do with it too.

Because ugly is in.... Let us start with a Goldwing and a TW200.
Lets chop the windscreen down and add high mount exaust and intake with 10 inches of travel.
----Someone should photo shop this and start a poll, BTW----
Lets not get too stupid and add third row seating on our "cross ute trans conti" bike thing

What was wrong with duals with 650cc? What happen to "on" and "off" road?

[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 19 October 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 19 October 2010 - 10:24 AM, said:

While we have bike shows here in the US not sure we really have new bike world introductions at our US shows.

I think the Fury had it's world debut at a US show and surely HD will show off it's new colours first at a US bike show, or not? :happy:
From what I read dual sports are not very popular in The States, here a dual sport is the best selling bike (BMW 1200 GS). Also cruisers are not as popular here as they are in the US but I don't know if the jap cruisers manufactuurers let their cruisers EICMA The US is a totally different market. I guess the best selling bike in the US is a cruiser, here a HD is always high up on the lop ten list of most sold bikes but it's just one model, all teh others are dual sport and sport bikes.

I've never been to EICMA, would sure like to go check it out sometime. The show I did a write up on here on VFRD was considered quite large by some members here, but it is in fact quit small when looking at the other European shows. Motorbeurs attracts about 100K visitors but EICMA attracts 400K visitors. But EICMA it's not only motorcycles but also bicycles so say half of that visits the motorcycle show. How many vistors does a US show attract on average, maybe that has something to do with it too.


Yea I think the cruiser get their intros at US shows most likely since that is where the market is but I do not follow cruisers much. But I believe the new Duc cruiser is coming out at EICMA too.

I hit the LA California show every couple of years (Long Beach) and just looked up some of the marketing hype they give prospective exhibitors and the show bosses claim the attendance in about 50K.

Not sure where Dual Sports fit in the US market but Advrider.com is a big site and where I get most my info on the breed. Trying to get a bike which can do it all is the challenge and most of the Adv bikes are too fat in my mind.

I really liked the new 1200 Multistrada but I could imagine a lot of painful plastic fixes if you ever did any real exploring on it. I will be sticking with my KLR for a while but if Honda delivers I will take a look but really want to examine the VFR1200TTTTTTT if there is such a critter.

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 19 October 2010 - 03:30 PM, said:

But I believe the new Duc cruiser is coming out at EICMA too.


The Diavel? Although there are a few pics allready floating on the net it will have it's first official appearance at EICMA in Milan, after all it's an Italian bike.

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Latetst drawing of the Honda crossover.

According to MCN (More Crap then News), it's not designed to go off road. See here. But then say it will be on/off road here. :huh:

[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 20 October 2010 - 03:22 AM, said:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 19 October 2010 - 03:30 PM, said:

But I believe the new Duc cruiser is coming out at EICMA too.


The Diavel? Although there are a few pics allready floating on the net it will have it's first official appearance at EICMA in Milan, after all it's an Italian bike.

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Harley? V-Max? Duc? What?

[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 20 October 2010 - 03:22 AM, said:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 19 October 2010 - 03:30 PM, said:

But I believe the new Duc cruiser is coming out at EICMA too.


The Diavel? Although there are a few pics allready floating on the net it will have it's first official appearance at EICMA in Milan, after all it's an Italian bike.

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Latetst drawing of the Honda crossover.


Yea that is the one! If I lived in FL I would have that!

What do you think boys?

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After the Varadero/Vibradero,
looks like we are now getting a Viagradero....... :biggrin:


Nope, it is not VFRD worthy...

Honda has some serious issues. I'm just not picking up what they are putting down lately. Never been very brand loyal though. I am warming up to the adventure touring bikes as a very practicle everyday bike and travel mate. Non of these are off road bikes.

I would put this bike in the H3 category of offroad vehicles...yes it may have the right parts, but it is designed to make a yuppy feel like they COULD go offroad, if only they weren't too busy with their green initiatives and alternative lifestyle picketing.

[image: View Post]Tightwad, on 20 October 2010 - 04:31 PM, said:

I would put this bike in the H3 category of offroad vehicles...yes it may have the right parts, but it is designed to make a yuppy feel like they COULD go offroad, if only they weren't too busy with their green initiatives and alternative lifestyle picketing.


I'd really be surprised if anyone who bought one of these things really expected to go off-road Dakar style ... but I grant you there's numb-skulls out there who might tho! :mellow:

But anyway, mates of mine who've owned these Dual Sports things (BMWs, KTMs, Ducs, Hondas, Trumpys) love 'em because of the many crap (and I mean crap) roads that we have in Oz that have now become available to them for touring. I want one so I can go with!

More pictures of the new 800 Triumph. This is the XC or 21 inch front wheel version.

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I think both, Honda and triple, bikes are being "introduced" at the Novemeber show.

[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 19 October 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 19 October 2010 - 10:24 AM, said:

While we have bike shows here in the US not sure we really have new bike world introductions at our US shows.

I think the Fury had it's world debut at a US show and surely HD will show off it's new colours first at a US bike show, or not? :happy:
From what I read dual sports are not very popular in The States, here a dual sport is the best selling bike (BMW 1200 GS). Also cruisers are not as popular here as they are in the US but I don't know if the jap cruisers manufactuurers let their cruisers EICMA The US is a totally different market. I guess the best selling bike in the US is a cruiser, here a HD is always high up on the lop ten list of most sold bikes but it's just one model, all teh others are dual sport and sport bikes.

I've never been to EICMA, would sure like to go check it out sometime. The show I did a write up on here on VFRD was considered quite large by some members here, but it is in fact quit small when looking at the other European shows. Motorbeurs attracts about 100K visitors but EICMA attracts 400K visitors. But EICMA it's not only motorcycles but also bicycles so say half of that visits the motorcycle show. How many vistors does a US show attract on average, maybe that has something to do with it too.

I used to go to the European shows every year. A (late) friend ran a motorcycle forum for many years and had managed to convince people that he was therefore a "publisher"... :biggrin: (RIP, Dave.) As a result, I had business cards and free admittance on Press Day. Which usually meant running around to each stand as fast as possible before the press packs ran out... It was fun at the time, but eventually got a bit old--especially as I became less interested in buying new bikes.

EICMA, aka the Milan show, used to alternate with INTERMOT, aka the Cologne (later Munich) show, as the "premier" motorcycle-related show in Europe. Most new bikes were introduced to the press and public at these one of these two shows. To a much lesser extent, the motorcycle shows in Tokyo, Paris, Bologna and the NEC (in the UK) would sometimes be used for that purpose--maybe for one additional model.

I suppose Harley might introduce its "new" models at one of the US shows...but I've never noticed!

Ciao,

[image: View Post]JZH, on 22 October 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

I suppose Harley might introduce its "new" models at one of the US shows...but I've never noticed!

Ciao,



Yeah, I believe the latest and greatest is "SuperLow"............... low profile tyres...

About the only Harley I ever followed re the intros was the "Buell Ulysses" which is sort of the same genre as the "possible" 800 Honda V4 adv bike, the old and new Multistradas, Tigers, the big KTMs and the GS machines. I did like riding the ULY even if it did shake a bit at idle...ok a lot. One of these days I might be looking a regular Harley but I have a Wing for now.

Every thing about the ULY was high tech except for ...........well you know.

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[image: View Post]TexOz, on 20 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

I'd really be surprised if anyone who bought one of these things really expected to go off-road Dakar style ... but I grant you there's numb-skulls out there who might tho! :mellow:

But anyway, mates of mine who've owned these Dual Sports things (BMWs, KTMs, Ducs, Hondas, Trumpys) love 'em because of the many crap (and I mean crap) roads that we have in Oz that have now become available to them for touring. I want one so I can go with!


That's why I like them. Good for touring in potholed parts of the world. The crap roads are in my very neighborhood, too; that long travel suspension is good just riding around town for my regular routine. And I don't think there's a twisty road with smooth pavement, within 200 miles of my house, but a bike like this makes bumpy twisties fun.

Sure, for true offroad, you need a lighter machine. But for the 200 miles of straight bumpy roads between here and where the world gets interesting, the larger machine is nicer. And I'd rather have this, than a smaller dirtbike and a trailer. I hate trailering.

Ditto...I am not against trailering/pick up but prefer to take the bike if the situation allows. These kind of bikes give you some flexibility. :cheerleader:

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 20 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

But anyway, mates of mine who've owned these Dual Sports things (BMWs, KTMs, Ducs, Hondas, Trumpys) love 'em because of the many crap (and I mean crap) roads that we have in Oz that have now become available to them for touring. I want one so I can go with!

Here the off road tracks are better than most paved roads because of the amount of speed bumps in the urban area's. Maybe that's why dual sports & SUVs are doing so well :happy:

[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

What's up with every new adventure bike having a duck bill (e.g., Multi, VFR1200ST, etc.)? How about an original design?

Blame it all on "DR BIG"!!......
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....Suzuki, that is......, the first "Duckbill" of this type.
Have you guys forgotten this"beauty"?? :happy:

Beck
95 VFR

[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

What's up with every new adventure bike having a duck bill (e.g., Multi, VFR1200ST, etc.)? How about an original design?


While I reckon looks aren't necessarily important in this category - I'm hoping the new Honda DS will look more like this :wink:

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[image: View Post]Beck, on 23 October 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

What's up with every new adventure bike having a duck bill (e.g., Multi, VFR1200ST, etc.)? How about an original design?

Blame it all on "DR BIG"!!......
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....Suzuki, that is......, the first "Duckbill" of this type.
Have you guys forgotten this"beauty"?? :happy:

Beck
95 VFR


Looks kinda cool!

[image: View Post]Beck, on 23 October 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

[image: View Post]jaimev34, on 18 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

What's up with every new adventure bike having a duck bill (e.g., Multi, VFR1200ST, etc.)? How about an original design?

Blame it all on "DR BIG"!!......
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....Suzuki, that is......, the first "Duckbill" of this type.
Have you guys forgotten this"beauty"?? :happy:

Beck
95 VFR




Nope, saw one this summer....... it was kinda rusted, but good to see they still exist.....

Getting closer maybe...............................to the real deal or what is realeased.

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I'm seeing a VFR800 motor and frame in that sketch.

I dunno, but a V4 on an Adventure bike chassis do not seem to compute too well as many already think that the BMW GS is "overmotored" as it is with it's big twin. What benefit will a heavy V4 provide on this chassis? I'd rather see Honda do something with the big V-twin that was on the RC51/VTR1000.and put that on an adventure bike chassis. This "SUV/Crossover" concept for a bike just sounds gooffier the more I think about it.

Beck
95 VFR.

[image: View Post]phobe, on 27 October 2010 - 04:16 PM, said:

I'm seeing a VFR800 motor and frame in that sketch.


Yep, makes sense that Honda would try to use as much existing VTEC parts as possible. If that sketch is from them, I'm guessing this bike is just going to be a adventurized sixth gen. WEIRD.

It seems to me that this bike will be aimed more at the Triumph Tiger and V-strom type of bike, not the more off road GS series. If that picture is anything to go off, it looks like a more comfortable and versatile update on the VFR800.

[image: View Post]kostritzer, on 27 October 2010 - 05:11 PM, said:

It seems to me that this bike will be aimed more at the Triumph Tiger and V-strom type of bike, not the more off road GS series. If that picture is anything to go off, it looks like a more comfortable and versatile update on the VFR800.


Yep - and that's right in my wheelhouse! Of course, we'll probably never see it here in The States, but...

More conjecture from Visordown.com

"It's anticipated the new machine will mimic the styling cues set by the VFR1200F, Fireblade and CBR250R, revealed earlier today on Visordown.

Expect the new Honda to use a smaller, 800cc version of the VFR1200's engine, along with dual purpose styling, traction control and engine mapping."

Smaller Version of the 1200??????????????????????????? instead of retooled/remapped/reVtec of the 6th Gen motor...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 28 October 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

More conjecture from Visordown.com

"It's anticipated the new machine will mimic the styling cues set by the VFR1200F, Fireblade and CBR250R, revealed earlier today on Visordown.

Expect the new Honda to use a smaller, 800cc version of the VFR1200's engine, along with dual purpose styling, traction control and engine mapping."

Smaller Version of the 1200??????????????????????????? instead of retooled/remapped/reVtec of the 6th Gen motor...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Judging by the pic, I highly doubt they're not going to use some version(if not the exact same motor) of the 6th gen motor. It ain't broke, its paid for, so why fix it?

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[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 28 October 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

More conjecture from Visordown.com

"It's anticipated the new machine will mimic the styling cues set by the VFR1200F, Fireblade and CBR250R, revealed earlier today on Visordown.

Expect the new Honda to use a smaller, 800cc version of the VFR1200's engine, along with dual purpose styling, traction control and engine mapping."

Smaller Version of the 1200??????????????????????????? instead of retooled/remapped/reVtec of the 6th Gen motor...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Judging by the pic, I highly doubt they're not going to use some version(if not the exact same motor) of the 6th gen motor. It ain't broke, its paid for, so why fix it?


That was my gut feeling too but but but ...we will see in 4 days or so.

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 27 October 2010 - 01:26 PM, said:

Getting closer maybe...............................to the real deal or what is realeased.

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Ok, in all fairness, this looks way better than the cheesy photochop that was posted earlier. :fing02:

I am beginning to think that this potential VFRD worthy craft may be a lower power competitor to this.

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And I really enjoyed riding the new Strada. For me,100 horses is about right/enough but then again I have not ridden a 1200 VFR.

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 18 October 2010 - 05:55 PM, said:

And to answer your question - okay it's not an interceptor but I think it should qualify you for VFRD membership - it's a honda V4 after all!


Can we now assume that if our fearless leader, the Grand Pooh-bah, His Majesty, Sir Hispanic Slammer has featured one of the mock shots of the new Honda V4 adventure-styled bike on our Home Page that yes the new bike will be VFRD worthy? :happy:

105-115 horses are enough for me, especially if it's lighter than the 6th gen Viffer. If it comes to the states, I will be an early adopter on this one. Hell, it's what I've been trying to do to my VFR since I got it: Helibars, Lower pegs, etc...

I don't care about going off-road, just want to be able to cruise in comfort the 400 miles to decent twisties and then still enjoy said twisties. Be great if I could do it with a V4!

And I hope it's VFRD worthy....I like it around here :fing02:

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 28 October 2010 - 05:11 PM, said:

[image: View Post]TexOz, on 18 October 2010 - 05:55 PM, said:

And to answer your question - okay it's not an interceptor but I think it should qualify you for VFRD membership - it's a honda V4 after all!


Can we now assume that if our fearless leader, the Grand Pooh-bah, His Majesty, Sir Hispanic Slammer has featured one of the mock shots of the new Honda V4 adventure-styled bike on our Home Page that yes the new bike will be VFRD worthy? :happy:


When the darn thing is uncovered next week.....maybe we need a poll???

Now how do you do a poll?

My thinking at this point to my original question is - Yes this critter is VFRD worthy and maybe we will add the VFR1200T to the mix tooooooooooooooooooooo :cheerleader:

[image: View Post]creggur, on 28 October 2010 - 06:12 PM, said:

105-115 horses are enough for me, especially if it's lighter than the 6th gen Viffer. If it comes to the states, I will be an early adopter on this one. Hell, it's what I've been trying to do to my VFR since I got it: Helibars, Lower pegs, etc...

I don't care about going off-road, just want to be able to cruise in comfort the 400 miles to decent twisties and then still enjoy said twisties. Be great if I could do it with a V4!

And I hope it's VFRD worthy....I like it around here :fing02:


I would like some rough and dirt (in a pinch) road capability too. But I do not want to put crash bars on ....like my KLR.

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 28 October 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

I would like some rough and dirt (in a pinch) road capability too. But I do not want to put crash bars on ....like my KLR.


Wish I wasn't so smitten with Honda reliability and scared of European bikes reputation of lack of reliability... Ducati Multistrada or Triumph Tiger 1050 would be on the short list...

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 28 October 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

More conjecture from Visordown.com

"It's anticipated the new machine will mimic the styling cues set by the VFR1200F, Fireblade and CBR250R, revealed earlier today on Visordown.

Expect the new Honda to use a smaller, 800cc version of the VFR1200's engine, along with dual purpose styling, traction control and engine mapping."

Smaller Version of the 1200??????????????????????????? instead of retooled/remapped/reVtec of the 6th Gen motor...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Not a chance. That's a VFR800 motor and frame. Look at it!

I liked the Honda sketch better.....three days to go!

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[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 28 October 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

More conjecture from Visordown.com

"It's anticipated the new machine will mimic the styling cues set by the VFR1200F, Fireblade and CBR250R, revealed earlier today on Visordown.

Expect the new Honda to use a smaller, 800cc version of the VFR1200's engine, along with dual purpose styling, traction control and engine mapping."

Smaller Version of the 1200??????????????????????????? instead of retooled/remapped/reVtec of the 6th Gen motor...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Not a chance. That's a VFR800 motor and frame. Look at it!


In the press blurbs during the release of the VFR1200 it was stated that the new motor was lighter than the 800cc unit it replaced. It is shorter back to front as well. It doesn't have the wacky VTEC valve adjustment procedure. Hey sounds like a winner to me. Maybe they found a way to drop a few more pounds going down to an 800. Wouldn't that be nice...

Brian

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 28 October 2010 - 03:01 PM, said:

I am beginning to think that this potential VFRD worthy craft may be a lower power competitor to this.

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And I really enjoyed riding the new Strada. For me,100 horses is about right/enough but then again I have not ridden a 1200 VFR.

Man that thing is sexy....

But this Honda concept is looking good too...can't wait to see what comes out.

Here is a pic from EICMA showing a pic of the veefalo engined cross tourer concept bike:
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And the CBR600F is back, I like it :fing02: :
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There is also a pic of another concept bike but I can't reach the link right now and will try again later. It is however a scooter similar to the Silverwing.

Thanks ...keep it coming.

Here is the other concept bike:
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All bikes will be unveiled tomorrow, should be live on the internet (video)

Not Hondas but sure are nice bikes: RSV4 Tuono & MV F3
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And the nominees for "best pillion seat 2011" are............................

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[image: View Post]V4 Rosso, on 01 November 2010 - 11:36 AM, said:

Here is a pic from EICMA showing a pic of the veefalo engined cross tourer concept bike:
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Is that the 1200 version??? Hell for leather has the same picture and they say

"This is the model Honda’s been teasing with all those sketches of a mid-capacity “crossover.” The Honda Crosstourer Concept uses a smaller version of Shamu’s 1200cc V4, shaft drive and Honda says it’s been designed to offer the performance of a naked bike with the comfort and practicality of an adventure tourer."

So maybe we are back to the new smaller 800?????

Note the wire wheels...maybe it will come in 17 and 19 inch wheel versions like the new 800 Triumph.

Gotta love this speculation stuff. :cheerleader:

[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 01 November 2010 - 12:24 PM, said:

Is that the 1200 version??? Hell for leather has the same picture and they say

"This is the model Honda’s been teasing with all those sketches of a mid-capacity “crossover.” The Honda Crosstourer Concept uses a smaller version of Shamu’s 1200cc V4, shaft drive and Honda says it’s been designed to offer the performance of a naked bike with the comfort and practicality of an adventure tourer."


From what I understand is that the smaller capacity Honda is the Crossrunner X and the pic above shows the Tourer Concept bike and and Honda mentioned they would reveal a 1200cc concept and I can not imagine the "New Mid Concept" being a 1200. I guess we'll know tomorrow.

Here is a pic of the Crossrunner X stand and it looks just like what was revealed in the drawings.
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[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 01 November 2010 - 12:24 PM, said:

Gotta love this speculation stuff. :cheerleader:

:+1: :laugh:

Do I need?:

A 99 VFR
1800 Wing
KLR

AND a
VFR 800 Crossrunner X

Dutchy, on 01 November 2010 - 12:10 PM, said: And the nominees for "best pillion seat 2011" are............................ They only provide a seat for woman like this

And finally here it is: the VFR800 Crossrunner:
It is based on the VFR VTEC and is fitted with Combined ABS.

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The Cross Tourer will get the Veefalo DCT engine, not much info on the "Mid Range" concept except that it will have a dual clutch transmission, maybe it is replacing the DN-01.

Other news from Honda is the CBR600F as shown above, the 25HP CBR250R, The Hornet and CB1000R are slightly narrower in the tail to mimic MotoGP style and have new headlights, Hornet now also has a digital dash.
Also there are two more scooters, the TW-T600 that has a 51HP two cilinder engine, and the 27HP SH300i that comes with ABS as standard.

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CBR250R

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CBR600F

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Cross Tourer (look at the text on the slide in the background of the second picture. May be an indication this bike is not coming to the US).

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Hornet

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CB1000R

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Mid Range

It looks like Honda has been busy.

More pics of the 800cc cross runner.

Can't say I'm a huge fan of the looks - maybe it'll grow on me :mellow:

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[image: View Post]E-Ticket, on 24 November 2010 - 04:13 AM, said:

LOL! Did Didit or Axel tell you about the bugs on mine? Was that it? Shoot ... I'll go wash it right now. :^)

- ET



Real motorcyclists have no fear of fly-ing



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[image: View Post]Dutchy, on 24 November 2010 - 01:30 PM, said:

[image: View Post]E-Ticket, on 24 November 2010 - 04:13 AM, said:

LOL! Did Didit or Axel tell you about the bugs on mine? Was that it? Shoot ... I'll go wash it right now. :^)

- ET

Real motorcyclists have no fear of fly-ing

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That's what I keep telling the bugs. But they refuse to get out of the way. So .... SPLAT.

Even though the decision's already been made, I still say it doesn't belong here. It's not a VFR or an Interceptor, so no. Sorry :biggrin: .

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[image: View Post]Dutchy, on 30 November 2010 - 06:38 PM, said:

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Oh, I cannot *wait* to see what kind of nightmare I am going to have after that image. <g>

This thread will it ever die, I mean its the only thread in the cross runner forum it seems. The question has indeed been answered!

[image: View Post]HispanicSlammer, on 30 November 2010 - 08:52 PM, said:

This thread will it ever die, I mean its the only thread in the cross runner forum it seems. The question has indeed been answered!

And just to be mean ..... BUMP. :^)