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VF1000F mutant copy allowed?

25 posts Started 9 May 2012 Last recovered post 8 Jul 2014 Wayback Machine snapshot 24 Sep 2017

#1

Hi , I'm Wolfgang from Germany and I'm a new member. First of all I'd like to say that I'm sorry about my bad English (well... school's out for a long time...) but I hope my grammar isn't as bad as you might not understand what I want to know / like to say. You guys - YES, I've read many of your VF1000F/R topics for the last weeks and months so I think there are many specialists around here as their names are e.g. Jamie, Thomas, Sebastian, Kelly and Larry (just to name a few; sorry to those I've forgotten) - are doing fantastic work and there are many handy hints and many good informations for me as a VF1000F newbie... time to thank you all!

Afterwards I don't know how I detected the earlier VFRs topics but what I still recall is that I found some pictures of a modified VF1000F with RC51 fork/bottom triple/front brake discs front calipers/front wheel and the guy - Tom - had posted a new topic to request which color he should paint the front fender... man, real CF made by Tyga is the choice and the bike seems a dream to me!

I think that was the moment I've internally decided to rebuild a bike EXACTLY like this one and so I like to ask - don't laugh about that! - if it is 'allowed' to rebuild a VF1000F mutant? :-)

By the way I appreciate handy hints further on so I hope you guys may help me with some details to solve some problems I will encounter [don't know how to express myself, sorry].

The 'mutant copy project' has just started as I've bought an old SC15 (already disassembled), RC51 parts as listed above, LSL 929 top triple (btw. LSL is a german company :-) and superbike bar, SC33 rear wheel + 520 sprocket + brake disks, VF1000R swing arm, caliper hanger and torque arm and - I hope it will work: - a Hornet 600 tachometer sensor.

What I have to buy/order next is the Nissin rear caliper (of a 2000/2001 TZ250, am I right?), a longer (+1/2") rear shock (I ogle with an adjusable Wilbers 641) and - I like the US VF1000F with "HONDA" on the tank! - a decal set (talked to a varnisher today who did a lot of Ferraris, AC Cobras and Lambos the last thirty years... other stuff than my Volkswagen Golf, uh!)

I know that SC15's are having some oiling problems with the camshaft so I like to do the Tony Donisi oil modification like Tom did. So my first question is where I exactly have to drill and hole for the -4AN 90° adapter. Is it the 'flat spot' near the second 'bottom' screw from the right which holds the right engine cover?

Second question is about the clutch release bracket. Tom, as you wrote you got the bracket from winning-run.com.. do you know if they are still offering it? I've talked to a metalworking colleague at the company I'm working for and he told me it would be no problem to make some copies... but first I need an original part so I have to BUY one.

Any hints?

Thanks in advance to y'all

Wolfgang

P.S.: I will post some pictures as possible (just to let you know: I'm rebuilding my (sorry:) ZX11, building a (sorry again:) 'superlightweight' ZX13 (- 80 kg) and a VF750F Freddie Spencer AMA replica at the same time... ;-\)

#2

Sounds like you have quite a lot going on!

Can't help you on your two questions, but someone else might be able to.

#3

Herzlich Wilkommen Wolfgang, auch als Kawi-besitzer... :-)

I have been trying to get Tom to send me one of his brackets for years, so I can copy it. I think it would be very simple to remake.

The answer to your first question can be found in my 750 thread, I put pictures in there showing how I did my oil mod and they also show where to drill.

Please do share some pics with us ASAP!!

#4

Do you have a picture of this bracket?

#5

Welcome, you have an ambitious project ahead. No worries on copying Tom's "Big F" project imho, it's an incredible looking bike. His 1KR is the "mutant" which is even more impressive.

http://www.vfrdiscus...120#entry532136

Here's a pic of the 1000R oil mod, should be the same for the 1KF.

http://www.vfrdiscus..._60#entry520216

http://www.vfrdiscus..._90#entry521942

This is the Japanese company that sold the clutch bracket but it appears to be off the site now. I don't read Japanese so I can't be sure. Email or call them and see if they can produce another?

http://www.winning-run.com/

I used the CBR900RR rear caliper with the 900 wheel in the 1KR swingarm, similar to what Tom did. There are a lot of details of my bike, Tom's, Kel's and some others mixed in the thread listed above.

Good luck and we do appreciate pics!

#6
YoshiHNS

Do you have a picture of this bracket?

I think this is it..

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#7

The Japanese have been copying German engineering for years, so a German copying something Japanese will be ok.............. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

#8
vfrcapn

This is the Japanese company that sold the clutch bracket but it appears to be off the site now. I don't read Japanese so I can't be sure. Email or call them and see if they can produce another?

http://www.winning-run.com/

Google Translate Link. Seems you're going to have to email to get any actual information.

#9

Sorry I haven`t replied previously, been busy with another hobby, vintage(?) audio, since I am so at risk to lose my license.

Wolfgang, use/do/ask whatever you wish. Glad to help if I can. And thanks!

Hold off on buying a bracket from Winning Run just yet. :ph34r:

#10
VF1000RS

Hold off on buying a bracket from Winning Run just yet. :ph34r:

Going to need details on this!

#11

Details forthcoming, it's a collaboration. :smile:

#13

Hi y'all.. after a long time, I'm back again. The old lady VFKF is running again since four weeks or so and I'm quite happy. Very special thanks to Tom for the inspiration! Whoever asks about all the mods, I used to reply 'Well that's not my idea - it was a guy named Tom from the VFR forum' - I think it's okay to stick to the truth.

Surely you all will recognize that its not a 100% copy of Toms VFKF project - you're right - so I did some /other/ mods. If there are any questions, please feel free to contact me. This week I hope to take the time to add some more pictures.

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#15

How much TUV paperwork do you have to carry with you? :goofy:

#16

It looks awesome, Wolf. Nicely done!

#18

Very nice! Where did you get the speedo gear drive?

#19

@vfrcapn: speedo gear drive is of a 2002 CB600F Hornet PC34, found in the bay for a handful of bucks

@Dutchy: good question :wink: ... to my surprise, only two - no need to buy a saddle bag for them! :cool:

@The Phantom, tomk1960, Veefer800Canuck: Thanks guys!

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#21

Wow! I thought it was a picture of my bike for a second! When you said you wanted to copy it you really meant it. That looks like it was very well done. Even down to some of the details like the gold painted clutch slave cylinder, speedo drive, rear mini caliper and master cylinder.


Sprocket bolts even?

What exhaust headers did you use? They look very interesting.

#22
Wolf82431

Hi y'all.. after a long time, I'm back again. The old lady VFKF is running again since four weeks or so and I'm quite happy. Very special thanks to Tom for the inspiration! Whoever asks about all the mods, I used to reply 'Well that's not my idea - it was a guy named Tom from the VFR forum' - I think it's okay to stick to the truth.

Surely you all will recognize that its not a 100% copy of Toms VFKF project - you're right - so I did some /other/ mods. If there are any questions, please feel free to contact me. This week I hope to take the time to add some more pictures.

WOW...gorgeous, excellent job.

What exhaust did you use or is it a remake of a V4 header from the past? Basani?

#23

Tom, nice to hear from you again:) You know you are to blame for this copy! :) The rebuild has taken much more longer as I've planned before - but so what. To be exact, the bike isn't finished yet as there are some parts so change: 1st bolster up the rear seat (I like the way you choosed as is looks like a 'straight line' from the rear fairing to the rear seat) & new seat cover in dark blue - 2nd Changing the mirrors. I installed those EC-prooved parts for the TUV approval but I see nothing but my elbows :unsure: . I've allready the hinged [?] bar end mirror that you've installed but I will think about another solution with something like a bajonet connector & spring - hm, well.. - 3rd I did research for a used exhaust header like Sudco/Hindle or Devil for nearly two months - - - NO WAY :wacko: So I decided to get into contact to an exhaust specialist named Hermann Haslauer http://www.rs-haslauer.de/bildergalerie.php who did the stainless steel header for me. I'm very pleased about his work (he strived [is that the right word?] for similar lengths for all four single headers) but I like to enlarge the 2-1 piece for another 6 cm so that the muffler will be arranged a little bit higher and little bit rearer and - pleasing for the eye - the muffler hanger shows a 90° angle to the muffler. Call me a fool if you want :happy:

Nope, sprocket bolts are not painted. Hey... would you really paint titanium bolts?!?! :wink:

Master front & cluch cylinders are new Nissin radial parts. Overkill? For the clutch definitely yes but the front brake is perfect for one finger braking. :happy:

I will try to catch some time the following days to post pictures that show some differences to your original VFKF.

Some photos Hermann did at his shop before I took the bike back home:

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#24

@CornerCarver: Thanks so much :) About the headers pls. see above - sorry but I didn't heard about Basani before :unsure:

The muffler is of a '04/'05 ZX10R but shortened for about 6 cm due to a canister damage that needed to be cut out :wink:

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