2014 Vfr Poll

Let you voice be heard... 

mpg is too poor for a modern 800cc bike.

Yes, even though it is a compromise and does not improve enough I would absolutely consider this bike as an addition to my (currently) 9 V4 Hondas in my garage.

Just like I considered several Hondas to replace my wifes' 10 year Odyssey before deciding to purchase a new Tundra...

I am assuming the survey means new from a dealer? Well, then no.  - Its a maybe in the future thing, I would never drop 12k on a bike. A few years used and low miles? Well, just maybe. But if I still have my 5th gen? Nope. 

But I am still at ----- a VFR 700/750/800/848 must be in my garage forever, whatever model it may be. I have to support that habit. 

mpg is too poor for a modern 800cc bike.

how do you know?  did I miss the road test?

I would consider purchasing just about any bike on this earth.

Even though it is not exactly what I would want, this bike is closer to what I like compared to the VFR1200F, and I would probably choose to buy this bike. 

I was considering an upgrade (in a couple years) to a newer 2009 ABS model 6th gen before this announcement.  I think I would get this "8th gen" VFR800F instead of upgrading my 6th gen.  It basically offers me everything I would need, and the V4 sound that I love.

Of course, this all depends on whether they actually choose to sell it over here or not.  And pricing.  I remain cautiously optimistic.
 

I never buy new. Would I own one, yes.

As I've looked at this post more, I've realized that when I voted I was thinking "off the showroom floor" rather than "used".  Now looking at a number of the posts, it's obvious there are various thoughts on that.   My guess is that from Honda's perspective, all that matters is the former. 

Had they made it a liter bike, and kept the rest of it similiar, yes I would buy new.

After two years with the '06, I still love the bike, but I crave for more power.

 As long as I can have a running 5th gen absolutely not. When I can't do that anymore hopefully Honda will have a bike that's an actual improvement. If not I'll be looking to another brand.

If anything ever happened to my 6th gen I would look at the a new one without hesitation.   There are enough small improvements to warrant consideration.    

Only if it comes in Silver!

Only if it comes in Silver!

... Krylon to the rescue!

I personally think silver would clash with the many champagne colored accents.  Red looks classy ... just like the majority of the 4th & 5th gen VFRs.  Anything but faded yellow.

What street rider wouldn't even consider buying a new VFR???  It's not like this poll commits you.

Perhaps there are many subtleties in the new VFR that people just don't see, that won't be appreciated by reading a spec sheet online.  Honda is clearly adding a lot of value to the street rider while keeping the VFR far removed from the track machine that some old timers still want it to be.

Let me tell you why I would seriously consider replacing my current VFR750 for a new 8th gen VFR (yeah, that's right, I ride a 750.  With the mods I've made to my machine, I haven't been tempted to replace it by ANY motorcycle, including the later VFR800s, until now):

1) No question this one will outperform all prior 700-800cc VFR generations out of the box -- not in shocking power, but all the other ways that impact real world riding experience.

2) LED lighting might be a rather significant improvement.  Up here in the great white north, days are short during the wet riding season.

3) How about those new brakes, not linked, ABS standard! That's better than we've seen in a long time from Honda.

4) It'll be a durable beast.  While the usual whiners are complaining about the VFR not offering >150hp and at least a liter displacement, I LOVE the all-day driveability of the 800.  There's nothing stopping the racers from modifying to their hearts' content or buying the VFR1200.  Re-using the 6th generation VFR800 parts that worked well is a recipe for success, not a point to complain about. I prefer reliability over peak HP bragging rights, and solid components to fragile look-fast bits.

5) Check out all the great suspension mods & ergonomic tweaks Honda finally implemented!  Heated grips! It will be easier than ever to dial in the VFR without tearing down shocks and replacing springs!

6) The bodywork is classy and understated, while being much more attractive than Shamu.  The new VFR800 reminds me of a nice mixture of the classic 5th generation VFR with a little bit of Ducati 900 thrown in -- a rather clean, complete fairing.  Honda finally got around to providing a handsome, sleek machine for the understated mature rider. *LOVE* the new wheel design, too.  To those who keep saying it's "boring", I think it's up to the individual owner to tack on all the "look at me" accessories he wants.  Most of those "cutting edge" designs age rather quickly, and I like to ride my bikes for a decade or more.

7) Exhaust goes back to a simpler, lighter design that's easier/cheaper to replace.  But since the chassis carries over much from the prior gen, it should be very easy for aftermarket companies to offer underseat exhaust to those who like a hot bum.  Best of both worlds!

8) finally: Honda ought to have learned its lesson after the horrible sales of the VFR1200.  One can be sure that the new VFR will be priced more aggressively.  I am optimistic that for most riders who don't haul a passenger regularly, the new VFR800F will be a superb value.  It's not like there are that many well-built middleweight V4 bikes to choose from, and this is the only one of the last 15 years that tempts me at all.

http://www.motorbeur...n/Bezoeker.aspx

I will take plenty pictures...............

i sure wouldn't. the main thing that drew me to the vfr in the first place was the sleek under tail exhaust.

If i were to buy something in the next year or two, I'd be much more likely to get the R1 w higher bars n a smaller rear sprocket for touring.

this really does NOT excite me. 

don't  forget  about  the  endless  supplies  of  6th Gens.

i sure wouldn't. the main thing that drew me to the vfr in the first place was the sleek under tail exhaust.

If i were to buy something in the next year or two, I'd be much more likely to get the R1 w higher bars n a smaller rear sprocket for touring.

this really does NOT excite me. 

If it proves a simple as it looks, Honda have not changed the frame and anyone could bolt a 6G rear subframe onto the 8G and install an undertail exhaust.

All it would cost is the new alloy rear subframe and the ability to have frameless pannier attachments. Not a price that I would pay.

I would prefer an under engine exhaust to that even though the under tail exhaust does look very nice.

13 large is a hefty ammount.

my 2013 Ford Fiesta was less than that.

13 large is a hefty ammount.

my 2013 Ford Fiesta was less than that.

Similar horse power numbers or is the Fiesta (that's a fun name isn't it) more powerful?

Who will be the first?

Whoever it is, they'll pretty much get the celebrity treatment around here...  :cool:

Can you tell me where the change in suspension is , I don't see it, looks to be the same, preload only on the front, and preload and rebound on the rear (no change).

The seat does look like they might have taken out a couple hard lines in the crotch area from the picture. The seat is my biggest gripe on the 6th gen, everything else is usable. I can tell that new bike Id run the seat on the tallest setting, for max seat to peg.

The 6th gen under tail, is pretty insulated compared to other under tailed bikes , Like r1's and fz 6, puts a lot of heat on the A$$, the vfr can get warm , but others get real nasty. With side mounted pipe, atleast there is some benefit to the crotch and A$$ heat wise, even though I do like the under tailed  look.

Over all though the bike does look okay, and heated grips sounds nice unless you have to also get traction control to get it, which I suspect is the case. I think my 06 has a very nice illumination display set up , especially at night. That area I don't really see an improvement looks more like they switched to something cheaper.

So bottom line would I buy the 800 or the 1200, if that were the only choice ?    I would go with the 800, as its more usable for what I do

What street rider wouldn't even consider buying a new VFR???  It's not like this poll commits you.

Perhaps there are many subtleties in the new VFR that people just don't see, that won't be appreciated by reading a spec sheet online.  Honda is clearly adding a lot of value to the street rider while keeping the VFR far removed from the track machine that some old timers still want it to be.

Let me tell you why I would seriously consider replacing my current VFR750 for a new 8th gen VFR (yeah, that's right, I ride a 750.  With the mods I've made to my machine, I haven't been tempted to replace it by ANY motorcycle, including the later VFR800s, until now):

1) No question this one will outperform all prior 700-800cc VFR generations out of the box -- not in shocking power, but all the other ways that impact real world riding experience.

2) LED lighting might be a rather significant improvement.  Up here in the great white north, days are short during the wet riding season.

3) How about those new brakes, not linked, ABS standard! That's better than we've seen in a long time from Honda.

4) It'll be a durable beast.  While the usual whiners are complaining about the VFR not offering >150hp and at least a liter displacement, I LOVE the all-day driveability of the 800.  There's nothing stopping the racers from modifying to their hearts' content or buying the VFR1200.  Re-using the 6th generation VFR800 parts that worked well is a recipe for success, not a point to complain about. I prefer reliability over peak HP bragging rights, and solid components to fragile look-fast bits.

5) Check out all the great suspension mods & ergonomic tweaks Honda finally implemented!  Heated grips! It will be easier than ever to dial in the VFR without tearing down shocks and replacing springs!

6) The bodywork is classy and understated, while being much more attractive than Shamu.  The new VFR800 reminds me of a nice mixture of the classic 5th generation VFR with a little bit of Ducati 900 thrown in -- a rather clean, complete fairing.  Honda finally got around to providing a handsome, sleek machine for the understated mature rider. *LOVE* the new wheel design, too.  To those who keep saying it's "boring", I think it's up to the individual owner to tack on all the "look at me" accessories he wants.  Most of those "cutting edge" designs age rather quickly, and I like to ride my bikes for a decade or more.

7) Exhaust goes back to a simpler, lighter design that's easier/cheaper to replace.  But since the chassis carries over much from the prior gen, it should be very easy for aftermarket companies to offer underseat exhaust to those who like a hot bum.  Best of both worlds!

8) finally: Honda ought to have learned its lesson after the horrible sales of the VFR1200.  One can be sure that the new VFR will be priced more aggressively.  I am optimistic that for most riders who don't haul a passenger regularly, the new VFR800F will be a superb value.  It's not like there are that many well-built middleweight V4 bikes to choose from, and this is the only one of the last 15 years that tempts me at all.

Im looking at the specs on the Honda website, its says preload, but no mention of rebound, I don't see a picture there that contradicts the official spec listing.

well, I love TC. I had it on my last bike (a Versys 1000, 3 modes of TC at that) and whilst it never kicked in in summer it was a Godsend riding through a typical British winter so for those of us who intend to use a bike in all weathers and through winter TC is brilliant 

My 07 dynoed at 96hp on the same dyno as my 86

And that means? Until a run-in 8th gen is tested on that dyno not much. Real interest is comparison between the EU/World spec & US spec. Fast Bikes (UK) had their test bike on the dyno @JHS Racing 106bhp @ 10250rpm.   This from Cycleworld test of US spec bike.

This from Motorcycle.com '08 6th gen

I agree.  I want to see what an 8th makes on the same dyno that my 86 ran on

Well, I've seen and sat on the new Interceptor and I really like the look and feel of the new bike but.....

I don't think that it is a big enough leap forward for me to purchase it.

I have never been a fan of the Vtech engine and the traditional front fork probably isn't any better than my resprung and Race Tech valved 5th gen fork.

The bells and whistles would be very nice, just not nice enough for me to purchase a new bike over my "paid for" 1998 VFR.

I'm looking for 120+ horsepower.

Fully adjustable suspension with an inverted front fork.

Go back to gear driven cams and dump the Vtech.

Gp style exhaust, to show off the rear wheel. I would even sacrifice the center stand for this.

So until Honda does a little more, I will continue to ride my 98.

Maybe the next generation. Seems as though I have been saying that for while....

I'm putting finishes on an 8th Gen review of my own which I hope to put out by Monday but for now, my quick 2c:

I had Race Tech valves in my 4th Gen and had it re-sprung for my weight.  The result was rather taut.  The 8th Gen feels comparable, but much more comfortable over stuff like cobblestones.  Go figure.  While I'm a little surprised about the CBR feel, if you want a Cadillac ride, buy an ADV bike.  EDIT:  Yeah, addition of compression damping control would be nice.  Seems daft to allow control of rebound without damping.

If you're looking for 120+ HP look elsewhere.  This bike makes roughly the same power my stock '97 did.  Maybe less on bottom since my mechanic fattened up the fueling on my old bike.  Probably due to emissions strangling.  Mileage is a touch better than the prior VFRs, if you care.  If you really want mileage get an NC700.  But then you'll be here whining about the anemic power.  TANSTAAFL.

Those factory panniers are only good for 26 lbs and max overall load is under 400 lbs so if you imagine yourselves loading it up like a Gold Wing (hence the desire for more power) you might want to re-think your approach.

Sadly I don't think we'll ever see, erm, hear gear driven cams again.  {sniffle}.

I still maintain the VTEC isn't the devil most believe it to be, but it could also be carried out a little better.  Anyway don't just argue with me - look up a torque curve from a '97 if you think I'm crazy.

I'm not a big fan of the big polished exhaust can but with the bags on you can't see it anyway.  A GP exhaust will just blow smoke onto the panniers.

I tend to think the TC is something I'll never use but then I remember my ass sliding out over an untreated road plate last winter.  OK, so maybe it's not a terrible thing after all.  I think some washboard road triggered it the other day, and that could turn out to be a headache.

The appearance is a matter of taste but I can't tell you how much time I've killed in the last week entertaining chats from passers-by who are absolutely enthralled.  It's nucking futs, really.  And the LED headlights make a noticeable improvement in how other motorists treat you. 

Yep, 13K+ is a lot for an 782cc bike that isn't wearing a hoity toity yurpeon badge.  But so far I'm happy with my decision to get it.  Dealer knocked over 1K off MSRP, got me accessories for mail-order prices and is eating the labor on the 600 mile service.  Put down 4K and Big Red financed the rest at 2.99% for 36 months.

Ride on, mofos!

I not only considered buying it, but traded my well-loved '03 for the new one. And yes, it's an incremental improvement, but low RPM throttle response is much improved, the handling is better, the heated grips are a welcome addition and it gets more compliments than any bike I've ever owned, including my three previous VFR's. A friend let me ride his BMW 1000RR and while the added 90 hp is quite evident, the beemer is really a track-day appliance. The one complaint I'd have about the new Interceptor is that the ride is decidely stiffer, but I haven't fiddled the suspension as yet.

Well let's not kid ourselves kids.  The S1000RR is a GREAT all around street bike, just with more power than one could ever use on the street.  A fantastic package.  The rumored upcoming touring model will kick butt and take names.

I am waiting to see if the '14 VFR I bought a couple of days ago picks up any power at all once it's broken in- I suspect, though, with a hundred miles down the road now, that it will continue to be slightly anemic in comparison to my 03.

I'm sure this has to do with emissions and what must be a seriously adjusted fueling curve, because this thing is averaging 10 MPG more than my 03, and I'm not particularly babying it (nor am I bouncing it off the limiter).  This gives hope for improvements down the road from a PC or the like.

Nonetheless it's a sure improvement on the original VTEC.. although leaving still heaps of room for improvement Honda-san.

 Not imo , it lost a ton of adjustability, with fork tube height , clip-ons ect

Its okay if you need a New VFR, but I don't.

Nonetheless it's a sure improvement on the original VTEC.. although leaving still heaps of room for improvement Honda-san.

 Not imo , it lost a ton of adjustability, with fork tube height , clip-ons ect
 
 
Its okay if you need a New VFR, but I don't.

I don't have pogo front suspension, probably you have heavier springs and too light of oil in combo, then you'll have that issue. But full adjustable suspension is nice, which the 8th gen still does not have that in reality. Did you also get compression adjustment?

Luckily I was able to get a usable set up on my 6th gen, but I know that few have achieved that with out sending them off.

what is sad is in north america  the vfr800 only ran 2 years 2014-15.why? is my question .

what is sad is in north america  the vfr800 only ran 2 years 2014-15.why? is my question .

? Maybe priced too high?

http://www.vfrdiscus...r/#entry1033868

Price dropped  ..

This thread is entertaining!  I decided to get back into riding and bought a '14 new for near the same price as my '06.  It's clearly a better bike in every way though the '06 was fine with me.  VTEC is smoother than the '06 but it didn't bother me at all in the '06 leaned over in turns or anyplace else.  My nearly new condition 5th gen. didn't really impress me with anything especially the suspension and electricals.   Only thing I don't like about the '14 is the instrument panel and it's a clusterf..k.    Everybody has an opinion and an..........