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White love...

61 posts Started 16 Oct 2019 Last recovered post 21 Feb 2020 Wayback Machine snapshot 30 Mar 2020

#1

The first owner likes his bikes white, so this one was repainted from new (I heard he did the same on his 6th gen)

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I just might pick this one up eh? :goofy:

#2

You need a garage.😉

#3

I do need a garage...

Maybe I get one today, on our 21st wedding anniversary?     (2 chances of that eh?)

#4

You can always store your SP2 in my garage m8. 

I may even give you a spare key!  :wink:

#5

I like white... Right up until I get stuck in the rain! 

#6

That's why you need this kind of white VFR!

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#7

That Fifth looks great in white.

It's about time you got an example of the best generation Dutchy.

Do it!

#8
Skids, 10/17/2019 at 10:51 AM

That's why you need this kind of white VFR!

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Trust me... if Honda had thought to sell the VFR800X in the US, I would have considered it! I don't know what it costs to bring a specific model of bike to the US, but it can't be that much in comparison to what it costs to develop the bike in the first place!

#9
11 minutes ago, Marvelicious

Trust me... if Honda had thought to sell the VFR800X in the US, I would have considered it! I don't know what it costs to bring a specific model of bike to the US, but it can't be that much in comparison to what it costs to develop the bike in the first place!

:fing02:   :beer:

#10

Got 1st dibs this white 2000 5th gen with 90,000km on her.

Stood idle/outside under a cover for 2 years. and yes, we do get wet and cold winters...

Connected a fresh battery and she fired right up and set in a steady idle.  But then...

Tank lock jammed, no way to open

Front rotors 3.1mm (3.5mm service limits)

Used for commuting the past 8 years: fork lowers, calipers, pistons and bracked corroded to F...

Stanchions pitted looking like spotted dick

Tacho display not working, nor indicators

RHS exhaust heat shield looking like swiss cheese (the exhaust system in perfect nick though)

Rear spindle seized solid

Chain and sprockets rusted beyond salvation

Bike was painted white  (from red) from new, but scraped a wee bit here and there ( as is to be expected)

Rear caliper, rotor and bracket corroded, in fact anything metal was corroded.

Asking Euro 300, I still walked away.

#11

That's a shame, but it sounds like you'd be tearing that thing down to the frame to make it functional. I probably would have bought it and regretted it! 

#12

Offered the guy that if he washes the thing and send me pictures, I will put it up for sale on the Dutch VFR forum for him.  Pretty sure an existing 5th gen owner with sun-bleached plastics will pounce. The white rims are dent/scratch free I think... Unsure what the insie of the tank will look like. But firing up right away (and run for more that 5 minutes w/o a stutter) bodes well.

#13

Decent parts bike though. Be a reasonable project too for 300 euro. 

#14

You want the guy's details?  :goofy:

#15

Thanks but no. The last thing I need is more parts. 

#16

After 2 years outside under a tarp, fresh battery hooked up, one dab on the starter...

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#17

Euro 300

Located in the Netherlands

Contact me if you ewant the seller's details...

As I'm busy with the Gilera and donot want to invest in new brake rotors (3.1mm vs 3.5mm minimum), chain sprockets. Nor the time to clean up the metal parts and brake caliper pistons... LCD dash no worky

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#18

Hmmm....

I don’t fancy a white bike! - especially at that age and with the list of problems!

No offence meant to you, or your bikes....

#19

Hi Chris, no problemo 

"All bikes are white, but some bikes are more white than others"  George Orwell

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(Sorry Skids ...)

I did not buy the 5th gen.

But a pal of mine did. And there is litle that deters him. The tank lock is now open

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No rust inside, just piss colored fuel..😎

#20
1 hour ago, Dutchy

Hi Chris, no problemo 

"All bikes are white, but some bikes are more white than others"  George Orwell

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(Sorry Skids ...)

My first preference would be the Castrol Racing Green version.

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#21

You mean like this one?  :goofy:

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#22

That too  :tongue:

#23

The first part of rebuilding.. Take the bika apart into pieces.. So far so good..

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#24

With that flag in the background, "White love" has another meaning.

#25
22 hours ago, TheDutchy

The first part of rebuilding.. Take the bika apart into pieces.. So far so good..

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I love the plywood tool box.

#26

Jeez what a bargain for EURO 300. It looks in solid condition too.

#27
16 hours ago, Captain 80s

With that flag in the background, "White love" has another meaning.

Now you have me hoping the suspension is not White Power (WP)........    :goofy:

PS: WP is now Austrian KTM owned but was founded in the Netherlands. The springs were white, not because white is better; simply because they could have them coated economically.... Via a company that made hospital beds...  :tongue:

#28

And white is the cheapest paint.

Cool project.

#30

I really should ship that bike over here.  I miss her badly.  Not having her around makes me do crazy things like plan to put V8s in vans.

Just as soon as I figure out where "here" will be... (Muscat, Amsterdam and Zurich have all been possibilities this year.)

Ciao,

JZH

#31

Go Dutch!

#32

Display is working again..

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#33

The bike has been stripped down to the bone… It's engine..

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#34

Starting to put items back on how they should be,.

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#35

Finished today with the bike looking like this..

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#36
Dutchy, 11/20/2019 at 2:17 AM

You mean like this one?  :goofy:

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I think you need a bigger security chain🤔

#37

It serves me well since 1989..... 😎

#38

Rear wheel finished and installed.. Subframe got a new coat of black.

Routed the wirring loom throughout the tail and installed all the electrics..

One question, does the wiring loom on the handlebar controls pass in front or go behind the front fork leg ???

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#39

The trick with the lcd swap withen the cluster did the trick. Allthough the donor bikes cluster was trashed, the lcd was still in good condition. Swapped the LCD's out en presto, the mileage went down from 106,000 kilometers to 29,000 kilometers. I never owned a bike with that a low odo reading.

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#40

The exhaust headers and gave them a new coating, worked on misc. bits and finished the day with the bike looking like this:
 

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#41

Top job!

Bit surprised no 5th gen owner answered your wiring question.....  :angry:

#42
TheDutchy, 2/3/2020 at 11:19 PM

One question, does the wiring loom on the handlebar controls pass in front or go behind the front fork leg ???

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#43
7 minutes ago, RC36B

Same "sewing" as with the VFR 750 🙂 wire looms goes behind - see illustration from the shop manual

Thanks,RC36B my manual wasn't as clear as your pic.. I did install them behind the legs, so I am assured it is good.. 

Also the bands on the cluster / frame stay wiring make sense now.. They are welded upward, like (to me) Honda installed them wrong way around..  You have to fold them down against it's welding position to hold the wiring.. Weird..

#44
1 hour ago, TheDutchy

Thanks,RC36B my manual wasn't as clear as your pic.. I did install them behind the legs, so I am assured it is good.. 

Also the bands on the cluster / frame stay wiring make sense now.. They are welded upward, like (to me) Honda installed them wrong way around..  You have to fold them down against it's welding position to hold the wiring.. Weird..

"Ours not to reason why..."

I guess the wires moves more controlled/predictable with this setup.

Nice project... 🙂 

#45
22 minutes ago, RC36B

"Ours not to reason why..."

I guess the wires moves more controlled/predictable with this setup.

Nice project... 🙂 

Thanks,

The reason why I got puzzled, was that the 2000 onward model has a different top mount and handlebars. The locking bolts are in a different position. The handlebars between the pre 2000 model without HISS and the 2000 onward models with HISS are different, and not exchangeable.  

#46
TheDutchy, 2/1/2020 at 4:52 PM

The bike has been stripped down to the bone… It's engine..

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That is absolutely horrendous. What a labor of love to clean that up.

#47
16 hours ago, TheDutchy

Thanks,

The reason why I got puzzled, was that the 2000 onward model has a different top mount and handlebars. The locking bolts are in a different position. The handlebars between the pre 2000 model without HISS and the 2000 onward models with HISS are different, and not exchangeable.  

And different switch left side (no choke)

#48

Today she breathed air for the first time since the rebuild..

Next.. take care of all the tupperware..

#49
RC36B, ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2020 at 2:07 PM

And different switch left side (no choke)

She got the manual back again.. The throttle housing on the 2000 model looked like a nightmare to revive. Everything is corroded. Also it requires the coolant recirculation, so different waterpipes and thermostat housing..

For know I installed the throttle housiing of the donor bike. So the cable is back.. I saved all the parts to install that back in the near future, but for now it is working..

IIRC the cable isn't realy a choke, it is a fast idle function..

Thanks for your input, it is well received..

#50
13 hours ago, TheDutchy

Also it requires the coolant recirculation, so different waterpipes and thermostat housing

Yeah... the ECU is kind of primitive - the "choke" lever or the later vax-unit is ridiculous. Should have been a servo controlled by the ECU. The ECU already have sensors (coolant temp, crank sensor, MAP etc) to decide on idle. I never understood why Honda chose a solution which didn't use components already there.

The doner engine looks like a nightmare you fished out of the harbour - how did you win the battle getting the engine to look that good?

#51
1 hour ago, RC36B

The doner engine looks like a nightmare you fished out of the harbour - how did you win the battle getting the engine to look that good?

My lips are sealed.......  :goofy:

#52
33 minutes ago, Dutchy

My lips are sealed.......  :goofy:

An accomplice in crime...?  :lurk:

#53

That bad looking came from whitey.. The good looking engine came with the donor..

Don't get me wrong.. My 1000R mill looked worse, and in fact was seized after two years neglecting/non running.. But it came out nice after a full resto..

Full engine resto means another 200 hrs.. The donor saved me a lot of time..

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#54

Nearly there.

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#55

If it doesn't rain tomorrow, it will be playtime..

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#56

Well today was rainy.. So lets spend the day to get the exhaust update to a high mount.. That needs some tubing from the bottom end upwards..

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#57

And.. I want it high uo and following the lines of the rear cowl.. That\s c;lose enough...

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#58

End result..

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#59

Can you remove the rear wheel without dismounting the exhaust pipe?

#60

Yes. There is enough clearance to keep the exhaust in place.

#61
4 hours ago, TheDutchy

Yes. There is enough clearance to keep the exhaust in place.

That’s golden! I hate wrestling with my exhaust to remove the rear wheel. 

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