09 Cbr1000rr Mirrors Retro Fit On Vfr

So, I was looking at a new CBR1000RR, and thinking, dang those blinkers mirrors are nice......real nice. Wish I had those. Then, "why not". Sure the angle is not the same, but the mount profile is very close. Nothing an alum. angle adapter couldn't solve. And hey, I AM a designer with a full machine shop. I looked around, and yes, there are some easier options on eBay, but they don't look great. And....a bonus, the design would look GREAT painted to match since you can take the paint all the way down the stock. So, has anyone tried this yet?? Photos?? Thoughts? Not exactly a cheap experiment.

[image: View Post]Robin the Boy Wonder, on Aug 21 2009, 01:04 PM, said:

So, I was looking at a new CBR1000RR, and thinking, dang those blinkers mirrors are nice......real nice. Wish I had those. Then, "why not". Sure the angle is not the same, but the mount profile is very close. Nothing an alum. angle adapter couldn't solve. And hey, I AM a designer with a full machine shop. I looked around, and yes, there are some easier options on eBay, but they don't look great. And....a bonus, the design would look GREAT painted to match since you can take the paint all the way down the stock. So, has anyone tried this yet?? Photos?? Thoughts? Not exactly a cheap experiment.


Check out Darth Blings mirrors... not hondas but they work.

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...c=43247&hl=


http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...&hl=mirrors

[image: View Post]Whitepine, on Aug 21 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Robin the Boy Wonder, on Aug 21 2009, 01:04 PM, said:

So, I was looking at a new CBR1000RR, and thinking, dang those blinkers mirrors are nice......real nice. Wish I had those. Then, "why not". Sure the angle is not the same, but the mount profile is very close. Nothing an alum. angle adapter couldn't solve. And hey, I AM a designer with a full machine shop. I looked around, and yes, there are some easier options on eBay, but they don't look great. And....a bonus, the design would look GREAT painted to match since you can take the paint all the way down the stock. So, has anyone tried this yet?? Photos?? Thoughts? Not exactly a cheap experiment.


Check out Darth Blings mirrors... not hondas but they work.

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...c=43247&hl=


http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...&hl=mirrors


I would really like to do this as well, but I missed out on the Darth mounts by a little bit. I don't have ability, so I'm jus waiting....

While I like the Darth version (nice work), I still prefer the new CBR1000 Mirrors. I think they have nicer lines, and a cleaner look. Two more plus points: They are Honda (Ride red my brothers), and if you did paint them, they would look really sharp due to the design. Which, I have alway loved Ducatis with painted mirrors, or MVs.

Only problem is, all you'll see is your elbows...

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Aug 21 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

Only problem is, all you'll see is your elbows...
Would need to measure. Doesn't look like the stem is as long as a vfr

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Aug 21 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

Only problem is, all you'll see is your elbows...

A mount to correct the angle combined with some lobster extenders should help.

Which year CBR1000RR is that? A co-worker has a new CBR, but it was a 2008 IIRC. The mirrors look identical in shape to the VVFR800, but the angle and mounts are a little different.

Well I went and messured, and whala, they are .5-1 inch longer! The only reason you "see your elbows" is because the CBR mounts them so much more narrow than a VFR. As far as which year CBR1000, it is the 2009 version than has the cool mirrors/blinkers. So what is need is a machined alum. block that the mirrors attach to to get the correct angle. Then a second set of holes (threaded) to mount them to the bike. Easy? Design wise yes, machining....I may have to use a CNC, maybe. Powder coat the mounts black, and paint the mirror housing body color. I think it would look sweet...and what it should have been from the factory. Even the blinker has a very simular design langauge to the headlights on a VFR

May I suggest Delrin. Easy to machine, already black, polishes nice and cheaper. See My Gallery for examples under my blackbird mirrors.

Larry

[image: View Post]vfrrider, on Aug 25 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

May I suggest Delrin. Easy to machine, already black, polishes nice and cheaper. See My Gallery for examples under my blackbird mirrors.

Larry

Yes I did think of that, and have some laying around. My only concern was that I think I will need to tap holes into the adapter due to the different angle required. Delrin does hold a thread pretty well though, and I could always press in some inserts. And the machined surface is VERY nice for plastic. Need to find the best option to buy them, price, etc. Then it will make up its own mind as to the best solution. Don't think I will make them and sell them like you did...maybe. But for sure will post how I did it and share SolidWorks files for anyone that wants them.

This was being discussed at the Summit. PM Cassandtim or Darth Bling, they may have some ideas on what they were thinking about w/ the RR mirrors.

[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on Aug 25 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

This was being discussed at the Summit. PM Cassandtim or Darth Bling, they may have some ideas on what they were thinking about w/ the RR mirrors.

these are the ones I used. You can use the existing mounts, as what you see in the picture is simply a rubber boot covering MUCH larger universal mounts. the only thing you have to do is drill a hole in the plastic between the mounting bolts, and then solder the wires to the front turn signal wires.

Took me about 30 minutes to do it all.

LED signal mirrors

Do we know for a fact that having them at the CBR angle would be bad? The reason I ask is because the adapter your describing would be shaped like a very thin wedge of cheese, and how would you have enough area for the mirror screws to thread into?

You could permanently glue it to a set of Lobster extenders, perhaps, and then tap threads through both?

I just measured and modelled a set of bases for Magellan before I set off for the Summit Meet. Definitely a P.I.T.A. as the arm's base shape doesn't use what I'd call "normal" geometry. The arcs on the base are spiral curves (constantly changing radius).

I think Magellan will be sending off the .DXF files to his CNC machinist this week to get a set knocked out. Hopefully we can nail the design (correct angles and such) on the first try.

Cheers,
-T

[image: View Post]cassandtim, on Aug 28 2009, 11:35 AM, said:

I just measured and modelled a set of bases for Magellan before I set off for the Summit Meet. Definitely a P.I.T.A. as the arm's base shape doesn't use what I'd call "normal" geometry. The arcs on the base are spiral curves (constantly changing radius).

You need to borrow one of those hand-held 3D scanners! I've used one a couple times and this is exactly what they are great for.....too bad I don't have one at my disposal!

[image: View Post]Robin the Boy Wonder, on Aug 25 2009, 05:10 PM, said:

Don't think I will make them and sell them like you did...maybe. But for sure will post how I did it and share SolidWorks files for anyone that wants them.

Nooooooooooooo :biggrin:

At least think about running off a few more. I for one would love a set.

Even if you have a CNC in your garage, it will be more cost effective to make more than one set Robin. Hook a few members up!

[image: View Post]cassandtim, on Aug 28 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

I just measured and modelled a set of bases for Magellan before I set off for the Summit Meet. Definitely a P.I.T.A. as the arm's base shape doesn't use what I'd call "normal" geometry. The arcs on the base are spiral curves (constantly changing radius).

I think Magellan will be sending off the .DXF files to his CNC machinist this week to get a set knocked out. Hopefully we can nail the design (correct angles and such) on the first try.

Cheers,
-T


T,

So you are already working on the adapter base plate for this conversion?

I'm assuming nothing has ever happened with this?

I am still doing it. My dirt bike needed some TLC befoer a Moab trip and got me side tracked. As well as taking off my VFR wheels to have them painted. But the mirrors will happen.

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Okay....I know...to much time has passed. What can I say.

Anyway, I went and took some measurements of the CBR1000RR mirror (new VFR mirror), and some angle measurements. Not the easiest thing to machine (or model) but it is doable. The length of both mounts are within 1mm of each other. The tough part is the shape, they are not simular. But by using a loft I was able to blend them pretty well.

I don't have the new mirrors yet, so I had to guess a little on the bump and cable routing locations. (Needed to see if it was possible first)

It would install pretty easy. Assemble the new mirror to the new mount, and run cords. Then just mount it to the bike by turning the mirror 90 degrees. Presto. (of course there will have to be a left and right for these)

I have asked some members for some engineering files of the current mount to save time...and money. Just be be sure the profile is perfect on on the bike.

So, if I can pull this off I will ask a machine shop I know to give me a price if they are ordered 20 or more at a time. Or...if there is someone here that would like to run them (Darth Bling?) I will hand over the 3D files. No one is going to get rich off of this. But.....I do think this set up is the way to go.

Still keeping an eye on this. I'd love to see how this turns out. Depending on cost and fitment, I would be in for a set.

I have absolutely no idea if these guys are any good or not, but here's a link for you to consider:

http://www.emachineshop.com/

Well, CAD files for the current mounts don't seem to be around, or nobody is sharing. Which slows this down a little.. I am also surprised by the lack of interest in these. Seems like people have tried and failed?? Love to know more detail about that before I spend more time and money on this.. Thoughts???

Or should I just throw on a set of Rizoma mirrors and call it a day?

I'm still interested. And I think you'll see much more interest generated when you have a finished working product for everyone to see. I can see how you might not want to take that risk though.

Sorry can't help with the CAD files.

I'd be interested in a set, for the 5th gen. :wink:

I'd be interested in the solidworks file when you get these finished.

If you do compare to the Darth Bling mounts, please adjust for shorter people...I find my mirrors have to be tweaked as far as possible for me to see out of them, and the light isn't parallel with the ground.

Is the project still going? I just found this and am quite curious. I have wanted the mirrors with turn signals but refuse to get cheap fleabay clones. And i aswell missed out on the darthbling run. I asked him about the possibility of another run but havent heard much interest.