My 95 v4 fighter project

well i got myself a vfr after wanting one for ages , i picked her up from the auctions for $800 shes a 1995 vfr750 unknown k's as no dash , forks and wheels straight , no dents in the tank , its got brand new tyres with nipples still attached , just been seviced from what i can tell oils clean as a whistle and coolants clean , all plastics are farked but who wants them , oil coolers bent but its a gay one anyway , and for $800 bucks i couldnt complain , plans are to sell my current fighter hyo 650 to fund this one , parts will include 09 cbr1000 tail section or ktm rc8 if i can find one , cbr 954 front end complete with clip-ons , no muffler but a classy baffled tip of some description , acewell dash or similar , 17x6.5 inch wide car rim rear , and crystal effects paint work

so here is the build thread winters just about here so in the shed i go

as i picked her up lack of light and dash and wrecked plastics

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onto the home made bike table , the one and only time a centre stand is cool

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brand spankers not evern a scuff make or flat spot from the stack

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the wiring damage

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and as she stands today down to her knickers now , just to tidy up all the bits hanging off and start the transformation

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so after a bit of mucking around with a soldering iron heat shrink and a wiring diagram shes alive

f$ck it sounds good , and you think its getting a muffler , no way just a baffled tip

will update as i go

Congrats! Please keep us posted with updated pics as you progress. The sound of the V4 and gear driven cams is simply intoxicating.

Rollin

Sweet, reminds me of mine when I got it. . . you've got a bit messier wiring to deal with though.

That's awesome. I've always wanted to build a streetfighter from a Gen 4. Great work! Keep us posted.

A messy VFR Streetfighter looks exactly that... A mess.

A cleanly done VFR Streetfighter... Nothing is cooler.

Good luck, do it right and keep us updated.

Hyofighter... all plastics are farked but who wants them

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From the pics the belly pan looks good, 2nd pic left side seems unblemished, can't really tell about the right side in this 1st pic.

The left on my '96 is slightly rashed... would you sell me yours?

PM sent also.

Somebody needs to make some fiberglas replacement front end parts for this generation. :rolleyes:

Hyofighter,

Good luck! A clean streetfighter'ed VFR is a challenge, but there are several attractive ones already here on VFRD, so it can be done.

--Ron

Hobie1dog

Somebody needs to make some fiberglas replacement front end parts for this generation. :rolleyes:

Hobie1dog,

Someone already beat you to it: in the US there's Airtech, and in Germany there's Thurn (with pix of the Thurn bodywork in this earlier VFRD thread, thanks to Dutchy).

There may be other companies offering aftermarket bodywork - but those are the first two that come to my mind.

-- Ron

Sounds pretty healthy. That left hand mirror would've be great for keeping an eye out for police helicopters!

Sweet mother of jehovah... What a sound

tip of the cap to you good sir... the best of luck!

Can't wait to see the body go on! :rolleyes:

Good stuff Scotty, what a bargain.

I added a few pics to Gitzy's VFR Fighers page yesterday, few more ideas for you to consider :tour:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19173

The Phantom

Good stuff Scotty, what a bargain.

I added a few pics to Gitzy's VFR Fighers page yesterday, few more ideas for you to consider :cheerleader:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19173

Where are people hiding their reservoirs bottles?

slowjoe64

The Phantom

Good stuff Scotty, what a bargain.

I added a few pics to Gitzy's VFR Fighers page yesterday, few more ideas for you to consider :cheerleader:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19173

Where are people hiding their reservoirs bottles?

It looks like the majority just took it off. . . ? but that doesn't quite seem right.

A couple replaced it with something that matched the bike style a bit better.

I just painted most of mine (and left a strip down the back so I can check the level).

hammerspur got ya pm , and was thinking man thats gonna cost a fortune to sent there !!!! hope you find one a bit closer

cheers fellas for the compliments , got a bit of work ahead but im looking forward to the challenge

I think the fun part will be shortening the front wires enough to fit in the small space between airbox/frame/cylinder head up front... :cheerleader:

WIN6

It looks like the majority just took it off. . . ? but that doesn't quite seem right.

A couple replaced it with something that matched the bike style a bit better.

I just painted most of mine (and left a strip down the back so I can check the level).

Not clear from your pics, but did you put a dirtbike bar on? If so, did you have to lengthen the throttle cable, choke cable or brake lines?

auggius

WIN6

It looks like the majority just took it off. . . ? but that doesn't quite seem right.

A couple replaced it with something that matched the bike style a bit better.

I just painted most of mine (and left a strip down the back so I can check the level).

Not clear from your pics, but did you put a dirtbike bar on? If so, did you have to lengthen the throttle cable, choke cable or brake lines?

Will be keeping a close eye on this rebuild thread as it should be very interesting.

slowjoe64Where are people hiding their reservoirs bottles?

Plenty of room on the left side of the engine. Between the steeringhead and airbox there's a big empty space too.

Also I suspect that some of those bikes aren't completed yet.

The Phantom

slowjoe64Where are people hiding their reservoirs bottles?

Plenty of room on the left side of the engine. Between the steeringhead and airbox there's a big empty space too.

Also I suspect that some of those bikes aren't completed yet.

Until you start jamming the wiring harness in there, lol! :cheerleader:

not a great deal has been going on lately , took the old busted plastic down to morrys work place motor cycle masters ti see if he was interested in any of it before i put it in the bin and he swapped me the plastics for a rear set for the vfr and a starter solenoid for the hyo those blokes are legends , forks removed ready for the cbr front end that i will hopefully pick up on fri from masters , get the tyres peeled off the rims so i can get rid of them read for mitchy pilots , still keen for a car rim but i really dont want offset so it limits me to 6 or 6.5 rim width and there impossible to find , once the fronts in its loom chop , dash then the tail section

note : awesome use of bar stool for support , there always there when ya need them

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another thing i noticed the airbox has a ugly snorkle on it can it be removed ? will doing this affect the way the cv carbs work ? will rejeting sort it ? or do i leave it alone ?

Hyofighter

another thing i noticed the airbox has a ugly snorkle on it can it be removed ? will doing this affect the way the cv carbs work ? will rejeting sort it ? or do i leave it alone ?

Yes, it can be removed. I think it's more of a intake noise reducer more than anything else. Aftermarket jet kits require removal.

cheers for that

well i needed the barstool back and the front end has been siting there for to long ready to got in i think it was a bit of dirt fever as i have found myself getting lost in the bush on the CRM in my spare time , from never owning a honda i now have two im not sure if this socially accepted but i own a hyosung so it can only get better

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so i put the front end in and luckly someone has previously put taper roller bearings in the vfr getting rid of the ball race and they fitted the CBR stem like a bum in a bucket , the whole front end slid right in as i was told as easy as the only thing that need some attention is the steering stops as the forks at full lock touch the radiator but i drill and tap the original stops and put a long grub screw in them and adjust the depth till is right , easy fix

shes starting to look the goods now , i got some wicked clip on fork mounts and just had to make some bars , i like the look of the clipons with the big tank of the viffer looks a bit cafeish so im thinking a TL1000S tail section with the single seat cowl will give it a modern cafe look with its big hump , what do yas think ???

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plenty of meat to drill and tap

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slowjoe64

The Phantom

Good stuff Scotty, what a bargain.

I added a few pics to Gitzy's VFR Fighers page yesterday, few more ideas for you to consider :fing02:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19173

Where are people hiding their reservoirs bottles?

At first i used a baby bottle with two holes drilled in the top. But in the end i found an HRC catch tank did the job better.

I actually now sell these items in my bike shop. They sure tidy things up behind the radiator. As things progress with this build i think i will relocate the catch tank behind the nose cone as the light unit will soon not be there.

as i start to tidy things up on the bike ill get to that , ive got a mate who has offered to make a nice alloy overflow , but we'll see when i get there

B4D80Y

slowjoe64

The Phantom

Good stuff Scotty, what a bargain.

I added a few pics to Gitzy's VFR Fighers page yesterday, few more ideas for you to consider :comp13:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19173

Where are people hiding their reservoirs bottles?

At first i used a baby bottle with two holes drilled in the top. But in the end i found an HRC catch tank did the job better.

I actually now sell these items in my bike shop. They sure tidy things up behind the radiator. As things progress with this build i think i will relocate the catch tank behind the nose cone as the light unit will soon not be there.

Good to see you moving ahead with your project. Things are looking great. I like the CBR 600RR front end. FYI, I've heard the 1000RR is actually shorter. Thanks for the baby bottle idea and if I go fighter with my bike I'll give you a ring. Actually, too bad Honda sisn't go with a standard stle VFR, like the original Sabre, becase I think they look pretty cool.

Any progress on this?

SEBSPEED

Any progress on this?

not alot i still need to sell the other bike to fund this , at the moment nothing is selling in western australia , house has been on the market for 6 months with nothing positive , the bike is at a rock bottom price and i sold my ute for a steal so till it sells not alot is gonna be going on only the things i can do as i save for them

so i went to motorcycle masters today , and what a bunch of legends they are , the guys there looked after me coz moz said so (love bites were discussed but luckly they wernt needed) i picked up a nice set of levers zx10 brake master and TLR clutch master , the clutch master has a bit of corrosion but it was given to me so if it cleans up ill use it if not ill chase up another

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then set about to find a tail the boys let me get amoungst the wrecks and trawl through till i found some thing that caught my eye , after searching the hundreds of parts and wreck i found this honda vtr sp2 tail , not your usual fighter selection but is less ugly than the TL-S tail i was wanting but still had nice curves for the retro cafefighter style im wanting

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once home quick bodgy fit up to see how she looks , i reackon it would give a jelly fish a horn , also had a sweet undertail already

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The tail section looks good!!! Believe it or not, it's fairly easy to mount. I just made some links out of 20mm square aluminum extrusion, cut them to length, and drilled some holes at each end. The stock seat is rather uncomfortable, so I also have a Sargent seat, it's alot better!!!!!! The rest is pretty simple actually.

I like where this is going, keep up the work! :cheerleader:

right tlr clutch master is getting kitted was a bit shitty inside dash turned up today (cheers moz) not the motogadget jobbys i had thought originally but the acewell is easy to read and passes all legal requirements for rego , now to order the light

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SP rear end looks really good..... :laughing6-hehe:

Will be nice to see bike further on without bodywork, so i can peek at your sub frame arrangements....After all we have similar 95 V4 projects on the go..

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Streetfighters

interesting the frames of the four streetfighters on the wall too...

Ciao, Luigi.

B4D80Y

SP rear end looks really good..... :laughing6-hehe:

Will be nice to see bike further on without bodywork, so i can peek at your sub frame arrangements....After all we have similar 95 V4 projects on the go..

yeah not really sure on what im gonna do here as the sp2 sub frame is about 75mm to short under the seat section but the mounting positions arent that far off so im undecided as to weather to chop and extend the sub frame or to made a nice adaptor plate on the mill , not sure but either way it will be covered by the plastics , the seat plastics will need to but modded around the tank area but ive got that covered

what did you do to mount your tail ?

Hyofighter

B4D80Y

SP rear end looks really good..... :fing02:

Will be nice to see bike further on without bodywork, so i can peek at your sub frame arrangements....After all we have similar 95 V4 projects on the go..

yeah not really sure on what im gonna do here as the sp2 sub frame is about 75mm to short under the seat section but the mounting positions arent that far off so im undecided as to weather to chop and extend the sub frame or to made a nice adaptor plate on the mill , not sure but either way it will be covered by the plastics , the seat plastics will need to but modded around the tank area but ive got that covered

what did you do to mount your tail ?

I mounted the ducati rear end using some solid aluminum 2"x1" square.

First used cardboard to mock up (see attachment) what i think i wanted, then cut and drilled the bar i had.

The attached pics are from about a year ago attaching road bodywork... Im now attaching works Ducati race frame work using these home made adapters.

They are strong and work well for now, the origonal idea was to be able to swap from road to race using genuine parts where poss....

i mite try to remake the adaptors in one piece given the chance or if i had a mill, but i only have borrow of a drill and a hack saw...

If you were to totally remake a sub frame for the SP rear it would make things simple, clean and light. Its all about the availability of tools and materials.

hmmmm might remake the the standard sp2 subframe , might be the easier and neater option , cheers for the info

Good work

I didn't see where your oil radiator is going, I'm going to need to relocate mine and am wondering if there are some kits that would fit?

Are you interested in selling the passenger hand grips? - even with shipping from Australia you cannot be as much of a rip off artist as my local honda dealer

Thanks

Sparky40sw

Are you interested in selling the passenger hand grips? - even with shipping from Australia you cannot be as much of a rip off artist as my local honda dealer

Thanks

i would but i have sold everything i took of the viffer already , sorry

time for a update , last few months not alot been happening as was working my ass off and saving for our drivimg holiday east to deni and the rest of the time was prepping the ute for the trip , but now im back and is time to get back ing to this thing as it sits now , not alot has changed

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picked up a vtr sp2 front gaurd is shorter at the back and bolts up the same but i like the look of it

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i picked up these set of lights off a mate there sachs madass lights joined side by side and got the mounst and brackets too , i scored a HID kit from work but i trialed it in the lens but the HID globe is slightly longer than the original halogen and it throws the focus of the projector beam out and the light is everywhere but where you want it , so halogens it will stay

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not sure if im a fan but there growing on me , with the acewell mounted up it will look better

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painted up the two covers , turned out mint

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was gonna order a probolt kit but took a trip to my local bolt man and got a heap of stainless bolts for the engine and ordered a heap of nice looking and rated bolts for the triples and brakes all for a 10th of the price of a probolt kit

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can for the radiator over flow

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the original oil cooler was bent but didnt leak , is ugly to boot so im looking for a small neat oil cooler to replace it , was thinking a small power steering cooler from a car

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though i was offered this for free is a transmisson cooler and is a similar size to the original but am still looking for something different

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well todays effort

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Hyofighter

well todays effort

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Vorsprung durch Technik???

Great to have a large garage to build at your leisure... :fing02:

I dunno, but I think you lost me on this one after the addition of the brass knuckles.... :blink:

It might be taking "street fighter" too literally, just too "Jesse James" for my taste...... What happened to the nice headlight unit you showed us earlier before the scooter item came up? Like that first one much better.

JMOs

Beck

95 VFR

Beck

It might be taking "street fighter" too literally, just too "Jesse James" for my taste......

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Beck

I dunno, but I think you lost me on this one after the addition of the brass knuckles.... :blink:

It might be taking "street fighter" too literally, just too "Jesse James" for my taste...... What happened to the nice headlight unit you showed us earlier before the scooter item came up? Like that first one much better.

JMOs

Beck

95 VFR

each to there own i spose , as for the headlight LSL sell that unit sure its nice but every man and there dog are buying them now and at $760 landed in western australia i couldnt justify buyin it

and whats wrong with the 'duster rearsets , havent seen any other vfrs with them and being individual and applying ones own personal taste is what fightering is all about

my 2 cents no harm intended

Hyofighter

Beck

I dunno, but I think you lost me on this one after the addition of the brass knuckles.... :blink:

It might be taking "street fighter" too literally, just too "Jesse James" for my taste...... What happened to the nice headlight unit you showed us earlier before the scooter item came up? Like that first one much better.

JMOs

Beck

95 VFR

each to there own i spose , as for the headlight LSL sell that unit sure its nice but every man and there dog are buying them now and at $760 landed in western australia i couldnt justify buyin it

and whats wrong with the 'duster rearsets , havent seen any other vfrs with them and being individual and applying ones own personal taste is what fightering is all about

my 2 cents no harm intended

no harm taken :biggrin: I thought you might own an Audi too, but a knuckleduster it is then...

having the 'brass knuckles' is almost a 100% surefire way to get the bike into streetfighters magazine.

I dunno, brass knuckles for me personally, just presents very dirty, thuggish message because of the history behind the things that seems ot relate directly to things like "sucker punches" and "low blows". Our cultures almost always connect them to the cheating "bad guy" in most fights.. ...Yes, streetfighters are supposed to give a tough llook,......but many also look for the tough "Hero" look.....I guess you can say the same for most weapons, but nothing seems to top the brass knuckles for it's crude primal negative effect on the psyche such as maybe a medieval mace would..........JMOs

Anyway,............did you also consider of making them into clutch and brake levers instead?? :biggrin:

Beck

95 VFR

Hyofighter

well todays effort

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You should have made the knucles bolt-on, so if the need arises, you could have them at the ready... :fing02:

i did consider bolting them but passed on the idea , and beck could you imagine if i got all pear shaped and ya binned the bike with your fingers stuck in duster levers , :ohmy:

but i do get what your saying with the duster think but hopefully in the end the bike will look dirty, angry and mean, ready to rape the roads

Beck

Anyway,............did you also consider of making them into clutch and brake levers instead?? :biggrin:

Beck

95 VFR

No! That's what the hand grenades are for! :biggrin:

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Nice. How much were the reservoirs, and were did you get them?

Hyofighter

so i went to motorcycle masters today , and what a bunch of legends they are , the guys there looked after me coz moz said so (love bites were discussed but luckly they wernt needed) i picked up a nice set of levers zx10 brake master and TLR clutch master , the clutch master has a bit of corrosion but it was given to me so if it cleans up ill use it if not ill chase up another

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then set about to find a tail the boys let me get amoungst the wrecks and trawl through till i found some thing that caught my eye , after searching the hundreds of parts and wreck i found this honda vtr sp2 tail , not your usual fighter selection but is less ugly than the TL-S tail i was wanting but still had nice curves for the retro cafefighter style im wanting

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once home quick bodgy fit up to see how she looks , i reackon it would give a jelly fish a horn , also had a sweet undertail already

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It is going to have nice lines and a good stance.

OMG the knucks that is sweet!

SEBSPEED

Nice. How much were the reservoirs, and were did you get them?

i ordered them through this mob http://www.extremecreations.com.au/ , ben who owns this company also owns this one http://www.bxpmachining.com.au/ who made the ressies , they werent the cheapest avalible but i had to have them they look so good and are all the same as i have vfr rear , tlr clutch and zx10 front , each was $115 plus gst , he also makes some wicked other gear and man that bloke can build a bike

his own

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well bit more done , as i had a pile of parts in waiting was time to fit them up along with some paint

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i think the rearsets turned out awesome IMO

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braided lines , dash , lights , im thinking a small screen maybe what ive got now is growing on me and im liking it but a think a screen might tidy it up but i dont want it to look to cafe

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me likey so far , and ben that bxp gear is sweet as

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Coming along nicely, keep it up! :fing02:

BR

BaileyRock

Coming along nicely, keep it up! :fing02:

BR

+1!

Did you consider tucking all the lines and wires in behind the lights? That would tidy it up quite a bit IMO. A small (6x5"?) "screen" or painted placard would fill the gap between the lights and the gauge without spoiling your look. (and would hide the lines and wires if you tucked them all in!).

i did think about it for sure but i moved the lights as far back as i could as they are pretty long units and theres not alot of room back there , but once i tidy the wiring up and do some thing with the accelerator cables it may not be to bad , still thinking a small screen , i have one in mind i just got to pick it up from a mate

well for the oil cooler i couldnt find anything i really liked so i modded a powersteering cooler to suit how i wanted it to mount , im not sure if im keen on it but it is growing on me , might do something with the oil lines though , not braided as there is nothing else braided but some thing to stop it being wrecked by the elements

dont worry about the dodgy welding ali is hard and i aint no welder

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Looks well thought out and the craftsmanship is nice. I guess as long at it cools.....Your good to go. :biggrin:

Any concerns about the cooler being so close to the exhaust? Nice work.

VIFFER93

Any concerns about the cooler being so close to the exhaust? Nice work.

a few so im gonna work through my options , ill think of something . although there is a bit of a gap id like a bit more

You will need to raise the forks up about 19mm with the 929/954 set up or the steering will be dangerously run wide on every corner.

My oil cooler is the opposite side to your radiator catch tank. Swapped the metal oil outlet pipes and cut down standard rubber hoses. Have noticed engine runs slightly cooler than stock....more direct air flow i assume.

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Thought about a tidy up of the oil lines, but things work well right now, so i will later on.....will change cooler also...

Hyofighter

VIFFER93

Any concerns about the cooler being so close to the exhaust? Nice work.

a few so im gonna work through my options , ill think of something . although there is a bit of a gap id like a bit more

Ahh yes, I have been in this scenario. Not really 100% confident/happy with the current solution but need to move forward, hoping to be inspired with a new solution (typically after a pint or 4,5,6 :beer: ) down the road.

With my project I was thinking about mounting an oil cooler the to bottom of the radiator and trying to make it look like one unit piece. In the end it was a bit impracticle for something that could have an "off track experience" and needed to be repaired quickly.

Nice work so far and I appreciate the time and effort.

Interesting project! Coming along nicely.

VIFFER93

Hyofighter

VIFFER93

Any concerns about the cooler being so close to the exhaust? Nice work.

a few so im gonna work through my options , ill think of something . although there is a bit of a gap id like a bit more

Ahh yes, I have been in this scenario. Not really 100% confident/happy with the current solution but need to move forward, hoping to be inspired with a new solution (typically after a pint or 4,5,6 :beer: ) down the road.

With my project I was thinking about mounting an oil cooler the to bottom of the radiator and trying to make it look like one unit piece. In the end it was a bit impracticle for something that could have an "off track experience" and needed to be repaired quickly.

Nice work so far and I appreciate the time and effort.

like this you mean ? i did think about it but my original cooler was bent like a banana

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B4D80Y

You will need to raise the forks up about 19mm with the 929/954 set up or the steering will be dangerously run wide on every corner.

tell me more plz ,

Hyofighter

B4D80Y

You will need to raise the forks up about 19mm with the 929/954 set up or the steering will be dangerously run wide on every corner.

tell me more plz ,

Hey Scott, Kev is correct, running the triples at the top of the forks extends the trail and slackens the rake - think cruiser steering. If you drop the triples down the forks (aka raise the forks in the triples) you will steepen the rake and shorten the trail, which takes it back to the neutral position of the VFR.

Hyofighter

VIFFER93

Hyofighter

VIFFER93

Any concerns about the cooler being so close to the exhaust? Nice work.

a few so im gonna work through my options , ill think of something . although there is a bit of a gap id like a bit more

Ahh yes, I have been in this scenario. Not really 100% confident/happy with the current solution but need to move forward, hoping to be inspired with a new solution (typically after a pint or 4,5,6 :beer: ) down the road.

With my project I was thinking about mounting an oil cooler the to bottom of the radiator and trying to make it look like one unit piece. In the end it was a bit impracticle for something that could have an "off track experience" and needed to be repaired quickly.

Nice work so far and I appreciate the time and effort.

like this you mean ? i did think about it but my original cooler was bent like a banana

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That is awesome. Hmmmmmm...... Now you have me thinking.

I was originally thinking of was actually welding the two together and making it look pretty.

The Phantom

Hyofighter

B4D80Y

You will need to raise the forks up about 19mm with the 929/954 set up or the steering will be dangerously run wide on every corner.

tell me more plz ,

Hey Scott, Kev is correct, running the triples at the top of the forks extends the trail and slackens the rake - think cruiser steering. If you drop the triples down the forks (aka raise the forks in the triples) you will steepen the rake and shorten the trail, which takes it back to the neutral position of the VFR.

cheers phantom , for some reason i thought that the 954 front end was around an inch shorter , but i didnt take any measurements of the old front end , but thats cool always open to advice , thoughts and opinions

Hyofightercheers phantom , for some reason i thought that the 954 front end was around an inch shorter , but i didnt take any measurements of the old front end , but thats cool always open to advice , thoughts and opinions

Yep, it is indeed shorter, but you still need to keep the chassis geometry reasonably within spec. I had mine set up the same as yours and Veefer800Canuck pointed out the problem with it... the problem is compounded by the change in fork offset between the VFR triples and CBR triples.

Also the correct term for the angle that the forks sit on is castor... but rake is also used.

Trail is the distance between where a straight line through the steeringhead hits the ground, and where a straight line dropped vertically from the axle hits the ground, offset is the distance between steeringhead centre and fork centres measured longitudinally.

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Any concerns about the cooler being so close to the exhaust? Nice work.

a few so im gonna work through my options , ill think of something . although there is a bit of a gap id like a bit more

Ahh yes, I have been in this scenario. Not really 100% confident/happy with the current solution but need to move forward, hoping to be inspired with a new solution (typically after a pint or 4,5,6 :beer: ) down the road.

With my project I was thinking about mounting an oil cooler the to bottom of the radiator and trying to make it look like one unit piece. In the end it was a bit impracticle for something that could have an "off track experience" and needed to be repaired quickly.

Nice work so far and I appreciate the time and effort.

like this you mean ? i did think about it but my original cooler was bent like a banana

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That is awesome. Hmmmmmm...... Now you have me thinking.

I was originally thinking of was actually welding the two together and making it look pretty.

I first tried the oil rad under the water rad like posted here, but the wheel was touching under braking and it did not look right. So relocated to the side.

Would be nice if someone was able to produce the workings and correct figure in mm's of the correct drop of fork length to match standard VFR specs. Altho i did run standard VFR forks 7mm below as well. so maybe i should see if thats worth adding at the end of the equation also???

I read the 19mm figure off VFRD some time ago and kept the figure in my head. Lost that thread a long time ago.... But i have added the 929/954 front end and taken it to the track, started at the tops flush with yokes, running silly wide on corners, then dropped to 14mm playing safe, still a little wide, then to the now 19mm, which is better. Haven't had the chance to check for lower yet as im still dialing in various running parts. My front Dymag is 2.75 inch so that will not help with pin point steering. But im still after the handling i got from my last CBR 98/99 fireblade front end. That missing 7mm mite be on the cards yet???

cheers fellas i appreciate the info , i was half thinking early in the piece that at the end of this project about getting the suspension setup by some one with the know how , im not a pro racer but id like a bike that handles well , have even thought about a rear shock upgrade not sure but i thought the cbr 929 954 rear fits

Hyofighter

cheers fellas i appreciate the info , i was half thinking early in the piece that at the end of this project about getting the suspension setup by some one with the know how , im not a pro racer but id like a bike that handles well , have even thought about a rear shock upgrade not sure but i thought the cbr 929 954 rear fits

CBR929 shock = yes, CBR954 = no, as it has the reservoir in a different spot and it won't clear the battery box. Although with your SP1 tail you might not have that problem?

The bottom mount is a straight bolt-up, the top clevis mount needs to be extended (45mm I think). Pretty straightforward, there are topics here that show you how.

929 shock at top:

Extended top mount:

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5th Gen VFR800 installation topic but has 4th Gen VFR750 info:

is true with the sp tail i have heaps of room , the shock conversion might be a goer , might look into other brands and see if anything is close to the same length as the standard one , does anyone know the the length between the hole centres off the top of there head ???? if not ill just measure it when i get to the shed over the weekend

cheers for the info too fellas

todays effort , (and i mean effort , way to many rums last night) made the plate and spacers for mounting up the tail just need cleaning up painting , theres enough room in there i might fab up a battery box or use the area for my wiring spaghetti , get some more nice allen cup head bolts , i sat on it to night and suprisingly it is reasonable comfortable but time will tell on the road , that sp2 seat is a little hard , but ill sort that when i get it recovered

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as for this area im not sure what to do with it , either trim it back , extend the lower section of the seat to come down and wrap the tank but i think that might look funny , or glass a panel up for it , but i know nothing about fibreglass

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Please take no offense, just an opinion... I would mold the tail section to connect the tank/frame/tail to look like one piece. I realize this might be to much body work for a street fighter.

Thanks for sharing your hard work

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no offence take , thats exactly what i want , just your pic makes it look heaps better , nice work

The Phantom

Hyofightercheers phantom , for some reason i thought that the 954 front end was around an inch shorter , but i didnt take any measurements of the old front end , but thats cool always open to advice , thoughts and opinions

Yep, it is indeed shorter, but you still need to keep the chassis geometry reasonably within spec. I had mine set up the same as yours and Veefer800Canuck pointed out the problem with it... the problem is compounded by the change in fork offset between the VFR triples and CBR triples.

Also the correct term for the angle that the forks sit on is castor... but rake is also used.

Trail is the distance between where a straight line through the steeringhead hits the ground, and where a straight line dropped vertically from the axle hits the ground, offset is the distance between steeringhead centre and fork centres measured longitudinally.

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so from this i am trying to reduce the trail ??? as more caster will aid in the self straightening of the bike so im trying to reduce its effects a bit ??? i lowered the front end 10mm but that is all ill get using the clip ons ive got , i could also reduce the height with a lower profile tyre too i guess

I am really enjoying your work on this build.

Hyofighter

The Phantom

Hyofightercheers phantom , for some reason i thought that the 954 front end was around an inch shorter , but i didnt take any measurements of the old front end , but thats cool always open to advice , thoughts and opinions

Yep, it is indeed shorter, but you still need to keep the chassis geometry reasonably within spec. I had mine set up the same as yours and Veefer800Canuck pointed out the problem with it... the problem is compounded by the change in fork offset between the VFR triples and CBR triples.

Also the correct term for the angle that the forks sit on is castor... but rake is also used.

Trail is the distance between where a straight line through the steeringhead hits the ground, and where a straight line dropped vertically from the axle hits the ground, offset is the distance between steeringhead centre and fork centres measured longitudinally.

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so from this i am trying to reduce the trail ??? as more caster will aid in the self straightening of the bike so im trying to reduce its effects a bit ??? i lowered the front end 10mm but that is all ill get using the clip ons ive got , i could also reduce the height with a lower profile tyre too i guess

Also consider any changes that you might make to the rear suspension/ride height.

Hyofighter

no offence take , thats exactly what i want , just your pic makes it look heaps better , nice work

Thurn's seat (from Germany) does the same thing...fills up the crappy looking space with a fiberglass panel. I think it looks better than leaving it raw.

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well with xmas , holidays , the current storms , my trashed yard , and bulk overtime helping lineys with putting the powerlines back up all over now i can get back to it , i have a dead line id like to meet being 27th of mar to have it done for the all jap bike show i thought i better get my A into G

i did lower the front down the froks about 10mm and ill play with it from there to fix the trail issue , maybe a low profile tyre too , have done anything with the fibreglassing , glassing scares me but will give it ago

so i got a few more parts , mirrors , a screen , and a exhaust tip i made up but not sure on it , it'll be loud just like i like it but

my mirrors legal , just

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the screen opinions please , i think i will drill some new mounting holes at the sides and lower it down about 15mm or sop to try and get rid of the gap , i wasnt sure about it in the beginning but its growing on me

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and the exhaust tip

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The front reservoirs look the business.

I always find that cleaning my work area really helps to motivate me (into making a new mess...) :smile:

Oh, those mirrors - if you can, remove the lenses and reattach them using some brand name epoxy or silicone. They WILL rattle & fall off when you least want them to.

haha i know its a brothel in there , cleaning the mess is the weekends task along with new oil and hearing it running again

Hyofighter

haha i know its a brothel in there ,

hhhmm

european brothels look completely different...... :laughing6-hehe:

Dutchy

Hyofighter

haha i know its a brothel in there ,

hhhmm

european brothels look completely different...... :laughing6-hehe:

haha so true

lowered the light and quickly drilled some more holes in the screen mount to lower that and it looks a bit better

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rang extreme creations got some measurements for the front rim of some wheels there selling from a CB1000r then shot home compared it to mine is a bit different but not far off so a few changes hopefully it fits by making 1 out of the 2

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The lights, IMO, are a bit too small in relation to the bike. Have you thought about using PVC adapters as shrouds?

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they do look small in the pictures but in the flesh there not to bad , but having said that when its on the road it the lights them selves may be crap in the output department so i may change them as i do do a bit of night riding and good light is a must , i did put a HID in the light one day to see how they performed but because the the HID globe is that bit longer than a normal H3 halogen it put the focal point out of the projector beam and the light out put was all over the place , will just have to see once its on the road

as for todays effort BRING THE NOISE

Hyofighteras for todays effort BRING THE NOISE [video: https://www.youtube.com/embed/s5-pdecUAWo?feature=oembed]

She's got a nice bark... always helps bouncing it off the old corrugated iron! Looks like a tip from a HSV?

I like the screen with the lights. Interesting to hear the HID didn't work out as I've been considering trying it in my dual projectors.

The Phantom

She's got a nice bark... always helps bouncing it off the old corrugated iron! Looks like a tip from a HSV?

I like the screen with the lights. Interesting to hear the HID didn't work out as I've been considering trying it in my dual projectors.

dont get me wrong on HID lights i ended up using the kit for some spotties on my ute , its just the focal point was wrong for mine , i have seen hid projector beams out there but

and the noise in that shed when shes running is loud for sure but that v4 rumble would give a jellyfish a horn , and good spotting on the tip :fing02:

so this is the plates i had made to mount up the tail id like to call them trial 1 as they are shit

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not very pretty but they worked so i re-made some new ones and at the same time moved the seat up a tad and in a bit plus a little bit more angle but only the smallest amount and its heap better , lighter and now i wont make a fill in panel of glass , im going to cut the tab off the bottom of the tank and fill in the bottom body line of the tank to smooth out the panel

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i had planned to vinyl wrap in carbon look but im not sold on the idea yet as im thinking it will be too much , was going to break it up with a red stripe down the length of the bike , just not sure

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so maybe ill paint it black with a red pearl over the top and still run the strip of red down the length of it , not sure maybe traditional flat black haha

Looking sweet. Really simple and clean subframe adaptor. :fing02:

Hyofighter

so this is the plates i had made to mount up the tail id like to call them trial 1 as they are shit

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not very pretty but they worked so i re-made some new ones and at the same time moved the seat up a tad and in a bit plus a little bit more angle but only the smallest amount and its heap better , lighter and now i wont make a fill in panel of glass , im going to cut the tab off the bottom of the tank and fill in the bottom body line of the tank to smooth out the panel

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i had planned to vinyl wrap in carbon look but im not sold on the idea yet as im thinking it will be too much , was going to break it up with a red stripe down the length of the bike , just not sure

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so maybe ill paint it black with a red pearl over the top and still run the strip of red down the length of it , not sure maybe traditional flat black haha

Top job there mate, it's coming together well! To see a fellow Aussie doing this kind of thing is awesome. I'll be getting my immaculate 1994 model on Tuesday. I have always had a soft spot for V4s and I can potentially see myself finding a broken/neglected VF/R to play with down the track as well. I gave up modding cars years ago, I should invest some time in a new tinker toy.

BACK ON TOPIC

I have a very different suggestion for the area under the tank:

1. Move the wiring out of the way, try to make the opening as clear as possible

2. Fab nice MESH covers!

Seriously digging the red rocker covers. In my mind hiding them is an injustice. Not only that, mesh is fighterish. It would be like, look at what is hiding in that cage, RED HEADS MOTHERF^&KER!!! CAGE FIGHTER!!!!

cool will have to keep an eye out for some of those

well im well stoked to show yas this , front page of the bible

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nice!

I need to paint my Variant now, or change the shield for a red one so we don't look the same... :wink:

so i liked the mx bars and they were comfy especially for that trip over east to the drags but i still wanted flat bars and after fitting the ones that werent wide enough to the dirt dragger i really liked the look and i still wanted that for the vfr so i stopped in at toms one arvo and got from him some raw 7/8 cro mo tube and made my own flat bars , nice and wide at 900mm to give the staunch look and clear everything from the tripples but thats when i went a bit far for a simple arvo job

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so whilst i was going to fit them i thought ill move the fork tube indicators under the bottom clamp and move the forks back down the clamps to give back some ground clearance , so then i took the headlight surround to the painters to use the leftover paint i had to cover it and touch up the front gaurd of its chips

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next was the rear i had that cbr shock to put in and it needed a spacer to be made to bring it up to the same ride height so i made it thicker to jack her up a tad more about 20mm in the end and that cbr shock rides heaps better than the vfr but now its more adjustable the plan is to get the front and back setup by someone you knows what there doing

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the only drama is the ressie hose is close to the exhaust but ill just have to keep an eye on it

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tried to fit a vf500 belly pan but after chopping and chopping to get it to fit it just ended up looking cheesy and was so flimsy i binned it , same with the under slug muffler idea i had just wasnt going to fit nice so out the window with that idea , so end result i thought the bars were a bit wide at first but now the gaurd and surround is on i like the look and suprisingly its comfy , but im yet to take it for a decent thrashing so ill see after that

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This is simply brilliant.

Beautiful job.

cheers man

Is the rear shock hose as close to the exhaust system as I think it is???

pretty close but there is the heat sheild and a 10-15mm gap , after a run this arvo all seemed fine , good skid on the spot with no air flow might be a different story but i never do that

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Things are looking great Hyo! When you mentioned lowering the forks a tad in the triples to gain clearance what were you referring to in regards to clearance? Fork caps to handlebar? Wheel to radiator? I have pretty much the same front end but have yet to have it on the road... just curious if you were having issues.

Peace!

Edit: I see you mentioned "ground clearance"... cornering clearance or pipes to ground issues?

mostly just ground clearance as well aswell as getting the fork caps away from the bars , some of the roads around here and bridge crossings and rail crossing when taken at speed have me worried about clearance under compression so I just thought more height less worry

If I were you I would suspend or jack up the bike, undo the fork caps, and lift the front wheel to fully compress the forks. Not entirely easy, but much easier to find interference this way, rather than out on the road.

I havent had any dramas as of yet for clearance but it was just a concern I had now I feel better about it now

Would be nice to know for sure though, wouldn't it? :smile:

Isn't it best to just wheelie (mono) over any bridge crossings, curbs, kangaroos... etc?

You got it apexandy . Seb compression was achieved today via strapping zero concerns to report

Lookin mean .....

Hyofighter

You got it apexandy . Seb compression was achieved today via strapping zero concerns to report

Glad to hear it. How much clearance do you have?

Also glad to hear you didn't lose a fork seal by compressing like that. It is a risk, hence the mention of undoing the fork caps. Imagine that would be a pain with the bar in the way, but still easier/quicker than a seal job.

So to compress the front by removing the forks caps it's basically as simple as removing caps and compressing suspension? The spring and such just protrude out the top? Fluid is fine etc...? Never thought about doing it this way to check for clearance and I don't know very much about fork internals. Thanks Seb :)

I'm glad to her you are out riding this bike a lot Hyo... I can't wait to get mine on the road!

apexandy

So to compress the front by removing the forks caps it's basically as simple as removing caps and compressing suspension? The spring and such just protrude out the top? Fluid is fine etc...? Never thought about doing it this way to check for clearance and I don't know very much about fork internals. Thanks Seb :)

I'm glad to her you are out riding this bike a lot Hyo... I can't wait to get mine on the road!

In a nutshell, yes. Make sure the bike is supported when you undo the caps! Lift the wheel slowly and the fluid won't make a big mess. Having a towel handy helps.

I can't wait to finish my 96 project and show it off here.

Thanks Seb :)