I posted a few days ago asking if anyone knew of alternative PAIR block off plates besides the A&A ones. I had e-mailed Dan (toro1) and he sent a reply back that he was out and wasn't even sure if or when he was going to make another production run of these. After searching for many hours I have found that these are the only ones that are specifically made for the VFR. There are others out there that will work but they are kind of "universal" so they don't fit that well on the VFR. Anyway, Dan actually got back in touch with me and he said if we could get 10 people together that wanted a set he would do a special run of them for VFRD members. So I am starting a list here and if anyone needs a set of the best made VFR block off plates just add your name to the list. This might be the last time to get these.
PAIR block off plates are used to disable the PAIR system. Basically, this system is used to introduce fresh air into the exhaust system to lower emissions levels coming out of the exhaust. If you run a PCV with auto tune or take your bike to a tuner shop this system has to be disabled to get an accurate reading. There are other ways of disabling the system but this is the cleanest way to do it.
They are 50.00 for the set. I think that includes shipping but I a not sure. You can look on toro1's webiste (A&A performance) and see them. They are high quality, machined, and anodized aluminum plates with stainless hardware included. Compared to the other ones sold on the net nothing comes close to the quality and fit.
3rd and 4th gen folks can get billet block off plates on ebay for $20/set. Believe it or not, Hayabusa plates are a 100% perfect fit. I have used them myself.
There are, of course, low priced options for the 5th and 6th gen on ebay as well, in the same price range. For the sake of not ruining toro's thread I won't go into detail here.
They aren't cheap, but aren't cheaply made, either!!!
This is the reason that I wanted to go with the A&A plates. There are many companies out there that make plates. Most of them are made for the CBR's and they will fit the VFR but just not perfect. Also, most of the e-bay plates are just cut from thin aluminum and not milled. I read for hours on other motorcycle sites and I found that even on VFR world, some of the members there had used the cheaper plates and later changed over to Dan's because of the quality.
which generation and how much? Looking at one set for the 4th gen, maybe for the 5th as well.
I got the plates for my 4th GEN from TPO parts, yes they are/were for a Busa but the kit they sell for the 4th gens comes with all the stuff to plug all the 4th gen plumbing. And yes it runs better and cooler and easier to tune. (BOMLE)
[image: View Post]Togan, on 29 December 2011 - 12:08 AM, said:
You can add me for a set also.
Thanks Togan. 2 more to go. I also see you are from Oklahoma. I just got back into riding this past fall so I am trying to get the bikes ready for this coming spring. I have met a few other "Okie" riders here so hope to meet you soon. Make sure to introduce yourself on the forum.
[image: View Post]VF800Ryan, on 29 December 2011 - 12:47 AM, said:
I'd take a set!
Thanks VFR800Ryan. This makes 10. I will get with Dan today and let him know. As soon as I speak to him I will let everyone know how long it will be and how he wants everyone to order. Also, I am sure he will not have just 10 sets of plates made up so there should be some for others that need a set.
Ok. I spoke with Dan again today. He was amazed at the interest in these so here is the low down. I have sent him the list. Everyone that wants a set just needs to contact him through the number on his website http://www.aaperf.com/contact.html and provide their payment information. He said that he would get started on them immediately and it should take approximately 3 - 4 weeks to deliver them. They will be just like the ones pictured on his website (orangeish colored anodized machined aluminum plates with stainless hardware). Price is 50.00 a set which includes shipping in the conus. Outside the conus will be extra. As this thread was just a feeler to find out if it would be worth his time, anyone that did not get on the list just needs to contact hime and will be able to get a set as he is going to make some extras. Thanks to all that replied to this thread stating that they wanted a set as you are the ones that made this happen. Can't wait to get mine.
[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 29 December 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:
Doncha love it when a plan comes together?
Amen. I am just glad that Dan decided to do this. He wasn't really interested at first but decided to after reading the thread and seeing all the folks that were interested in them.
Ok guys. I just called today and got my 2 sets ordered. Dan said the faster everyone on the list calls him and gets their order placed the faster he can get the materials and get started. So please, give him a call so we can get this going. He was going to get the machining part of the process set up after I got off the phone with him today so the ball is definately rolling now.
[image: View Post]Max1, on 02 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:
Is there a difference between blocking off the PAIR valve & just disconnecting the PAIR wiring connection on the 6th Gen? or do you have to do both?
You don't have to do both. I think most just use the marble trick to plug the pair hoses. Plates just make it look better as you can ditch the whole system.
To the original 15 on the list. Dan got with me today to let us know that the material is ordered and he is setting up the machine work. Should be about 4 weeks to get them done and in our hands. He is making 20 sets and they are 1st come 1st served. The reason that I state that is I know there have been a few members show interest in them after the list stopped. I would hate to see anyone miss out on them.
With the warmer weather up here in central NY, I prepped the bike for the parts.
I did remove the air box for easy access to the front assembly, although I suppose it would be just as easy to access from the front of the bike. Not sure I'll keep it like this, but I kept the short air box hose connected and blocked it off with a plug and tape.
Here are some pics. Yes, that's a squash racquet holding up the tank :-)
[image: View Post]vfrdriscoll, on 07 January 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:
Local auto stores didn't carry vacuum caps large enough. Opted for a rubber cap (also found at the auto store). 1/2" fit very nicely.
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Your air filter lid isn't fitting properly. Do you have a K&N filter? If so, you need to remove the rubber O-ring from the upper half of the airbox (lid) to get rid of that nasty gap you have going on there.
[image: View Post]Max1, on 02 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:
Is there a difference between blocking off the PAIR valve & just disconnecting the PAIR wiring connection on the 6th Gen? or do you have to do both?
You cannot just disconnect the wires because the PAIR system is enabled by default when there is NO power applied. Only when power is applied does PAIR shut off (it closes a valve). PAIR is always active except when the engine goes into closed loop mode (i.e. the O2 sensors trim the fuel), which is not very often.
Sticking a marble in the hose that comes from the airbox and goes to the PAIR valve solenoid will do the same thing as the PAIR block off plates. You need to raise the idle speed as well, and potentially adjust the fast idle wax unit as this controls cold engine idle speed. Both are affected when PAIR gets blocked off.
[image: View Post]whiteboyslo, on 26 January 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:
Any update?
Shot Dan an e-mail a couple of days ago. All 20 sets he was making up are sold. He has started the process and said he would update us as he went through the steps. Will let you guys know when I hear anything else from him.
[image: View Post]huntinggunns, on 27 January 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:
[image: View Post]whiteboyslo, on 26 January 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:
Any update?
Shot Dan an e-mail a couple of days ago. All 20 sets he was making up are sold. He has started the process and said he would update us as he went through the steps. Will let you guys know when I hear anything else from him.
[image: View Post]Graves, on 27 January 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:
[image: View Post]huntinggunns, on 27 January 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:
[image: View Post]whiteboyslo, on 26 January 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:
Any update?
Shot Dan an e-mail a couple of days ago. All 20 sets he was making up are sold. He has started the process and said he would update us as he went through the steps. Will let you guys know when I hear anything else from him.
Sold as in they are being shipped now?
No, they are not being shipped yet. These were a special run because Dan did not have any in stock and he wasn't even sure he was going to make anymore. He agreed to make a batch of 20 if the interest was still there. The thread was started to find out if it would be worth his while. It only took a few days to get enough members to ask for a set for him to agree to do this. All of the 20 sets have been sold to members. He ordered the materials to fabricate them and started getting the tooling set up to make them after he saw the interest was still there. He stated it would take about 4 weeks to be ready to ship so he should be getting close. As soon as I hear from him I will let everyone know where he is at with the project.
Machining the plates right now. I hope to have them completed today and sent down for anodizing first thing next week. Everyone who ordered will get a shipping notification when they are ready to go!
[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 27 January 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:
[image: View Post]vfrdriscoll, on 07 January 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:
Local auto stores didn't carry vacuum caps large enough. Opted for a rubber cap (also found at the auto store). 1/2" fit very nicely.
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Your air filter lid isn't fitting properly. Do you have a K&N filter? If so, you need to remove the rubber O-ring from the upper half of the airbox (lid) to get rid of that nasty gap you have going on there.
Veefer800Canuck,
Thanks - Wow - yes, and wondered since I bought the K&N. Removed the o-ring from the upper and the lower. Fits now.
Mine arrived too - here are some pic's . . . I would say as a community we're fortunate to have Toro and other members who make such high quality custom parts for us that can be had no where else. Thanks! Now, where did I put those wrenches . . .
Yeh, thanks to Dan for a beautiful product. I am kicking myself for not getting another set! as I know I will end up getting a second VFR and I will want them.
Installed mine today. WARNING more then likely you have to break off the screws on the pair valve. All of mine would not back out with a phillips screw driver. I use a small pair of channel locks to break off the screws.
By the time I noticed this thread it was too late to get in on the special run... any chance that there may be more made? I'm sure that at least 10 more sets would sell if you did another run since it seems like some peope who bought them would want a second set.
Should we start a new thread to see who signs up for a set? You can count me in for at least one set...
[image: View Post]kc5555, on 14 February 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:
Do need to defeat an ecu component of the pair system as is eluded to in an earlier post?
I disconnected the entire PAIR system, which includes the electrical connections. I simply unplugged the PAIR valve's wiring connector, then filled the connector with silicone to prevent water ingress and corrosion.
The actual PAIR plumbing I capped off with the appropriate sized vacuum plugs.
[image: View Post]Aegisranger, on 26 February 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:
By the time I noticed this thread it was too late to get in on the special run... any chance that there may be more made? I'm sure that at least 10 more sets would sell if you did another run since it seems like some peope who bought them would want a second set.
Should we start a new thread to see who signs up for a set? You can count me in for at least one set...
:)
I would contact Dan directly. He may have a few sets left. If not you might be able to talk him in to running another batch. His contact information is on his website.
I called A&A and talked to Dan's dad and he told me they still had a few PAIR kits. I stopped in at A&A yesterday and picked up my set. I also got a tour of the place and a look at all the supercharger kit parts... wow I'm so impressed with what Dan has done - true innovation. To see what this young man still in his 20's can do is inspiring and it gives me hope that our youth in the USA aren't all the sterotype of their generation. I didn't meet Dan, but if he is anything like his dad he must be a great guy.
i installed mine today, easy to do, especially with the instructions. The air box cap was a nice surprise.
My reed vavles were caked in carbon which is kind of worrying. What do the exhaust valves look like.
Should I take some sort of action to try and clean the top end? some kind of magical additive? Anyone inject water into a running engine to clean carbon with reasonable results?
I installed mine over the weekend. My reed screws also wouldn't back out. I used the cut-off wheel on my dremel to cut the threads off flush with the plate, then the shortened screw was easy to screw out.
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