Hybrid Vfr= 5Th Gen With A 6Th Gen Subframe

No, sorry it's not a electric / IC engine hybrid VFR that I am referring too (sorry but electric bikes just aren't my thing)... I am talking about mating the glorious sound of the 5th gen's GDC V-four to the more modern looking subframe/ tail section of the 6th gen.

How am I passing the time this winter? I bought a low mile (about 7k) Y2K VFR 800 in October and began collecting parts to swap out the subframe to a 6th gen complete with undertail exhaust.

My Honda bags from my '07 RWB will also be seeing some time on this bike as well.

I can't recall the previous VFRD member that had done this originally, but after seeing how fantastic his bike turned out I was inspired to build my own.

Here she is as I bought her in October. The bike was in great shape, with a V&H slip on and top box. I sold the top box off and am also selling the slip on exhaust as well.

Here are some pics of the bike that I was inspired from. (sorry I couldnt figure out how to post pics and then add text, and then type some more... )

And here is my progress so far

- new 6th gen subframe attached

-Staintune exhausts mounted

Next step is to relocate the rectifier and install the LED tail light on its way from Germany.

I will also be de-linking the front brakes, using Superhawk front forks and 6 piston calipers from a GSXR 1000. The rear shock will be swapped with JD CBR 929 unit, the turn signals will be "de-dumbo'd", the screen replaced with an MRA dark smoke double bubble, Braking brake rotors, a CBR 900RR master cylinder, LED front bulbs for the headlights, and the Shinkos will be replaced with some Pirelli Angel GTs.

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deltaboxii

No, sorry it's not a electric / IC engine hybrid VFR that I am referring too (sorry but electric bikes just aren't my thing)... I am talking about mating the glorious sound of the 5th gen's GDC V-four to the more modern looking subframe/ tail section of the 6th gen.

How am I passing the time this winter? I bought a low mile (about 7k) Y2K VFR 800 in October and began collecting parts to swap out the subframe to a 6th gen complete with undertail exhaust.

My Honda bags from my '07 RWB will also be seeing some time on this bike as well.

I can't recall the previous VFRD member that had done this originally, but after seeing how fantastic his bike turned out I was inspired to build my own.

Here she is as I bought her in October. The bike was in great shape, with a V&H slip on and top box. I sold the top box off and am also selling the slip on exhaust as well.

Here are some pics of the bike that I was inspired from. (sorry I couldnt figure out how to post pics and then add text, and then type some more... )

And here is my progress so far

- new 6th gen subframe attached

-Staintune exhausts mounted

Next step is to relocate the rectifier and install the LED tail light on its way from Germany.

I will also be de-linking the front brakes, using Superhawk front forks and 6 piston calipers from a GSXR 1000. The rear shock will be swapped with JD CBR 929 unit, and the Shinkos will be replaced with some Pirelli Angel GTs.

The member you are looking for is 'tinkerinWstuff'. He is predominately over on VFRW but hasn't been as active as in past but he's still around. I actually got to see his bike first hand at the VFRW R3 event a couple years ago. He did an awesome job, especially considering what he started with!

http://vfrworld.com/forums/showthread.php/36725-T3-Tinks-Annual-Project-Bike-%28-98-VFR800%29

Cheers

Such a sharp looking combo of generations! Keeping the yellow?

FSAE

Such a sharp looking combo of generations! Keeping the yellow?

Yes I like the Y2K yellow. It will be a nice change from the red and the other panels and tank are in good shape. Apparently Honda yellow is extremely difficult to match, so my thought was to paint the tail section/ seat cowl gloss black with yellow decals. I plan to finish it off with gunmetal wheels.

The yellow has pearl-effect stuff in it, which is probably why it is considered impossible to match. I was pleased, however, to find that Honda has used the same paint on many other bikes--including some bikes with swappable forks, such as one of the 900RRs (and, I think, the Firestorm/SuperHawk). So I have a perfectly matching, Y124P front mudguard for my RC51 SP1 forks... There was never a Y124P VTEC, though, AFAIK.

Ciao,

The VFRd member who did the gen 5.5 was Frozen

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/56219-gen-55-full-how-to/?view=findpost&p=665717

Thanks Canuk!

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Veefer800Canuck

The VFRd member who did the gen 5.5 was Frozen

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/56219-gen-55-full-how-to/?view=findpost&p=665717

IIRC you will need the 6th gen tank for reasons I cannot recall... shame 'cause there are none in that impossible to copy yellow

The 5th gen tank fits fine. There is a small gap but I plan to use black vinyl around the base of the tank so its not nearly as noticable.

The yellow is not impossible to match. Stop listening to the internet, and find a good autobody shop.

I agree about the "stop listening to the web" but in this case the local autobody shop did say the same thing, that the yellow is nearly impossible to match. I am sure someone could do it but don't feel like the hassle of trying multiple times. I have a good vinyl guy that can make that gap look invisible. It will clean up the lines of the tank anyways, similar to the pic.

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I once brought a fender from a Pearl Sunbeam Yellow F4i to a local shop, and watched the guy mix a perfect match by hand. I was amazed.

All depends on where you go.

Plus, since you're not mating the parts panel to panel, you can be off a tad and never notice.

I'll stop badgering you now, I just like the yellow look vs a black tail, so I was urging you to branch out. :smile:

It look really nice with that undertail! Good luck with your project :cool:

It's not the only awkward paint colour; I tried to get some blue touch-up paint from an automotive paint supplier, and they said it wasn't as simple as one colour; it actually was three different coats, with the amount of purple and blue varying, followed by the gloss topcoats. So.... it's touched up in places with paint from my spousal-unit's last car, which isn't even remotely close. I shoulda just said to the guys at Smits ; "Bugger it; I don't care if it's not a perfect match, just give me some anyway.

take it to a place that uses

i have seen it match a 1 off custom mix to perfection..

you can also sand down a spot on your old tail to find the underlying paint colors. :beer: :fing02:

Or if a PPG shop is closer, their version is called the Prophet.

Thanks for all the advice guys. I am going to take another look at matching the yellow. Honestly I would prefer yellow and I always love a challenge.

If I end up with a set of 6th gen bags on it though, do you guys think that painting those yellow also will be too much or should I go with black on those?

My two cents; if you end up being able to match the tail section to the front bodywork, I'd go yellow hard bags, just go back to the same guy for paint. Otherwise matching the gunmetal of your wheels would look sharp.

Although I am confident you can find a match, another (more expensive) option you might consider, is picking up spare plastics and painting the entire bike worth of plastic the same color. Then an exact match won't matter and you'll have enough left over for touch-ups.

Sell your good stock panels to someone who crashed their bike.

Well I made good progress this week collecting parts for the next steps in the project. This week its time to dive into the electrical and upgrade and relocate the reg/rectifier, install the li-ion battery, install the VFR ness, and the GI Pro digital gear indicator.

I did however run into a small snag. To fit up the OEM Honda bags and bag mounts I need the rear fender. This is the rear support for the bags. I have hunted high and low on ebay and craigs list and not had any luck. Ifound one on ebay but the guy wants as much as they sell for new from Honda. the irony is that this is a part that alot of owners just take off and throw in the corner of the garage! So if anyone has one just laying around and taking up space, I could sure use it.

Otherwise I might be able to fab something up, but paying $100 for this part is not going to happen!

C'mob guys, lets not forget that Honda did a shite job of matching the yellow. On my '99 VFR there was a difference between the side panels and the front cowl. I assume it was due to the plastic not being totally opaque, but I never noticed a similar issue on my other VFRs.

Also, primer and prep can have a big effect on the paint job.

No, you don't need the fender. There is a bracket that the fender attaches to, but this part is replaced with a stronger piece in the bag mount kit.

Thanks Seb. I would really not have to run that ugly fender anyways!

I believe the install instructions are posted here in the manuals section. Go have a look and all should become clear.

Perfect. now that money can go to the Seb Cover, which will be the final touch!

Schwing! :goofy:

Making steady progress as of 2-5-15

The new regulator/ rectifier has been installed and relocated to the front of the bike. I went with a Shindengen MOSFET, along with the VFRness from Tightwad and a WPS li-ion battery.

The new 6th gen fuel tank arrived, and I am hoping that the 5th gen fuel pump and fuel level sensor work with it. If not I picked up a 6th gen fuel pump off ebay cheap.

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Yes the 5th gen fuel pump and fuel level sensor will work in the 6th gen tank.

I have done it.

Thanks! Looks like I have a spare pump!

Fuel cap as well.....

Got the Bags mounted today

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nice!

In order to break up the overkill factor of painting the entire bike and hardbags yellow... the old black wedge slice effect on the keel and bags works a treat (or gunmetal grey in your case due to the wheels)...

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Photochop is a blast!!

Auspanglish if that is your Photoshop effort, then accept my compliments, I had a to look twice to spot what had been done. The black screen/mirrors and wedge make for a great contrast to the yellow.

This is a great project db, other then adding the 400lbs of a 6th gen rear subframe! :unsure: I here the 8th gen subframes are a bunch lighter, source one of them too! :cool:

Baileyrock

This is a great project db, other then adding the 400lbs of a 6th gen rear subframe! :unsure: I here the 8th gen subframes are a bunch lighter, source one of them too! :cool:

True. Out of curiosity I will weigh the two subframes.

My prediction...

5th gen subframe...slightly heavier than the Titanic

6th gen subframe...slightly heavier than the Titanic but also with leo's frozen corpse still on board.

Found this on one of Tink's old posts... clearly I am boldly going where Tink went before ...although I am hoping to have an even better looking bike in the end :cheerleader:

6th gen subframe and inner fender with heat shield (not yet modified to fit 5th gen frame) = 16.8lbs

5th gen subframe and inner fender = 9.6lbs

7.2 lbs, even up high, isnt a huge deal to me on the street. I can lay off the MickeyD's for a few weeks and lose that. Even with the Staintune dual exhausts, it should'nt be that much heavier than stock.

Right delta.... Please post a picture of your scales with you on it and lets post the next one in 2 weeks... :-)

I need to drop about 10 lbs anyways Dutchy!

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Oh you know the way to Dutchy's heart :goofy:

Nice work. Makes me wonder what a 6G tail mated up to a 3G would look like? Photoshop anyone?

This weekend's progress.

Rear brake master cylinder installed- RC51

Front forks revalved and installed

RC51 oil cooler installed

Next up:

Fit GSXR calipers

Fit Braking front rotors

install brake line

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@ deltaboxii

I've always admired people with the skill set to do something like that. Great job. :fing02: I've only seen two other instances where somebody wanted a VFR motor (with gear driven cams) in a more modern-looking package and actually did something about it:

1) An Englishman on another forum removed the 6th gen.'s motor and replaced it with a 5th gen. motor. It was a lot of work but he pulled it off.

2) This is a 5th gen. VFR with an '04-'07 CBR subframe/exhaust/rear cowl and RC51 track plastics. A couple guys in Belgium built it.

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Thanks 2Fast. I should have some more progress this weekend. It won't be any lighter than a Gen 5 but should look more modern and sound pretty sick with the dual Staintunes and GDC. Not to mention the extra convenience of the Honda-Givi OEM bags.

The Belgium BioBlade was one of the coolest VFRs ever modified IMHO.

This week's progress:

- CBR 929 DMR Shock installed

- 6th Gen Fuel Tank mounted

- Painter matching silver paint

- GSXR 6 pistion calipers mounted up. New rotors not yet installed though.

I scored a brand new set of Throttlemeisters for $80 off CL.

Only real issue is the clearance of the Superhawk front fender. I will have to do more research to see how other guys shimmed it to fit on the SH forks.

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The VTR1000F forks are spaced closer together than on the VFR800F. SuperHawk is a straight swap on VFR750s because they have the same fork spacing. You may have to use the VFR800F front fender or something else from that era.

Ciao,

deltaboxii

This week's progress:

Only real issue is the clearance of the Superhawk front fender. I will have to do more research to see how other guys shimmed it to fit on the SH forks.

Did you use 5th gen triples or the SH triples?

PPG formulas for both the earlier VFR silver colors are listed in a thread here. Go to Google and search "PSA Paint VFRDiscussion", it will come up.

Nevermind, here you go: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/29748-public-service-announcement/

I have used most of them with good results, as shown in the thread.

mello dude

deltaboxii

This week's progress:

Only real issue is the clearance of the Superhawk front fender. I will have to do more research to see how other guys shimmed it to fit on the SH forks.

Did you use 5th gen triples or the SH triples?

5th Gen triples. Wondering if I need a set of SH triples?

deltaboxii

mello dude

deltaboxii

This week's progress:

Only real issue is the clearance of the Superhawk front fender. I will have to do more research to see how other guys shimmed it to fit on the SH forks.

Did you use 5th gen triples or the SH triples?

5th Gen triples. Wondering if I need a set of SH triples?

That would solve one problem, but present another: The 5th-gen wheel and discs are designed to fit between forks spaced 204mm apart. The VTR1000F (SuperHawk) and 3rd-4th-gen VFR750F forks are spaced 192mm apart. So you would have to use a narrower wheel and discs if you switched to VTR triples. For that reason, you're probably better off just fitting a different mudguard or fabricating some spacers to allow the used of the one you have.

FYI, other Hondas with 204mm fork spacing (and conventional forks) include: CBR600FX-4i, CBR600RR3-4, VFR800FiW-VTEC, CBR900RRN-V, CBR1100XXV-7. I'm sure there are others, but that should get you started...

Ciao,

Thanks for the info. If I had done my homework more I would have seen that Mellow Dude and others that have done the conversion simply used the stock fender with some homemade fabricated brackets. Looks like I wasted my money on the SH fender, glad I bought a cheap one off of fleabay.

JZH

deltaboxii

mello dude

deltaboxii

This week's progress:

Only real issue is the clearance of the Superhawk front fender. I will have to do more research to see how other guys shimmed it to fit on the SH forks.

Did you use 5th gen triples or the SH triples?

5th Gen triples. Wondering if I need a set of SH triples?

That would solve one problem, but present another: The 5th-gen wheel and discs are designed to fit between forks spaced 204mm apart. The VTR1000F (SuperHawk) and 3rd-4th-gen VFR750F forks are spaced 192mm apart. So you would have to use a narrower wheel and discs if you switched to VTR triples. For that reason, you're probably better off just fitting a different mudguard or fabricating some spacers to allow the used of the one you have.

FYI, other Hondas with 204mm fork spacing (and conventional forks) include: CBR600FX-4i, CBR600RR3-4, VFR800FiW-VTEC, CBR900RRN-V, CBR1100XXV-7. I'm sure there are others, but that should get you started...

Ciao,

So you think that a 6th Gen fender would work? I would prefer to use the 6th gen front fender as its a bit more modern looking.

deltaboxii

mello dude

deltaboxii

This week's progress:

Only real issue is the clearance of the Superhawk front fender. I will have to do more research to see how other guys shimmed it to fit on the SH forks.

Did you use 5th gen triples or the SH triples?

5th Gen triples. Wondering if I need a set of SH triples?

No, keep the 5th gen triples, if you use a 5th gen fender, I have backets for a direct bolt up. Check my gallery.

Much appreciated MD. I am surprised the 6th gen fender doesn't work, but you are the expert! The fender brackets will come in handy for sure.

The VTEC forks have larger tubes, but the lowers may be the same OD--I don't know. But you still have to deal with potentially different locations for the mounting bolts/brackets. Go with MD's brackets, as that is a proven solution.

Ciao,

This week's update-

A huge THANKS to Mike Mellow Dude for solving my front fender issue with the last of his front fender brackets. Beautiful workmanship. Thanks Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Braking front wave rotors are also installed.

Two new issues-

1) there is a small gap between the tank and the front of the seat. I was planning to have Saddlemen customize a seat for me, and I am hoping that they can add some additional material here to close the gap.

2) The left side between the seat and subframe exposes the battery. the other side looks fine with just the rear master cylinder reservoir. But the left side looks like crap and I would not want my battery sitting out in the open like that. So I will have to get creative with a cover since the stock Gen 6 battery cover most likely will not work. Since the subframe is steel, I should be able to get a tab welded on that would allow a push pin release.

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Assembly issues?

No problem. It looks like you can just ride one of your other bikes.

;-)

Those are unfortunately / fortunately not all mine... Depending on which way you look at it.

This week's progress:

- Stainless steel lines installed

- Brakes are now "delinked"

-CBR 929 braking master cylinder installed

-Braking (brand) Clutch master cylinder installed

- RC51 rear master cylinder installed

I can't wait to try the brakes on this VFR!

Next Up:

- Install GSXR turn signal mirrors

-Seat to Saddlemen for custom foam/ cover

- Replace all radiator hoses

-Bodywork off to the painter. We are going to fill in the turn signal holes (De-dumbo) and add some bodywork to the headlight area to give the impression of dual headlights vs. the stocker's big single headlight. My painter is itching to do some Plastic welding. see pic, please forgive my horrible photoshop skills

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deltaboxii

-Bodywork off to the painter. We are going to add some bodywork to the headlight area to give the impression of dual headlights vs. the stocker's big single headlight. My painter is itching to do some Plastic welding. see pic, please forgive my horrible photoshop skills

Oh, that will be an interesting new twist! :beer:

Latest update w gsxr Turn signal mirrors. Counting thr days down until it goes off to the painter.

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Paint scheme plan. Silver base. Gunmetal wing w red outline.

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My seat arrived today. I sent it off to Saddlemen back in March to be recovered and install the "touring foam". They also added a channel similar to what you would find on a bicycle seat to relive pressure. They call this "Gel Channel". It sure does look cool, especially with the suade. They did a wonderful job, were quick with their turnaround and very fair with their pricing. All of this for around the price of a new Corbin or Sargent seat.

They were also kind enough to add some additional foam to the front of the seat to eliminate the gap between the new 6th gen tank and the subframe. I am headed to the shop tomorrow to see how it looks on the bike and check the fit.

A few other members have gone the Saddlemen route and are reporting that their seats are extremely comfortable even on all day rides. Time will tell but I don't see any reason to doubt them.

As far as custom work goes, they really can do just about anything that you want. Custom embroidery, stitching, colors, heights, even add a heater. I worked with Anne there and she and Tom were super friendly and extremely knowledgeable.

http://www.saddlemen.com/

Want a personalized seat? Check Saddlemen's Sportbike or Adventure TRACK listings, find the seat application for your motorcycle, select the cover material and thread color and call us with your needs. We'll build your seat just the way you want it - and if you want it even more custom, we can do that too!

Potential buyers with concerns about comfort, seating position and styling can contact our knowledgeable sales staff at our California offices and factory. A brief conversation can answer many questions, and provide a basis for creating a seat for the best ride possible. We can also discuss all of the available options for cover materials, stitching and ornamentation.
To order or for consultation, our experienced Sales Department representatives can be reached from 8:00 AM until 4:00 PM Pacific time Monday to Friday at (800) 397-7709.

Thanks Saddlemen!

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I saw that channel design on a 7th gen last year and I am convinced that is what mine needs. I would be very interested in your review of it!

deltaboxii

My seat arrived today. I sent it off to Saddlemen back in March to be recovered and install the "touring foam". They also added a channel similar to what you would find on a bicycle seat to relive pressure. They call this "Gel Channel". It sure does look cool, especially with the suade. They did a wonderful job, were quick with their turnaround and very fair with their pricing. All of this for around the price of a new Corbin or Sargent seat.

They were also kind enough to add some additional foam to the front of the seat to eliminate the gap between the new 6th gen tank and the subframe. I am headed to the shop tomorrow to see how it looks on the bike and check the fit.

A few other members have gone the Saddlemen route and are reporting that their seats are extremely comfortable even on all day rides. Time will tell but I don't see any reason to doubt them.

As far as custom work goes, they really can do just about anything that you want. Custom embroidery, stitching, colors, heights, even add a heater. I worked with Anne there and she and Tom were super friendly and extremely knowledgeable.

http://www.saddlemen.com/

Saddlemen Gel Channel Custom Program

Want a personalized seat? Check Saddlemen's Sportbike or Adventure TRACK listings, find the seat application for your motorcycle, select the cover material and thread color and call us with your needs. We'll build your seat just the way you want it - and if you want it even more custom, we can do that too!

Potential buyers with concerns about comfort, seating position and styling can contact our knowledgeable sales staff at our California offices and factory. A brief conversation can answer many questions, and provide a basis for creating a seat for the best ride possible. We can also discuss all of the available options for cover materials, stitching and ornamentation.

To order or for consultation, our experienced Sales Department representatives can be reached from 8:00 AM until 4:00 PM Pacific time Monday to Friday at (800) 397-7709.

Thanks Saddlemen!

Nice seat , let us know how it rides

Roll On ... .

The bodywork is at the painter now. The painter was super pumped to use his new plastic welder. We have added some plastic in between the headlights to give the bike a more aggressive, modern look. It's also kind of my homage to the 90-93 and '94-'97 VFRs that had the same "dual headlight" trick. Which was really a single headlight under the split headlight openings. The 1990 VFR was my introduction to the VFR madness, lusting after a red one with gold wheels every day when I worked at Midlothian Honda. And the first VFR that I ever had the chance to ride (and have been hooked on since) was a 4th gen. So I thought it would be cool to flash back to those older models.

We also used the Thurn covers to glass over the turn signal openings. It helped make the process easier, although it could have been done without them. But I already had them so... Turn signal de-dumbo-ing complete.

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deltaboxii

They call this "Gel Channel". It sure does look cool, especially with the suade.

I'd call it the flatulence channel....

Extra horsepower???

Meanwhile...At the painter

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I like the headlight aperture mod, looking forward to seeing the bike in paint.

The decals arrived today. Special thanks to VFRD forum member DALLASB (Dallas) for his assistance in creating these awesome custom decals.

Shameless plug- if you are interested in any of these decals Dallas can be reached at dallasbrandt@gmail.com

Creating decals isn't his only job he just does this as a hobby and enjoys helping fellow VFRD members. Thanks Dallas!!!

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So any new pictures yet? I'm thinking of doing this to mine!

What did the parts needed cost you? I've not seen any of those come up here and eBay is all over the place with questionable quality.

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Hey RW,

Here is the most recent facebook post from TT Deisgnz. Looks like we should be reassembling the bodywork soon.

Which parts are you specifically interested in for pricing? I kept a pretty detailed spreadsheet of the costs involved in the project, it would shock you how much it cost even with buying many of the parts off of eBay. I have been fortunate enough to have a good mechanic helping me with the project that isn't putting me over a barrel for labor costs and knows what he is doing. Even with that, the cost of the project will probably scare you off!

thanks for your interest!

Erik

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deltaboxii

Hey RW,

Here is the most recent facebook post from TT Deisgnz. Looks like we should be reassembling the bodywork soon.

Which parts are you specifically interested in for pricing? I kept a pretty detailed spreadsheet of the costs involved in the project, it would shock you how much it cost even with buying many of the parts off of eBay. I have been fortunate enough to have a good mechanic helping me with the project that isn't putting me over a barrel for labor costs and knows what he is doing. Even with that, the cost of the project will probably scare you off!

thanks for your interest!

Erik

The 6th gem tail conversion. It looks like subframe, fairing, seat, wiring, tail light, and exhaust is the key parts needed, right? With tank being a "it can work" kind of part. Is that right? I've done some conversions and a lot of mechanical work in the past, just very little motorcycle experience.

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In short, you will need:

6th gen:

subframe and battery tray

Rear fender not required but helpful

Seat (needs to be modified slightly to be "right"- Saddlemen did that for me)

tail light

exhaust

rear cowling/ seat cowl

passenger grab rails or cowl inserts if you don't want the grab rails on

Fuel tank if you want the subframe/ seat/ tank to line up right (then you will need another pump possibly)

Move the seat latch

Move the master cylinder for the rear brake

Move the Regulator /rectifier and other wiring

Passenger pegs (if you want those also)

6th gen bags- to me it seems like that was half the point of doing this, to fit the factory Givi OEM luggage to a 5th gen rather than Givi aftermarket or soft bags

I used some parts off of ebay, some off of Craigslist and some new. I got lucky with the Staintune 6th gen and found one in great shape used on CL for only $400. My rough guess on the cost of everything, minus the labor would put it at around $2000 including repainting the tank, bags and rear cowling to match. That's also with the exhaust, a (used) tank, (used) Honda OEM bags and mounts, a Thurn clear LED tail light (the HOnda ones aren't cheap either), a used subframe, passenger pegs, and rear cowling and battery tray off of flea-bay.

Yep, not cheap even if you are bargain hunting.

Here's a detailed list of everything that I did for modifications. Basically I wanted to build the 5th Gen that Honda should have upgraded the VFR to as a successor to the 5th gen, with OEM luggage capability, more modern suspension, bodywork, brakes, and underseat exhaust.

Repaint Bags and passenger pegs Staintune exhaust 99 Header pipes PSR footpegs black Decals Clear Tank pad 90 degree valve stems Metzeler M7RR tires Grips Superhawk front forks Front fender mounts CBR 929 shock LED headlight kit Updated Regulator PAIR block off valve 8 Spoke rear wheel 6th gen tail section/ seat cowl/ plates 6th gen clear tail light 6th gen subframe and battery tray Honda VFR trim panels 6th gen fuel tank Power Commander 3 Saddlemen seat Digital Gear indicator Spark Plugs NGK Throttlemeister Factory Shift Kit K&N Air filter Voltmeter New battery Stainless brake / Clutch lines CBR 929 radial master cylinder GSXR 1000 brake pads 2001 2002 Braking clutch master cylinder Braking Rotors 32-6105L/ 32-6105R VFR ness Honda radiator hoses new screen Thurn turn signal block off kit Powdercoat wheels/ pegs/ bar ends/ pipe GSXR mirrors Sebspeed clear cover gsxr 6 piston brakes 2001 2002 chain sprockets/ regear

Getting closer

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What's with the teaser picture? Only one angle and wonky lighting, come on man...

Friend sent it to me. I am out of town.

Nice color! Looks close to factory (non-USA), but as mentioned not great lighting. I grabbed a set of lightly rashed Canadian Silver at one point, but it didn't survive my lack of riding ability...

Liking the center strip. Kinda F4i-ish? That what I'm thinking of? Triumph?

Nice dumbo delete. As with mine, I find it hard to notice because it just looks right, like it should have come from the factory!

Thanks Kev. Yes I am sorry about the pic quality and lighting. My friend snapped the photo for me since I have been out of town and working like crazy. Better pics to follow soon I promise.

That was exactly what I was thinking on the silver. I always liked that Euro/ Canadian color option and it's too bad that Honda never offered it here in the US. The yellow will always be a favorite and I may go back to it someday. The center strip was just to give it a more aggressive look to the front. Combined with the dumbo delete, GSXR mirrors and LED headlights the front end will be JUST different enough from the standard fairing.

I can't wait to see it fired up...to see that Sebspeed clutch cover working and hear those Staintunes roaring. This has been an agonizing wait.

Getting closer to the end...I am hoping that we are wrapped up with this project next week!

I am really pleased with how the seat turned out from Saddlemen. perfect fit and we put the seat release in a really easy to get to spot.

The GSXR mirrors turned out to be a major pain but we got them to work with ZX6R mounts and some trimming / swearing/ beer.

Just a few things Still left to do:

- install new grips

-install new footpegs

- finish hanging bodywork

- tidy up the subframe / battery cover area

- install decals

- trim front fairing near tank - the fairing contacts the larger 6th gen fuel tank

-install Throttlemeister

I am loving the Sebspeed cover with the red finish. The clear rear tail light and turn signals also look pretty sick with the silver bodywork.

the bodywork still needs to be buffed, so please don't judge that its not the best looking at this point.

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Can you use spacers between the fairing brackets and frame, to distance the fairing from the tank?

Mmmm . . . lookin' good! I'm sure you'll get some double takes from the unsuspecting. 'Nice 5th gen - no, wait it's a 6h . . . uh, no - wait - what's going on with this?'

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Can you use spacers between the fairing brackets and frame, to distance the fairing from the tank?

Good idea, we will try that before we start trimming bodywork. Thanks!

I had to trim the bodywork to clear the 6th gen tank.

I'll dig up a link for you.

Page 3 of my GET BENT!!! Rebuild thread:

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/57801-get-bent/page-3

Here are some pics of the right side, now that the lower has been installed. We had to trim the fairing slightly to clear the Sebspeed cover. We also had to trim the upper fairings where they meet the tank.

The Thurn tail light looks really nice. I will have to get a hugger otherwise when I ride in the rain I am going to look like a jet ski...and my back will be wearing whatever crud gets kicked up. Don't ask me how I know this.

The Lifetime LEDs are stupid bright. Hopefully they work as good as they look. Along with the Rigid SRMs (an amber cover will be replacing the black), cagers will really have to try to not see me.

Took the bike for its maiden run. Even though we downloaded my map from my other 5th gen, it looks like it is a bit weak on roll ons / midrange. So I will have to get some dyno time to perfect the fueling. As least the map that's in it now will give us a good baseline to start from.

Wednesday we are buffing the paint and then installing the decals. After that I am really hoping to enjoy riding the bike for the next month or so...winter is approaching fast. Too fast. It has almost been 1 year since I started this project. I hope that its worth it in the end.

Down the road, when I get the chance I will be powdercoating the cylinder head covers red. I think with the subtle red in the Sebspeed cover, the seat, decals (not on yet obviously) and grips, some red poking out of the engine area would look really nice against the silver and black bodywork.

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If that bike were a cocktail, everyone at the bar would be ordering one. Start with a 5th gen, add a generous helping of 6th, a shot of 3rd, some VTR & RC51, a bit of GXSR and some custom touches. Place in a cocktail shaker and mix, then paint to taste. It truly is the bike Honda should have built. Can't wait to see it with the graphics. Very well done!

Good god that bike is sexy as hell.

Thanks guys... I hope that it goes as nice as it looks!

Freakin' gorgeous.

All it needs now is vtec upper and sides, and USD fork swap :wink:

Ha, I will save all of that for the track bike build that I am considering doing! I. Must. Stop. Though...

The 6th gen upper is beautiful, but I actually prefer the upper/ side fairings from the 5th gen overall.

I almost went the route of USD forks, but found for more than double the cost I wouldn't really notice the improvements over a DMR tuned Superhawk front fork.

I think that's the first time I've seen a close up of the silver paint. Wow! Up close that is stunning!

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I think that's the first time I've seen a close up of the silver paint. Wow! Up close that is stunning!

Same here, it surprised me. I really had no idea that the Honda silver ('02 I believe) had so MUCH metalflake in it.

Installed the graphics and 3d Honda OEM emblems tonight. The emblems were painted black.

I want to make some minor mods to the other graphics, so no pictures of the upper/ front... but here are a couple of "teaser" shots :goofy:

That's not a scratch in the second pic, not sure what the lighting picked up!

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Rode the bike out to Mounds Performance in Anderson IN today and had Phil run it on his Dynojet dyno.

The blue line is the Hybrid 5.5 Y2k model, the red line is my '01. The Hybrid and '01 have the same mods, with the exception of Staintune undertail exhausts on the Hybrid and an Akrapovic slip -on installed on the '01. The Hybrid has a 16t front sprocket while the '01 has stock gearing.

Max Hp- 104.68

Max torque- 55.81

Not too bad. The rideability is amazing now, the biggest improvement seems to be in torque and the smoothness.

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Tell us about the clutch cover

Sebspeed makes them for us. Quality piece. All I did was paint the cover after he returned it and powdercoated the pressure plate so it stood out. just ship him your old cover and he takes care of it from there. He made a post at the top of the page, you can PM him for pricing and timeframe.

Getting to the final stages of the project.

We covered up the holes in the cowling by drilling the OEM grab rail plates out. Looks much cleaner!

I noticed that the right side of the bike would get a bit toasty by the mid pipe. Over the winter I plan to ceramic coat the mid pipe (header already done) in silver. We drilled out the heat shield and used an air cleaner grill to give it a custom look. The "V" shape was a nice touch I thought.

The rear brake master cylinder reservoir looked a bit rough so a Honda Shadow metal cover cleaned it up. Some minor cutting involved but went on easy.

We used the battery cover from a 6th gen to clean up the left side. Looks pretty OEM.

The RC51 calipers are awesome.

Left to do over the winter: Down to the final few items!

Ceramic coat the mid pipe

Powdercoat the cylinder head covers red

Install heated grips and powdercoat the heli bars to match the triple clamp

Find a suitable hugger!

Speedo Healer and Quick Shifter

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Looks fantastic

Definitely nice.

The little custom touches are usually the difference between a nice-looking and a REALLY nice-looking bike.

I'm torn on the wheel color. It goes so well with the overall theme, but it downplays the 8-spoke.

I'm generally not a fan of red wheels, but I wonder how a darker red would look on the rims.

Engine/ Transmission

• Staintune Exhaust for 6th Gen
• 98-'99 Headers- Ceramic Coated
• K&N Air Filter
• PAIR Block Off Valve
• Power Commander PC III with Dyno Tune from Mounds Motorsports
• New NGK Iridium Spark Plugs
• New Radiator Hoses-Honda OEM
• Sebspeed Clear Clutch Cover
• Factory Pro Evo Shift Kit
• 15T Countershaft Sprocket
• Sunstar Gold Chain/ Black Sprocket

Bodywork/ Appearance

• CBR Style Headlight Conversion-Fiberglass
• MRA Double Bubble- Dark Smoke
• CREE LED Headlights
• GSXR 750 Turn Signals w/ LED bulbs
• 6th Gen VFR 800 LED Tail Light- Dark Smoke
• 6th Gen Subframe/ Tail Section and Seat Cowl
• Honda OEM Silver Paint 2003 VFR 800
• Thurn Turn Signal Delete- "De Dumbo"
• Tech Spec Tank Pads- Clear
• 6th Gen Fuel Tank
• Powdercoated Wheels/ Bag Mounts/ Triple Tree Gunmetal
• Custom Decals by DallasB V4/ RC46
• OEM VFR and Interceptor 3d emblems- painted black
• Powdercoated Cylinder Head Covers Red
• Powdercoated Clutch Pressure Plate Red

Suspension/ Brakes/ Tires

• CBR 929 Shock- DMR
• Superhawk Forks- DMR Tuned
• Delinked OEM brakes
• Braking VFR 800 Front Brake Rotors
• RC51 Front Calipers
• Braking Radial Brake Master Cylinder- 16MM
• Braking Radial Clutch Master Cylinder- 13MM
• RC51 Rear Brake Master Cylinder
• Galfer Stainless Steel Brake Lines
• EBC HH Pads
• Metzeler M7RR Tires
• Honda VFR 750 8 Spoke Rear Wheel
• 90 Degree Valve Stems

Electrical

• VFR ness
• Shindengen Mosfet Regulator FH020AA
• DigiProDigital Gear Shift Indicator
• ADV Monster Voltmeter
• WPS Lithium Battery
• HealTech Speedo Healer
• HealTech Quick Shifter

Comfort

• Saddlemen Custom 6th Gen VFR 800 Seat
• Throttlemeister Throttle Lock
• 6th Gen Honda VFR 800 Footpegs
• Honda OEM 6th Gen Saddlebags w/ Bag Liners
• KanadianKen Top Case Mount
• Givi Blade 46 Litre Top Case w/ Brake Light / Backrest Pad
• Spyder Grips
• Heat Demon Heated Grip Warmers
• Heli Bars
• Heat Shield Drilled Out
• RAM GPS Mount for Garmin Zumo
• TPX Laser Radar Detector
• Relocated OEM Helmet Holder to Bag Mount

It may not look like a major build, but here is a list of the mods.

Many thanks to the following peeps for all of their help, technical advice, and expertise!

• Kevin Lueder and Matt from Fatty's Cycles in Fortville IN- thanks for putting up with me for the last few years on these builds
• Phil at Mounds Motorsports in Anderson IN for the spot on dyno tuning- 104 rwhp!
• Tim of TT Designz for the bodywork modifications, repairs and paintwork
• Mike "MellowDude" for some very helpful brackets and tech advice
• Tom and Anne Seymour of Saddlemen for the best saddle I have ever ridden on, bar none
• Seb for the bitchin' looking clutch cover
• My wife, Nikki, for all the times she had to stop and give her opinion when it all probably looked the same to her
• Dallas Brandt (DallasB)for his help with the decals
• Jamie Daugherty for all of his suspension expertise and tuning [image: address.jpg]
• All of the VFRD members that were kind enough to take time out of their day to give me advice and share their knowledge
• Hope that I didn't miss anyone!

It was a fun project but I am very Glad that it's pretty much done and over. Would I do it again? No, I would just buy an Aprilia RSV4 and find a way to fit some damn bags on it!!!

Really nice work and attention to detail! Well done! :beer:

Honda would do well to study what you've built here.

Excellent work, I'm jealous. Bravo Zulu.

Are you bringing this masterpiece to 2016 T-Mac? I hope!

for sure Terry! Just putting some finishing touches on it over the winter. Thanks my friend I appreciate the kind words on the build.

I just had the cylinder heads powdercoated red to match the clutch pressure plate. It will tie into the clear Seb cover nicely. I also just powdercoated the heli bars to match the triple trees. Their clashing color finishes were driving me nuts!!!

I think those red cylinder heads are the coolest. Love them. I can't wait to see and hear that work of art.

Should have some pics soon I hope!

The weather broke enough for me to get the bike out of the garage for some pictures showing off the red cylinder heads. The red on the pressure plate and cylinder heads is a brighter red in person. I think it ties in with the Saddlemen custom seat, decals and Seb's clear clutch cover/ red pressure plate nicely. It seems to break up all of the silver and black.

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Just awesome... you've made a perfect mashup of VFR's, and it looks great

Looks great, well done.

Veefer800Canuck

Honda would do well to study what you've built here.

Excellent work, I'm jealous. Bravo Zulu.

And the really cool thing is that its right down Honda's alley....parts bin stuff. Awesome job for sure! Looking forward to seeing it this spring.

Looks great! It does remind me of a 6th gen that hit a wall head on, lol

Amazing attention to detail. I'm very impressed.

Great lookin bike. You wouldn't happen to have more info on the fork mounted driving lights would you? I found your post about em from 2014, but no beam shots or details on how you got em mounted up. Anything to light up deer eyes...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/79882-rigid-ind-dually-led-install/page-2#entry979216

They are Rigid SRM spots. You can purchase a separate amber cover which just clips on. The cover is great for low visibility fog conditions. The Rigids are expensive but include the wiring harness and waterproof switch. Not to mention they are damn near indestructible. I mounted a set on my '07 RWB as well. I used to wear hi vis jackets but drivers still wouldn't see me. I can't tell you how many times people have started to pull out in front of me then seen the fork LED lights and stopped. They work.

deltaboxii

They are Rigid SRM spots. You can purchase a separate amber cover which just clips on. The cover is great for low visibility fog conditions. The Rigids are expensive but include the wiring harness and waterproof switch. Not to mention they are damn near indestructible. I mounted a set on my '07 RWB as well. I used to wear hi vis jackets but drivers still wouldn't see me. I can't tell you how many times people have started to pull out in front of me then seen the fork LED lights and stopped. They work.

DBii, do you have part numbers? I'd like to do something about those hooved forest rats that hide on the edge of the roads.

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These are the WPS part numbers. Any dealer that orders from WPS can get them from their street or ATV catalog.

I used the SRM spots. These are sold individually and you will also need to order the Amber model if you want the yellow cover. Yes, they are not cheap. But IMHO Yes, they are worth it if they don't crap out after a year and help keep you from getting hit from a cager or a deer.

I'd love to see some detail pics of the mounting to the forks. Do you think they'd work of fifth gen oem forks?

Another question: do the lights move (relative to the ground) with the wheel or with the frame(the rest of the bike) over bumps and such?

Hey MW,

I just mounted them on the reflector mounts. So they move with the fork. They should work fine on 5th gen fork lowers with the standard reflector mount. The lights are not that heavy and easy to wire up.

Spring time pics w/ chrome effect. I have had a chance now to put about 2500 miles on her so far this spring. The new Pirelli Rosso IIIs are phenomenal. If they didn't warm up so quickly I would swear they were track tires.

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Spring time pics w/ chrome effect. I have had a chance now to put about 2500 miles on her so far this spring. The new Pirelli Rosso IIIs are phenomenal. If they didn't warm up so quickly I would swear they were track tires.

Erik,

Please put me #1 on the list to contact when you decide to sell that bike. :beer: