Squeezed out of lane twice in 3 minutes

Spend a week or two riding around the northeast.  It'll help reset your butthurt baseline.

wait who squeezed you out of your lane? I didn't see anything risky, well besides slowing down so much in the "corners" got to watch out you don't get rear ended doing that.

Beautiful day to ride GG!  Blue, White, Green, so clean!  Around here, it's more like Black, Brown, and Gray...  Blech!   lol

People are HUA everywhere you go...  :(

1 hour ago, 3dcycle

wait who squeezed you out of your lane? I didn't see anything risky, well besides slowing down so much in the "corners" got to watch out you don't get rear ended doing that.

Hmmm...I can see maybe missing the CR-V, but if you seriously didn't see the giant 18 wheeler squeezing into my lane at 80 mph then I'd recommend you visit an eye doctor ASAP before you get yourself in an accident  :tongue:

1 hour ago, Samuelx

Beautiful day to ride GG!  Blue, White, Green, so clean!  Around here, it's more like Black, Brown, and Gray...  Blech!   lol

People are HUA everywhere you go...  :(

Yeah I had a lot of fun speeding around on those Disney roads - they are so well maintained and super smooooooth!

You really should leave the invisibility cloak at home when out for a ride. :) 

5 hours ago, Rectaltronics

Spend a week or two riding around the northeast.  It'll help reset your butthurt baseline.

No thanks - way too many potholes up there!  I would probably crash my baby in just a few miles  :tongue:    Also, it takes way more than that to hurt my butt - especially since my bike didn't suffer a scratch.  Although I was going way over the speed limit I was riding very defensively (wait, is that an oxymoron? LOL).   Therefore I think I had pretty good reaction time to the lane squeezers and was able to get out of their way.  My purpose in posting this vid was just to remind folks that we are invisible to cagers and to ride accordingly.

There should be no surprises coming your way from big trucks.

You can see them coming a mile away, and they don't handle worth a bleep, ie are predictable.

3 hours ago, thepretender

You really should leave the invisibility cloak at home when out for a ride. :) 

LOL - I'm reminded of a crash compilation video I saw recently where a dude on a bike got hit by a cager despite the fact his bike was lit up like a freaking Christmas tree!  If I can find that vid I'll post it here.  I probably should have kept my high beams on - might have helped although I really don't think it would have made any difference to the 18 wheeler and CR-V.  In their defense I was going way over the speed limit and approaching them pretty fast from behind and at an angle.

Edit:  here's the vid I mentioned above - Christmas tree bike is the very first crash.

39 minutes ago, GatorGreg

No thanks - way too many potholes up there!  I would probably crash my baby in just a few miles  :tongue:    Also, it takes way more than that to hurt my butt - especially since my bike didn't suffer a scratch.  Although I was going way over the speed limit I was riding very defensively (wait, is that an oxymoron? LOL).   Therefore I think I had pretty good reaction time to the lane squeezers and was able to get out of their way.  My purpose in posting this vid was just to remind folks that we are invisible to cagers and to ride accordingly.

Funny you should say that - here's a FB post from a friend of mine just a couple of hours ago...

"Hit a bad pothole that actually hurt by back."

Yeah, we're invisible.

Sorry, I just found your meter a bit sensitive, that's all.

Ride safe,

Brad

I saw both cars but come on your where not squeezed as I saw it, maybe it felt that way while doing 80 in a junction. Watching your video I could see him merging as soon as I saw the truck, maybe get your eyes checked or try to ride with out the drama for the camera. Just a thought.

Looks like an autobahn country. You need a hayabusa for these roads:)

57 minutes ago, 3dcycle

I saw both cars but come on your where not squeezed as I saw it, maybe it felt that way while doing 80 in a junction. Watching your video I could see him merging as soon as I saw the truck, maybe get your eyes checked or try to ride with out the drama for the camera. Just a thought.

I think you need a bigger monitor - just a thought  :tongue:    The 18 wheeler was already on Interstate 4 / 417 - he was not "merging".  It was I who was merging onto Interstate 4 / 417 from World Drive (a Disney road).  The truck decided to get out of his lane and squeeze into my lane, which forced me out of my lane and into the far right lane.  It's very simple - I'm not sure what's so difficult for you to comprehend here.  Obviously there was no "drama" because I was alert and saw him doing it in time to get out of his way.  Next time I'll be sure to just let the truck side-swipe me and turn me into road pizza so as to provide you with more drama - LOL.

4 hours ago, GatorGreg

LOL - I'm reminded of a crash compilation video I saw recently where a dude on a bike got hit by a cager despite the fact his bike was lit up like a freaking Christmas tree!  If I can find that vid I'll post it here.  I probably should have kept my high beams on - might have helped although I really don't think it would have made any difference to the 18 wheeler and CR-V.  In their defense I was going way over the speed limit and approaching them pretty fast from behind and at an angle.

Edit:  here's the vid I mentioned above - Christmas tree bike is the very first crash.

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Hey Gator ya makin me feel sick, man there's a lot we can all learn from these stuff ups, and the most important one is this. "Stay Upright and If You Can't, Lay Down Next to Someone Nice", just like the guy at 3:56, he knew exactly what he was doin, there was good reason for a gentle low side, man what a view ! LOL.

Cheers.

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23 minutes ago, Nelix

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Funny but cruel!  :biggrin:

5 hours ago, Grum

Hey Gator ya makin me feel sick, man there's a lot we can all learn from these stuff ups, and the most important one is this. "Stay Upright and If You Can't, Lay Down Next to Someone Nice", just like the guy at 3:56, he knew exactly what he was doin, there was good reason for a gentle low side, man what a view ! LOL.

Cheers.

Yeah that poor guy must have thought he had died and gone to heaven  :tongue:  

Watching the video he clearly had his blinker on to move over, I assume for the up coming exit. Granted he could have waited longer into the merge before moving over. I say both at fault here. He was not expecting a bike to be coming onto the highway at 80, and Had you not been doing 80 while merging on to highway you would have seen this, and there would have been plenty of room for everyone with out having to yell for the camera. 

2 hours ago, 3dcycle

Watching the video he clearly had his blinker on to move over, I assume for the up coming exit. Granted he could have waited longer into the merge before moving over. I say both at fault here. He was not expecting a bike to be coming onto the highway at 80, and Had you not been doing 80 while merging on to highway you would have seen this, and there would have been plenty of room for everyone with out having to yell for the camera. 

Yep, you got me officer - I was speeding and it definitely contributed to the problem.  That's one reason I was not too surprised about either driver not seeing me.  I think I may have muttered "fucking truck" under my breath and I might have even given the CR-V driver a dirty look - LOL - but I hardly think that constitutes "having to yell for the camera" as you put it.  I'm not sure what point you are trying to make?  Again, my only point was to provide a friendly reminder to folks that we are invisible to cagers.

I'm also a bit confused by your hypocrisy because in your post above you claimed I was being "risky" for "slowing down so much" for the curves that I would get "rear ended"  :tongue:    This despite the fact I was still going about twice the speed limit for the curves - the posted speed limit for the 270 degree off ramp curve was only 25mph for example.  I've seen enough motovlog and crash compilation vids (see example I just posted above) to know that speeding excessively on curves can lead to having a "fucked up day" as CycleCruza likes to say  :tongue:   Since you're obviously a traffic expert maybe you can please share with the forum precisely how many mph over the speed limit we should be riding so as to avoid getting rear ended while still remaining plainly visible to the traffic ahead?

10 hours ago, Tiutis

Looks like an autobahn country. You need a hayabusa for these roads:)

I agree it would be awesome fun to have a Hayabusa on those roads but we do have speed limits unfortunately so I try not to go much over 100mph - so I actually think the VFR is the perfect bike for me.  I already had my license suspended for 30 days for speeding - if I got a Busa it would probably be permanently revoked  :tongue:    

You could always take a riding trip to the UK? That would make any road feel fast!

This isn't me (I'm on the other side of London) but it's incredibly similar to 30 miles (50 miles one day last week) of my ride home. I try and stick to around 30mph but do occasionally get grumpy and speed it up a bit..

50 minutes ago, Katie

You could always take a riding trip to the UK? That would make any road feel fast!

This isn't me (I'm on the other side of London) but it's incredibly similar to 30 miles (50 miles one day last week) of my ride home. I try and stick to around 30mph but do occasionally get grumpy and speed it up a bit..

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LOL - perfect song choice for the end of that vid!  One very odd thing I noticed (although I did skim through it) is that I don't think I saw ANY pickup trucks on the road there whereas here in Fla it seems like 1 out of every 4 vehicles is a pickup - things are very different here!

I feel bad for your commute Katie - I can somewhat relate because I had a job for about 10 years where I had to drive about 45-50 minutes each way in hectic traffic and it was very stressful.   I count my blessings every day that I live and work in the suburbs now and only have about an 8 mile drive each way - I actually look forward now to my commute if you can imagine that.   Here's a vid I did of my commute to work on my old PCX150 scooter - ironically it's also kind of appropriate to the theme of this thread because I almost got side-swiped by a cager at the 3:45 mark  :tongue:

Not a traffic expert at all, my first post was simply stating that after watching your video the greatest risk to you was another racer rear ending you when you slowed for a ramp. 

As far as the speeds are concerned I could care less about your safety riding is a risk and we all choose to ride regardless of the risk. The more you increase your speed the more you risk injury. Now this does not mean I wish you or anybody else injury, but if you do get hurt I will not lose sleep over it, I totaled my bike while living on Orlando doing the same shit you are doing just s tad faster. A car swerved in front of me. Still my fault for going too fast.

so keep driving that way I don't really care, take responsibility for your actions. This post should say while riding too fast cars merge in front of me..

I didn't see anything close to being "squeezed out of lane". The truck had his turn signal on indicating he was going to change lanes, you come up really fast on the right. If you had been aware of your surroundings you would have seen the turn signals and not been surprised when he moved over. 

The CRV didn't give much warning but plenty of distance, and the lanes were clearly marked "Exit Only" so it was an excellent possibility that he was coming over at some point. You shouldn't have been surprised again.

But maybe our definitions are much different. I consider being squeezed out of a lane to occur when the car is either beside me, or directly in front of me, and comes over with no warning, and no reason. You had tons of time, lots of space, another lane to move into, and no squeezing that I saw.

1 hour ago, Lee 2002

Don't lump me in, I do not agree.   While the semi-tractor and the CR-V were in violation of the letter-of-the-law, so was Gator by his own admission of speeding.  Gator inserted himself into both his percieved situations.

As I pointed out with my still captures and text, I believe that the intentions of the other vehicles in both instances was clear.   If not by signal, by action and situation.   In both cases, Gator continued to accelerate into a position that had become occupied by the other vehicle some distance ahead of him or was clearly about to become occupied.

I firmly stand by my assessment of surprised/butt-hurt as correctly defined by FJ12.  In my experience, the only times I've turned my head to look sideways at a vehicle I'm passing is to make visual communication with the other driver (butt-hurt), evaluate unexpected motion noticed during my scan (surprised), or to assess the physical attributes of the female driver (I'm male).  I have, on rare occasion, turned my head to admire an especially rare/beautiful/old vehicle.  For me, a CR-V does not meet my criteria, Gator can list the reasons he turns his head.  I'm convinced he was establishing visual communication with the other driver regarding their actions.

JZH is correct.  Neither of these incidents even comes close to getting sqeezed out of a lane.    Again, by experience, I've had 14 and 15 year old children do a better job reading traffic and intention and reacting better during their instructional period.   As I see it, both of these situations required nothing more that rolling off throttle and maybe a covering of the brake lever.

 

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Dude we are just quoting the obvious--- you set yourself up all the time.

Not putting you down, and if that's what you take from all the responses as in butthurt---

Wish the best for ya

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2 hours ago, GatorGreg

Precisely.  There's no legal definition of the phrase "squeezed out of lane" and no one here has it copyrighted AFAIK.   I used it in a reasonable manner.  Obviously if a person suffers from having to commute and lane split in a hell hole (like LA for example) I would expect them to have a different perspective on what "squeezed out of lane" means.

Yes, LA is Hell Hole, everybody stay away, nothing to see here, please disperse...and take all of the others clamoring to be here with you when you go!

Been there, didn't lose anything while I was there so no need to go back. California has some nice stuff, LA isn't part of it.

2 hours ago, FJ12Ryder

I didn't say they were in violation of anything, I said they were in the wrong.

I equivocated your "in the wrong" statement with "at fault".   Which is why I replied "Don't lump me in", because I contend that Gator is fully responsible for what he perceives as encroachment into his lane.  I now understand that is not what you meant.  This is why I pointed out that, yes, the drivers violated the law but I don't feel they have any ownership of his perceptions.  My apologies for reading between the lines.

I stand by my assertion that Gator seems to feel a lane is his from his location to the horizon and he is not responsible for reacting to the dynamic situation in front of him.   The key words being "in front of him", none of this happened to his side other than he accelerated into the space that was either already occupied or in the act of being occupied.   I think my post, #1066888 did an excellent job of illustrating this, if I don't say so myself.

There were still a few outstanding questions regarding Gator's riding experience and why he turned his head to the CR-V driver if not to establish visual communication that I was hoping he would answer.   But I see that he has went into Meme Mode.  That is a shame.   

 Don't ride in other vehicles blind spots. Pass them with extreme prejudice, and get on with your life. Problem solved. 

Lol, so now we are butt hurt for disagreeing with Priscilla. 

Priscilla has stated how she loves to argue, how indeed it is how she makes her living (all donations welcome, no matter how small.)

As you like memes so much, here is one Albert made just for you.

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16 hours ago, Duc2V4

I'll be honest I did not watch the whole video but did see the semi truck part, I really have to chuckle at the term being squeezed out of the lane. Being in California I get to do what a lot of other riders around the world get to do and that is lane share/split/filter, whatever name it's given and as such have truly been squeezed out of a lane. One time in particular, I actually rubbed shoulders with a large "Dually" truck and even had my helmet touch his side view mirror. Whether he didn't see me or he was trying to keep me from splitting, I'll never know, but in my case I was literally "squeezed"out of the lane.

Here's a clip of where I turned the tables on the cars...not my brightest moment but I knew I had it in the bag!

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Having grown up in the (LA) South Bay area, I know this exact location well.  Looks like fairly normal, aggressive street riding to me.  The cars were unlikely to tighten their lines in that decreasing radius curve, so even though your lane was ending, there was still plenty of room for a bike.  The only problem would have been if you'd hit gravel or something slippery on the inside, in which case you would have slid right in front of or into one or both of those cars...

Ciao,

10 hours ago, MBrane

 Don't ride in other vehicles blind spots. Pass them with extreme prejudice, use your signals properly when changing lanes, and get on with your life. Problem solved. 

Fixed it for you  :tongue:

59 minutes ago, Nelix

Lol, so now we are butt hurt for disagreeing with Priscilla.

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Such a drama queen Priscilla lol. 

Really if you think that was being squeezed out of your lane and having to take "evasive maneuvers" them motorcycling is not for you.

Don't we all have better things to do? Like go out and ride?

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Well I really am hurting for you Gator, I really don't want it to look like rubbing salt into wounds or like I'm a vulture picking on your bones but I'm afraid I do agree with JZH and Lee2002. Experienced long-term members here.

Squeezing is a misnomer here given the circumstances. You were light years away and the manoeuvres of the "offending" parties were highly foreseeable.

If you are, as you insist, merely highlighting how invisible we are, I strongly suggest you do not approach vehicles from behind in their blind spots (and on the non-overtaking side re the trailer) at well over the speed limit and particularly, having ample time and space to spare, don't call it squeezing, make huffy remarks to the trucker and accusing looks to the SUVer because, with all due respect, it just doesn't compute mate!!

Also twisties are literally that: plural. One curve in the road or a single on or off ramp does not qualify. I do understand you live in the land of the endless straight road but it still doesn't count.

In all fairness I figure you've little experience with motorcycling and understand you are enjoying your new bike. I'm not sure how spatially oriented/coordinated you are but I saw that truck a mile off and would have moderated my speed to suit the traffic... you're the one legally merging in that scenario buddy. One could go as far as to say in those two incidences you are contributing to giving bike riders a bad reputation. That trucker surely thinks you were in the wrong... and you were. If I were a traffic cop I would have pulled you over. No driving instructor worth being a driving instructor would condone your manoeuvres on both accounts nor would anyone understand how you could possibly be promoting awareness of our invisibility when the way you handled those situations only served to decrease your visibility. You just made it worse.

In fact, besides all this, as I've already stated, there was so much time and space between you all, I could have driven a bus through the gap!!

Now some of the guys on here are being just as melodramatic as they claim you to be. But that's my honest, down to earth, assessment of the video. I'm not having a stab at you this time like I did about riding the bike in those slippers you Americans call gators, even if it was just a minute or two's ride. Just moving a bike that weighs a quarter of a tonne around the garage in slippers, sandles or thongs is really asking for trouble.

I see you're on the defensive with all these memes but I honestly hope you'll reflect on the reasonable bits of opinion and advice in this thread and gloss over the bullshit.

Honest to goodness.

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GatorGreg, ‎14‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 0:20 PM

Yeah that poor guy must have thought he had died and gone to heaven  :tongue:  

Here you go dude. Think this  is a bit closer to being "squeezed" than your examples. 

Anyone please feel free to comment.   Had been sitting behind this guy for several minutes watching every move he made and how he reacted to traffic.   Bear in mind there are 10 bikes and a  whole line of cars behind him. 

My asshole puckered just watching that-u guys have some narrow roads!

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9 hours ago, Auspanglish

Well I really am hurting for you Gator, I really don't want it to look like rubbing salt into wounds or like I'm a vulture picking on your bones but I'm afraid I do agree with JZH and Lee2002. Experienced long-term members here.

Squeezing is a misnomer here given the circumstances. You were light years away and the manoeuvres of the "offending" parties were highly foreseeable.

If you are, as you insist, merely highlighting how invisible we are, I strongly suggest you do not approach vehicles from behind in their blind spots (and on the non-overtaking side re the trailer) at well over the speed limit and particularly, having ample time and space to spare, don't call it squeezing, make huffy remarks to the trucker and accusing looks to the SUVer because, with all due respect, it just doesn't compute mate!!

Also twisties are literally that: plural. One curve in the road or a single on or off ramp does not qualify. I do understand you live in the land of the endless straight road but it still doesn't count.

In all fairness I figure you've little experience with motorcycling and understand you are enjoying your new bike. I'm not sure how spatially oriented/coordinated you are but I saw that truck a mile off and would have moderated my speed to suit the traffic... you're the one legally merging in that scenario buddy. One could go as far as to say in those two incidences you are contributing to giving bike riders a bad reputation. That trucker surely thinks you were in the wrong... and you were. If I were a traffic cop I would have pulled you over. No driving instructor worth being a driving instructor would condone your manoeuvres on both accounts nor would anyone understand how you could possibly be promoting awareness of our invisibility when the way you handled those situations only served to decrease your visibility. You just made it worse.

In fact, besides all this, as I've already stated, there was so much time and space between you all, I could have driven a bus through the gap!!

Now some of the guys on here are being just as melodramatic as they claim you to be. But that's my honest, down to earth, assessment of the video. I'm not having a stab at you this time like I did about riding the bike in those slippers you Americans call gators, even if it was just a minute or two's ride. Just moving a bike that weighs a quarter of a tonne around the garage in slippers, sandles or thongs is really asking for trouble.

I see you're on the defensive with all these memes but I honestly hope you'll reflect on the reasonable bits of opinion and advice in this thread and gloss over the bullshit.

Honest to goodness.

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12 hours ago, fink

Here you go dude. Think this  is a bit closer to being "squeezed" than your examples. 

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Anyone please feel free to comment.   Had been sitting behind this guy for several minutes watching every move he made and how he reacted to traffic.   Bear in mind there are 10 bikes and a  whole line of cars behind him. 

Sorry Fink, but I don't see any squeezing in your vid.  What I did see was what looked like you making a dangerous and (I assume) illegal pass of a car by crossing a solid white line which resulted in you coming within 2 seconds of crashing head on into an oncoming motorcyclist - clearly the work of a rider who needs remedial training IMO.  Then I saw you make a legal pass of a bus going about 25mph with plenty of room.  The bus was obviously a wide vehicle for that road and you knew for several minutes that the driver was having a hard time keeping entirely within the lane.  Yet with all that time to see and think about the encroachment of the bus you chose to go into the oncoming lane to pass him anyway.  It looked to me like the bus driver saw you and was being courteous by giving you plenty of room to make your pass and yet you honked your horn at him as you finished your pass - pretty rude IMO - you should have given the poor guy a friendly wave for helping you out.  In contrast, in my situation I had drivers actually change into my lane at triple your speed with no or inadequate signaling which gave me less than a second to avoid them - fortunately I was able to react in a fraction of a second because I always anticipate that possibility.

Also, I checked out your YouTube channel and I must say it was the most dreary and boring channel I think I've ever seen - even worse than mine  :tongue:  - I actually just now subscribed to it because I felt sorry for you when I saw you only had 28 subscribers despite your having posted about 50 videos over almost 10 years.  I only watched a few but there were literally no comments and no thumbs up in the videos I saw and just a handful of views.   Even your track day vid I watched was boring - unless your idea of excitement is watching you get passed and lapped by everyone else on the track.  Was your bike having mechanical issues?  I'm surprised they even let you stay out there since it looked to me like you were a hazard to the other riders - you should probably make sure your bike is in tune and/or improve your riding skills before hitting the track again for your own and everyone else's safety.  The only vid I saw that was worth watching was the one you posted of the topless woman - I didn't think they allowed nude breasts on YT but maybe they don't care since no one watches your channel  :tongue:

15 hours ago, interceptor69

Don't we all have better things to do? Like go out and ride?

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I'd love to see more riding vids from 8th gen owners!

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Cliff notes?

More american butt hurt? More memes. Which I understand you use because there is no plausible intelligent reply. It's all crocodile tears over a false initial claim for which a false excuse was used regarding visibility when your bluff was called.

Boy who cried wolf.

Just man up dude.

Well I shall take your facetious reply in the knowledge you've already had your license suspended at least once.

Good luck to you. You will need it. From what I can gather. Try some proficiency courses, I'm not joking.

That is why I fitted an air horn to my 83 V45 Sabre.   I was run off the road by an 18 wheeler.   Makes you remember that you are invisible.

5 hours ago, GatorGreg

Sorry Fink, but I don't see any squeezing in your vid.  What I did see was what looked like you making a dangerous and (I assume) illegal pass of a car by crossing a solid white line which resulted in you coming within 2 seconds of crashing head on into an oncoming motorcyclist - clearly the work of a rider who needs remedial training IMO.  Then I saw you make a legal pass of a bus going about 25mph with plenty of room.  The bus was obviously a wide vehicle for that road and you knew for several minutes that the driver was having a hard time keeping entirely within the lane.  Yet with all that time to see and think about the encroachment of the bus you chose to go into the oncoming lane to pass him anyway.  It looked to me like the bus driver saw you and was being courteous by giving you plenty of room to make your pass and yet you honked your horn at him as you finished your pass - pretty rude IMO - you should have given the poor guy a friendly wave for helping you out.  In contrast, in my situation I had drivers actually change into my lane at triple your speed with no or inadequate signaling which gave me less than a second to avoid them - fortunately I was able to react in a fraction of a second because I always anticipate that possibility.

Also, I checked out your YouTube channel and I must say it was the most dreary and boring channel I think I've ever seen - even worse than mine  :tongue:  - I actually just now subscribed to it because I felt sorry for you when I saw you only had 28 subscribers despite your having posted about 50 videos over almost 10 years.  I only watched a few but there were literally no comments and no thumbs up in the videos I saw and just a handful of views.   Even your track day vid I watched was boring - unless your idea of excitement is watching you get passed and lapped by everyone else on the track.  Was your bike having mechanical issues?  I'm surprised they even let you stay out there since it looked to me like you were a hazard to the other riders - you should probably make sure your bike is in tune and/or improve your riding skills before hitting the track again for your own and everyone else's safety.  The only vid I saw that was worth watching was the one you posted of the topless woman - I didn't think they allowed nude breasts on YT but maybe they don't care since no one watches your channel  :tongue:

Cheers for checking out my You Tube Channel I'm sorry it's not up to your expectations and find it boring. For me it's a bit of fun. As for the trackday stuff it's not bad for a 16 year old bike with Californian cams and ecu( import) against a lot of newer and bigger stuff, it was also my road bike as well.  Still managed to grind out the pegs and keep in front of some faster stuff. You should maybe try it someday you may learn something.  

Hope your missus didn't catch you having a ham shank  over  the scantily clad lady and you remembered to wipe the cum off your screen,so you wouldn't be found out.   

You have much much to learn about riding a bike on a real road. 

The only correct observation you made was the crossing of the solid white line.  However the car in front had indicated for me to overtake and was slowing down. Road ahead was clear.   

The bike had been seen, as had the cyclist, which is why I moved back over and maintained my position behind.  If you look a bit further into the foreground you will see both. 

The bus bus was travelling at 40-45 mph.  He was wide enough to have kept his wheels on his side of the centre line if he wanted to and he had already passed another bus coming the other way earlier.  Other buses we encountered managed to.   He couldn't be bothered  and when I went for the overtake  deliberately moved to the right from his road position as I was halfway along the bus. "Squeezing" me as you put it.   The horn was in response to his hand gesture. 

As previously mentioned we had been sitting behind him for a few minutes in a long line of vehicles. Over here slow moving vehicles  are asked not to hold up a long queue of vehicles

3 hours ago, Auspanglish

Cliff notes?

More american butt hurt? More memes. Which I understand you use because there is no plausible intelligent reply. It's all crocodile tears over a false initial claim for which a false excuse was used regarding visibility when your bluff was called.

Boy who cried wolf.

Just man up dude.

Well I shall take your facetious reply in the knowledge you've already had your license suspended at least once.

Good luck to you. You will need it. From what I can gather. Try some proficiency courses, I'm not joking.

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48 minutes ago, fink

Cheers for checking out my You Tube Channel I'm sorry it's not up to your expectations and find it boring. For me it's a bit of fun. As for the trackday stuff it's not bad for a 16 year old bike with Californian cams and ecu( import) against a lot of newer and bigger stuff, it was also my road bike as well.  Still managed to grind out the pegs and keep in front of some faster stuff. You should maybe try it someday you may learn something.  

Hope your missus didn't catch you having a ham shank  over  the scantily clad lady and you remembered to wipe the cum off your screen,so you wouldn't be found out.   

You have much much to learn about riding a bike on a real road. 

The only correct observation you made was the crossing of the solid white line.  However the car in front had indicated for me to overtake and was slowing down. Road ahead was clear.   

The bike had been seen, as had the cyclist, which is why I moved back over and maintained my position behind.  If you look a bit further into the foreground you will see both. 

The bus bus was travelling at 40-45 mph.  He was wide enough to have kept his wheels on his side of the centre line if he wanted to and he had already passed another bus coming the other way earlier.  Other buses we encountered managed to.   He couldn't be bothered  and when I went for the overtake  deliberately moved to the right from his road position as I was halfway along the bus. "Squeezing" me as you put it.   The horn was in response to his hand gesture. 

As previously mentioned we had been sitting behind him for a few minutes in a long line of vehicles. Over here slow moving vehicles  are asked not to hold up a long queue of vehicles

If you get frustrated and lose your cool that easily while riding - then perhaps motorcycles aren't for you.  Your rush to get ahead of the car nearly resulted in a head on collision with another biker when you made the illegal pass.  Sorry Fink, but that was a fail.  I'd recommend you stick to posting soft porn on your YT channel - you're clearly much more talented at that than riding a bike.

3 hours ago, CathyEveridge

That is why I fitted an air horn to my 83 V45 Sabre.   I was run off the road by an 18 wheeler.   Makes you remember that you are invisible.

It was your fault - had you been an aware and experienced rider you would have seen the 18 wheeler from a mile away and predicted his intentions like all the self-appointed experts here (just kidding  :tongue: ).  Seriously though, a better horn is an excellent idea - the 8th gen horn is not very loud compared to previous bikes I've owned.

1 hour ago, GatorGreg

If you get frustrated and lose your cool that easily while riding - then perhaps motorcycles aren't for you.  Your rush to get ahead of the car nearly resulted in a head on collision with another biker when you made the illegal pass.  Sorry Fink, but that was a fail.  I'd recommend you stick to posting soft porn on your YT channel - you're clearly much more talented at that than riding a bike.

Go go and look at the footage again you can clearly see the oncoming bikes headlight.  There was no rush to get ahead of car, the overtake was carefully planned and executed correctly according to that plan.  

At which point did did I appear to get frustrated and lose my cool?   The pips of horn were not aggressive.   

Btw you still haven't told us how long you have been riding.   Maybe I should sit down and watch your recent trip postings then do a critique.  Then again why waste my time.   

Well wasted a few mins watching the vid you posted here.  

Your land and discipline is atrocious, why swap from lane to lane when you don't need to?

Your cornering technique is all wrong.  Your positioning for bends is all wrong which will affect everything else,should you have to make an evasive manoeuvre.  If the roads were any tighter you would stand a good chance of becoming a hood ornament.  

This is how to take bends properly.  Enjoy.

21 minutes ago, fink

Well wasted a few mins watching the vid you posted here.  

Your land and discipline is atrocious, why swap from lane to lane when you don't need to?

Your cornering technique is all wrong.  Your positioning for bends is all wrong which will affect everything else,should you have to make an evasive manoeuvre.  If the roads were any tighter you would stand a good chance of becoming a hood ornament.  

This is how to take bends properly.  Enjoy.

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Sorry, but there is nothing particularly enlightening or twisty about that either. Judging lines on public roads always seemed presumptuous to me. I have an ideal line in my mind when I ride, but road conditions play a role. I won't ride over patches or pot holes just because they are in the technically proper line. 

Still the height of summer, what will winter bring?  :goofy:

9 minutes ago, 01ragtop

Sorry, but there is nothing particularly enlightening or twisty about that either. Judging lines on public roads always seemed presumptuous to me. I have an ideal line in my mind when I ride, but road conditions play a role. I won't ride over patches or pot holes just because they are in the technically proper line. 

Yup it's not twisty there are a few 90 degree bends and a few more a lot less. It looks a lot easier to ride then it actually is .

it's all about being in the correct position that will allow you maximum forward vision and be able to plan what you are going to do as you approach the next hazard as opposed to being in the incorrect position where your forward vision is reduced and you have to react to what is happening ahead. Yes ,you do sacrifice your position for safety ( i.e. Pot holes, overbanding) Just as you alter speed for same. 

2 hours ago, fink

Well wasted a few mins watching the vid you posted here.  

Your land and discipline is atrocious, why swap from lane to lane when you don't need to?

Your cornering technique is all wrong.  Your positioning for bends is all wrong which will affect everything else,should you have to make an evasive manoeuvre.  If the roads were any tighter you would stand a good chance of becoming a hood ornament.  

This is how to take bends properly.  Enjoy.

[video: https://www.youtube.com/embed/G88eun3dbJk?feature=oembed]

Thanks Fink, but that's just an awful video - I turned it off after 30 sec cuz they're all riding on the wrong side of the road!  :tongue:     I'm actually a very safe rider and driver - it even says so right on my Fla license - LOL!  It has been many years since my license was suspended for 30 days (due to too many speeding tix in 1 year).  I can't even remember the last time I got a ticket and I've never been in a motorcycle or auto accident.

Not to brag, but I was the only person in my 3 day motorcycle safety course to get a perfect score on either the riding or written tests and I got perfect scores on both.   The class included several folks who had many years of riding experience who had moved to Fla from out of state.   In fact I think I will try my hand at producing a safe riding technique video (instead of my usual joyriding vids) as a public service.  You could definitely learn a few things (like not crossing a solid line lane divider to make an illegal pass into oncoming traffic)  :tongue:

For track riding - I would highly recommend this video by Smoke and Mirrors over the track day vids on your YT channel.  Unlike you, he is actually capable of making a pass  :tongue:

9 hours ago, GatorGreg

I didn't think they allowed nude breasts on YT but maybe they don't care since no one watches your channel  :tongue:

Haha your post was brilliant, but this pushed me over the edge  :laugh:

1 hour ago, Dutchy

Still the height of summer, what will winter bring?  :goofy:

Yep, I haven't been able to ride in a couple of weeks; guess I'm feeling a little snarky. 

I had avoided posting on this thread too, dammit. The whole "I got squeezed"/"no you didn't, your riding just sucks" is kinda silly. Action cams distort speed and perspective so badly, who can know. It doesn't look close on video, but I wasn't there. 

I also understand the proper line, but at the speed in any of the videos shown on this thread, the line taken isn't critical. Certainly not worth the drama of insinuating death and dismemberment is imminent. 

2 hours ago, GatorGreg

Thanks Fink, but that's just an awful video - I turned it off after 30 sec cuz they're all riding on the wrong side of the road!  :tongue:     I'm actually a very safe rider and driver - it even says so right on my Fla license - LOL!  It has been many years since my license was suspended for 30 days (due to too many speeding tix in 1 year).  I can't even remember the last time I got a ticket and I've never been in a motorcycle or auto accident.

Not to brag, but I was the only person in my 3 day motorcycle safety course to get a perfect score on either the riding or written tests and I got perfect scores on both.   The class included several folks who had many years of riding experience who had moved to Fla from out of state.   In fact I think I will try my hand at producing a safe riding technique video (instead of my usual joyriding vids) as a public service.  You could definitely learn a few things (like not crossing a solid line lane divider to make an illegal pass into oncoming traffic)  :tongue:

For track riding - I would highly recommend this video by Smoke and Mirrors over the track day vids on your YT channel.  Unlike you, he is actually capable of making a pass  :tongue:

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Oh for heavens sake don't do that. The laps of Disneyland are enough stick to the tea cups though. 

Your choice to watch or not.  Congratulation on the full marks pass.  I tried an online Florida bike licence test and got full marks too.  I'm not even in your country.  :beer: .    

No pass into oncoming traffic. You need to work on your observational skills. Haven't done track riding for years dude so no need to have a go at that. At least I've tried it which is more than can be said for yourself. 

You wonder why Rossi et al  don't just retire as Priscilla is queen of the track and twisties.

GatorGreg  

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OK, I'll use an anecdote.

The other day I went to the doctor. I said "Doc, I'd like you to take a look at my Johnson."

Subsequent to inspection he said "Why there's nothing wrong with your Johnson whatsoever."

To which I replied "I know, but ISN'T IT A F@¢%€N BEAUTY!!"

Ahhh.  Good to see this thread dying the shameful death it deserves. 

8 hours ago, fink

No pass into oncoming traffic. You need to work on your observational skills. Haven't done track riding for years dude so no need to have a go at that. At least I've tried it which is more than can be said for yourself. 

After watching your track day vid of you getting passed by everybody and his uncle I can see why you quit  :tongue:    I've made the same number of track day passes as you did in that vid (zero) and I've never even been to the track - LMAO!   The only passing you excel at is of the illegal variety across a solid line into oncoming traffic  :tongue:

7 hours ago, Nelix

You wonder why Rossi et al  don't just retire as Priscilla is queen of the track and twisties.

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Next?  :tongue:

25 minutes ago, GatorGreg

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Next?  :tongue:

First loses, then what what happens second?

Oh, and check your local laws with regards to the interpretation of lane markings.

My Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices says it is meant to discourage but not prohibit crossing.

Your mileage may vary!

Haven't read any of the other replies (topic has probably changed since OP), but seriously? Both vehicles started to merge lanes well before you were even close to them. The truck certainly had his indicator on. Not sure about the CRV. 

5 hours ago, GatorGreg

After watching your track day vid of you getting passed by everybody and his uncle I can see why you quit  :tongue:    I've made the same number of track day passes as you did in that vid (zero) and I've never even been to the track - LMAO!   The only passing you excel at is of the illegal variety across a solid line into oncoming traffic  :tongue:

Change the record dude.  Yes it was across a solid line but it wasn't illegal.  From your definition of squeezing  then it would be into oncoming traffic as it was several hundred m away when I did overtake,  but from mine there was plenty of time. 

14 hours ago, SithLord

Haven't read any of the other replies (topic has probably changed since OP), but seriously? Both vehicles started to merge lanes well before you were even close to them. The truck certainly had his indicator on. Not sure about the CRV. 

What SithL.ord said...

What I see is called "TRAFFIC" it happens every day whether you're in a cage or on a bike...its not whine worthy...definitely not worth 5 pages...

Matt

It is to Priscilla........

She is sensitive though, apparently a soccer mom shouted at her once, but that's another thread.

fink, 7/17/2017 at 0:58 PM

Congratulation on the full marks pass.  I tried an online Florida bike licence test and got full marks too.  I'm not even in your country.  :beer:

That's great that you got a perfect score on the written test Fink.  It's too bad you didn't fare as well on the actual riding portion of the test - I found a video of it below  :tongue: