I've been using Motul chain lube since my dearly departed RWB. I've continued the same with my 8th gen VFR.
I've pondered shifting to chain paste but wonder if the paste can penetrate as well as the lube.
I use Motul lube and don't have any issues with fling.
What do you guys use and prefer?
Happy holidays!
Motul paste :wheel:
Ever since I "discovered" it 2 years ago.
Modern chains don't need anything penetrating the o-rings, just the grime on the chain surface (think degreaser). They prefer to run clean and they're sealed from the factory and you want them to stay that way.
I've used WD-40 or PB Blaster for many years with superb results both in wear and lifetime. I've recently used Maxima cleaner and lube just because my friends' chains looked more shiny than mine...but no variation in results, just cost of cleaners.
The street bikes seem to get to a point where they're wearing unevenly at end of life. The track bikes start to throw rollers.
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A year ago or so, on VFRD BLS recommended Motul Paste, been meaning to try it--doesn't fling.
But more importantly, just keep the chain CLEAN, and lube sparingly every ~500 miles --just so the metal-to-metal, roller-to-sprocket, has a little film.
bmart you are 100% correct IMO. The O or X rings don't need lube because they are sealed.
Ari Henning has several great videos on chain maintenance and lubing. Keep it clean, lube sparingly, and you get 20,000 miles from a chain.
It doesn't matter. You can use pam cooking spray if you want. Spend less time worrying about the small stuff, and more time riding.
FWIW, this is from the box my last DID ZVMX chain came in.
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I like the ProHonda HP chain lube, been using for years. Has Teflon and Moly, dries with no sling, keeps the chain clean. Wouldnt mind trying the Motul Paste.... In general, hate chain waxes, it just attracts dirt to stick to the chain, and is a goey mess.
To each his own, but PB Blaster? Not me....
Lessee.... best oil, tires, brake fluid, batterys, chain lube..... beer.... :biggrin:
Maxima Chain Wax, sparingly. Dust is the enemy down here in the SouthWest. I apply the chain wax after a ride and let it dry. Very little fling, runs clean, attracts very little dust.
For me, S100 synthetic chain lube (since it came out in the 80ties). Unfortunately, only available in Europe and cannot purchase in the US. As I am on the last drops, I will try Honda gear oil after watching Ryan F9 YouTube on chain lube.
Results on Maxima cleaner/lube look nicer than WD. Truly, they've never looked nicer. All on old chains.
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Hawke Oiler and 140/70 gear lube. Changed the last chain with 25,000 miles on it. It probably had another few thousand miles left in it, but I wanted to
try the 520 conversion. Running the DID 520 chain, 17 tooth countershaft, and 45 rear sprocket. Actually feels pretty good.
Tried chain wax years ago on one bike or another, and had lousy results, but that was a long time ago. The formula has prolly been changed for the better.
21 hours ago, bmartResults on Maxima cleaner/lube look nicer than WD. Truly, they've never looked nicer. All on old ch
Wow, this looks really good, I will have to rethink the gear oil approach. Thanks for sharing.
I must be seeing things... In that 2nd pic, it looks like the inner sprocket teeth aren't meshed with the spindle coming out of the transmission...
edit: sorry, was referring to bmart's photos right above
Your eyes are fine! I was wondering any anyone noticed. 🙂
One of the track bikes lost the locking washer and the nut spun off in the final turn at VIR South this year. Never seen that happen before. I torque everything!
11 hours ago, bmartYour eyes are fine! I was wondering any anyone noticed. 🙂
One of the track bikes lost the locking washer and the nut spun off in the final turn at VIR South this year. Never seen that happen before. I torque everything!
I used to run an '05 R6 at the track (I see your sig shows an '03). Came in after my last session of the day, noticed the front sprocket nut and washer were gone. Fortunately it was my last session. Looked into this and found that it was not unheard of for this gen of R6 (I also torque everything but had recently acquired the bike and did not check this sprocket, lesson learned :biggrin: ). Installed new nut and tabbed washer then torqued, added vibratite and safety wire prior to next outing. Apologies for the hijack.
ACE
None of the above;
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The Ol'Battlestar burns oil, so I tube the hot crankcase fumes to the chain, haven't lubed it in years,,.. though it gets thirsty for lots of 15w40.
Believe it or not, but I had a 1971 Triumph Bonneville, and the crankcase breather tube terminated just above the rear sprocket. Did a right nice job
of lubing the chain. You're in good company. 🙂
I use SAE 80W-90 Gear oil on my o-ring chain. Have used it for over 20 years from my early gen to my current eighth generation VFR.
Motul chain lube, 39,000km on original chain, still going strong.
SAE 90 gear oil 👍
I have a can of Motul chain lube to try for comparison but have been using the Motul chain paste for the last few years religiously and love it!
I always 1st clean the chain with kerosene.
4 hours ago, Philois1984Motul chain lube, 39,000km on original chain, still going strong.
Wow, what is the chain made of? Unobtanium? 👍
Chain wax on my ZRX. Basic lube seemed to leave tight links after 200 miles. Decent spray-on wax is way more than that, I do it when I think of it instead of when it gets dry.
Honda recommends 75W-90 or 140 gear lube every 500 miles. Works well and I have gone over 500 miles. Apply, wipe clean and expect some "fly off". Clean chains is better than over lubed chains.
FWIW I use Maxima chain wax.
To be honest, I think the choice of chain is more important in the end.
Just my .02 cents
I recommend Motul Chain Paste... squeeze the white grease from the
tube and load the brush... Hold the loaded brush to the inside of the
chain rollers to transfer the white grease... After a couple of spins
of the chain it's lubed like from the Factory... Motul Chain Paste
clings with no flings...
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I dunno, looks like a good attractant for sand and dirt to collect on, and work their abrasive magic. 🙂
4 hours ago, BusyLittleShopit's lubed like from the Factory
Which is for resisting rust during storage and shipping. Most remove all of that crap before using it. This is a product I don't understand unless one is planning to store the bike for some period.
I've been using this stuff for about six years now. Seems to work ok, turns into a dry film after you spray it on.
've used some "dry lube" before with good results also.
FJ12Ryder, 12/26/2021 at 5:17 PMI dunno, looks like a good attractant for sand and dirt to collect on, and work their abrasive magic. 🙂
Especially down here in the SouthWest, aka the SandBox.
(Can't imagine Platte City without Sonny Hill!)
Man, you have to be old to remember Sonny Hill. LOL
I remember Benny Hill!
FJ12Ryder, I lived up there from '89 to '92, worked down in KC, in MO, then KS. That was during my "Harley phase.
Cool beans. I've lived here since 2001, and lived up in St. Joe before that.
On a different subject, we've been thinking of heading south next winter for a little snowbirding. Any decent RV parks near? And more importantly, good
motorcyling roads? We stayed near Angelfire some years back and liked the area, but thinking a warmer area for the winter.
FJ12,
There's a big RV park on the west side, bound to be others. (Just not something on my radar) Eastern NM is high grasslands, roads are purty straight. The 'quadrant' west of I-25, north of I-40 is loaded with great twisties! South of I-40 and West of I-25 is good close to the mountainous areas. The Rockies fizzle out that far south.
North will always be cooler, partly because of latitude, but more because of elevation. Albuquerque is a mile high, the Sandia Mountains on the east side of town peak at 10,400'. (The Crest Road going up the east side of the Sandias is a local favorite.) Temps here are a happy medium between cold up north and HOT further south.
Come on down!!