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My 4Th Gen Project

95 posts Started 7 Jul 2014 Last recovered post 20 Dec 2016 Wayback Machine snapshot 10 Jul 2017

#1

Like many others, I was inspired by ApexAndy's work to customize my VFR. In my case, not only am I upgrading my bike, but I'm also rebuilding it after a 60mph lowside.

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That's what she looked like immediately following the crash. Bent forks, and the front fairings are toast, as are the mid fairings (not cracked all the way, but they're scratched to hell and basically rubbish) She sat at a friend's house for a little over a month before I managed to bribe another friend with a truck into picking it up and delivering it back to Houston for me.

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Another angle of the carnage, this time she's under my parent's back patio

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My first "tear down" session

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After a few more sessions, mind you I'm still in a sling at this point.

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And this is where she's currently at.

Waiting for the new front suspension springs to come in so I can tear into the forks, get them rebuilt, and get them mounted up.

So what I've got in mind is somewhat similar to zefarton44's cafe project, actually a lot similar. What I want to end up with is something I can eventually do a little bit of track time with, but also something that's not too impractical for everyday use. So far for the build I've got:

3rd gen wheel

CBR 929 front end

Springs for said 929 front end, so it won't be so squishy

Superhawk clutch M/C

CBR929 M/C

Stainless steel lines for brakes and clutch

Yoshimura RS3 left side exhaust from a Hayabusa

A friend of mine recently had his Z1000 totaled due to a crack in the frame, so I'm going to attempt to scavenge his subframe/seat and see if I can somehow make that work with a custom bracket or two.

Anyways, I'll keep y'all posted as the project slowly but surely moves along. I'm open to suggestions for pretty much anything and everything, so let me know what you think.

Edit: I've also got some leftovers that are salvageable, so if anyone is looking for cheap parts, let me know.

Edited July 7, 2014 by Scottay951
#2

NACA's are the best but your looks pretty farked...................... but if the frame and engine are fine then cafe racer it is.

Sebspeed can do something nice with your scuffed clutch cover..................

#3

Oooh. That looked a nasty crash. Hope you're OK & mending well.

I've just stripped off a set of forks from my VFR this weekend & just read you'll be doing a CBR929 front end conversion. I did one this weekend using an RC51 (SP2) front end - check my thread to see details.

If you need more info on specifics to do with this conversion I should be able to help whilst it's still fresh on my mind. I believe 954 & CBR1000 front ends are similar. RVT1000R front wheels also fit the CBR1000RR & vice versa, not sure about earlier models. Or just do an RVT1000R front end conversion, the brakes are 320mm as standard.

#4

Dutchy - Had to look up what you meant by NACA's, and yeah, they're in beyond rough shape. And what is this black magic regarding my clutch cover that you speak of?

TheStig - I've already got the suspension sorted, just waiting for parts to come in. The bike came with what I believe to be a Type IV Ohlins rear shock(remote reservoir and remote preload adjuster), and I'm having it fully serviced/refurbished as part of my rebuild. Thanks for the offer though.

Response to your ninja edit :) : Everything I've read online makes it seem like the 929 front end is essentially a bolt on project, but we'll see when the time comes

Edited July 7, 2014 by Scottay951
#5

What? You have not seen Seb's arts&craft? :-)

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(painted the pressure plate myself, you can pick your own color)

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My face right now...that's awesome!! How much of a donation does he require?

#8

You're a bad, bad man Dutchy... I have contacted Seb subsequent to your post! :happy:

#9

I have been called worse....... I have been called a banker.... :goofy:

#10
Dutchy

What? You have not seen Seb's arts&craft? :-)

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(painted the pressure plate myself, you can pick your own color)

You just had to get some blue in there. HA.
#11

Took my carbs into work earlier this week and took off the float bowls. Much to my surprise, they were clean as a whistle and so were the jets! I ran them through our ultrasonic washer just for good measure. Upon closer inspection I noticed that part of the choke mechanism was broken, so I've had to order this part: 16169-MZ5-670, which will require a complete tear down to replace :mad:

On a lighter note, after this weekend I'll have the front end together! Then I'll have to wait for my rear shock to come back before I can put her down on two wheels again and drop the motor for an old fashion scrub down to get rid of all the soot and grease.

I may have had a little spill while changing the oil... :goofy:

Anyways...complete CBR 929 RR front end with RC51 clip-ons. 929 brake master cylinder and superchicken clutch master cylinder.

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Edited August 10, 2014 by Scottay951
#12

How did the fork upgrade go? Was it as much a bolt on as you were thinking?

#13
KOCONUT

How did the fork upgrade go? Was it as much a bolt on as you were thinking?

Pretty much, the main thing I'm noticing now is that the steering stops will hit my radiator once it's re-mounted. If you get a set of forks, be sure to tear them down and inspect the internals. The bushings in my set of forks were toast, so I had to order a new set for each fork leg and put them in. I also put in some heavier RaceTech springs while it was apart.

In other news, I'm getting my rear shock back at the end of next week. Then I'll be able to do a number of things! September should be a busy month for me :491:

#14

Does anyone have an idea as to how many jet sizes I'll have to bump up when I install my dual Yoshimura exhausts? I'm planning to remove the snorkel on the airbox to help compensate for the less restrictive exhaust, but I'll also need to increase the amount of fuel to compensate for the newly increased airflow. What did most of y'all end up doing with your aftermarket pipes?

#15

On my 4th gen, I removed the snorkel and fitted the hi-mount Akrapovic. I have not changed a thing on the jetting. No drama.

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#16

Awesome, I'll start with that and hopefully it'll be enough. Dutchy to the rescue yet again!

#17

Hi ! I'm glad to see another cafe racer project, even if it's due to a crash...

For the jetting don't bother yourself, I removed the snorkel and fitted the most free exhaust you can ever fit on a viffer, and it's working great ! May be a bit too rich according to explosions noises when reving down :laugh:

I'll come in San Antonio next tuesday and I'll stay there for 2 month, as soon as I will have bought a car don't hesitate to contact me I'd be really glad to come help you with your bike !

And a little suggestion, try to get a CBR 1000 front fender (after 2008), because this one is really too big !

Edited September 20, 2014 by zefarton44
#18

FINALLY picked up my rebuilt rear shock! The bright yellow sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the filth that the rest of the bike is covered in.

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Then I got to wondering what this FrankenViffer is going to end up looking like...

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Needless to say I'm pretty damn excited about the next few months.

I realized I haven't kept up that well with updates:

Threw on an HRC kill switch and mated an R6 throttle tube to an '05 CBR1000 throttle housing. The housing needs to be dremeled out a little bit to allow the enormous throttle tube to twist easily but that's not a big deal.

Got my RC51 gauges as well (not pictured), waiting to find a half decent gauge sub-harness before I delve into figuring out the electronics and wiring (which is going to be....fun?...yeah, fun)

Also realized that the headlight mounts I ordered don't stick out far enough to allow clearance for the headlight, derp.

Next off is doing the PAIR valve delete, ordering some Samco coolant hoses, and figuring out what to use as a coolant reservoir instead of the hideous milk jug.


zefarton44

Hi ! I'm glad to see another cafe racer project, even if it's due to a crash...

For the jetting don't bother yourself, I removed the snorkel and fitted the most free exhaust you can ever fit on a viffer, and it's working great ! May be a bit too rich according to explosions noises when reving down :laugh:

I'll come in San Antonio next tuesday and I'll stay there for 2 month, as soon as I will have bought a car don't hesitate to contact me I'd be really glad to come help you with your bike !

And a little suggestion, try to get a CBR 1000 front fender (after 2008), because this one is really too big !

I'm actually basing a lot of my mods from your build and apexandy's build, so thanks for being original so copy cats like me can steal your ideas :goofy:

That sounds good, I'd rather not have to fiddle with the carbs more than I already have, I ended up breaking one of the plastic bits on the choke mechanism and had to separate the carbs (fml...) to replace the linkage. Also ran them through my work's ultrasonic cleaner even though they were spotless anyways.

Oooo I might take you up on that, don't tempt me haha.

And damn...that fender was nearly $100 on eBay. I tried an '05 fender and it didn't match so I just assumed none of the newer ones worked, but you're right, it does look a bit bulky on a nekkid/cafe bike.

Edited September 22, 2014 by Scottay951
#19

Just finished de-PAIRing, good riddance to 3 pounds and helping the environment! I also started cleaning up the engine, holy cow was there a lot of gunk behind the clutch slave cylinder!

#20
Scottay951

holy cow was there a lot of gunk behind the clutch slave cylinder!

so get that cutter/grinder out of the cupboard!!!

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#21

Got my rear brake reinstalled after noticing the torque arm bolt's thread was stripped. Working at a dealership and having access to discounted OEM parts has proven quite useful throughout this build ;) Finished off the PAIR delete with a set of block off plates and gaskets for a Hayabusa from JDA Customs on eBay. Also got an '09 CBR 1000 RR fender in the mail today. I'll post more pics when the progress is more substantive.

#22

I've sort of hit a road block and I'm not too sure what to do. After mounting the Z1000 subframe, I've noticed that I have a 3 inch gap between the back of the tank and the beginning of the seat, as seen in the picture. Does anyone have any idea what to do? I've thought of getting the seat reshaped to close the gap, but I figured I'd see if anyone had any better/more creative ideas.

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#23

cut the seat from left to right and then add the 3 inch section that you need with fiberglass or whatever and then refoam and recover.

#24

Supposed to get my triple trees back from powdercoating next week. Got my cbr 900 rr rearsets in today and found out after attempting to mount the right one that the main bracket is bent...grumble grumble...

I'm also going to try something different with the shift linkage, I want a GP/ reverse style shifter so something more than a few spacers will be required to make it work.

Again, I'll post more pics when progress is more tangible.

#25
Dutchy
Scottay951

holy cow was there a lot of gunk behind the clutch slave cylinder!

so get that cutter/grinder out of the cupboard!!!

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I've managed to put my new Dremel to good use! I've trimmed down the radiator/fairing mounts and I'm working on making a bracket for the rear shock's preload adjuster. I'll likely sit down some time this week and figure out how I want to trim down the fat on the front sprocket guard, but it'll probably end up looking a lot like how you did yours.

#26

Got my triple trees back from powdercoat and dropped off the wheels to be coated to the same light bronze of the 1991 model's wheels. Mostly complete front end now!

#27

Don't mind the giant oil stain...

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#28

SS Brake and clutch lines, Samco coolant hoses. Rims, tires, Seb-ified clutch cover coming soon! Got my wheels back from powder coat as well, I chose to get them both re-done with the 1991 VFR factory gold/bronze. Waiting for new wheel bearings and seals, then they'll be ready for their tires and get mounted up. Can't wait to have a rolling chassis again!

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Edited December 30, 2014 by Scottay951
#29

Looking good so far.

Any chance you could post the brand and color name of the powder that was used on your wheels?

#30

I can call the powdercoater tomorrow and find out.

Shameless plug for the powder coating company:

The company, Texas Performance Coatings, out of Texas City, Tx, was an absolute pleasure to work with. They previously did my triple trees and clip-ons, and walked away impressed with their work, but nothing noteworthy about their customer service until I took them my rims. They did not have the particular gold color that I wanted in stock, so they did a special order for a color that their lead tech and I decided looked most similar to the 1991 OEM gold color. They had my rims for about a month, a fairly lengthy time, but I wasn't bothered since I knew their work was top-notch based on my aforementioned triple trees. When i went to pick them up is when they told me what had happened.

The original color that we had ordered came out darker than what I had described, so they called a Honda dealership and somehow (I work at a Yamaha/Honda dealership and we couldn't find this information in the fiche, otherwise I would have done this in the first place) got the Honda color code, they then called their powder supplier and made another special order for the correct powder. They then sandblasted the originally sprayed gold off, and re-sprayed my rims with the new correct color. All without any additional charge to me, not that there should have been, but to take the initiative and get the color code from honda, make another special powder order, re-blast and re-spray my rims all without any extra fees was just amazing. If you're in the Houston area, I really can't recommend anyone else to take care of your powder coat needs. Plus they're a bunch of good ol' boys too.

End shameless plug.

Can't wait to get that clutch cover back Seb, got my new gaskets ready to go. I also finally got my new bearings for my front wheel (apparently Honda's parts warehouses give generous vacations to their employees) so the tire can be mounted/balanced and shoved into place! I should have a rolling chassis by the end of the week!

I've figured out the wiring for the RC51 gauge cluster. Now I just have to figure out the VFR's harness and get everything to match up.

Also, does anyone have any recommendations as to how I should go about removing the dent in the gas tank? I've heard about using ice and water, suction cups, and several other methods, but a second opinion never hurts.

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Edited January 13, 2015 by Scottay951
#31
Scottay951

I can call the powdercoater tomorrow and find out.

Shameless plug for the powder coating company:

The company, Texas Performance Coatings, out of Texas City, Tx, was an absolute pleasure to work with. They previously did my triple trees and clip-ons, and walked away impressed with their work, but nothing noteworthy about their customer service until I took them my rims. They did not have the particular gold color that I wanted in stock, so they did a special order for a color that their lead tech and I decided looked most similar to the 1991 OEM gold color. They had my rims for about a month, a fairly lengthy time, but I wasn't bothered since I knew their work was top-notch based on my aforementioned triple trees. When i went to pick them up is when they told me what had happened.

The original color that we had ordered came out darker than what I had described, so they called a Honda dealership and somehow (I work at a Yamaha/Honda dealership and we couldn't find this information in the fiche, otherwise I would have done this in the first place) got the Honda color code, they then called their powder supplier and made another special order for the correct powder. They then sandblasted the originally sprayed gold off, and re-sprayed my rims with the new correct color. All without any additional charge to me, not that there should have been, but to take the initiative and get the color code from honda, make another special powder order, re-blast and re-spray my rims all without any extra fees was just amazing. If you're in the Houston area, I really can't recommend anyone else to take care of your powder coat needs. Plus they're a bunch of good ol' boys too.

End shameless plug.

Can't wait to get that clutch cover back Seb, got my new gaskets ready to go. I also finally got my new bearings for my front wheel (apparently Honda's parts warehouses give generous vacations to their employees) so the tire can be mounted/balanced and shoved into place! I should have a rolling chassis by the end of the week!

I've figured out the wiring for the RC51 gauge cluster. Now I just have to figure out the VFR's harness and get everything to match up.

Also, does anyone have any recommendations as to how I should go about removing the dent in the gas tank? I've heard about using ice and water, suction cups, and several other methods, but a second opinion never hurts.

Awesome, I have a powder coater near me that has taken good care of me and my friends. Did they divulge the color code by chance?
#32

If they did, I don't recall. I'll ask them tomorrow about both the Honda color code and the powder supplier's name and proprietary color code.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Scottay951
#33

Keep up the good work!

#34

For those wondering what powder was used for my wheels, it was Columbia's sulfur gold with just a hint of flake added for the extra touch of sparkle.

#35

I'm so happy right now. My Seb-ified clutch cover is in the mail as I type. It'll go off to powdercoat, then I can put that on and take off the tin foil.

Also, how the hell do i remove the centerstand, is there a pin I have to hammer out or what?

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Edited January 16, 2015 by Scottay951
#36

Fresh from the factory!

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Edited January 17, 2015 by Scottay951
#37
Scottay951

Fresh from the factory!

:wheel: very nice! Painting or coating the clutch plate?

#38

I got the clutch plate done the same sulfur gold color as my rims. I'll be taking the clutch cover to powder coat as soon as I get a chance, I'm thinking matte black for the clutch cover and stator cover, and getting the clutch plate bolts done in a metallic red.

Edited January 17, 2015 by Scottay951
#39

Or use countersunk bolts with red washers??

Like these (in blue; I have a set of red ones too)

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#40

Where could I obtain these colored washers from?

#43

Just ordered a set of the red countersunk washers, should look good compared to my gold clutch plate. Powder coating the cover itself will have to wait until more funding becomes available. I've got another goodie on it's way to Houston, but I'll wait until I can post pictures to reveal what exactly it is.

#44

Awwwww yeaaaahhhh

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#45

Liking this a lot! I have a project VFR that's going nowhere fast. Might street fighter the bastard like you are!! Looking forward to further updates on this :)

#46

Staintune high mount and new clutch cover (post-Seb-ification)

I don't want to boast, but hot damn it looks good!

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#47
Scottay951

Staintune high mount and new clutch cover (post-Seb-ification)

I don't want to boast, but hot damn it looks good!

Very nice! Boast away.

Did you come up with a solution for the gap between seat and tank?

#48
ggathagan
Scottay951

Staintune high mount and new clutch cover (post-Seb-ification)

I don't want to boast, but hot damn it looks good!

Very nice! Boast away.

Did you come up with a solution for the gap between seat and tank?

I think I'm just going to leave it for now, the seat need to be reupholstered so I'll have them add a few inches to the front to fill the gap.

#49

Did you have to change the bearings for the front end as I'm buying a 2005 CBR600RR front end for my VFR. Any issues with radiator clearance etc?

Edited January 29, 2015 by johnlondon
#50
johnlondon

Did you have to change the bearings for the front end as I'm buying a 2005 CBR600RR front end for my VFR. Any issues with radiator clearance etc?

Same bearings and rad clearance should not be an issue. The forks are pretty short but you'll have room, especially if you tweak the mount brackets.

I have a couple front fenders for those forks if you need one.

#51
johnlondon

Did you have to change the bearings for the front end as I'm buying a 2005 CBR600RR front end for my VFR. Any issues with radiator clearance etc?

I ordered new bearings just because the ones on the bike were worn out from 67k miles.

#52

But same size as mentioned by someone else? So if mine are ok on either the VFR or CBR...I can use either of them, I assume?

p.s - just checked out the staintune exhaust, made my eyes water at how expensive it is over here in the UK, over £600!!!!??

#53
johnlondon

But same size as mentioned by someone else? So if mine are ok on either the VFR or CBR...I can use either of them, I assume?p.s - just checked out the staintune exhaust, made my eyes water at how expensive it is over here in the UK, over £600!!!!??

Yes, both sets of bearings will fit into the VFR's bearing races. And yeah, It was just plain dumb luck that I saw ysrebob's post in the classifieds section and snagged it before anyone else!

#54

Good moves! Bet it sounds terrific. So what's next on the build?

#55
johnlondon

Good moves! Bet it sounds terrific. So what's next on the build?

Right now, I'm pretty sure my throttle cables are binding so it won't spring back closed. Other than that:

Finding a good place to hide the spark packs

Figuring out what I want to use as a radiator overflow

Re-installing the wiring harness and making the mods to the headlight connections and gauge connections

Make the struts for the lower mounts that will connect the subframe to the frame

New chain and sprockets

Re-mount the oil cooler

(I'm probably forgetting other stuff, but I'm between classes and my mind is mush)

That's just the functional mods, there are a lot of cosmetic things I'll eventually get to but my priority right now is to get it roadworthy

Cosmetics:

Powdercoat stator cover and clutch cover, probably the gas tank too

Clean up the engine in general, the salt air of south Houston hasn't been nice as far as surface corrosion goes.

Edit: just checked the tracking # on my countersunk washers, they're at my house so they'll go in as soon as I get out of class tonight and can make a quick jaunt to Home Depot for some SS washers to go underneath per Dutchy's suggestion

Edited January 29, 2015 by Scottay951
#56

The bolts that came with the washers were only 15mm long, so I opted for a 25mm M6 Allen head instead

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#57

Must be some special Australian type of bolt?

:wink:

#58

ooo, nice

#59
Scottay951

The bolts that came with the washers were only 15mm long, so I opted for a 25mm M6 Allen head instead

Sure hope I do not see your gold paint bubbling/peeling....... :unsure:

#60
Dutchy
Scottay951

The bolts that came with the washers were only 15mm long, so I opted for a 25mm M6 Allen head instead

Sure hope I do not see your gold paint bubbling/peeling....... :unsure:

No, those are just imperfections on the clutch plate that ended up coming through the powdercoat. They're really not that visible, but the camera's flash made them much more obvious

Edited January 30, 2015 by Scottay951
#61

You're really moving along with this project, so congratulations, it looks very nice so far. Good luck figuring out all the little finicky details.

One thought I have for an overflow tank is a paintball CO2 tank, could look a lot like a nitrous bottle... I had seen a customizer in the UK (YouTube) that used a bottle for a hair care product, maybe a hair mousse bottle? Had a kind of rounded look to the top, was an aluminum bottle and he spun with a drill press or something and took the paint off with sandpaper, which gave it a spun aluminum look. However, the aluminum was pretty thin, which is why I thought of the paintball bottle.

Scott in Brighton NY

#62
80sDweeb

You're really moving along with this project, so congratulations, it looks very nice so far. Good luck figuring out all the little finicky details.

One thought I have for an overflow tank is a paintball CO2 tank, could look a lot like a nitrous bottle... I had seen a customizer in the UK (YouTube) that used a bottle for a hair care product, maybe a hair mousse bottle? Had a kind of rounded look to the top, was an aluminum bottle and he spun with a drill press or something and took the paint off with sandpaper, which gave it a spun aluminum look. However, the aluminum was pretty thin, which is why I thought of the paintball bottle.

Scott in Brighton NY

Thank you, any and all encouragement is appreciated. I was thinking about the overflow earlier today when I drove past an army surplus store, I'll probably pop in there tomorrow and see if they have anything cool I can use. I like the CO2 bottle idea though, I'll have to look into what sizes they come in

#63

Oil cooler delete complete. That right side bolt was a HUGE pain the ass to tighten!

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Edited February 12, 2015 by Scottay951
#64

Also found good spots for the rear spark packs.
Ugh, pictures are rotated when I submit via mobile, I'll fix it tonight.

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Edited February 12, 2015 by Scottay951
#65

Reckon it's worth getting a VFRness in there while it's all stripped down? Looks to be shifting along nicely, I'm impressed!

Quick question. You mentioned getting a Hayabusa left exit exhaust. Has this been done before, how would it work?

#66

I'm not going to bother, I pulled the stator cover off and everything looks to be fine underneath. It's gone 62k miles as is so why mess with it? :) I did, I was going to take the headers to a muffler shop and have them cut the header and bend up a mid pipe for the left exit. But then I found that Staintune can on here and abandoned the 'Busa yoshi idea

#68

Got a call from the powdercoater this afternoon, my clutch cover and stator cover are ready for pick up. Can't wait to see how they look!

#69

:worthlesswithoutpics: :worthlesswithoutpics: :worthlesswithoutpics:

Stop teasing! Deliver!!!

#70
Dutchy

:worthlesswithoutpics: :worthlesswithoutpics: :worthlesswithoutpics:

Stop teasing! Deliver!!!

I have pic(s)!!! I have an exam tonight, so they'll be on the bike tomorrow morning!

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Edited February 18, 2015 by Scottay951
#71

This is looking really nice! I'm looking forward to pics of the tail completed. I've just finished my 600rr front end conversion and starting to think more about a tail swap. I hadnt considered the z1000 so very interested :lurk:

#72
SoCal97VFR

This is looking really nice! I'm looking forward to pics of the tail completed. I've just finished my 600rr front end conversion and starting to think more about a tail swap. I hadnt considered the z1000 so very interested :lurk:

I wasn't sure what I was going to do with the tail, luckily a friend had recently had his Z1000 written off by insurance so I was able to pick whatever parts I wanted from his bike (the entire subframe along with his Sargent seat.) It's not a direct swap by any means, I had to shave a few mm of aluminum off the Kawi subframe to make it fit the VFR frame mount. The lower subframe mount needs a 5 inch piece of steel to connect it to the lower VFR frame mount. It also has a bit of a gap between the tank and the seat, but that's a purely cosmetic issue so that's pretty far down on my to-do list.

#73

Powdercoated parts are in (and on...mostly).

My excitement was cut short though. I was definitely under the recommended 9 ftlbs of torque when one of the clutch cover bolts stripped and took out a chunk of the thread with it >:(

The good news is that it was the very beginning of the thread and there's an extra 15mm of thread depth left. Hopefully I won't need to get a tap and can just grab a longer bolt.

Anyways, enjoy the eye candy, I know I am!

Edit: Re-uploaded the pictures, they always get rotated for some reason when I post from my iPhone

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Edited February 27, 2015 by Scottay951
#74

If you had trouble with it, you should have run a tap in to clean up the threads.

You don't need to torque those bolts down, either. Snug + 1/4 turn in a criss cross pattern will do it nicely.

#75

Yeah, I was just excited to use my new torque wrench -_-

#76

School's been kicking my ass this semester, and progress on the bike has come to a stand still. After next week finals will be over and I should be able to reinstall the wiring harness, fill her up with oil and coolant, and see if she'll turn over!

#77

Haven't checked in on your build for a while - lots of great progress!

Regarding your seat gap, you don't seem to have any real options as far as re-working the forward subframe mount to bring the whole lot forward - this is what they look like on the inside, bottom right corner is your upper mount point.

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So it does look like seat modding is your only option. I'd sell the Sargeant seat and get a standard seat, mod the pan as suggested earlier and have it re-padded and upholstered - if the right guy does it you'll end up with a seat as good as the Sargeant.

Looks like you figured out how to get the centrestand off :fing02:

#78

I stared at the subframe for quite some time trying to figure out a way to make it work and nothing seemed reasonable or within any of my hand tool's capabilities.

I hadn't thought to sell the sergeant seat, but that's definitely an option. The friend who gave me the Z1000 bits said the stock seat is absolute garbage for anything more than 50 miles worth of riding, hence me reluctance to sell it. But regardless, the seat gap issue is fairly low on my priority list. I don't necessarily want an OEM+ bike like Andy ;)

And yes I did! That thing was HEAVY! I wonder how much weight I've taken off the bike so far? No pair system, no fairings, no front fairing stay, smaller headlight, staintune exhaust, surely the z1000 tail is lighter than the vfr tail. The 929 front end probably isn't any lighter but it'll more than make up for that in increased front end feel.

#79

If you get the right guy to rebuild the seat, it will be great - they use better foam (closed cell foam) and know how to shape and form it to make it work - just like the guys who make Corbin or Sargeant seats know.

As far as weight, hard to say - I wonder that about mine too. I really need to get a decent digital scale and work that stuff out. A really significant weight difference comes when you ditch the heavy pressed metal exhaust headers and fit a tubular full header system... but the wallet weight loss is potentially more significant than the bike weight loss with that one.

Back to the subframe - any chance of moving the top mount 3" further forward and fabbing something up that goes from it back to the mainframe mounting point? Dual flat spars, for example? Post some pics showing how it currently mounts, a problem shared is a problem halved.

#80

True, there's a place 20 minutes away from my house that apparently works wonders on all sorts of automotive upholstery so I'll have to go check him out sometime and see what he could do for me.

Haha yeah, I'd be all for that if money was no object :491:

I already have to make struts for the lower mounts, so for ease of construction's sake I'm just using the pre-existing top mounts. I'll post pictures this weekend when I can come up for air between tests!

#81

Question for those who have done naked conversions, where did you stash your front cylinders' spark packs?

#82

Take a look through the pics in my thread. I attached mine to the front of the intake plenum. I ran a dedicated ground wire back to the frame to make sure I had a good ground.

#84

Is it more difficult to do The COP on a 4th gen. then a 5th? I found it to be one of the easiest and affordable mods needed to clean up the bike as a naked.

#85
vfrAustin

Is it more difficult to do The COP on a 4th gen. then a 5th? I found it to be one of the easiest and affordable mods needed to clean up the bike as a naked.

I'm not sure, I'm not too savvy on modifying the electronics unless I have to. The coils will be hidden beneath the gas tank, so that's good enough for me.

#86
Scottay951
vfrAustin

Is it more difficult to do The COP on a 4th gen. then a 5th? I found it to be one of the easiest and affordable mods needed to clean up the bike as a naked.

I'm not sure, I'm not too savvy on modifying the electronics unless I have to. The coils will be hidden beneath the gas tank, so that's good enough for me.

Out of sight, out of mind.

#87
vfrAustin
Scottay951
vfrAustin

Is it more difficult to do The COP on a 4th gen. then a 5th? I found it to be one of the easiest and affordable mods needed to clean up the bike as a naked.

I'm not sure, I'm not too savvy on modifying the electronics unless I have to. The coils will be hidden beneath the gas tank, so that's good enough for me.

Out of sight, out of mind.

Took the words right out of my mouth

#89

Latest pics.

Brake and clutch lines bled, headlight installed

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#90

YAAAASSS. I like the color on the 3rd gen wheel.

#92

So, a mint 5th gen has popped up for sale and I'm heavily considering parting this project out. It's got all kinds of goodies on it, would anyone be interested in any parts from this project?

Professionally rebuilt Ohlins shock, sprung for 220lbs

rebuilt cbr 929 front end, 0.9kg/mm springs

powdercoated cbr 929 front wheel with brand new Metzeler

powdercoated 3rd gen rear wheel with brand new Metzeler

599 headlight assembly

superhawk clutch master cylinder with SS line

cbr 929 master cylinder with SS lines

sebspeed clutch cover (pressure plate same color as wheels with red outer ring)

There's tons of parts, let me know if you're interested in anything in particular

#93
Scottay951, 4/28/2016 at 1:44 PM

So, a mint 5th gen has popped up for sale and I'm heavily considering parting this project out. It's got all kinds of goodies on it, would anyone be interested in any parts from this project?

Professionally rebuilt Ohlins shock, sprung for 220lbs

rebuilt cbr 929 front end, 0.9kg/mm springs

powdercoated cbr 929 front wheel with brand new Metzeler

powdercoated 3rd gen rear wheel with brand new Metzeler

599 headlight assembly

superhawk clutch master cylinder with SS line

cbr 929 master cylinder with SS lines

sebspeed clutch cover (pressure plate same color as wheels with red outer ring)

There's tons of parts, let me know if you're interested in anything in particular

I am interested in some parts. I will send you a PM.

#94

If you happen to come across this thread, know that I have a ton of parts left. The only things I've gotten sold off are the shock and exhaust as of 9/24/2016

#95

Message sent! (: 

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