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Carrozzeria Alu Wheel Set: Vfr800

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#2 Guest 767fixer

they sure are sweet though.

#3 SEBSPEED

Ahh, nice!!

The site says for double side s/a though? :wub:

I :goofy: the PVM "10Y" wheels... would have to convert to single nut though... [image: my792%20(4).JPG]

#4 hardt21
SEBSPEEDAhh, nice!!

The site says for double side s/a though? :wub:

I :goofy: the PVM "10Y" wheels... would have to convert to single nut though... [image: my792%20(4).JPG]

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Those wheels are amazing. Did you get that from the Kawi site? I have a similar picture stored on my computer.

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#5 SEBSPEED
hardt21Those wheels are amazing. Did you get that from the Kawi site? I have a similar picture stored on my computer.

Nope, I snatched that pic right from the source, www.borderlinecustomcycle.com. look under the "projects" link. It's a 1992 ZX7 with MV Agusta body, R1 tail, Duc swingarm, ohlins, aluminum tank, and nitrous... :joystick: :thumbsup:

#6 VFR4Lee

Nice. As soon as I cash that big lottery ticket. :wub:

#7 The Phantom

Newly Designed Wheel for Honda VFR800 F4i in 3.5/5.5 x17

They've been reading VFRD!!!

That black bike is spectacular - can't pick the frame. but it has MV Agusta fairings with R1 tail on custom subframe...

Edit: a few posts in since I was writing mine... ZX-7R eh? Always liked them, and I'd love to build one up like that thing! Big bucks though.

#8 jeremy556
SEBSPEEDThe site says for double side s/a though? :wub:

I think their site is wrong. It is listed for a double swing arm, lists as fitting F4i also, and shows a wheel that uses bearings and has the sprocket mounted to it.

#9 Veefer800Canuck Thread starter
jeremy556
SEBSPEEDThe site says for double side s/a though? :wub:

I think their site is wrong. It is listed for a double swing arm, lists as fitting F4i also, and shows a wheel that uses bearings and has the sprocket mounted to it.

On their own website, they show SSSA wheels, but they appear to be single nut designs with 4 drive pins.

Might have to do a spindle conversion....

http://www.forged-wheel.com/vstarsingle.htm

#10 Synaptic Misfire

It says in the application chart for the Vstar forged wheels VFR800 (06) see below. C'mon let it be true baby needs new shoes!!!

HONDA

MODEL SIZE FRONT/REAR INCHES PART NUMBER

600 F4I 3.50/5.50-17 HON6FVS-

CBR600RR 3.50/5.50-17 HON6RVS-

CBR1000RR 3.50/6.00-17 HON10RVS-

CBR1000RR (wide) 3.50/6.25-17 HON12RVS-

VTR1000 SP/RC51 3.50/6.00-17 HONRC0VS-

VTR1000 SP/RC51 (wide) 3.50/6.25-17 HONRC2VS-

CBR929/954 RR R 3.50/6.00-17 HON950VS-

CBR929/954 RR (wide) 3.50/6.25-17 HON952VS-

VFR800 (06) 3.50/6.00-17 HONV8VS-

VTX1800 3.50/6.00-18 HONV0VS-

VTX1800 (wide) 3.50/8.50-18 HONV8VS-

XR650 SUPERMOTARD WORKS KIT* 3.50/4.75-17 HONXR6WK-

CRF450 SUPERMOTARD WORKS KIT* 3.50/4.75-17 HONCR4WK-

#12 SA2360
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hardt21Those wheels are amazing. Did you get that from the Kawi site? I have a similar picture stored on my computer.

Nope, I snatched that pic right from the source, www.borderlinecustomcycle.com. look under the "projects" link. It's a 1992 ZX7 with MV Agusta body, R1 tail, Duc swingarm, ohlins, aluminum tank, and nitrous... :joystick: :thumbsup:

Wonder what it sounds like? Look Ma'.....no cans!!!!!!!!!

#13 tooslow

I took my bike down as the proto type and will be picking my wheels up next week. Photos to follow.

Pat.

#14 tooslow

I think the additional cost is brought about by the fact the rear hub has an adapter to fit a Duc wheel with a single nut eliminating the four nuts of the VFR. I will post up a picture after I get back from Spring Mtn. race tract this weekend. I have run out of time and will miss out on using them at the track..

I have been working with Mr. Wakamatsu for about a year now trying to get this off the grount.

He first made a die for the Duck, and rather than go to that expense again he decided on the wheel adapter out of chrome molly.

#15 UFO

Oh god...my wife is going to kill me if these bolt right on to a VFR. :goofy:

#16 Veefer800Canuck Thread starter

Tooslow: that's awesome that you've gotten this rolling.

There may be some takers out there, especially the FrankenViffer crowd.

But not me, I like living in my house and sleeping in my own bed, right Neal?

#17 SAFE-T

Still cheaper than Marchesini's...

#18 SEBSPEED
tooslowI think the additional cost is brought about by the fact the rear hub has an adapter to fit a Duc wheel with a single nut eliminating the four nuts of the VFR. I will post up a picture after I get back from Spring Mtn. race tract this weekend. I have run out of time and will miss out on using them at the track..

I have been working with Mr. Wakamatsu for about a year now trying to get this off the grount.

He first made a die for the Duck, and rather than go to that expense again he decided on the wheel adapter out of chrome molly.

This is an amazingly good piece of news!! :thumbsup:

#20 toro1

Someday, hopefully, I'll get around to doing the single-nut hub mod, so I can slap on a rear mag wheel to match the Marchesini mag front I have on there now. It's incredible how much turn-in and steering effort are improved by slapping on a lighter hoop, so if I can remove even more rotating weight from the rear (combined with suspension mods), this bike will be an absolute dream to ride.

PS -- the linked picture was taken moments after I got the bike together, so please refrain from the usual poultry-related comments... :D

#22 UFO
mechdziner714Theres a very entertaining thread about them on the WERA board

WERA mag wheel thread

51 pages? Uhhh...no. :goofy:

#23 Brown81
toro1Someday, hopefully, I'll get around to doing the single-nut hub mod, so I can slap on a rear mag wheel to match the Marchesini mag front I have on there now. It's incredible how much turn-in and steering effort are improved by slapping on a lighter hoop, so if I can remove even more rotating weight from the rear (combined with suspension mods), this bike will be an absolute dream to ride.

PS -- the linked picture was taken moments after I got the bike together, so please refrain from the usual poultry-related comments... :D

Grrrrr, get back to work on that supercharger dammit!! :goofy:

:beer:

#24 Hobie1dog
UFO
mechdziner714Theres a very entertaining thread about them on the WERA board

WERA mag wheel thread

51 pages? Uhhh...no. :beer:

and 49 of the pages are off-topic BS. :goofy:

#26 Hobie1dog

[image: View Post]JZH, on Jun 30 2007, 06:55 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Hobie1dog, on Jun 29 2007, 01:09 PM, said:

This single nut conversion hub was on Ebay last week for 175.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...0398&rd=1,1

Funny, that looks just like an RC30 hb/axle... David Silver Spares sold me one for UKP60 + VAT not too long ago. ($160 @ Ron Ayers).

Ciao,


That's good to know, no wonder he didn't get any bids on it then. <_<
#27 FlaminV4
We need a drool emoticon... Drooool!!
#28 SAFE-T
What happened to the pics ? :unsure:
#29 Synaptic Misfire
Just checked back in on their site and the VFR has been removed from the application chart. It would seem they were unsuccessful in creating the wheels.
#30 SEBSPEED
zRoYz, Jan 5 2008, 10:35 PMHave I told you I hate you, but think you would need a lathe for that job (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Since I got out of that industry I used to be foremen/manager of a machine shop where we made all alloy parts & never once needed to make stuff for bikes as in those days you just did a custom spay job, polished a few things & that was about it, now every second day I want to make something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pissed.gif)

If I had the room I would own a lathe & bridgeport mill, but alas I can only fit the bikes & cars I own just so no chance in hell unless a fairy god mother buys me a bigger home.


What do I know, I'm just a programmer??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/goofy.gif) "Machine, cut me a circle!" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

J/K, I would have to see said adapter to make a call on that.

Don't be envious, it's not all peaches and cream. I've been trying to get a spacer set done for a few weeks now, but I can only use the lathe when it's not set up for a "real" job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I have managed to pull off a few real nice pieces in the time I've been at the job, just takes a bit of time and a few favors sometimes. Been there just over 7 years and recently got a promotion I've been wanting for about a year, which takes me(mostly) out of the manufacturing environment and into the engineering side of things. My new title is "Manufacturing Engineering Technician", and my priorities are to program a new $200,000 CNC brake press, (3) 2 axis and (2) 5 axis waterjets, and the 4 CNC mills. The nice part is, we are generally open on weekends, so I can still come out then to get my hands dirty. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fing02.gif)

A Bridgeport would be nice, and I know we have a few in storage... but I think I could make do with a Smithy(www.smithy.com). Most bike stuff would be small enough to get out of a benchtop model, and they now have industrial grade versions that are accurate enough for use in ISO certified facilities. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fing02.gif)

If you're desperate enough, you can always fall back to "the poor man's lathe". (chuck a workpiece up in a drill press, and have at it!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
#31 Veefer800Canuck Thread starter

[image: View Post]Synaptic Misfire, on Aug 16 2007, 04:27 PM, said:

Just checked back in on their site and the VFR has been removed from the application chart. It would seem they were unsuccessful in creating the wheels.


AHA, look here: http://www.forged-wheel.com/News.htm


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CARROZZERIA FORGED VFR800 WORKS KIT

HONDA VFR800 VTEC

CARROZZERIA VSTAR FORGED WHEELS

3.50/5.50-17 (Single Sided)

CZ CUSTOM AXLE ADAPTER

GALFER FRONT WAVE ROTORS (not pictured)

PRICE STARTING @$2450.00

LIMITED QUANTITY, WHILE SUPPLIES LAST

AVAILABLE IN POWDERCOATED OR ANODIZED FINISHES
#32 vfrrider
Just when I got all comfortable living indoors and married. :+1:

Larry
VFRrider
#33 zRoYz

[image: View Post]vfrrider, on Jan 6 2008, 12:13 AM, said:

Just when I got all comfortable living indoors and married. :+1:

Larry
VFRrider

haha I wonder if they will take the wife an a trade, they look (sorry can't think of words).
#34 SEBSPEED
It would be so sweet to get the specs on that axle adapter... I've got 4 brand spankin' new CNC mills to program... ^_^
#35 CitizenOfDreams

[image: View Post]mechdziner714, on Jun 29 2007, 11:52 AM, said:

For about the same price I might hold out for some magnesium wheels. This is a new company so no VFR version yet.
Mag wheels for less
Oh gawd... now this forum is going to get its own 300-page Durrani thread...
#38 Veefer Madness

[image: View Post]dutchinterceptor, on Jan 5 2008, 10:06 PM, said:

Even if I could scratch up that much dough, I'd have a hard time picking a color.

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That's the easy part.......

BOMBSHELL BLONDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :salesman: :salesman:
Is that the drugs or does that look like Christina Applegate???? AAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOO...... :wub:
Champagne tastes on a beer budget though...... :(
Don't worry, Larry. At that price, there's STILL gonna be a market for 8 Spokers. :thumbsup:
She/they/whatever sure look sweet. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
#39 zRoYz

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Jan 6 2008, 01:37 AM, said:

It would be so sweet to get the specs on that axle adapter... I've got 4 brand spankin' new CNC mills to program... ^_^

Have I told you I hate you, but think you would need a lathe for that job <_<

Since I got out of that industry I used to be foremen/manager of a machine shop where we made all alloy parts & never once needed to make stuff for bikes as in those days you just did a custom spay job, polished a few things & that was about it, now every second day I want to make something :pissed:

If I had the room I would own a lathe & bridgeport mill, but alas I can only fit the bikes & cars I own just so no chance in hell unless a fairy god mother buys me a bigger home.
#40 KanadianKen
drugs Veefer, that ain't Christina Applegate.....
#41 Synaptic Misfire
Anyone know how to contact the black market kidney dealers?
#42 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Jan 6 2008, 01:37 AM, said:

It would be so sweet to get the specs on that axle adapter... I've got 4 brand spankin' new CNC mills to program... ^_^


Probably won't help. It's likely the design of the wheel that allows it to clear the rear brake caliper, so you would still have to use a Carrozzeria wheel designed specifically for the VFR800 unless they are using one of their wheels designed for a Ducati.

The only other rear wheel that will clear the VFR800's OEM rear caliper/rotor is Dymag's Sport Magnesium. And you still need a modified axle (no longer available through Dymag) or axle adapter or whatnot.

Alternately, you could buy a set from Carrozzeria and try returning them after you had programmed the whole thing into autoCAD...just be prepared to make the wheels too, though.
#43 Veefer800Canuck Thread starter
Perhaps someone could email them and see if they are willing to sell the adaptor separately???
#44 vanion2
You guys are killing me...With that much money in wheels I would have to stand over my bike with a shotgun. :rolleyes:

Super sexy though. :wheel:
#45 SEBSPEED

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on Jan 6 2008, 06:12 PM, said:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Jan 6 2008, 01:37 AM, said:

It would be so sweet to get the specs on that axle adapter... I've got 4 brand spankin' new CNC mills to program... ^_^


Probably won't help. It's likely the design of the wheel that allows it to clear the rear brake caliper, so you would still have to use a Carrozzeria wheel designed specifically for the VFR800 unless they are using one of their wheels designed for a Ducati.

The only other rear wheel that will clear the VFR800's OEM rear caliper/rotor is Dymag's Sport Magnesium. And you still need a modified axle (no longer available through Dymag) or axle adapter or whatnot.

Alternately, you could buy a set from Carrozzeria and try returning them after you had programmed the whole thing into autoCAD...just be prepared to make the wheels too, though.


It's already been stated(possibly in another thread), that this adapter was modeled after Triumph's setup, so one might be able to bolt up a Triumph rear. I wonder if the part # for the wheel cross-references with their Triumph wheel?

In any case, not having to pay their price for the adapter would get me that much farther ahead, eh?

I still have our discussion of the conversion saved, and while I would still like to keep the linked brakes, I would give them up to get the wheel I want. The 3 spoke rears are my least favorite, the PVM 10Y's are my #1, with the new Duc 1098 wheel a close second. Any CBR600F4 wheel with similar design can fill in the front.

I'd love to try and mill my own wheels! Trouble is getting that huge block of aluminum to start with! :goofy:

ps - I have a spare 5th gen axle I'm saving to try and make the conversion with at some point, just don't know when I'll get time for it.
#46 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Jan 7 2008, 01:59 AM, said:

It's already been stated(possibly in another thread), that this adapter was modeled after Triumph's setup, so one might be able to bolt up a Triumph rear. I wonder if the part # for the wheel cross-references with their Triumph wheel?

Have you ever looked at a Triumph final drive up close ? It is almost a carbon copy of the Honda's, except for brake linkage. I bet the whole thing would slide right into a '98+ VFR800 swingarm all nice like. Have to compare the two side-to-side or take some measurements but... :rolleyes:

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#47 SEBSPEED

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on Jan 6 2008, 09:57 PM, said:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Jan 7 2008, 01:59 AM, said:

It's already been stated(possibly in another thread), that this adapter was modeled after Triumph's setup, so one might be able to bolt up a Triumph rear. I wonder if the part # for the wheel cross-references with their Triumph wheel?

Have you ever looked at a Triumph final drive up close ? It is almost a carbon copy of the Honda's, except for brake linkage. I bet the whole thing would slide right into a '98+ VFR800 swingarm all nice like. Have to compare the two side-to-side or take some measurements but... :rolleyes:


I haven't but it sounds like you just had a revelation? :unsure:

:idea3: Let's get Skuuter to tear into his Speed Triple!! :goofy:
#48 chonsey
If my VFR was my only bike, I'd be all over these wheels :warranty:
#49 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Jan 7 2008, 03:01 AM, said:

I haven't but it sounds like you just had a revelation? :unsure:

Nah. Just remembered something else I noticed/thought of but never pursued.
#50 Throttlestop
They (Carrozeria) unfortunately do not have a great reputation amongst the sportbike community. Their initial output sportbike wheels had several problems, such as difficulty in mounting/demounting of tires, and as I've personally experienced, shoddy anodising on a set of gold Z1000 wheels (they ended up being returned to the retailer that sold it).

I do hope they've pulled their act together though. They should have, by now.

Read about it here:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.ph...els#post2569825

and here:

http://www.r1-forum....ad.php?t=214824

There are a couple of other threads that I came across, but these are what I can remember. Approach these wheels with extreme caution, IMO.
#51 Grayghost08
I have had these wheels on a ZRX1200 and they were fantastic! Awesome finish, customer service was good and tire mounting was easy, beeads popped on with 45 psi. The only issues: The valve stems they sent suck. I knew this and ordered Triumph 90 deg stems.
#52 cozye

[image: View Post]Throttlestop, on Jan 7 2008, 05:37 AM, said:

They (Carrozeria) unfortunately do not have a great reputation amongst the sportbike community. Their initial output sportbike wheels had several problems, such as difficulty in mounting/demounting of tires, and as I've personally experienced, shoddy anodising on a set of gold Z1000 wheels (they ended up being returned to the retailer that sold it).

I do hope they've pulled their act together though. They should have, by now.

Read about it here:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.ph...els#post2569825

and here:

http://www.r1-forum....ad.php?t=214824

There are a couple of other threads that I came across, but these are what I can remember. Approach these wheels with extreme caution, IMO.

There initial run of V6 model wheels had some issues. They also had some issues with the powdercoating company they were working with. All of these problems were resolved long ago, and the vstar wheels have had zero issues. I've sold a bunch of them and have not had any complaints. I've also not read or heard of anyone complaining online about carrozzeria with any of the current model wheels. The v6's were discontinued.
#53 nr0974

[image: View Post]cozye, on 01 May 2009 - 10:00 AM, said:

[image: View Post]Throttlestop, on Jan 7 2008, 05:37 AM, said:

They (Carrozeria) unfortunately do not have a great reputation amongst the sportbike community. Their initial output sportbike wheels had several problems, such as difficulty in mounting/demounting of tires, and as I've personally experienced, shoddy anodising on a set of gold Z1000 wheels (they ended up being returned to the retailer that sold it).

I do hope they've pulled their act together though. They should have, by now.

Read about it here:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.ph...els#post2569825

and here:

http://www.r1-forum....ad.php?t=214824

There are a couple of other threads that I came across, but these are what I can remember. Approach these wheels with extreme caution, IMO.

There initial run of V6 model wheels had some issues. They also had some issues with the powdercoating company they were working with. All of these problems were resolved long ago, and the vstar wheels have had zero issues. I've sold a bunch of them and have not had any complaints. I've also not read or heard of anyone complaining online about carrozzeria with any of the current model wheels. The v6's were discontinued.



Does anyone know the cost on these wheels now? And does anyone actually have these on their VFR? I would like to buy a set but iI would like someone's feedback on these wheels. I think I found a site that has them for 1689 but not sure if thats for both.
#54 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 05 January 2008 - 08:37 PM, said:

It would be so sweet to get the specs on that axle adapter... I've got 4 brand spankin' new CNC mills to program... ^_^


C'mon Sebastian. Just find a damaged 6.0" Ducati wheel and measure the offset. Buy a Ducati spindle off eBay for the measurements there, and combine the two to make the spindle adapter. I estimate the offset spacing on Carrozeirra's adapter to clear the VFR's rear caliper and centre the wider Ducati wheel to be about 6.35 mm. Turn one out of something cheap like plastic or wood to test fit and you're off :fing02:
#55 The Phantom
Gee, here we go again... cue Viffer owners checking bank balances, selling kids...

Rick, haven't seen Murphy for a (long) while - post up a recent pic!
#56 YoshiHNS

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 16 January 2011 - 12:00 AM, said:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 05 January 2008 - 08:37 PM, said:

It would be so sweet to get the specs on that axle adapter... I've got 4 brand spankin' new CNC mills to program... ^_^


C'mon Sebastian. Just find a damaged 6.0 Ducati wheel and measure the offset. Buy a Ducati spindle off eBay for the measurements there, and combine the two to make the spindle adapter. I estimate the offset spacing on Carrozeirra's adapter to clear the VFR's rear caliper and centre the wider Ducati wheel to be about 6.35 mm. Turn one out of something cheap like plastic or wood to test fit and you're off :fing02:


It's sort of been done already. Matt did it on one of his 4th gens using triumph guts and a monster wheel.
#57 didit
I looked into these 2 years ago. Expensive and custom work due to rear drive yes, but not available for 6th Gen models with ABS. That ended that.
From other comments during my research, they did reduce the overall weight up front, but the rear came out almost the same with the weight of the custom SSS assembly.
Handling did improve due to reduction in spinning mass, but in the end he didn't think it worth the $2500 USD cost for results other than, MAN THEY LOOK GOOO!
#58 Dmitry
Couple things to consider:

A fella on Hawk GTForum has a set of Corazzerais mounted on his Hawk using modified stock spindle , I know that Hawk spindle is direct swap for VFR since most Hawkers use Vifer wheels and spindles on their bikes. Also he paid closer to $1000 than $2K, can't remember exact figure but I can ask

Also same fella making me a spacer to fit a Ducati complete eccentric, brakes and wheel on to Hawk swingarm, it's a simple sleeve with small offset, he provided drawings but I opted to have him make it for a reasonable fee. Should work on VFR since the swingarms have same offset and eccentrics have same diameter.

I'd post some links but the Hawk Forum is down for maintenance
#59 YoshiHNS
So the Ducati monster/848/1098/1198 eccentric will fit in the VFR swingarm? I didn't think it would work at all.
#60 Dmitry

[image: View Post]YoshiHNS, on 16 January 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

So the Ducati monster/848/1098/1198 eccentric will fit in the VFR swingarm? I didn't think it would work at all.


I'm using 748/916/996 eccentric with custom made sleeve, once I have it in my hands will post up some pics, but basically it's a simple sleeve that allows smaller Duc eccentric to fit in larger opening of Honda swinger, it also provides proper offset.
#61 SEBSPEED

[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 16 January 2011 - 04:34 PM, said:

[image: View Post]YoshiHNS, on 16 January 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

So the Ducati monster/848/1098/1198 eccentric will fit in the VFR swingarm? I didn't think it would work at all.


I'm using 748/916/996 eccentric with custom made sleeve, once I have it in my hands will post up some pics, but basically it's a simple sleeve that allows smaller Duc eccentric to fit in larger opening of Honda swinger, it also provides proper offset.


What year VFR swingarm are you putting that in?
#62 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 16 January 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 16 January 2011 - 04:34 PM, said:



I'm using 748/916/996 eccentric with custom made sleeve, once I have it in my hands will post up some pics, but basically it's a simple sleeve that allows smaller Duc eccentric to fit in larger opening of Honda swinger, it also provides proper offset.


What year VFR swingarm are you putting that in?


Ding Ding Ding :cheerleader: We have a winner !

So many people confuse what people have done with (mostly) 4th gen VFR750's with what's possible on the 5th and 6th gen VFR800. You can sleeve a Ducati eccentric for the 800 as well, but you are still going to have to deal with the 3-piston rear caliper.

Looks like I will be doing a spindle for another board member with a 5th gen this spring. They are going to fab their own brake caliper stay for use with a Ducati caliper, so those of you not afraid to delink your brakes may soon have a reasonable method of putting aftermarket wheels on your VFR800.
#63 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]didit, on 16 January 2011 - 02:44 PM, said:

I looked into these 2 years ago. Expensive and custom work due to rear drive yes, but not available for 6th Gen models with ABS. That ended that.

The Carrozeirra 'kit' would allow you to retain your ABS brakes as the spindle adapter offsets the wheel enough to clear the VFR800's 3-piston rear brake caliper, which is why they use a 6.0" wide wheel instead of a 5.5"

Still a lot of dough :lobby:
#64 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 16 January 2011 - 03:04 PM, said:

I know that Hawk spindle is direct swap for VFR since most Hawkers use VFR wheels and spindles on their bikes.

Really ? The VFR wheel is a common mod for the Hawk GT, but it is typically done by modifying the Hawk spindle to accomodate the VFR wheel:

Look for vfr wheel faq HERE
#65 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 06 January 2008 - 06:27 PM, said:

Perhaps someone could email them and see if they are willing to sell the adaptor separately???


At one point, Carrozeirra would sell you an adapter for $800. But I think they figured out pretty fast that would have allowed someone to copy it PDQ.

Not that you couldn't make a copy if you bought the whole kit, but the kit price is a bigger deterrent for someone that might otherwise have access to a programmable CNC machine.

Not that you couldn't just figure it out by looking at the pictures and taking some of your own measurements, mind you :cool:
#66 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]YoshiHNS, on 16 January 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

So the Ducati monster/848/1098/1198 eccentric will fit in the VFR swingarm? I didn't think it would work at all.


Well, the 848 eccentric is different from the 1098/1198 ecentric, or at least the spindle is because you can use 848 wheels on the older 748/916/995/998 bikes, but not 1098/1198 wheels.

There have been two other (supposed) people to my knowledge that have put either an RC30 or Ducati eccentric in their VFR. Have never seen actual pictures of a finished product anywhere. Two of the others out there (Swiffer, DouglasTheCook) on this site I had made here in Edmonton. BusyLittleShop did at least one conversion on a blue (and vomit-colored) VFR750 (not sure how else to describe the paint scheme...) that is now owned by a vfrD member. And MrMatt worked with SA1713 on the Triumph eccentric conversion for the 4th gen after I spent some time discussing it with him. At the time we were looking at fitting it to the 5th gen, but it would have required a cylindrical spacer and there may have been some other issues that I can't recall but it was quite do-able for the 4th gen (and most likely the 3rd gen since it's final drive doesn't differ that much from the 4th's design, if at all).

VFROEM also put an NC30 final drive in his VFR750 which was fairly well documented on this site, but everything else is vaporware without pics.
#67 SEBSPEED

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 16 January 2011 - 05:38 PM, said:

Looks like I will be doing a spindle for another board member with a 5th gen this spring. They are going to fab their own brake caliper stay for use with a Ducati caliper, so those of you not afraid to delink your brakes may soon have a reasonable method of putting aftermarket wheels on your VFR800.


Please keep me in the loop on this one, via PM if necessary.

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 16 January 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

The Carrozeirra 'kit' would allow you to retain your ABS brakes as the spindle adapter offsets the wheel enough to clear the VFR800's 3-piston rear brake caliper, which is why they use a 6.0" wide wheel instead of a 5.5"

Still a lot of dough :lobby:


Clearing the caliper is only half the problem in the case of the ABS model; there is a sensor ring mounted to the stock wheel which would not have been retained on the replacement wheel.
#68 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 16 January 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 16 January 2011 - 05:38 PM, said:

Looks like I will be doing a spindle for another board member with a 5th gen this spring. They are going to fab their own brake caliper stay for use with a Ducati caliper, so those of you not afraid to delink your brakes may soon have a reasonable method of putting aftermarket wheels on your VFR800.


Please keep me in the loop on this one, via PM if necessary.

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 16 January 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

The Carrozeirra 'kit' would allow you to retain your ABS brakes as the spindle adapter offsets the wheel enough to clear the VFR800's 3-piston rear brake caliper, which is why they use a 6.0" wide wheel instead of a 5.5"

Still a lot of dough :lobby:


Clearing the caliper is only half the problem in the case of the ABS model; there is a sensor ring mounted to the stock wheel which would not have been retained on the replacement wheel.


Mounted to the stock rear disc....wheel has no effect whatsoever.

http://www.bikebandi...18431#sch612279

Part #7 RING, PULSER
#69 Dmitry
I'm not gonna say that ABS will work, in fact because of different caliper size I'd say it's not likely to work on ABS bikes, but here's a Duc eccentric in Hawk swingarm, complete with carrier for a Brembo caliper.

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As for VFR wheel mod there is more than one way of doing it, you can use Hawk spindle and modify it or just install VFR axle. Also hawk spindle could be modified to accept Ducati wheel, not likely to be done with VFR but I suppose you can pic up Hawk (or NC30) spindle and use it on earlier model VFR's

here's a Hawk Spindle mod for Duc wheel

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#70 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 16 January 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

I'm not gonna say that ABS will work, in fact because of different caliper size I'd say it's not likely to work on ABS bikes, but here's a Duc eccentric in Hawk swingarm, complete with carrier for a Brembo caliper.

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Pretty much how you would fit it into a 3rd or 4th gen swingarm with the brake stay mount on the top of the swingarm. You can see the cylindrical spacer between the Ducati eccentric and the VFR750 swingarm.

VFR800 has a different linkage which I found more complicated to deal with due to it's location on the inside of the swingarm.

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Modified a Ducati rear brake stay and the VFR torque rod

ABS sensor ring attaches to the rear disc on the VFR800 spindle, so once that's gone, so is your ABS.
#71 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]The Phantom, on 16 January 2011 - 10:07 AM, said:

Gee, here we go again... cue Viffer owners checking bank balances, selling kids...

Rick, haven't seen Murphy for a (long) while - post up a recent pic!


Camera shy, I guess :lurk:

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#72 Dmitry

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 16 January 2011 - 07:28 PM, said:

VFR800 has a different linkage which I found more complicated to deal with due to it's location on the inside of the swingarm.

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Modified a Ducati rear brake stay and the VFR torque rod

ABS sensor ring attaches to the rear disc on the VFR800 spindle, so once that's gone, so is your ABS.


Looking at the pics it seems like Duc brake carrier attached to swingarm in the same place as VFR800, there is a bolt the does through the slot on the carrier that allows it to slide back and forward as eccentric is rotated.

I can post a Duc SSA pics tomorrow, all my parts are at the shop.
#73 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 16 January 2011 - 08:35 PM, said:

Looking at the pics it seems like Duc brake carrier attached to swingarm in the same place as VFR800, there is a bolt that goes through the slot on the carrier that allows it to slide back and forward as eccentric is rotated.

Well, Yes and No.

The Ducati brake stay is meant to slide on a fixed pin that is part of the Ducati's swingarm casting. I thought it would put some torsional stress on the linkage, but if I could have found someone to cut me a proper brake stay based on the Ducati part it would have been easy to make the sliding slotted portion longer such that it would have fit right along where the VFR800's brake linkage bolts to the swingarm.

I would have had to make a few other changes to rotate the caliper to the bottom position of the wheel where it should be, as well as offset it to work with the VFR's rear disc, but if I knew someone who could have done that, putting a Ducati wheel on a VFR800 using a Ducati caliper would have been a snap.

As it was, I could have fabricated a short linkage like in your first pic, but didn't want to rotate the rear caliper ahead of the centerline of the rear wheel, so I stuck with the longer linkage and modified the OEM Ducati brake stay and a Ducati rear rotor to work with the VFR.

Maybe there was a better way to do it, but it's not like there was anyone around to ask so I did as much as I could figure out from the information I could gather, and just reasoned out the parts that were still blank.

The VFR750 spindles I have modified wind up looking like this:

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#74 Mrgrn

[image: View Post]SAFE-T, on 17 January 2011 - 12:11 AM, said:

[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 16 January 2011 - 08:35 PM, said:

Looking at the pics it seems like Duc brake carrier attached to swingarm in the same place as VFR800, there is a bolt that goes through the slot on the carrier that allows it to slide back and forward as eccentric is rotated.

Well, Yes and No.

The Ducati brake stay is meant to slide on a fixed pin that is part of the Ducati's swingarm casting. I thought it would put some torsional stress on the linkage, but if I could have found someone to cut me a proper brake stay based on the Ducati part it would have been easy to make the sliding slotted portion longer such that it would have fit right along where the VFR800's brake linkage bolts to the swingarm.

I would have had to make a few other changes to rotate the caliper to the bottom position of the wheel where it should be, as well as offset it to work with the VFR's rear disc, but if I knew someone who could have done that, putting a Ducati wheel on a VFR800 using a Ducati caliper would have been a snap.

As it was, I could have fabricated a short linkage like in your first pic, but didn't want to rotate the rear caliper ahead of the centerline of the rear wheel, so I stuck with the longer linkage and modified the OEM Ducati brake stay and a Ducati rear rotor to work with the VFR.

Maybe there was a better way to do it, but it's not like there was anyone around to ask so I did as much as I could figure out from the information I could gather, and just reasoned out the parts that were still blank.

The VFR750 spindles I have modified wind up looking like this:

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PICT3153.JPG

if i send you a vfr spindle and rc30 spindle can you make the VFR adapted to work with the RC30 wheel? i have extra drive pins?

I want to make my vfr spindle into a single nut and use a RC30 wheel and it LOOKS like the rc30 axle is too short to work in the vfr eccentric hub and i have no rc30 carrier at the moment
#75 SAFE-T

[image: View Post]Mrgrn, on 17 January 2011 - 12:17 AM, said:

if i send you a vfr spindle and rc30 spindle can you make the VFR adapted to work with the RC30 wheel? i have extra drive pins?

I want to make my vfr spindle into a single nut and use a RC30 wheel and it LOOKS like the rc30 axle is too short to work in the vfr eccentric hub and i have no rc30 carrier at the moment


You want to put an 18" rear wheel on your VFR ?

Ask Jamon over at http://www.blackrhubarb.com/ what the dealio is with Ducati and RC30 wheel interchangeability. The selection of OEM Ducati wheels is much better, unless you already have an RC30 wheel.

The RC30 did not have a cush drive, so yes it will probably be too short on the sprocket side to work with your VFR750 cush drive.
#76 nr0974
Still did not get an answer...lol. Where do I find these wheels?
#77 nr0974

Emailed Mark at Carrozzeria and according to him these where Limited Edition and only 10 sets were made, and there are no plans to make anymore. So either I need to buy someones old set, or set up a group buy but from what I read most ofyou guys arent willing to shell out the cash for them. So either way I dont get what I want.

Edited January 17, 2011 by nr0974
#78 mello dude
nr0974

Emailed Mark at Carrozzeria and according to him these where Limited Edition and only 10 sets were made, and there are no plans to make anymore. So either I need to buy someones old set, or set up a group buy but from what I read most ofyou guys arent willing to shell out the cash for them. So either way I dont get what I want.

I think the main "gotcha" on the Carrrozzeria wheels is that they are 6" width. A lot of us viffer nuts are conscience of handling and dont want to do anything that would affect it negatively which a 6'" wheel would. The best way to go as Safe-T has pointed out to go single nut and keep stockish handling is to look at Ducati wheels and brakes.

btw - cool thread! :fing02:

#79 kgsmotorcycles
SAFE-T
Mrgrnif i send you a vfr spindle and rc30 spindle can you make the VFR adapted to work with the RC30 wheel? i have extra drive pins?

I want to make my vfr spindle into a single nut and use a RC30 wheel and it LOOKS like the rc30 axle is too short to work in the vfr eccentric hub and i have no rc30 carrier at the moment

You want to put an 18" rear wheel on your VFR ?

Ask Jamon over at http://www.blackrhubarb.com/ what the dealio is with Ducati and RC30 wheel interchangeability. The selection of OEM Ducati wheels is much better, unless you already have an RC30 wheel.

The RC30 did not have a cush drive, so yes it will probably be too short on the sprocket side to work with your VFR750 cush drive.

RC30 spindle fits my 750 perfect altho here im also using rc30 hub. its actually 1 mm shorter than standard, which has no effect in situe. This mod was almost a straight swap..

No cush, direct drive is a much better responsive feel....The loss of rotating weight is very noticeable when under power! On the track the acceleration over other bikes puts most others to shame.... bring on the mods, you wont be disappointed...

I guess i could have left the brake unit on the top of swingarm, but went underneath because i could...Had a brake stay welded onto bottom of swing arm, so it works similar to the ducati brake stay...I have seen BLS make up something also similar in his HRC swing arm, but his is proper posh...

[image: post-5025-0-52115200-1295307122_thumb.jp][image: post-5025-0-65464300-1295307469_thumb.jp]

RC30 wheel 17 inch change using Dymag here, although Marvic and HRC also do similar mag wheels....here a 5.75 wide wheel... i think 6 gets a little too close for comfort to swing arm..

[image: post-5025-0-88883800-1295307726_thumb.jp]

Bring it on...After a good 10 years of VFR dreaming, 250,000 VFR miles, its now well sorted!...[image: post-5025-0-23066900-1295308445_thumb.jp]

Would love a new set of flash wheels,3.5" cbr929 front and 5.5 rc30 rear please, both 17"....but im skint as usual.....

#80 Mrgrn
B4D80Y
SAFE-T
Mrgrnif i send you a vfr spindle and rc30 spindle can you make the VFR adapted to work with the RC30 wheel? i have extra drive pins?

I want to make my vfr spindle into a single nut and use a RC30 wheel and it LOOKS like the rc30 axle is too short to work in the vfr eccentric hub and i have no rc30 carrier at the moment

You want to put an 18" rear wheel on your VFR ?

Ask Jamon over at http://www.blackrhubarb.com/ what the dealio is with Ducati and RC30 wheel interchangeability. The selection of OEM Ducati wheels is much better, unless you already have an RC30 wheel.

The RC30 did not have a cush drive, so yes it will probably be too short on the sprocket side to work with your VFR750 cush drive.

RC30 spindle fits my 750 perfect altho here im also using rc30 hub. its actually 1 mm shorter than standard, which has no effect in situe. This mod was almost a straight swap..

No cush, direct drive is a much better responsive feel....The loss of rotating weight is very noticeable when under power! On the track the acceleration over other bikes puts most others to shame.... bring on the mods, you wont be disappointed...

I guess i could have left the brake unit on the top of swingarm, but went underneath because i could...Had a brake stay welded onto bottom of swing arm, so it works similar to the ducati brake stay...I have seen BLS make up something also similar in his HRC swing arm, but his is proper posh...

[image: post-5025-0-52115200-1295307122_thumb.jp][image: post-5025-0-65464300-1295307469_thumb.jp]

RC30 wheel 17 inch change using Dymag here, although Marvic and HRC also do similar mag wheels....here a 5.75 wide wheel... i think 6 gets a little too close for comfort to swing arm..

[image: post-5025-0-88883800-1295307726_thumb.jp]

Bring it on...After a good 10 years of VFR dreaming, 250,000 VFR miles, its now well sorted!...[image: post-5025-0-23066900-1295308445_thumb.jp]

Would love a new set of flash wheels,3.5" cbr929 front and 5.5 rc30 rear please, both 17"....but im skint as usual.....

this is exactly what i want to do.

i have several 17 RC30 wheels and i am trying to simplify the VFR wheel swap considring i already have a lot of what is needed. I do NOT have a RC30 sprocket carrier or sprocoet nut and did not want to but any if i was unsure it would work on the 98 VFR arm. I have installed it and it looked short but you have cleared that up, thanks.

anybody happen to know where to buy a used RC30 sprocket carrier and or nut too?

#81 SAFE-T
Mrgrnanybody happen to know where to buy a used RC30 sprocket carrier and or nut too?

Try David Silver Spares in Great Britain.

#82 SAFE-T
B4D80YRC30 spindle fits my 750 perfect altho here im also using rc30 hub. its actually 1 mm shorter than standard, which has no effect in situe. This mod was almost a straight swap..

So, you are using the RC30 spindle and sprocket carrier in the RC30 eccentric in your VFR750 ? Neat. The VFR750 eccentric is smaller than the VFR800's (and the same size as the Triumph's ~ see MrMatt).

Rumor is the RC45 stuff fits in the VFR800 arm, but no one seems interested in ferreting out used RC45 parts to try it out around here yet.

#83 SAFE-T
MrgrnI have several 17 RC30 wheels...

Be interested in knowing which of these wheels, if any, actually clear the 3-piston rear caliper on the VFR800.

The smaller RC30 eccentric will need a cylindrical spacer in the VFR800 swingarm. Or are you thinking of using the RC spindle in the VFR800's eccentric ?

#84 kgsmotorcycles

yes the vfr750 eccentric parts are similar size to the rc30, then after the 750 was the 800, i believe the rc45 is the next best match to the 800 sizes...The measurements are all out there on the net. I thought i saved them on my lap top, but again they have become elusive. I have posted them on VFRD twice already so have a look if you get the time..

Not a lot of rc45 spares going around to my knowledge.....

Edited January 18, 2011 by B4D80Y
#85 SEBSPEED

Sorry for taking this even more off topic(and for not searching first...).

What's the deal with putting HawkGT/NT650 drive guts in a 4th gen arm? I've got a guy who wants to swap his Hawk single nut stuff for my VFR parts...

#86 SAFE-T
SEBSPEED

Sorry for taking this even more off topic(and for not searching first...).

What's the deal with putting HawkGT/NT650 drive guts in a 4th gen arm? I've got a guy who wants to swap his Hawk single nut stuff for my VFR parts...

I'd scour the HawkGT forums - I bet they are pretty close, though. But you can't use a Duc wheel on the Hawk spindle without relocating the drive pins. You might be able to use an NC35 rear wheel, but again I think the drive pin circle is different.

#87 Mrgrn
SAFE-T
MrgrnI have several 17 RC30 wheels...

Be interested in knowing which of these wheels, if any, actually clear the 3-piston rear caliper on the VFR800.

The smaller RC30 eccentric will need a cylindrical spacer in the VFR800 swingarm. Or are you thinking of using the RC spindle in the VFR800's eccentric ?

rc30 spindle in a 98 vfr 800 eccentric on a rc51 bike

#88 JZH

The RC30 sprocket carrier is the same as the NC30 and NC35, so used ones should be available on UK eBay (though they are usually attached to swing arms!) Have a look at vfroem's threads/gallery. He's got an RC30 spindle mounted in a VFR750 swing arm (and NC30 sprocket carrier) IIRC.

Ciao,

#89 SAFE-T
Mrgrnrc30 spindle in a 98 vfr 800 eccentric on a rc51 bike

Interesting that the bearing journals still match up, but I've heard the same thing about the VFR spindle in the Hawk eccentric and vice versa.

What are you going to use for a rear caliper / brake stay ?

#90 kgsmotorcycles

Found the measurements. In my bookmark section...

Taken from another website found to be very useful for reference, http://guukan.org/garage/swingarms.html

Once again posted on VFRD..

Honda VFR ('90-'2003+), Hawk, RC30/45, NSR250 all use the same relative rear wheel offset. i.e. mix and match wheels amongst the various models and so long as the spindle face is unmolested the wheels will remain centered.

90-93 VFR (shock linkage mount is two lobes on bottom of swingarm)(shock end is a 'fork')

Length: 565

Pivot width: 242 (+3.5 thrust collar)

Pivot diameter: 20

Eccentric outside diameter: 105

Eccentric width: 70 (+3 crenelated 'edge')

Caliper carrier diameter: 75

Caliper carrier width: 14

Brake rotor diameter: 255

Brake rotor mount diameter: 110

Sprocket mount diameter: 175

Wheel drive diameter: 100

94-97 VFR (shock linkage mount is one lobe on bottom of swingarm)(shock end is an 'eye')

Length: 560

Pivot width: 227 (+3.5 thrust collar)

Pivot diameter: 20

Eccentric outside diameter: 105

Eccentric width: 70 (+3 crenelated 'edge')

Caliper carrier diameter: 75

Caliper carrier width: 14

Brake rotor diameter: 255

Brake rotor mount diameter: 110

Sprocket mount diameter: 175

Wheel drive diameter: 100

Hawk (shock is direct-mounted to top of swingarm)(shock end is an 'eye')

Length: 545

Pivot width: 235

Pivot diameter (right): 15

Pivot diameter (left): <22

Eccentric outside diameter: 105

Eccentric width: 70 (+3 crenelated 'edge')

Caliper carrier diameter: 75

Caliper carrier width: 14

Brake rotor diameter: 240

Brake rotor mount diameter: 100

Sprocket mount diameter: 165

Wheel drive diameter: 100

RC30 (shock linkage mount is two lobes on bottom of swingarm)(shock end is a 'fork')

Length: 530

Pivot width: 235

Pivot diameter: 20

Eccentric outside diameter: 105

Eccentric width: 70 (+3 crenelated 'edge')

Caliper carrier diameter: 76

Caliper carrier width: 13

Brake rotor diameter: 220

Brake rotor mount diameter: 110

Sprocket mount diameter: 140

Wheel drive diameter: 85

RC45 (shock linkage mount is two lobes on bottom of swingarm)(shock end is a 'fork')

Length: 540

Pivot width: 250

Pivot diameter: 20

Eccentric outside diameter: 117

Eccentric width: 77 (+3 crenelated 'edge')

Caliper carrier diameter: 76

Caliper carrier width: 13

Brake rotor diameter: 220

Brake rotor mount diameter: 110

Sprocket mount diameter: 140

Wheel drive diameter: 85

RVF400 (shock linkage mount is two lobes on bottom of swingarm)(shock end is a 'fork')

Length: 540 (??)

Pivot width: 215

Pivot diameter: 20

Eccentric outside diameter: 105 (??)

Eccentric width: 60 (+3 crenelated 'edge')

Caliper carrier diameter: 76 (??)

Caliper carrier width: 15

Brake rotor diameter: 220

Brake rotor mount diameter: 110

Sprocket mount diameter: 140

Wheel drive diameter: 85

NSR250 / mc28

Wheel drive diameter: 85

MV Agusta F4 (shock linkage mount is bolt on, under swingarm. linkage arrangement is similar to Ducati 916)

Length: 545

Pivot width: 255

Pivot diameter: 20

Eccentric outside diameter: 105

Eccentric width: 76

Wheel drive diamter: 85

Missing from this list are the VFR800 specs.... would be nice to add them if anyone has the time to do so...

I have read elsewhere the 800 and 45 specs are similar, but cannot confirm 4 sure. :fing02:

#91 Jmmymc750
SAFE-T
SEBSPEED
Dmitry

Ding Ding Ding :cheerleader: We have a winner !

So many people confuse what people have done with (mostly) 4th gen VFR750's with what's possible on the 5th and 6th gen VFR800. You can sleeve a Ducati eccentric for the 800 as well, but you are still going to have to deal with the 3-piston rear caliper.

Looks like I will be doing a spindle for another board member with a 5th gen this spring. They are going to fab their own brake caliper stay for use with a Ducati caliper, so those of you not afraid to delink your brakes may soon have a reasonable method of putting aftermarket wheels on your VFR800

How many of these will you/can you make?

#92 SAFE-T
Jmmymc750Looks like I will be doing a spindle for another board member with a 5th gen this spring. They are going to fab their own brake caliper stay for use with a Ducati caliper, so those of you not afraid to delink your brakes may soon have a reasonable method of putting aftermarket wheels on your VFR800

How many of these will you/can you make?

I can make any number of them as long as people pay for them :fing02:

#94 jim v

would it be the same part for 6th gen? and the price? a lightweight, single nut rear would look outstanding. plus my company paid a record bonus this year and the $$ is burning a hole in my pocket.... :biggrin:

jim

SAFE-T
Jmmymc750Looks like I will be doing a spindle for another board member with a 5th gen this spring. They are going to fab their own brake caliper stay for use with a Ducati caliper, so those of you not afraid to delink your brakes may soon have a reasonable method of putting aftermarket wheels on your VFR800

How many of these will you/can you make?

I can make any number of them as long as people pay for them :fing02:

#95 SAFE-T
jim vwould it be the same part for 6th gen? and the price? a lightweight, single nut rear would look outstanding. plus my company paid a record bonus this year and the $$ is burning a hole in my pocket.... :biggrin:

jim

$350 plus 5% GST, plus shipping back and forth. You need to supply a set of RC54 drive pins and bolts as these need to be press-fit, along with an OEM 46mm Ducati three-peice wheel nut because I want to make sure everything fits.

Once you get it back, you will need to fabricate your own rear brake caliper stay using a brake caliper of your choosing, since we are still working on that. If I were you I would wait, unless you want to do your own experimentation. The VFR800's stock rear brake caliper and stay will not work.

I have one other member on the board who is interested and who I have agreed to do a spindle conversion for at cost ($350 plus 5% GST), for which I hope to gain some information myself. If it were a bolt-on conversion right now - including a substitute rear brake caliper and stay, RC45 drive pins and Ducati wheel nut - you would be looking at around $1000.

#97 Veefer800Canuck Thread starter

Nice Max! Those things are crazy cult bikes.

I know you've seen what the Germans and French do to those things!

#98 Scot
Veefer800Canuck

Nice Max! Those things are crazy cult bikes.

I know you've seen what the Germans and French do to those things!

Oh yeah. Most of my parts are from the UK and Germany.

#99 SAFE-T
ScotCarr's are great wheels. Too bad they bounced on making them for the VFR.

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They never made a set for the VFR. They just used an F4 front wheel and a wider 6.0" Ducati rear wheel coupled with an adapter to offset it to clear the VFR's rear caliper and still be centred on the swingarm.

#100 Dmitry
SAFE-T

They never made a set for the VFR. They just used an F4 front wheel and a wider 6.0" Ducati rear wheel coupled with an adapter to offset it to clear the VFR's rear caliper and still be centred on the swingarm.

I don't think the caliper clearance is an issue, only reason to space the wheel out is to keep it aligned with bikes center line.

Here's something to consider, NONE here mentioned or tried the HawkGT mounting method because NONE have probably ever removed the wheel from the Hawk. Well, here's food for thought, Hawk wheel is held in place by a bolt that passes through a center of the axle, than a nut holds the wheel in place via spacer. How difficult would it be to drill and spline the hole through the center of VFR axle and use a large bolt/spacer and nut to mount it HawkGT style?

as promised my Hawk/Ducati project pictures, got sidetracked with all the other bikes so I left it alone for now

in the back is a 748 lower triple modded with CBR900RR stem to fit the Hawk

left front is the sleeve insert, on the right is Duc eccentric with 5mm ring pressed on it for an offset

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on the bike

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I'm using Duc cush, the upside is that there are many lightweight aftermarket parts available for Ducati set up, downside is that Duc's have always used very small sprockets, 38 rear is stock, had heluva time locating a 43t rear, also have to use aftermarket cush for that, Ducati cush-drive consists of rubber insulators inserted on to a sprocket, dealer does not carry sprockets bigger than 39t (IIRC?) so I'm using the Fast By Ferracci carrier, got a sprocket from them as well, must have been for a stunt bike.

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